Dead Body in Basement Reveals Perplexing Evidence | Amanda Antoni 'Unsolved Mysteries' Case Analysis 

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My maternal aunt died in a staircase fall and her death was considered an open case for quite awhile. Finally, a reconstruction heavily indicated that my aunt accidentally fell and sustained injuries that mimicked criminally inflicted ones. Her son, my cousin, was at first suspected of murder, but our family urged the police to continue investigating.

One thing that struck me while watching the episode was the husband saying how he didn't think something horrible might have happened after the call broke down. But the worst is the first thing you think of in situations like these, and you want to make sure that the person you were talking with is actually fine. You call relatives or neighbors to go and check what is going on. In this case, checking in on her might have saved her life. They were texting all day on that Saturday, but for some reason, on Sunday after not being able to reach her, knowing how the call broke down last night, he doesn't do anything. It truly is a baffling case

My cousin fell down a flight of stairs and died. He was a young man, in the military, fit and healthy. He had been drinking.

Yes, accidents DO occur-In '19, I lost my footing, fell down a flight stairs that go to my garage. It was a terrible accident, I woke up on my left side w my head in the drywall up to the bridge of my nose. I still have no idea exactly how long I was unconscious. And I have no memory of going down the stairs. It took me a long time to realize that I had to crawl back up & to the house phone to call 911. I was life flighted to a trauma center. I had a lot of injuries BUT incredibly, my head, neck & internal organs were all okay. If I'd had been over less than 1/8th of an inch, I would've went into a 2x4 and would've died. It's nothing short of a miracle that I'm alive.

Who on gods green earth thought that stairwell design was a good idea?

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I find it interesting that no one has considered the migraine in her death… how that could have impacted or exacerbated both her injuries and behavior post fall/shove.

Her neighbors were on the episode saying “we heard a distressed dog barking and a scream”. But then proceeded to do nothing. If they lived in a high crime area, why wouldn’t they do the bare minimum? Not that I think they did anything wrong, but it took her some time to bleed out and they could have had the cops there sooner.

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I think this could be a combination of a break in, attempted robbery and freaky accident. A junkie got inside through an unlocked back door, she tried to fight him, he shoved her, the dog was beside her making her trip, she hit the piggy bank and fell down the stairs. The intruder freaked out and ran away.

Her footprints in her blood make me think of the case where a college kid goes home and attacks his parents with an ax. In the morning his dad gets up and walks outside and retieves the paper, goes back in and dies shortly after that inside the house. It is sometimes crazy what a severely injured person is capable of.

I got shivers when they started mentioning no footprints, and the animals not going down to her body, then remembering at the start of the episode that he said she didn't like to go down to the basement, also chilling picturing her stood at the base of the stairs but didn't ascend for whatever reason, creepy af

