Very helpful in depth video! Just Curious, which of these loadouts would you use personally(since you know a lot more than me and have the experience) - What loadout if; Solo, Ranged, melee - It can be different forms(Wolf/Gorilla). Also what do you think of "replacing" Robot sidekick for Grim Art? And for Max damage should i run prec or might? Thanks in advance! Best regards / Alex
@@LyserOwn with nature its going to be dependent on the situation in the raid, sure I would always like to use Gorilla in FB and CT etc but if the group dies a few times that's impossible so you have to be ready to switch to a wolf rotation and be flexible. Currently there isn't really a spot for the Grimnorium artifact for nature, the HV builds will require Solar Amplifier and Transformation and Strategist are too powerful to leave off when taking into consideration the amount of dot ticks happening.
obsidian. im not sure if u will see this or not but please give some love to Fire man. im planning on starting a fire toon but idk where to start. show us some guidance
Finally someone who knows what he’s talking about I played years ago and my electricity build just wasn’t cutting it anymore switched to nature and seen so many ppl just not explaining everything. Very well done my friend 🤙
Ah, now I watched it, one thing I'd like to add for healer is that even though Flourish refreshes the HoTs on all affected players (and because of this, you're right saying you don't really need to reapply Metabolism), what really is the core of Metabolism is that it doubles the HoT ticks (or rather reduces the delay between two HoTs from the same source). So if a single HoT would heal you every 1s, metabolism reduces the timespan. So it somewhat makes sense to utilize it anyways if there is constant damage ticking. Also I still prefer the Setup of both the Orb of Arion and the Page of Destiny with the StratCard being the last one for the extra HoT. The reason is that constant damage can be healed by your HoTs and Flourish on CD itself plus the boost from Metabolism. When you really struggle is when there is an increased number of medium to bigger hits coming in. This is where I found the Page of Destiny useful and the Orb is used because you can't really fully control the damage the group takes. It isn't rare that someone drops to 20% and there is no Page going on and your HoTs plus Flourish won't cover it. The Orb really shines here and the Akolyte gives you time to re-HoT everyone and stuff since it constantly keeps healing. But then again, it is only my personal preference and I'm doing better solo healing portions of elite compared to when I was using Strat, Trans, Page.
@@jayt9821 I would ybh, I still use it for all my healing powers, specially for nature i guess its hard to not use Orb considering that nature doesn't have any burst heals
sorry for being late, actually Metabolism doesnt influence the pheromones. what it does is applying pheromones and then it applies a HoT with a high tickrate. If you open the effects, you can see the hot, also the healing amount of your pheromones and Metabolism are different. I like to run Strat, Trans and Page. Strat and Trans are too good for anything Nature does. Orb is nice, but a bit better on other powers.
First off!.....GLAD to see you back in the trenches. Good job on the video, a bit more detail than some of the others(which was needed) which IS a good thing! I'm HOPING this is a start of the "revamp" of your past videos, for the current state of Powers and Loadouts for BoP. Yes, even tho we're nearing the middle of the DLC, most ppl are coming into higher endgame CR's, and Arts are changing along with the climb. Personally, I'm HOPING you do Gadgets next, but that's just me! ... lol We need a more updated version of all these sets, at this point and time(which I'm going to assume that was ur plan), in comparison to the "lack" of reasoning that other videos are produced. Thanks once again for all your work!
Forgot to add the other reason why I wait 30s to refresh Wolf on Might Melee is that 30s is the internal cooldown for the 200 rank proc of Soul Cloak so I will get maximum supercharge regeneration if I wait for that rather than 20 seconds etc.
ObsidianChillDCUO where does it say the cooldown is 30s? It only says it on the chest mod which you wouldnt use. I leave and go back into wolf every 13s to always have the crit buffs and 10% damage bonus
@@DarkxNemesis the 200 proc is the same as the extended sc chest mod except that its 7% instead of 5% and that they don't stack. Batuba basically just added the mod to the artifact just like solar amplifier has empowered channeling. You can go back in that often if you'd like but without a SC spammer in the group you'll never be able maintain using that much supercharge throughout an entire raid
My nature wolf form hits 1.7 mil 3 target 2.2 mil 8 target in 10 seconds my might only 66k 325 sp tetrahedron trans and strategist STRATEGIST IS MAIN PART OF MY DAMAGE I lost 400k on 10 seconds changing out strategist card for solar amp (hence more might) trust me you want a op nature build this is not it this is decent. Idk obsidian does not like tetrahedron its op I'm not counting on someone else to have it. If they do then I will change to solar amp
ObsidianChillDCUO I meele and range in healer role which is why i can maintain it every 13s. I use neo venoms and wolfs constantly together as well due to 200 soul cloak and 5% back from neo head mod
Welcome back! Just wanted to share that the Pheromones from Savage Growth and Bloom will overwrite each other. If anyone is running Bloom (which they shouldn't) they need to take off Savage Growth or it's a wasted power slot.
