I’m watching this for the second time around, and I’m only on hearing 5 and all I can say is, that mom is WAY more patient than I would be. Unbelievable the runaround she got from the court.
Yes. That’s important but, she needs to get an attorney. The amount of hearings these folks have is absurd. The level of redundancy is outrageous - it’s this never ending damn hamster wheel that won’t stop. An attorney would be able to get some final resolve QUICKLY. Both of these folks are enjoying this. They have to be. Totally not productive whatsoever.
Mom is beyond patient & reasonable. She had handled herself much better than I could! Mom NEEDS an attorney to end all this craziness & protect this poor kid from dad.
I want to give mom a huge pat on the back and then a big hug ! She was AMAZING! I would have been balling from frustration and swearing and be held in contempt!!! Rock on SUPERMOM❤❤❤
She's smart! In the April hearing, she told the court about how he embarrassed his son and harassed her, following her around, yelling at her and calling her names. The judge set it out a couple of weeks and told Dad until they had a hearing, he needed to stay away from the child's track meets. Mom finally had enough and decided to take a page out of Dad's book and play the delay game. So she deliberately didn't send him a copy of her declaration. You could tell by the way she said, "I didn't send it to him" that she deliberately didn't send it. It worked! The judge told him he needed to serve her with the info from his recovery program, too, and it was set for June. Mission accomplished! Track will be over and nobody will be harassed or embarrassed by this guy. It's a shame that it came to that, but good for her for giving everyone a taste of their own medicine and keeping her and the boy's lives peaceful. ❤
Exactly and the only thing an attorney would have helped him with his turning in that one document on time. You can have the best attorney ever but if you defying court orders and dialing drug test there is not a lot then can do to help that
Does this man not know that almost every word he said in the first 2 hearings proves that his ex's concerns are very valid? " I had him with me for 5 years and he was leading the league in office refusals"
Dad shouldn't have visitation until he can prove without a doubt fox six months clean and employed. Never a mention of child support. 🤔 This guy definitely gets deadbeat bad dad of the year award. Mom gets, mom of the year award.
This mom has the patience of a saint. Their child will benefit so much from the way she's behaved. It's a shame dad has ended up like this, but the child will always know they have a steady parent to lean on with their mom.
There’s no updates. These folks enjoy this. Clearly. Mom needs an attorney. The amount of hearings is outrageous. The only thing I can think is there’s a part of mom that’s actually enjoying this. 😵💫
Mom's doing a fine job by herself, attorneys are expensive and given that they're trying mediation instead of even hiring a GAL money is an issue for both. Attorneys often drag things out even more to wrack up those billable hours
He always talks a good game.... NEVER follows through. What a waste of time. Remember ADDICTS LIE! His former wife is doing everything to ensure her son has contact with his dad but he is not trying whatsoever.
Dad needs a wake up call. He’s ruining his relationship with his son because of drug use. And he’s ruining his own life. Hopefully Dad can get back on the road to sobriety.
And the judge ordering mediation is a waste of time. 1st surprise drug test, check and 2nd order a hair follicle and just get down to the nitty gritty!!
1. How old is the child? 2. Why is he allowed to continually put this child in danger! DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE ETC. WHY Is he not paying child support? Why is he not in contemp when not doing what the judge orders?
Middle-school age, so preteen/early teen. Magistrate Nelson had a habit of letting cases linger on, sometimes for years. Thank goodness he's retired now
I frankly believe that, everybody from the judges and the mother of the child have bent over backwards for this so-called father!!! He continues not to tell the truth and makes excuse after excuse!!!! He’ll never get clean this way secrets keep you sick!! My💔 heart breaks for this mother and child!!!!🙏🏻💕☺️
This mother seems like the most reasonable and patient woman I have seen to date in any case. While this pathetic father lies and attempts to manipulate without fail.
"I'm sorry... Whuuuuttt???" This fool knows he is still on drugs, he's wasting the court's time with his nonsense. I feel so sorry for the kid and the mom.
If he's not controlling his blood sugar right it'll turn into a disability when it takes his kidneys or leg. And I bet he's prioritizing drugs over medication. He's certainly prioritizing drugs over his kid
Dated a drug addict, I am sure partied and did drugs with him, then marries a drug addict, and then has a child with a drug addict......sorry, she is getting everything she deserves. The kid is getting screwed by having a drug addict Father.....but Mom....lol she deserves all the consequences of those actions, Don't feel sorry for her at all. Just the kid
Unreal! I’m totally flabbergasted by this Judge Karmy 🤦🏻♀️ She finally took visitation away AFTER the drug test results. It should have happened the second he admitted to using or when the son got a head concussion in his care not months later 😡 Thank goodness nothing more serious happened during his visits! 😮💨
He has been saying "they are starting weekly UAs next week for months" At the 2 2:43:49 he is higher than a kite. And he keeps pushing it back. We all know he is still using 😢 poor kid 2:59:08 My guy, if you can't get a ua at the treatment center, there are other places to go to get them . He wants to get to the end without the work. L
If I was Miss Steinway I would just simply cut my losses I would gather up my son and I would just shut down wouldn't allow the child to see this guy anymore and block him from all ways of contacting me I'd even move if I had to so that he couldn't find me and bother us anymore and move on with my life. This court has done nothing but entertain a meth addict all the way at the expense of this mother and her child and it's unconscionable shame on these courts. This guy should be put in jail for contempt on a minimum of 90 days with a threat that if he doesn't get that hair follicle test done Benny goes to jail it bothers me when judges put these orders out left and right and then when people don't comply with them the judges don't do anything about it there's no consequences shame on the judges shame on the courts
The court has failed this mom and jerked this case around for way too long. This deadbeat, drug addicted dad should have been removed and locked up after the 3rd or 4th hearing.