This case is an incredible mystery to me. I disagree with some people here saying Lee is suspicious. Nope. The investigators said that they checked him out thoroughly during the investigation, and found nothing, ruled him out. He was literally shown on camera video recordings, at various gas stations, on that particular road to the town where his mother lives, as he said he was. We know he was there. The fact that he didn't call Amanda's parents to check on her is explainable, and in fact, even normal. As he said himself: he called her all the time the previous two days and on Sunday too, and it's proven by the cell phone data, as they presented in the documentary, so he did check on her. But he was also dealing with the inheritance, these are very intense and serious matters. Sometimes it happens that in such situations, a person simply devotes all their attention to what is closest to them, and what they must focus on now - in Lee's case, these were inheritance matters in the town where he was, far from Amanda. He had been calling her all the time before the accident, and this is proven on her and his phone, in the data, so we know it for sure, so he simply had no reason to worry about her. Only when such an unexpected tragedy happens, does a person start to analyze as you do, that we could have been more careful, that we could have done more, etc., but when people live their ordinary, everyday lives, and don't expect anything bad, are very busy with other serious matters, they often don't think as you present it. What's more, the neighbors said that they saw a stranger running away from Amanda's house, and again, Lee was recorded on surveillance camera miles away, where he said he was. So nope, it wasn't Lee. The hard evidence rules Lee out. The accident theory doesn't explain the scene in that house either. First, even if Amanda's disorientation from the loss of blood is possible, and possibly explains why she didn't come back up the stairs, it doesn't explain why the dog didn't run into the basement to her. Anyone who has a dog, and especially a dog that has been with the family for so many years, as in Amanda&Lee's case, knows there is absolutely NO WAY, NO WAY, that the dog would not come running to you if you were in such a dire, violent circumstance! It is also a fact that if you were hurt that way, some sort of scream or loud distressing sound would come out, as is always the case of any human severely hurt, even just because of the physical pain, so the dog would hear it and be alarmed right away! Again, the neighbors confirmed they heard the terrifying barking of Amanda's dog and freighting scream, possibly Amanda's, so we know the dog was distressed as if smth went terribly wrong. So why did the dog bark aggressively and not go down the stairs? Because someone was there and prevented him from it! The accident theory also doesn't explain how the various objects were placed in the house. Could Amanda have fallen because of a severe migraine, dropped the phone, knocked the chair over on the floor, and fallen down the stairs, injuring herself on the piggy bank? Yes, except that the phone and chair were too far from the basement stairs for that to make sense, as the main investigator said himself in the episode, and the laundry basket was standing straight, intact, right at the bend of the stairs. If Amanda had fallen alone, in such an accident, then the basket would have been knocked over too! That basket was literally at the beginning of the stairs, at the bend, so Amanda would have hit that basket as well, falling alone, and since she didn't go back up the stairs, that basket would have been knocked over, but it wasn't!! Because a stranger, an assailant who pushed her, adjusted it later and put it back on the stairs. And one last thing, why was Amanda's pants down and no one is talking about it? In this documentary, it's specifically stated by the investigators that Amanda had her panties down, and it's also shown in the notes of the first officer on the scene. The only reason why Amanda would have taken her own panties off if it was an accident and she was home alone would be because she had to pee, and since she didn't have the strength to go back upstairs to the bathroom, she decided to pee in the basement. Except we know there was no trace of urine or other feces in the basement, Amanda didn't pee, so the ONLY explanation is that someone else must have taken her panties off! Investigators said they found no traces of semen or signs of a sexual assault, but that doesn't mean no one tried. Someone tried to rape her, but maybe something scared him away, maybe the attacker decided he wouldn't be able to rape her, that he didn't have time, etc., gave up, and ran away. The point is, that ONLY the attack of a stranger theory explains everything, the whole scene in that house, period! The assailant was maybe very smart, could have had gloves on and then erased all traces of the crime, or the assailant started something upstairs - for example, he tried to rape her upstairs and pulled her panties down upstairs - and then when he failed to rape her, in a fit of rage, he pushed her down the stairs, but he never went down to the basement himself, which is why there are no other traces in the basement. But as I remember, the detectives in the film said that some traces there resembled smearing the blood to cover up the footprints, so maybe someone went down there and then covered it up! Anyway, the smart and prepared attacker is the only theory that makes sense... but is it? One problem still exists: the dog didn't go downstairs even once, even after the attacker left. Someone in the comments said that some dogs are afraid to go to the basement, also, old dogs often can't walk down the stairs because their legs are damaged, etc but these are concrete circumstances that simply don't apply in this case because Amanda's family in the episode said that dog was healthy, and he would have run to her to the basement for sure, so he wasn't afraid to go down to the basement! Maybe the dog simply calmed down and let it go, as he was prevented from going downstairs at first, or maybe the attacker gave the dog some sleeping pills/medication to neutralize him. It wasn't said in the documentary, if the investigators actually checked, or tested the dog to see if smth was done to him to neutralize him, if they didn't that is a serious error! Special medications to neutralize home animals exist on the market, I read/heard of criminals using such substances to 'knock out' home animals during robberies, countless times! If nothing was done to the dog, even tho other explanations exist and it could have been random, it's still very strange, because your devoted pets, especially a dog, would absolutely check on you during 44 hours of such horror! Just baffling!

2:57 - I'm no criminologist, but the moment I saw the entrance to the stairway, I could tell it was an accident waiting to happen. It was way too open to be safe. Far too easy to trip over the corner where there should have been a railing. (Not that I'm judging them, I could see myself purchasing a house and thinking 'I'll get it installed soon...I'll get it installed soon...' Anyhow, such a sad story. And what a nightmare scene for her poor widower to discover. I imagine that image will haunt him forever.