For those of you that want a non animal build.. lol for the ranged aoe I run 3 dot powers, voracious plants throwx3, then harvest then repeat throw x3(voracious plants). Last power slot is robot sidekick. Yes this Rotation is weaker than animal forms but it’s still better than pretty much all other powers x electricity maybe. Just so everyone knows, cuz like me I can’t stand not looking at my character lol😎and I know there’s people out there that don’t like the look of animal forms
Hey chill have you looked into the range of flourish for the H0Ts resetting? It’s seems based on the tests we ran a few weeks back that Flourish only continued to spread to the closest allies and not the farther ones. Essentially the farthest person would not continue to receive H0Ts from flourish which would mean you would have to recast your H0Ts. This can be seen in FB and even if you two test the flourish. It stops the H0Ts from continuing at a certain range.
I am not keen on Gorilla for some reason and I have found you can get better damage for Wolf Single Target if you set up the 3 dots then go Wolf, hit Harvest, Grapple Line and Zip Tie (need to be acrobatics), Heat Vision and Sonic Shout, then repeat. Sonic Shout does almost twice the damage of Impaling Thorns and is group damage. I am running Solar Amp, Strat and Trans cards. I think they may have buffed Sonic Shout cos it never did 150k crits before and with this load-out the timing just works for cool downs.
Charlie going full single with the 2 acro movement powers certainly works and they have quick animations. Sonic shout was boosted a lot by the trans artifact procs, it is however midrange damage so a player would have to watch their positioning ( in addition to turning down or off their in-game sound :P)
@@ObsidianChill affirmative eagle one!! Also!! With this new UNGODLY Nature nerf, is it safe to say that this video is still relevant? As it seems the nature nerf only affects cool downs of transformations. Nature in itself appears to survive this nerf given it's numerous variations in loadouts.
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What's the value of using Thorn Burst instead of Harvest? Also, it seems fairly often when I'm fighting a boss, my poisons fall off even tho I'm using harvest plenty often. Is this a bug or is there a reason for it? Thanks!
Thorn burst would only be for melee situations as it has higher base damage than harvest. As for your poison's wiping there are numerous boss mechanics during fights that will cause your dots to drop, its unfortunate but the devs didn't design those fights with nature in mind so it can happen then you have to re-apply everything :(
@@ObsidianChill Damn, that is a bummer. Even so, it's good to know that it's how the game works so I know I'm not doing something wrong. Thanks a ton for the reply!
the wolf rotations will be the most common, because its faster and most easier to maintain a 2500 SC cost than trying Gorilla and wipining or dieing and losing a 5000 SC each time.
Krypto Analyst since the guy is not answering you properly because he don’t want the secret out. It depend on the situation, if it’s single target fight go gorilla and if it’s aoe go wolf form. You have to keep swapping gorilla or wolf depend on the situation.
I been running trans strat page, the HoTs with trans strat is ridiculous, then if you happen to get distracted page is a literal life saver giving you time to hit savage>meta to get ppl filled if they're 50%^, or savage>meta>cross poll if ppl have dropped down to like 10% which at this point page kicks in and pops ppl up to 40-50% health with a HoT left on them from what I can see. Then use above combos to bring ppl up depending on health percentage missing. Once the GU106(107? The nature changes) it's out on live I plan to try bug form with no EoG/scrap just to see how much crit boost I get for the 15 sec window.
So if you do use orb you would just cycle cross poll/sav/meta/flourish(when needed ofc) and when its needed shields and priority? Havent played nature since probably T4 was top tier bout to return to my OG power today after nearly 6 years. Water and electric makes everything too easy imo and that's pretty much all I've been lately(last 4 years)
@ObsidianChillDCUO is there a setup for gear/artifacts for a Range Spec? Both your Might and Percision are for melee? I just started so I apologize if I dont understand
Your videos are really good and thats why i subscribed to your channel. I want to ask if it is possible to speak a little bit slower but louder for your audiences whose first language is not English? Thank you:)
Save me. I just switched back to tanking and i have no idea how my loadout and rotation be for Earth. I’m trying to improve my aftershock. My loadout is the pull , epicenter , jackhammer , hard light shield , gemstone shield & poise SC. Arts are prototype at 200. Eye of Gemini at 160 & Manacles at 160. Any tips?
Sif for the stun. I only jackhammer for 4 hits at first and then just one tap it and clip it w shields to maintain stone skin. It’s great for stunning adds , makes kiting so much easier
Nasser Alajme I use jackhammer, Epi, gemshield , totem (only needed for boss fights, u can run earthen grip on adds if u wants, but Epi is usually all the pull I need) pheromone sc for 911 heals, and brick. Earth has the best defense of all tanks so I pull, block, and jackhammer to cc a lot. I virtually never die even on man bat with no healer. Just make sure u block if ur taking decent damage
Sif jack hammer has massive crowd control, best damage u can do as earth tank, and gives u 55% damage reduction which is good for either giving ur brick a break (I run totem so my brick rarely dies) or if brick does die u have the dog reduction until u can call ur brick back out. Over all jackhammer is an essential move
Harley Freitas I love the idea of this loadout! Thank you so much ... also , why not use fortify instead of totem? Sometimes brick takes spike damage and totem can’t really do 20k+ heals
The King of nature Top Stooge, the one who created the beastly nature loadout. Here click on link have a look ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c8ZATyLqS0M.html
So if you're waiting for your super charge to fill up for wolf might dps. What does the normal form rotation look like why filling up that super charge?