He never went to nor does he ever intend to go to a treatment facility ffs!!! It's so transparent how he's making up this fictional facility and all the complications... Really makes me question if the judge who claims to have been doing drug court for years actually did. "Not to say I don't believe you..." cmoooon ugh
"not to say i don't believe you" is him heading off the "but really I did" argument. It's a softer way of saying, "it doesn't matter if you did or didn't if I have no proof"
God, these cases need to SERIOUSLY stick to ONE JUDGE!!!! Bc as each judge goes by this case gets worse and worse especially after snail pace judge karmy it went further downhill to Judge Bashor 🤦🏻♀️ RETIRE MY DUDE!!! He seemed at times to be buddying up with the father!! 😤😡 Oooh I’m getting more & more aggravated with this guy he’s obviously too deep into his addiction he needs long in-care treatment. Instead of trying to appear as this sober loving, confused father he needs to admit again that he has no control over his addiction!! 🤦🏻♀️ Ugh his apologies are as empty as my wallet is right now!! 😤
Magistrate Nelson (the first judge) had a habit of letting cases linger on with no resolution for months & years sometimes. He retired last year I think. That's the first judge. All his cases got sent to other judges so it probably had to circulate for a bit before they got resolved. I do agree under most circumstances it's best to keep one judge per family but in this case that wasn't possible
Mom needed an attorney. She failed to retain counsel & what she got & went through w/ these multiple hearings is TYPICAL. Unfortunately, folks think that because they are “on the right side” of things & the more responsible one, things will go in their favor automatically. As we’ve seen time & time prior when folks represent themselves, THAT is rarely ever the case. This is not small claims folks - Get a damn LAWYER! 😵💫Had mom retained proper counsel, this shit would’ve been over in just a few hearings or so. At a certain point, SHE is also dragging this out by failing to retain proper counsel. She doesn’t know what she’s doing & is not communicating using the legalese necessary to get what she wants.
Dated a drug addict, I am sure partied and did drug with him, then marries a drug addict, and then has a child with a drug addict......sorry, she is getting everything she deserves
Karmy dragged this out for farrrr too long. She is always so wishy washy about stuff... same with Dashor. Jesus some do something to help this mother!!!
I gotta hand it to the mom.. she managed to keep it together for over a year…I would have already lost my shit!! And another thing, these things he needs to do but, doesn’t get them done… come on dude … it’s not rocket science!!!
1:16:10 only half way thru and I have no idea how this mother can keep this up seems the father is lying and manipulating the whole time one sob story after another. Pathetic con man imo
I remember this case and appreciate the updates. He still doesn’t seem to follow through with the court orders and sadly that makes me think he’s not clean. I’m glad the mother has trust with Kay to supervise the visits to allow him time with his son that I’m not really sure he truly deserves. The mother has been incredibly patient with this process and deserves praise for that. I’m glad her son at least has stability with her. Please keep us updated if there are any future court dates.
A lifetime of bad choices will do that. Have a feeling if it were a thin junkie mother, I don't think anyone would have an ounce of sympathy for her or calling her a frail old woman lol
The whole first year was a waste of time. The next year, the judge who was a drug court judge started holding dad accountable and making progress. I feel so sad for mom and son. You can see dad going downhill over time. That's sad too. I appreciate watching the hearings set up like this in one video with the case from start to finish. Thank you so much!
This was hard for me to watch! These soft a$$ commissioners and judges! They don't stick with what they order the father to do. I don't understand it! The hair follicle is a joke! This guys victim mentality is ridiculous.
I believe this case went south for the mother the second it hit the female Judge’s docket. Bc she kept continuing the case month after month while claiming to sympathize with the mother at the same time which is a complete joke!! 🙄 It’s like really Judge just force this freakin deadbeat father to do his Drug testing already!!! 🤦🏻♀️ Even the son got hurt in his care he got a concussion which the mother has been strenuously trying to prevent. The courts still didn’t take visitations away!! 😤 It’s like wow do u guys even gaf about the families that are suffering!!
