DCS P47 Thunderbolt 1v1 Dogfight Practice 

This kind of commentary while flying is exactly what I've been looking for in WW2 dogfighting. It's really good to finally be able to put a name to these maneuvers and get a glimpse of the tactical thinking behind them.

Very interesting, especially as you explain your considerations as you're going along. One thing struck me a peculiar: as far as I know, the K4 has a much better turn rate than the P-47 at low altitude, yet the AI kept on insisting on the B&Z approach in the last fight. I would suspect that the K4 would have been much more dangerous had he focussed more on a two circle fight. Nevertheless, very well done and thanks for putting it on YT 👍

I'm very interested on the P47 since it was used by my country (Brazil) in Italy during WWII, mostly as an attacker. Such a cool plane.

Absolutely love your tutorials and action. I've learnt so much from them Phil. Happy new year mate.

Bit workmanlike, PS, but that's what I love - your steady, efficient competence. Thanks for continuing to produce these videos. And yeah, raw commentary was the right choice!

Hearing you work through it, particularly with recovering from mistakes is insanely helpful. More so than some of the much bigger channels.

Excellent video! Exactly what I was wanting to see! Cant wait to see how much of your tactics can be applied to a human opponent!!!

Lovely vid! Thanks for making it! Was very interesting to see this big bird perform at different altitudes etc. Very cool! :)

Great video, Phil. Hearing you talk out what you're doing is super helpful. If I may, I'd lie to suggest that the next one of these you also display the stick/rudder/throttle position so that we can visually see your movements. It would be a big help, especially when you're talking about rudder issues or how light you are being on the controls.

I love doing the instant action dogfights as practice, and quick fun. Getting in close is the tactic Eric Harmann used. He had to bail out a few times because his 109 got hit by debris from aircraft he was shooting at.

That was really enjoyable with the commentary.

Very nice. I watched this after I was on Storm of War in the 109. I scored 1 pony, but the adrenaline rush made me land and watch some instructional vids and chill.

Thank you Phil. That was VERY educational. It helped that I'm doing a good portion of my learning in the -30

Nice, not many P-47 dogfight videos out there from what I can find.

Comments, as others mention, are extremely helpful. I'm hoping to learn this aircraft and your commentary will help I think.

Very instructive. Like the way you do this. Fond of the Jug since my dad served in the 353rd Fighter Group (not a pilot) which used them while he was there.

We'll done, good video. This was exactly what I was looking for.

Just got the Jug and have had a hard time getting a feel for it since it's my first warbird; this is quite helpful

Great live commentary Phil!

Just getting used to the P47, well not at all yet to be honest... :) It's a tough bird to fly when you are used to a spitfire like I am. I keep doing what I did in a spitfire and shooting myself in the foot. Your video has been very educational, thanks. You're rocking it, but still, it is also confirmation for me that it's actually a tough plane. Which helps me persevere!

I am a WWII history buff and when the new Normandy map came out I was hooked. I just downloaded it along with the WWII asset pack and my choice of first warbird to master is the P47 Jug. I was debating hard between it and the Mustang, also the Spitfire and Mosquito. But from what I have seen and read, the Jug is the best general purpose bird and the best starting platform to enter the warbird arena. So now I am devouring all the Jug content I can get to improve. Glad I found this channel. Liked and subbed.

anecdotal note on my end from flying the 51 vs AI. I concur that Veteran AI don't ufo and are typically easy to kill or make odd mistakes (such as in the final fight it insisting the bnz fight was proper vs '47 over a 2 circle fight) Switch the AI to 'Ace' and the story radically changes. I prefer the ufo ace AI, they can be overcome but with difficulty. They are amidst changes and my experience in recent years been seen to fly full throttle with rads popped, with engine damaged, climb in excess of 30 minutes at full power (f2 info bar used). In recent times i.e. after damage model update they seem to be able to cheat less but I believe it is still present in a few forms. Cheers and thanks for the 47 show, glad to see you won't change your ways of the spitfire getting so close with guns. If you train that sight really does work. And so do the 50's at convergence around 1000ft.

Very entertaining and informative. 👍👍

very good learning tool with your commentary

Excellent video!

Just started getting into WB flying, and finding dogfighting difficult to understand all the dynamics. It’s kind of overwhelming for a beginner thats where this video and your excellent description helps. Thanks for this video, big help. I would love to see a tack view of these dogfights with your description, that would show flight in a 3d environment.

Great video Phil. Few "good" pilots are able to articulate what they are doing as they do it. That type of pilot needs to know his aircraft (which requires practice) AND be able to think ahead; combining those skills allows him to get inside the enemy's OODA loop. Thank you for a great example!

I've always felt the P-47 doesn't get the praise it deserves. Always in the shadow of the P-51. And yet it was the P-47 that was taking the fight to the luftwaffe in 1942/43 when the luftwaffe was still an effective fighting force. The only thing that hampered it was its poor range. That big Pratt and Whitney R2800 double wasp was a thirsty beast. And even with drop tanks could only get to the German border. But with the use of proper tactics. Thunderbolt pilots were able to inflict unsustainable losses on thevLuftwaffe. killing off German pilots faster then they could be trained. These loss rates caused the German's to concentrate their fighter defenses round Germany itself. Freeing up air space over much of Europe. Allowing the Allies to achieve total air supremacy over France. Giving them a decisive advantage when Operation Overlord was launched on June 6th 1944. By the time the P-51C/D models became available in sufficient numbers. The Luftwaffe was a shadow of its former self. With many of its pilots poorly trained and inexperienced. While yes it was the P-51 that finished off the Luftwaffe downing an astonishing 4950 aircraft. It was the Thunderbolt that wounded and crippled the German fighter groups when they were at their strongest in the first place.