Wow Dr Grande is rarely 'on the fence' regarding a case.

Things I find odd. If my husband was away and we were talking and the last call we had was what Lee described (dog barking, phone cuts out etc) there is no way my husband would just accept that. And let 48 hours go by after that without contact. No way. He’d either get home or get police to do a wellness check. Also the pets. Was there animal waste in the house? The dog was in there for 48 hours without being let out. If so where? Why weren’t there paw prints in the blood?

I think the key here is the Migraines she was prone to, particularly that weekend. Maybe she had a sudden onset in that moment that she started to lose conscience. She dropped her phone, fell over the chair and then tripped at the stairs smashing her head into the piggy bank. After falling down the steps and starting to bleed out she struggled with conscienous and was highly diorientated. She struggled down in the basement and eventually lost too much blood.

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The dog not going down stairs is a mystery

This case really gets to me, I have spent a long time thinking about it. It just looks like a break in and murder but there is hardly evidence of one, there's no footprints other than Amanda's, and there was so much blood it seems impossible someone could have murdered her and left without leaving a trace of it anywhere else in the home. I thought maybe it was her husband before he left on the trip and he took her phone to pretend to be communicating with her, sending texts back and forth and placing a call. A few things bother me about him, like why he didn't call her family or for a wellness check after not hearing from her in 2 days after an abrupt hang up. I'm also very bothered by why she would never have attempted to go back up the stairs, like someone kept her from going up the steps, she just stood there at the bottom, then went back to the center of the room and died. I also kinda think an accident is a little possible though I don't understand the logistics, like why she'd roll around in her blood and get it everywhere, her pants even came down. She f she had that energy to do all of that after a fall and hitting her face on that piggy bank, why couldn't she go back up the stairs? This case drives me NUTS.

1. The chair was flipped over about 10 feet away from the stairs 2. The cell phone was broken about 8 feet away from the stairs 3. She stood at the bottom of the stairs after her injury but did not go back upstairs Conclusion: An altercation occurred upstairs, she was thrown or fell down the stairs and she decided not to go back upstairs in fear of another confrontation.

If the footprints on the floor of the basement are pointed towards the steps, then she was on her feet for a little while after her injury, attempting to get back towards the stairs and upstairs. That would make me think that after she fell down the stairs and got badly injured, she recovered enough to get to her feet and tried to get help upstairs where her phone was. So, the fall down the stairs wasn’t fatal, at least initially.

I wonder if the husband left his car at his mother's, took another form of transportation back to his house, did the deed and returned to his mother's, then got in his car and drove home. With expert police investigation, some of these factors could have been uncovered. A mere superficial perusal of the situation could have overlooked clues staring them in the face.

Some dogs are afraid of stairs.

Anyone else wonder about this: he said to 911 that she was cold. But if he’d gone into the basement and touched her to check, he’d have stepped in blood and tracked it up the stairs. Blood was everywhere around her. It makes me think he didn’t touch her to see if she was cold. That confused me.

I am a Calgarian and it's always strange to hear stories from here on the internet. While this is a perplexing case, I think Amanda fell down the stairs. A very unfortunate story for this family.

So many situations involving the phrase "she supported him financially" do not end well.

I hit my head on an attic floor while jumping down the staircase. It was poorly built in terms of the spacing and you had to duck to get down. I had a scary experience and was just trying to get out as fast as I could. I woke up about 60-70 minutes later with blood coming out of my mouth, ear and nose. I was working late for a client, was alone and no one knew where I was. I barely managed to call my wife who brought my grandad to drive me home. When they got there I’d passed out again. I was ultimately fine and did not go to the hospital. My point was that these accidents are fairly common. She sustained a head injury and was likely concussed. It does not explain the neighbor seeing someone running but given the location and proximity to tomfoolery I wouldn’t put as much stock into this eyewitness account. I find myself on the fence as well Doc but also lean accident.

