Dwyrin, you look surprised of their "DDK level". In my experience (2-3k), there are two types of low kyu players (let's call them that instead, DDK is a bit... rough. There is a world of comprehension of the game between a 14 kyu and a 7kyu). The first type loves watching go videos (such as yours), read, learn, watch pro games etc. and has a good sense of "big moves" and "shape". Some 7 or 8kyu can have an opening and a sense of direction (until earlymid game) close to dan level, even if they often play too passive. However, as soon as something goes out of the ordinary (crazy invasion, contact fighting, l&d...) they crumble because they read badly and don't train this skill. In short: they are interested in the "strategic" aspect of go, but lack the "tactics" to make them work. The second type doesn't even know about basics or big moves. They don't care. They just fight the whole game, invade everywhere... this is the kind of "fox players" you encounter regularly. So how can they be the same level you ask ? Because they read better, they know how to fight. They are the kind that win a game that was 2% in their favor in lizzie because they make the 1st kind of players do silly mistake. But to your eyes, their reading is just as bad as the first one. So you just see a player with no "basics" AND no reading and assume this is the general level of 5-15kyu. So when the 1st type of low kyu player appear, you look confused and often say things like "he is better than a 8 kyu...". No he isn't. The first player of the video was pure 8 kyu. Typical play and mistakes included. It's just that he is from the 1st type (rare on fox, but common on OGS or KGS for example). And yes, his understanding of "big moves" and attack/defense is worlds apart a 15 kyu for example (mid DDK).
@@dwyrin I agree with that sir. The analysis of the player type was pretty close though. The builders and fundamentalist hang out on the ogs in kgs. The fighters tend to populate foxy and Tygem. That is why I play on both servers to get a healthy serving of each skill. It's what makes you so good dwyrin. You fight on all the servers and deal with all the play styles
Hi, I'm a 10kyu fox myself. Im always attacking. What should I read or learn so that I can learn about the tactics and strategy more in depth? Could you suggest me a book or video?
Your first game reminded me of many of my really old games from years back. The 8k was playing kind of careful at times. I'm surprised that he knew enough not to try to cut through you on the top group.
Wasn't e2 a big move in the first game? He can't drop down so you get to connect under and reduce (in gote). P.S. Thank you SO much dwyrin for your awesome content, especially your basics series. I've started playing Go back in August and thanks to you I've breached into sdk land on ogs earlier today :)
I meant big in terms of growth or aggression. If he falls into a passive defense game then he'll be staying there the rest of the game and that is a problem
was ist not disrespectfull to not play the best moves? i think i would learn much more when the best moves are played. Feels like you play chicken moves and waiting for mistakes
buddhas plant lol he’s showing that there are reasons he’s winning the game beyond being better than his opponent. Aka big moves vs taking advantage of tactical mistakes
Well, the only slightly disrespectful thing he does is having a teaching game with an opponent that didn't actively agree to having such a game. Teaching games are about the weaker player (and us viewers) being given the opportunity to learn at the level the opponent is currently at. That often means playing simpler moves that aren't bad but that also won't overwhelm the student. If a dan player went all out on a ddk player all the ddk player would 'learn' is that he can't follow a dan players thoughts, let alone ever consider winning against one...
@@lenascholz I've seen also other games and he does stupid mistakes because of this (in my oppinion) bad habit. I dont have a proof that it is because of this but im a profisportsmen and normally u act like this you are training bad habits. Teachinggame ok. But for your own game it can be quite unhealthy if you do it that often. and i see him playing most of the time against weaker enemys.
