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I don't think that's right, although most old articles are quite hard to find now. The triggered abilities of morph creatures use the stack for obvious reasons. But imagine I pay 6 mana to flip Akroma Angel of Fury, which has no triggered abilities. If this used the stack, you could shock my creature in response knowing which morph it is after I pay 3RRR. Thanks to state based actions, there goes all my mana.

Nowadays, they could have made the ability have like, super-Split Second, right? Feel like that could make some amount of sense.

It was printed in a set with shock. Mkm also has shock. The other important reason is that paying the cost gives information that generally reveals what the creature is so there shouldn't be a window where they can know what it is and have an opportunity to counter it.

I've heard the same thing, making flipping the card face up a special action prevents a scenario in which a lightning bolt can kill the creature after you've pumped a bunch of mana into it, resulting in a huge blow out. If Morph (and manifest) used the stack, it would be an ability so shitty no one would play it, even by early Magic standards

Certain rational interactions are impossible unless flipping a card face up with morph, etc... is a special action.

400.4a If an instant or sorcery card would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone.

unguise

Guise. Just guise.

This was a bit of a special case because it's MKM week. I knew I needed to have a video on face-down spells and permanents, and I knew I wanted to publish it by Friday so people could see it before the first FNM with the new cards. Usually, I produce these videos only one or two days ahead of when they're published, which lets me procrastinate the maximum amount...I mean it lets me be flexible and respond to people's questions faster!

Yes. The easiest way to do this would be with the manifest (or more recently, cloak) mechanic. These do not count as being transformed, nor does it count as such if they are turned face up, even though these are achieved by performing the same physical action [CR 701.28b].

@@JudgingFtW Thank you

Since the required action didn’t happen, it wouldn’t trigger

701.34 does only apply to manifests (it may be updated with MKM to apply to cloaks too), but there are two other rules that take into account other things "701.34f: If a manifested permanent that's represented by an instant or sorcery card would turn face up, its controller reveals it and leaves it face down. Abilities that trigger whenever a permanent is turned face up won't trigger." 708.7 says that "spells normally can't be turned face up". I'm assuming it means instants and sorceries, but it is weird that it's phrased that way. "708.7: The ability or rules that allow a permanent to be face down may also allow the permanent's controller to turn it face up. Spells normally can't be turned face up." 725.2 explains what happens if an instant or sorcery is part of a mutate pile. I assume this would happen if you manifest one, mutate onto it, then cast ixidron to turn the rest of it face down "725.2g: A face-down merged permanent that contains an instant or sorcery card can't be turned face up. If such a permanent would turn face up, its controller reveals it and leaves it face down. Abilities that trigger when a permanent is turned face up won't trigger."

I believe that your opponent is required to show you face down cards when the game ends if they’re still on the battlefield. They might get put back in their hand or something during the game though, so this doesn’t cover every possibility

@@nathanenoughalready3518 The face-down cards must be revealed any time they leave the battlefield regardless of where they go.

Disguise means “You may cast this card as a 2/2 face-down creature with ward 2, no name, no subtypes, and no mana cost by paying 3 rather than paying its mana cost.” It is a Goblin spell, but in order to get the Goblin discount, it would have to have a mana cost and you would have to pay the mana cost. Instead, you are paying 3, and the discount does not apply.

Thanks a bunch!

If a permanent is already face-down, Ixidron cannot turn it face-down again. The Cyberman will not be affected at all by Ixidron's ability.

@@JudgingFtWI meant after the Disguise cost has been paid. So the Cyber Conversion was making the back side a Cyberman artifact, but now that Disguise has been paid, you explain that it is no longer a Cyberman artifact since that only applied to the back side. So now if an Ixidron is played (Defenestrated Phantom is faceup at this point), does the backside of Defenestrated Phantom still remember that it was a Cyberman artifact? Or when Defenestrated Phantom was turned face up with the Disguise ability, does it lose that information? Do you have a CR section that explains this? Thanks so much!