Reasons why I don't think this was an accident: 1) The dog was already barking heavily when she was on the phone and a yell was heard by the neighbors. 2) There is no way that any of the animals would not go down to check on her for an entire 36 hours. No paw prints on the blood at all. (This in fact, remains unexplained; unless, someome restricted the animals somehow). 3) Apparently she was found with her pants down. 4) The chair turned over and the phone shattered are consistent with getting up suddenly or some type of struggle.

What an eerie case.

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Some dogs are afraid of basement stairs and will not go down them no matter what. That could be the simple explanation as to why Ruby didn’t go down there.

I saw a statistic 10 years ago that said tripping over pets on the stairs was a leading cause of accidental deaths in the home. We had a little dog & 3 young kids at the time so I always taught them to be extra cautious around the dog and tried to keep the dog from our steps after that. I also had a relative who was half asleep in the night and walked into his basement thinking he was going into the bathroom. He dislocated his shoulder and it knocked him out. Doctors said if he wasn’t relaxed due to being been half asleep, he had a good chance of dying from that fall. Just from those things above, I’ve never understood people having open stair cases in their home. Non carpeted long stair cases should be walled off with a door you can lock IMO.

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I rarely believe the mysterious intruder excuse/theory, it's usually someone they know who murders them. Excellent points again. Thanks Dr G😊💜💜

Nobody mentioned that one of her cats probably tripped her? If your a cat owner, you know...

My husband died in a staircase fall at our home. He was upstairs pulling sheets off the bed. He came downstairs with the sheets in one hand, a coffee cup in the other, and slippers that didn’t fit him well. We usually tossed the sheets down the stairs, but, for some reason he didn’t do that. He suffered a traumatic brain injury and a broken neck. He spent 2 1/2 months hospitalized, but never recovered.

Regarding her not going back up the stairs- head trauma can make you do some seriously strange stuff. I was the victim in a serious hit and run a couple years ago, and my car at the time was from a pre-airbag era, so my head slammed directly into the wheel. I instantly blacked out and only regained consciousness midway through the ambulance ride, despite me evidently having been talking to the EMT the whole time. It was only upon going to the scrapyard to see my crumpled up car, that I realized some of the strange things I had done. My unconscious fugue-state self for some reason had the "foresight" to put the (completely stalled and dead) car into neutral as to not stall it, climb over the center to get to the passenger door, since mine was folded in, even take my keys out of the ignition as to not waste gas and/or ensure I could get home, but then just leave them on the floor of the car and leave them behind. I was presumably standing or wandering around in the street before the ambulance came, a passerby must have called the police or something. All of this is to say, her footprints at the bottom of the stairs before bleeding out are not even remotely suspicious to me, after head trauma like that, logic does not apply to your decision-making process, I can only imagine even moreso with the rapid blood loss she must have been suffering.

The biggest reason I do not understand *HOW* it could possibly be an accident’ is why then, we’re her pants around her ankles? Makes zero common sense

It may sound stupid but I think the dog was acting weird and that the dog knocked the phone out of Amanda's hand and ran away and knocked over the chair as a result. When Amanda, in her anger, tried to correct the dog, she tripped over the dog and into the basement. That explains why the dog didn't dare to go to the basement in 48 hours because the dog knew Amanda was mad at him. Dogs usually know that their owner can be angry and they also know when they have done something wrong. So the dog stayed upstairs because he was afraid of being punished and knew he did something wrong. Amanda was probably disoriented by the blow on her head and the migraine, so she walked around the basement until she passed out from blood loss.

Took me a few minutes to realise the video wasn’t about a couple named “Amanda and Tony” 😅

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I think the husband comment about the sexy panties is strange

There is like an eerie feel to this.

One reason for her husband not calling police is that if you live in a high crime area you learn not to call them because they act like you're the criminal for making a call.

It doesn't make sense that the dog never went downstairs.

I just saw the Netflix documentary. My opinion is clear, she fought someone inside the house , eventually she was pushed against the piggie (coins) caused the severe concussion , than she was pushed to the basement where she manage to stand up , but could not climb the stairs up because the killer was there. Also the animals behavior gives the signs that they were somehow denied access to the basement, because any dog would go there to check on its owner. Also , right in the beginning a neighbor stated that she heard she shouting once…also the distance between the iPhone and the basement places her in two diferente situations, also one chair was torn down. The killer had to be wearing gloves, explains there is zero prints besides Amanda.