i am confused on something. on your load out for range you have robot sidekick and i have set up the exact same load out but it seems like i have to resummon my robot sidekick whenever i go into wolf form. is that right or is my robot sidekick dying or something? the power is set on both load outs (damage and wolf form)
Why are you using the “Max Damage” hands mod on a healing load out? No offense, I was just wondering. Because wouldn’t you want something to like... help you heal? Just a question! Have a good day! PS: Yes I know I’m late, 😉. I just switched to nature, so I came to the best for a load out. ❤️
there are no hand mods that help you heal,. channel heals like for the empowered channeling mod aren't recommended in most cases (ie for nature its bloom) cause its more effective healing in most situations without it
Here's a stupid question...why in your rotation vids do the sparring targets not get thrown around, especially when doing something like Doom Spin. My League Hall targets go all over the place and I lose so much damage cos i cant hit them all as they are so far apart. Is there some trick I am missing here?
Hey bro can u break down why u don't run extended SC in ur chest rather than pen strikes plz. I know u always say ur not convinced core strength does much. JW why u wouldn't run ex SC bc doesn't it stack w the head mod
Extended sc is a personal choice, I don’t run it for wolf because I have soul cloak and it doesn’t stack and for gorilla you can but I feel for gorilla the extended isn’t as practical because I’m usually at 100% by the time I need to use gorilla again. If I was losing supercharge that quickly I would just switch to a wolf build
are you asking for superspeed rotations? cause im acrobatics in every loadout in this video. I said in the video what you would do if you were superspeed, ignoring the exploit rotations you'd just sub in tornado pull on wolf and gorilla single target and dervish instead of sonic cry on wolf melee
With Orb you don't have to spam priority heal. The pet spams it every 1 second for you freeing you from doing that. so you cast it once every 12 seconds at 200 rank and concentrate on other heals.
Would you suggest someone who usually blind Q or LFGs their content to switch to nature? I'm currently 469sp and water, but just came back from a 4 month break from the game. Took a break because it was getting stale. So now that I'm back I'm thinking of going nature. But dont wanna regret it I guess.
nature will do fine in any blind que, alot of mechanics now adays in raids are shield penetration so having a powerset with as many HOTS as nature and less shields compared to other healer powersets it covers that deficiency
@@ObsidianChill is why I switched off water, because in my eyes water was a mitigation healer more then anything. Was very few times I'd break 50-75k power taken in doing a raid because of how I spec'd
Hi I just created a level 25 nature hero and every power load out works except for my wolf/gorilla/insect forms. Their load outs are faded and don't respond at all. Can you or anyone help me please?
you don't get the power regeneration penalty from using a pet like robot sidekick etc in a rotation. Its barely noticeable and really just 160-200 are just the statistical increase
I just getting back into DC and never used nature so my question is what do I do when my super is down how do I build it up fast IAM I just doing the DOT once then spamming voracious plants untill super is back up ?
Serpent call is your super charge generator, so while you keep your DOTS up hit serpent call every time you use harvest and keep doing your attacks cause everything generates SC a little.
So let me ask this, would bloom be better in situations where you are spread out where cross poll isnt viable? Then swap back to cross poll when its useable again?
Bloom can work well in instances where the group has taken alot of damage like in CTE or PCE but personally I don't like any of the channeled heals and at that point if I can't use cross poll due to the spread of the players I would simply run Regeneration SC at that point keeping blossom-meta-SG-Flourish-shield and then a SC
the real only difference is that impaling thorns the finisher is AOE in gorilla. Wolf has the crits that last 13 seconds then run out and gorilla is 10% passive buff. In raids that are pure s/t it doesn't matter as much but any fight that has adds too with the boss gorilla is huge dmg increase
ObsidianChillDCUO oh okay so it’s good idea for FnbE for example ? Cause adds and single target . Could use it with Trans, strat and Solar , no SC needed I think . Ty
nothing really changed. Gorilla is the same rotation used now. Wolf is the same rotation used now its just that you can't refresh it but you still keep 2 pi's and then 3 burst moves
@@ObsidianChill Thanks man... One more question. I got my Orb of Arion to 100 and It summons Spectral Acolyte when I use Blossom for healer... once that Acolyte comes out, do I select another move for it to spam? How does that work?
true, however you wouldn't be using bloom to apply a stack, you'd be using bloom to heal npcs and to give a larger sustained heal over time when the group has taken damage similar to zeus FGSE etc
those 3 certainly do well, I personally prefer orb over page but that is a playstyle preference that isn't for everyone as they would not be used to the power consumption and not being able to hit blossom multiple times
@@ObsidianChill well I have 92,894 power at cr302, and a priority heal is iirc 27k or around there. I currently run orb. But was contemplating on page as it has the safety net when it comes to elite.
