DCS: Mirage F1ce: Rockets, Bombs and Guns Ground Attack Tutorial 

I was thinking the same thing.

Loved that part! /)

Thanks! Great to hear, I felt it was a little dull otherwise! Always helps to visualise something to players.

RedKite you are not at all dull! Learned, calm, methodical yes, dull no. I’ve been watching your vids for years and love everyone.

I'd love for a full on cold war roster one day.

Thunderchief. Nuff said.

Yeah MFD with millions of sub-menu. Cold war aircraft are the best

when that f4 drops

@@carti9248 F-4, A-7, A-6, F-8, MiG-23, MiG-17, etc.

Much appreciated!

Same. Tons of Il-2, FB, AEP, PF and 46 experience as background, I'm so much better at that than with the tables, I don't even care about the latter like at all.

@@CakePrincessCelestia would be interesting to see how accurate you are vs somebody who is good at using the tables.

@@brettgrelle6700 tables are thrown out the window the moment you start getting shot at

Rudel, I like your hair..

Thanks kindly Rudelchw! It's been a fair old bit of work doing this series, i'm glad everyone's loving them.

You're sexual!

Steady on!

Analogue birds are always great challenges to fly! Great change of pace from digital.

Many thanks!

Lot of other DCS modules already have it implemented

They're already inaccurate if temperature is different than 15C. That is simulated.

The original script included a mention to this method, but Aerges said we should just keep to the book for the video :)

I like the old-school ground attack methods so I'll be having a lot of fun with the CE.

At least the later versions should provide a better gunsight from my understanding

These were SAMP-250's You can also drop BR-250 or 500s, Gbu-10s/12s and Mk82s. I wouldn't read too much into the F111 pod until ED start talking about these things.

@@RedKiteRender thanks. Good to hear that the F1 will have some laser guided bombs.

@@RedKiteRender I figured out the Pave Tac Pod. The Korean Air Force Uses the pod on their F4 phantoms. So I assume ED put it in for when the F4 comes out and for use in internal and beta testing of the F4 phantom. So, there you go, we figured it out.

Those aren't rockets or dumb bombs so I wouldn't rule that out.

Technically the M2000 can, it's just computationally limited to 3 or 2? weapon unique types if i recall correctly. As for the F1. Yes you could carry 2 heaters 1 SARH and some bombs or rockets if you fancy.

Watch and listen....

@@stefansaveda2449 yeah I know he said it doesn't have a ballistic computer, but that is different to radar ranging

@@teggy689 Q1: he is saying...no radar-ranging in the CE-version Q2: u can see that the buttons in the cockpit are in english

@@stefansaveda2449 he says it doesn't have a radio altimeter, hence the QFE settings. There is also french labels cleanly shown in the video alongside the English parts. Unsure if this is just abbreviations of french words or an actual English cockpit in progress.

You'll have to add altitude on and calculate a difference instead. I'd try and get a round number for the release altitude to make reading it easier.

@@RedKiteRender thank you

Only the CE at launch i believe, others to follow afterwards.

@@RedKiteRender Sweet, thank you for the information

Would be exactly the same as the bombs, you just need the correct release table for it.

@@RedKiteRender Sure, but how dependent are they on a correct QFR? Or do they release sub munitions after a set amount of time after release?

Only thing I found about them is they are called "Matra LRF1 rocket pod" or "Matra F1 36-tube rocket launcher" couldn't find photos of them, only renders for a Strike Fighters mod and a Mirage 2000 loadout schematic from a book, I guess they weren't as common as the 18 tube SNEB launcher.

I believe the 36 sneb rocket pods are what she'll release with.

I remember pictures of these pods in French service, but it would be hard to find nowadays.

currently there is no release date. it's in the final stages of development.

Just for info i had feedback specifically from SME (Real F1ce pilot, subject matter expert) and another qualified pilot moderate / vet this video prior, and this was the recommended method. By all means there are shortcut methods, but they wanted to go 'by the book' as it were for the video.

@@RedKiteRender let's admit that true for some air forces. I've had first hand experience with French F1CR and CT pilots and we always made it the simple way. One reason was because it was mainly not pre planned targets, therefore no way to have the local QNH beforehand. Other reason, target altitude was pretty high in general, and the 30ft/mb rule didn't apply that well. But I understand your concept, that's certainly a good one for preplanned targets.

Speaking specifically on the DCS front, QNH is global at the moment, pending atmospherics improvements, so it'll work better than real life! There's a few other methods for release altitude employed by dcs players too, particularity if you talk with the DCS Viggen crowd.

It's a Spanish cockpit! No word as to if we'll see a dedicated French or English cockpit at a later date from the devs, but you can bet the community will make one sooner or later.

@@RedKiteRender okok

Full module currently in development by DCS third party Aerges, you can find a link to their FB in the description.

Really hoping they'll improve the splash damage further so that you can actually destroy things without pinpoint accuracy. Dumb bombing often feels like a fool's errand these days when you need direct hits to actually cause damage. That said I have seen some signs of improvements, especially when it comes to taking out infantry from quite far away.

The funny thing is that Soviets fighters like MiG-21Bis has the automatic slant ranging for you, partially. Example in MiG-21Bis the radar is used to measure the slant range and give you the proper CCIP pipper for guns and rockets, but not for the bombs... The bombs are dropped still by using the release table. Why? Because the radar can't gimbal low enough or calculate a CCRP to be able release bombs properly. With the MiG-23 (1968-1970, the Mirage F1 CE that is first we get is from 1974 (the F1C is from 1973)) has the full deal as it even has the INS, that was added to F1 only on next variant after CE). There is as well interesting reason why Soviets put for ground attack planes the laser range finders, like Su-25A from 1975-1979, and Su-17/Su-22 from 1970, MiG-27 1975 etc. Having a laser range finder and designator made possible to get very accurate slant range measurement and so on weapon delivery with INS. Having a re-attack capability by navigation computer remembering the attack/measurement point and guide pilot back to it for re-attack. But when in planes like MiG-27 and Su-24 you got the TV targeting added, it made possible engage targets from further distance than visually spotting target and area. So laser guided missiles became even more capable as it was now over 3-5 km ranges to release weapons. This is as well achilles heel in DCS, that AGM-65 Maverick is way too long range weapon, where it should be more closely used from 2-3 km ranges instead current 10-15 km as the TV/IR seeker is not capable to lock on tank size target further than about 1.5-3 km range and to large bridge size target from about 5-7 km. Why the laser guided maverick is the most used as you can really get that 5-10 km lock-on capability if JTAC is very close to the target and weather is proper etc. And that is why Soviets favored missiles with RF guidance like Shturm / Ataka in helicopters, but same time as well the Vikhr is superior is you get really that excellent 8-12 km performance from it when combining to 7/24x Shkval depending your release speed and altitude. At the moment most of these cold war era weapons are too capable in DCS, and should have much shorter ranges to be used. Why JDAM is preferred as you really can stay far away from target as GBU-12 should require to overfly the target and get bomb seeing the laser spot, that JTAC needs to have properly painting. As currently the laser spot is unrealistically visible to every direction (omnidirectional) regardless the seeker angle to it. As best angle is between 30 and 60 degrees from the designator.

I can't say for certain, but I'm betting the more modern variants of the F1 will have CCIP. (If anyone more knowledgable on F1 variants can answer that?)