I always joke that one day people will find me at the bottom of the stairs because I trip over my dog. Sometimes he darts in front of me while running down the stairs, and I trip over him. I've been lucky enough to grab onto the railing each time. The chair isn't far from the steps. Perhaps the dog darted in front of her, and she tripped over it, causing the yelping sound her husband heard. The chair is just a few steps away from the basement stairs. The photos showed the backrest was pointed toward the basment. When she tripped over the dog, she tried to grab the chair to break her fall. Instead, the chair tipped over, causing her to lose her balance again and stumble backwards toward the basement. She missed a step and attempted to turn around to grab the railing but missed another step, propelling herself into the piggy bank. The noise from that scared the dog, which then went into hiding. If her dog is like mine, he sits by the window until someone comes home if no one is around. He won't move from that spot. So, after a while, the dog assumed she had left the house came out of hiding and waited by the window until someone came home. After being knocked out, you don't just wake up and walk around like nothing happened. You're still dizzy and confused. She was already suffering from a migraine, and the hit probably made it much worse, along with the rapid loss of blood. She probably didn't know she was bleeding. And like she did earlier that day for her migraine. She decided to take a nap on the floor. It does sound like a crazy, sad freak accident.

Yes, a hard one but I disagree, what are the odds of hubby out of town (history of never going out of town) but it happened that very night? Detectives didn't do their work on this one, it happens all the time.

What made me think it was a murder was the ending.(mentions dangerous neighborhood and sister hating Amanda). How do neither of the dogs not go down to the basement, unless someone was keeping them from doing so.

One of the things that the episode blew out of proportion was the supposed criminal activity in Amanda's neighbourhood. Calgary is a relatively safe city and even the "bad" areas aren't even that sketchy. Castleridge is an older suburb with ordinary homes and working class families. The neighbours made it sound a lot worse than it actually is, which added fuel to the intruder theory. I think Amanda's death was a tragic accident. Head wounds can bleed out surprisingly quick and disorient the healthiest of people. Those stairs had an awful design and were an accident waiting to happen.

After watching this episode on unsolved mysteries on Netflix and now watching Dr Todd Granges insite on this case. I and my mother now have various reasons to believe Amanda’s husband is guilty of her murder or he is aware of who has committed her murder.

Based on the photos shown and the description of the injuries there is no way that a fall down the stairs could cause such bodily harm. Not only that, but the stair in the photo had carpet which would lessen any blow. The police botched this case. They need to be looking for a killer.

I find it sad that the kitties and dog were left to fend for themselves. I find it unsettling her husband went away for 3 days and never tried to figure out why she wasn’t answering phone calls. I find it VERY sad that this woman had such a tragic end. I guess we never know all the answers, I’m speculating. 🌵

My guess would be robbery gone wrong. She was going on that trip with her husband and wasn't supposed to be at home. Either somebody knew their plans or simply saw the car missing on the driveway. The intruder got into the house and was surprised by Amanda being there. I hope she will get justice someday.

It's funny that I just watched this episode on Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix not more than 10 minutes ago. I get on RU-vid and this pops up in my feed. It's August 2, 2024, 10:57 PM.

Do people here really believe it’s possible to trip over a dog on one side of a room, drop the phone and smash it violently, keep tripping to the other side of the room, fall down the stars and drop their pants off mid fall? Do these people have a big dog and know what it’s like to trip over it? Do these people truly believe the dog and the cat would stay out of the basement for the whole 2 days? Are you joking? Do you just like making up the laws of physics? That’s absolutely nuts.

I still feel like the dog not checking on her is the weirdest thing out of this whole thing. Like was the dog upstairs with someone it knew ?? If I’m way wrong pls to forgive I am very high on edibles (gummies) 😊

Dog: Mom is acting crazay and there blood. Im scare, not go down there! Detective: SUS!

The absence of concern and/or curiosity is at times really puzzling. I don't know much about the reactions of pets but I find it curious that they never ventured into the basement after the incindent.

IDK I'm kind of stuck on the severity of Amanda's injuries. When I was about her age, I fell down a flight of basement stairs. I was very bruised more than cut or scratched & experienced back pain for a few months. So....can anyone confirm sightings of hubby all 3 days he was gone??? No repeated attempts to reach her by phone is verrry suspicious.