I don't understand the premise of this question. What does one have to do with the other?

@@JasonOshinko with an effect that makes a morphed creature a copy of a different creature that has a morph cost, you could use the morph cost, right? And it would still be the copied creature? But does that then not work if the manifested card is an instant?

@@JasonOshinko I think I understand. They're asking: If you make a manifested instant/sorcery a copy of a creature with morph, can you turn it face up? I don't know the answer though. EDIT: Looking at manifest in the CR makes it pretty clear. "If a manifested permanent that’s represented by an instant or sorcery card would turn face up, its controller reveals it and leaves it face down." So the answer is no, it cannot be turned face up because even if it is a copy of a creature with morph, it is still represented by an instant/sorcery card.

It doesn’t have the ability when it dies (leaves the battlefield), so will not trigger the undying

The “doesn’t have the ability as it dies” thing also applies to replacement effects, fun fact. So if you have a Nexus of Fate manifested and it dies, it can go to the graveyard. I know it sounds crazy, but I asked like four different judges and that’s what they all told me.

mana value of morphed spell is 0, so i think so

I saw that card while researching for this episode and knew I had to cover this interaction because it tripped me up the first time I thought about it too!

Yes. The "no creature types" thing is just what the default characteristics are. Face down creatures can gain creature types via this kind of effect just like any other creature.

You would need to be clear which card was which. From the MKM Release Notes: You must ensure that your face-down spells and permanents can be easily differentiated from each other. You're not allowed to mix up the cards that represent them on the battlefield to confuse other players. The order in which they entered the battlefield should remain clear, as well as what ability caused them to be face down. (This includes disguise, cloak, and in games involving older cards, morph and manifest, as well as a few other effects that turn cards face down.) Common methods for doing this include using markers or dice, or simply placing them in order on the battlefield.

This means I must make clear which card entered the battlefield first, but it does not address anything concerning the fact that one of the cards is my commander.

@@igNights77 So according to rulings on r/mtgrules your commander is always identifiable as a consequence of CR 903.3. So even face-down due to morph, shuffled into your library and then manifested, etc, your commander is known to your opponents, because the card itself is designated as the commander. You can probably get more clarifications there. 903.3. Each deck has a legendary creature card designated as its commander. This designation is not a characteristic of the object represented by the card; rather, it is an attribute of the card itself. The card retains this designation even when it changes zones.

@@igNights77 From what I found, as a consequence of CR903.3, your commander is always identifiable, even if face down, shuffled into your library and then manifested later, etc. This is because the commander quality is a consequence of the card being designated as the commander, regardless of being face up or down. As such, your opponent is always aware of which card is your commander.

I knew about it before...let's just say that Yedora has come up once or twice in rulings people have suggested for me to cover XD

@@JudgingFtW I never heard of it! 😅

You're probably thinking of the recent rules change allowing tokens to transform under certain circumstances.

The only time, to my knowledge, that a face down creature would not return from a flicker effect is if it wasn't a permanent card on its front face. So if you manifest an instant from your deck then flicker it, it cannot return to the battlefield as an instant so it stays in exile.

In addition to the case described above, it's also possible you were thinking of tokens or of modal DFC's whose back face is a creature, but whose front face is an instant/sorcery.

paper and pencil

You stop being friends with that person. Nobody needs that in their life.

You are actually required by the rules to distinguish between the creatures, so hope you brought lots of dice.

Call the game a draw and crack open a 6 pack of beer.

@@JudgingFtW "Judge!"

Yes because if they cast a morph and it gets remanded, they need to prove that they were actually casting a morph rather than trying to bait out a counterspell by claiming something had morph. It's the same reason that your need to reveal your morphs when the game ends or when they leave the battlefield.

This may be true, but I recognize that my audience contains a significant proportion of international viewers for whom English is a second language. In a previous video, I saw a comment that my use of this term confused one of them, so I wanted to add that explanation to make it more clear in this video.