Very useful video and comments. I’d love to see more technical insight into the different planes like this. I have been training with the AI as well, particularly turning off LABELS, as I learned that I was relying on the label moving underneath or behind the plane and frames, so I was deadly precise in my turns. If you take away the labels, there is a whole new layer of maneuvering complexity that I was completely lacking. My improvements show on the PvP arena.

Good. I was looking for this kind of video. Re-learning how too fly this beast. And now with the new ammo, it is easier to get some shots and really damage the opponent.

Awesome video. Great to hear your thoughts throughout the fight. Have you made any similar videos in the P-51 ? Looking forward to some multiplayer videos, if that happens :D

Thanks for the video, Think I may just get the P-47 and do some practicing.

The biggest thing I noticed was your patience (most of the time :).

Good presentation.

Best commentary.. very good..

Damn it, you're making me want to buy the P-47 :p

Superb Documentary for the DCS P-47. I just tried the dogfight before this video and I knew my mistakes- I was simply used to lightweight fighter designs. Thank You Kindly- Subb'ed

Brilliant to have you back! Would you recommend twining against the AI now the have improved their logic? Would it work the way around too, for those who fly German?

That's no mean feat - four fights for 4 kills confirmed. The P 47 is indeed a beast, but you show handled "with care" it can win the fight. Looking forward to the Mosquito. I wonder how it handled the 109 and 190? I guess we'll see. Did they stop to fight, or just use her speed to get the hell out? She was more a bomber than fighter, I think.

very nice

Thanks for th video. Was your constant use of flaps in turns a thing in the real Jug? Doesn't it hamper speed too much? I've always staed away from too much flaps usage, probably a huge mistake on my part

Have to agree on the AI behavior, I've flown a lot of fights vs AI and they seem way better now compared to a few years ago.

Hello. I just started dcs. I have a questions. I only have dora. I can't find a server that is only ww2. Where can I see how open the radiator flaps are in Dora Does it have an indicator in the cockpit? I've been playing il2 for a year and a half. Dcs is a better quality game. But ww2 player count is disappointing. I'm waiting for your suggestions to enjoy

There was a real one at MOTAT Auckland where did it go?

Smooooth! Are you using curves or turned down your saturation (IE: spitty)? I’ve also been playing around with the jug, and she’s surprisingly twitchy. I’m still on the first fight, so if you covered this I apologize.

Are you locking boost to throttle at low altitude, I’m curious about how this is modeled in DCS.

good

09:25 ....and there's a longnose Dora that has latched onto my 6 and aaaaagghhh!

Hi in your opinion how would rate each warbird in DCS? I’m looking at getting another one in the sale I current have the spit and p51 Which would you suggest to get and why Thanks

I’d love to know what your setup is: joystick, thruster, VR, etc.

My problem is on 1440 monitor is keeping track of the planes, it seems if I lose sight then I won't find them again until I'm getting shot at 😅. This is without labels on because I'm training to get for online.

My next module in queue. Still waiting for an Anton to be fixed though.

Would be nice if they gave the US fighters their historical performance. My understanding is that the P-47 is only running on 56"HG Wet WEP, which is ~500hp lower than what it was using months before any 109K4 was in the air.

First fight is textbook high alt 47 chasing away germans.

why don't you use the gyro gunsight

How does the water injection work?

Now against a 190 :)

I don't like how you re-recorded. I'm struggling to follow your train of thought when flying due to the fact that you're looking one way with track IR, but in the game you were looking a completely different way with vr

I always destroy my Engine when dogfight with the p47 🥴

Another thing that annoys me is how ED modeled the .50s like pop guns. They do NO damage and just spark and look flashy. Nothing like how they work in real life. Of course all the other warbirds have cannons, so they just shred you to pieces with a few rounds. Yet in the 47 and 51 you have to literally put dozens and dozens of rounds into the target before it will actually go down. So so annoying.

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If the 109 at the end was skilled 1 below max.....i would say max skill is not really ace. the last fight you would have been shot down a couple of times, if a skilled player pilot would have been flown that 109.

Practice is good. But against the experienced 109, p47 and p51 will not do anything 1x1. Even a Spitfire can be twisted to 109.

if this was a human in k4 you would be dead .. its just fly circels in front of you and doest shoot,,,, lol

What kind of self respecting trainer doesn't talk about circles constantly? You're supposed to say the circle number like every 20 seconds!

The P-47 fights you every step of the way. It's so frustrating and annoying. Can't even flat turn in it without it fighting you and trying to just drop out of the sky. It absolutely HATES diving. Hates climbing. Hates everything. It's just a very hateful machine that does not want to do anything it's told.

Man, get on the trigger more!!