What if maybe someone tried forced entry at the front door so she was jumped scared what would explain the phone, the chair down and also the barking of the dog, so she ran off fast down the stairs locked herself inside as a way to protect herself, while she accidentally trips off knocking her head and not getting back upstairs. This theory also explains the neighboors complaint of seeing someone. What dont make sense to me is the husband not calling anyone and sleeping soundly after not hearing anything from his wife for two days.

I’m surprised nobody is focusing on the fact that her pants were down around her knees. Unless they were very loose like untied sweatpants or something, this is unlikely a result of a fall down the stairs.

It's usually someone the victim knows, just because the husband was away does not mean he couldn't have arranged someone to go there and do this. Really more evidence is needed but it seems suspicious.

_A simple yet tragic stairwell accident, or a brutal murder perpetrated by a vicious killer? The truth of what happened to thirty-one year old Amanda Antoni may never be known. For in a society where 40% of homicides go unsolved, her case, like hundreds of thousands of others, may forever remain inconclusive. -- Stored under 'm' for 'mystery,' in the dead file of...The Twilight Zone._

Was there an insurance benefit for Lee (as the beneficiary) either valuable or recently opened? That always seems to be a circumstantial contributor.

Yes it’s a difficult one. The odd timing with the husband and his comment about her underwear plus the lack of response to his attempts to make contact and no 911 call 🤔

This reminds me of The Staircase and them saying a owl might have caused her to fall. If an intruder pushed her down the stairs and panicked that could explain the guy running away.

I can’t get over the fact that the blood had wipe marks, like someone maybe trying to hide their footprints/shoe prints. There’s another Unsolved Mysteries episode where the perp didn’t leave any footprints in the blood (there was a lot of blood). So it is possible for there to be no footprints left by the assailant in a bloody murder scene.

In the emergency call, she asked him to check to see if she wad still alive. He said "No, she's cold and yet there are no foot prints from when he checked Amanda.

40h and the dog didn't go down ?!! , the key of this case is the dog 🐶

That scene doesn't look like an accident, although those stairs look seriously suspect, it's like they are just there waiting for something or someone to make a mistake into a violent fall..

Would think someone with a migraine would simply let the dog out, then enjoy some peace and quiet. To trip over a chair, stumble toward the stairwell, turn right and fall headlong down the stairs is a bit of a stretch.

I saw the episode and the fact that the husband called her on Saturday, the call was cut off after hearing the dog barking and then he kept calling the rest of night, the whole sunday and he didn't do anything else hat's very suspicious

It’s so bizarre but chances are she tripped over the dog. Lee heard their dog, Ruby, barking excitedly (which the neighbours also heard), Amanda yells, “Shut up, Ruby!” The dog yelps, and then the phone goes dead. She injured herself to severely that she couldn’t make it up the stairs and her wounds were gushing. It wouldn’t have taken long for her to pass out. Most people want it to be the husband, but there’s just no evidence. Also, there’s no dna evidence of another person being down there in the basement with her at all and no dna evidence on the smashed piggy or her underwear.

First question that I ask myself is Why the husband didn’t call anyone or the police to ask for someone to check on his wife. Just so curious about that. His last call was on Saturday evening. And their call was interrupted involuntarily. And then nothing until 44 hours later. If my wife doesn’t answer my calls for a day I would definitely freak out. So will do her own family members. If someone has info about that. It’s not even mentioned on Netflix documentary

Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: A shiftless man kills his wife when she tells him he needs to get a job.

The one thing that baffles me about this case is the so-called piggy-bank. Both in this video and in the episode on Netflix, it is always referred to as a piggy-bank or ceramic pig of some sort. But it is clear, to me at least, from the pictures that it is in fact a sheep, which they ALWAYS neglect to mention. I understand that the incident had left the ceramic animal without a face so that a positive identification could not be definitively determined, but I'm quite confident that facial reconstruction would determine that it is not a pig.

