DCS T-38 Talon - Fighter Pilots First Impressions 

What an amazing surprise! Thank you for featuring our project! We have a lot of features planned to accurately emulate the Talon in DCS, and we hope it will get you excited! We're thrilled at the prospect of having you both test it out and share your insights. And yes, our livery artists are already working on your two liveries. :)

For extra immersion you should get banned from the training discord server if you get 3 UNSATs

What Gonky was saying about the T38 sounds like the F5 module which I think is super fun and challenging to fly. I would love to see the F-20 Tiger Shark. Same tiny airframe but with high TWR, Hornet avionics and modern weapons including Fox-3s

Speaking of force feedback in joysticks, many years ago while flying a glider out of Borders Gliding Club in Northumberland, I got feedback from the joystick as a pair of Tornadoes passed close by. For several seconds there was a very strong vibration in the stick, presumably due to resonance from the large ailerons and elevator in the Bocian - older training glider. I don't think the Tornadoes were inappropriately close and they were in straight and level flight, but one way or another they were making enough noise to vibrate the stick quite vigorously. It was an interesting experience. BGC is in the RAF's Northumberland low-flying area, so sharing the sky with these aircraft was just a fact of life, but on one occasion which I witnessed they did frighten the life out of one of our Tug pilots. He was just turning onto base after launching a glider and found himself looking at a Jaguar at the same altitude heading straight towards him. Fortunately both aircraft were able to deviate in time to avoid a head-on, but when the tug landed the pilot did a fast taxi to the clubhouse, rather than returning to the launch point. Ex-RAF himself, he was the club's liaison with the RAF and already had the right telephone number to start shouting at people about such an egregious airspace infringement. I always thought the sensible thing to do would have been to designate such civilian flying clubs in the Low Flying Area as honorary SAM/AAA sites as part of the training exercises, and that might have focused pilots' attention a bit more. Still, nobody ever got hurt, and I do miss the high levels of military training which we had in those years. You can go days now without spotting a Hawk, perhaps a Typhoon or F15E whereas the sky used to absolutely full of all sorts of aircraft.

Still the coolest looking lawn dart ever made! Ha! Maybe the F-5.

The t-38 being the ‘new thing’ in DCS is such an oxymoron. Shes a real old girl like a 85 year old librarian.

Max Afterburner started G-breathing every time he took a hard turn flying the F-16 in DCS. I can see the sim going from a sim to a horror game with a few tweaks.

"What are you gonna do with it in DCS?" Well, my Squadron will use it as a Trainer if Multicrew will be synced well enough.

We had no AOA indexer in 1969 when I trained in the 38.

I can't wait to hear you guys review this plane in DCS!

Totally awesome. Visuals are incredible!!!!

TY baby!

This better ship with the Mig28 paint job.

T-38 set some time-to-climb records circa 1960, making even better times than the F-4 in certain altitudes.

I really never thought about the t38 and f5 first flight was in 1959. wow🤔

Flying the f-4 and f-5 in dcs with the vp-rhino or the FFBeast force feedback stick is amazing ! With the later I can simulate the real weight of the stick at 7-8-9 G ! It’s amazing !

T-38 max performance take-offs are impressive even today, even more so when you consider when it was designed.

“It’s giving” 😂

Before you fly, you have to make it through standup. And don’t forget EPQs!

This is going to be badass. The white rocket rules!!!!

Thing should be called DCS: MiG-28UB and at least come with a respective livery. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="260">4:20</a> As a two decade + Microsoft Sidewinder FFB2 user (that thing is old enough to drink booze), I immediately preordered that Moza AB9 thing two weeks ago. ETA by then was 4 - 6 weeks. Need to get some extension stuff still, though. I won't have that thing right in front of me on the table like the SideWinder, it's literally like 8 inches up higher. Bit range / resolution goes up from 2048 to 65536 for me, which is insane. Need an extension for that, probably going with a 25cm gooseneck and a 15cm Sahaj below that so I get almost 16 inches of extension and put the thing right on the floor... BTW, "flitesim" also announced some Force Feedback (rudder) pedals! Is this really becoming the golden age of FFB flight simming, finally? <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="288">4:48</a> It's great already in the F-5E / MiG-28. Especially with the trim simulation. Oh, and it's a _total_ game changer in the helos as it literally adds force trim the way it's supposed to work, just saying! You will love it! <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="496">8:16</a> LOL!

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="46">0:46</a> is a feisty copy from Sky Fighters (2005)

Get haptic feedback guys! A jet seat and a butt kicker will have you feeling the rumble.

I just want to simulate the 1970s Thunderbirds on the aerobatics servers.

I like fighter plane since I was a kid, but I couldn't make my pilot dream, and instead, I achieved it with flight simulation. DCS gives me a lot of fun and comfort. To teach someone who is novice in flight simulation, you need to sit in the back seat of the fighter F5F to make it feel like it's flying, and it's interesting. Isomeone is developing the T38 Talon as a MOD, which I don't think makes much sense in the DCS gaming world because it's unarmed. (A very small group of people who've been flight-trained as real T38a in the U.S. are just toys to recall their memories, and T38 mod is not very useful to virtual filots who haven't been trained on real planes like us. There's no fun with weapon-firing, so where do you use the T38?) I heard that BELSIMATEK, the producer of F5E, has been merged into ED, but I think it will be F5F if you take a little care of the currently released F5E. How good would it be to make F5F in ED and sell it to people who already own F5E for around 20 dollar per COPY? What do you think about my opinion?

The 38 used to do great barrel rolls using a little rudder trim and back stick.

ENJPPT here we go

Still amazes me they'd stick students in a T-38, it's like a baby F-104. I'd figure they would at least want a ton more wing area to be a little bit more forgiving.

You sure could feel the elevator bob-weight shake if you were rough on the stick.

Mover, you don't have to buy it, it will be free module. Confirmed by the developers.

Virpil is workin on ffb also thank god

Pretty cool, but what piqued my interest is the B-2!

Shepard AFB...

Why im sure it will come out more polished and with far less bugs than the F-5E ?

Algorithmic engagement comment.

Those look like PMP engine intakes to me. The A model intakes should be smaller, no?

Can you imagine if it would also came with tablets with GPS?

Is it much different to fly than the F-5?

Hope they bring it over to MSFS2020 (and MSFS2024).

Hey, didn't you guys fly the talon for a week?😂

The free mods are great except you can’t use them in most multi servers

But the question is ... can it shoot?

2025 probably means 2026

There’s also a different group working on a T-38C, so we’ll have lots of good free trainer choices in the future.

Did you ever try minecraft ?

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="122">2:02</a> Poor T-38s. They minted USAF fighter and bomber pilots for over 60 years and this is the thanks it gets in its sunset years by you two?

Get the FFBeast over 30Nm

Nobody teaches pitch and power gouges any more. These are a basic part of flying the plane accurately without flight director, autopilot and autothrottles. You need to be able to all the flying on the basic six pack without automation and without a moving map. Now once you have an instrument rating they just teach you to use the automation, which accounts for the decay of flying skills.

Mover, Gonky, would you gentlemen discuss the differences between the front & back seats of the T-38 (and if there were various changes to those throughout the different versions), and also would you mind discussing the various different uses for AoA and how you practically apply that for different situations i.e. landing. Cheers gents, love your work - feel free to challenge people to dogfights in the VRA training server on DCS 🤟🏻😎🤙🏼