It was 100 percent the husband, he did not kill her himself but he hired someone... There are many facts which point there 1. He was reported as erratic by the brothers of Amanda and the couple fought. 2. He did not contact any neighbour or her brothers for 2 days in which they had no contact and their call got abruptly disconnected. 3. He could have easily hired someone to kill her WITHOUT any contact on phone or mail, maybe he could have simply talked to them and hired them and hence left no evidence. 4. He tried to shift the focus of investigation twice, first by incriminating his sister and then mentioning the super weird fact about the panties. 5. He did not 'remember' that the back door was locked or unlocked... Imo there are just too many inconsistencies with the husband. He defo hired someone to do it

In the video you mention that if Amanda fell by accident down the stairs and somebody else was in the house at that time, this person could have possibly been accused of murder. This immediately reminded me of the Staircase Murder (Kathleen Peterson death) where her husband, Michael Peterson, was found guilty.

I don’t think he hired somebody. She decided last minute she wouldn’t accompany him bc she had a migrane. There is no way that he found a hit man that fast

I, too, fell down the basement stairs when I was 20 years old. I was knocked unconscious and only remember bits and pieces of the drive to the ER, doctors interrogating me ("did your husband do this?") and the police officer I babysat for asking me not if but why my husband did this to me (the ole reverse psychology ploy). If my husband did not ask our 2 year old daughter (he was busy with our younger baby) to check on me to see what was taking me so long to come back upstairs, I could have bled out like the poor girl in the story. Very sad for her.

Does anyone curious why there are few coke cans there ?

One thing i dont understand is there were no other footprints aside from hers left behind downstairs, they never said some were even from the husband's. They made it seem that everything, any movement was attributed to hers. But in the 911 call you can hear the husband say she's cold. So no other footprints/shoeprints in the crime scene? How can he know she's cold without going through yhe bloody mess and touching her

Her lover killed her.

after struggling with a large bowel movement I blacked out due to vaso-vagal something something and fell down 7 or 8 stairs to a landing. I destroyed my face and my nose bled everywhere. It was a very scary experience that serves as a warning. If you think you are going to pass out or black out just sit down, don't panic and try to run for help, just sit immediately down.

I have a problem with the husband's behavior.

My husband occasionally allows his phone battery to die and his phone will suddenly cut off. I don’t get alarmed when disconnected and also don’t when in unfamiliar areas as phone service can be spotty. One friend had a different carrier than mine and it frequently disconnected. I wouldn’t be suspicious when a call disconnects and allow the person to call back even if it’s not immediately. I had a neighbor who fell down a staircase in a split level run and her husband found her unconscious and she was found to have a subdural hematoma. Another neighbor had a teenage son who joined in a pickup basketball game as a freshman in college and woke up in ICU. He had fallen and hit his head and was knocked out. He was the state champion in tennis. People do fall even with no physical impairment especially when you add animals to the mix. Some people can’t handle the sight of blood. Being impaired by substances can cause people to react differently.

How could she be on the phone & got that many injuries? With that much blood? Seems beyond unlikely.

I read a reddit that made it pretty clear that this was most likely a freak accident of tripping over the dog, falling and hitting her head and then falling down into the basement.

Strange..just strange

Just watched this episode and it’s blowing my mind

Great analysis as always, thank you Dr. Grande!❤

It's such a strange case, the neighbor saw someone running away. Nobody broke in but the husband stated that he doesn't know if the back door was locked because a lot of times he lets the dogs out and he doesn't lock the back door. I just find it odd that she walked 10 ft away from where she had her migraine and just fell down the stairs. Maybe she found somebody in her house, they had a dispute in the kitchen, the man's ready to take her pants down, but she fought, and he threw her down the stairs or hit her in the head and threw her downstairs. That's the only way that I could explain it, and then she stood at the bottom of the stairs not wanting to go up there because she thought he was still up there.

Dr Grande, there are some green cactus shaped scratching posts for cats, just thought you might want to know if you have a pet kitty. I thought of you when I saw them. When I lived in the desert, there was a fabulous cactus and succulent nursery where one could buy all sorts of rare and strange plants. I loved going there. Going back to the video, I think it's so sad that the woman died all alone in that confused state.

The answer is obvious: it was the owl that Michael Peterson said caused Kathleen to have a bloody fall! 🙃

I can’t figure out what the neighbors meant by “heard a scary bark?” All dog barks sound the same to me??