& THIS is why folks like you aren’t Judges (& hopefully not employed in ANY legal capacity). Emotions don’t matter & caring about some random family & their level of “suffering” is irrelevant. Dad may be on drugs but he’s also smart enough to know what to do to manipulate. The “female Judge” actually explained why the rulings were what they were & why continuances were needed. Mom needed an attorney. She failed to retain counsel & what she got & went through w/ these multiple hearings is TYPICAL. Unfortunately, folks think that because they are “on the right side” of things & the more responsible one, things will go in their favor. As we’ve seen time & time prior, THAT is rarely ever the case. Had mom retained proper counsel, this shit would’ve been over in just a few hearings or so. At a certain point, SHE is also dragging this out by failing to retain proper counsel. She doesn’t know what she’s doing & is not communicating using the legalese necessary to get what she wants.
This is especially wild considering it was the two male judges at the start who allowed visitation to continue as normal and unsupervised despite the father's very clear and obvious drug use and attempts at gamesmanship of the court process. It was the woman judge who got the kids gloves off with him and suspended visitation until he started showing some progress, and who told him point blank to get his fucking head sorted. Instead, dad thought he'd be able to breeze his way through the courts by lying and throwing his hands up going "Oh gee, the dog age my UA, your honour!" and that is a problem separate from the rest of it. If this man is dumb he's dumb like a fox. He knows that regardless of what he does, he has SOME rights that are still going to be available to him in a court setting, and he can refuse to play by the rules, but the court quite literally cannot, and him taking full advantage of that fact effectively means that the family court is basically fighting with one hand tied behind their back, but that still isn't the fault of the FeMaLe judge being """soft""". It's so funny to me seeing people just outing themselves by going "I reckon it's the woman's fault!" When BEFORE said woman we had two male judges impose ZERO consequences while being about as scary as a sleeping kitten, with that first one giving stronger grannie vibes than any old lady could dream of mustering up, but yeah no, tell me how it's the dAmN wOmAn'S fault again mate. The judge you're talking shit about is literally the one judge to actually put her foot down and telling him that without a clean drug test he's not getting shit from her, and not getting shit in terms of custody, and it was only thanks to her and the mediator that he has no unsupervised access to his child if he's not providing clean tests. My advice would be this: instead of just blaming the person you WANT to blame (Sus, by the way) look carefully at the thing and go "whomst is actually the one doing something wrong here" and then practice applying some critical thinking, rather than embarrassing yourself in public by blaming the one person who actually said "Absolutely not" to the active addict having free access to their minor child. 😂
@@feralpixie7390 exactly!!! Folks can’t help but show their hand in instances like this. Total lack of critical thinking skills & zero objectivity. Says more about THEM than anything.
What are you talking about, the dad starts seeing consequences with the lady judge. He gets unsupervised visitation taken away and is only allowed supervised visitation.
The judge annoyed me saying “unfortunately methadone is one of the treatment methods we use”. Why unfortunately? It saved my life, and I am not and never have been altered a day in my life on it. I don’t get “high”, I don’t feel it. It enables me to live a normal, productive life. What’s unfortunate about that? It’s not a “replacement”. It’s a blocker as well. Educate yourself if you’re going to be running your mouth, dude.
Symptom management without treatment wouldn’t help anyone and would be unethical, and it’s POSSIBLE the judge has seen individuals get put on methadone and then just left to fend for themselves when it comes to treating the actual illness. I think this is a big issue in the Pacific NW where the addiction & mental health care systems are totally overwhelmed, and they’re giving out methadone with NO treatment access, basically as harm reduction. I think the judge was lamenting access.
I'm only at hearing where dad has positive hair test for MULTIPLE substances. Poor mom, she knew from the start, yet it took MONTHS & all summer of dad having week on & week off, just to get a test. Dad's reaction of to supervised visits, shows how he is minimizing & isn't going to change. Mom should have required a professional supervisor. Dad has $$ for his drugs but nothing else. I wouldn't trust his mom supervising. Dad is still making weird mouth movements, clearly still using. Mom demand a professional supervisor!!
I feel bad for all the family around this chaos. It’s important that rights are not taken without “his day in court”, but the child and mothers involved are continuing to take the fall out for the addict who isn’t accountable. Hopefully the plan is firm enough they don’t end up back every few months. But looking forward to the updates if they do.
Damn this guy looks and sounds older and older as the video goes on. He's aged a decade in a year. That's hard drug use. Reminds me of my uncle, who was the only person in my family to die in his 50s. Hard drug use did him in, by the time he quit the damage was done and he died in an assisted living center, the youngest guy there. It ages you so bad
Kudos to mom for not being petty and trying to keep their child safe but still fighting to maintain a a bond with dad even though he is a messy human being.
September 25, 2024: Hearing #6 the judge just schooled him when he asked the address. She gave the times the other judge gave! Brillian. This man has so many execuses that a month and some goes by without him being accountable. His delay tactics are so frustrating for an onlooker I can only imagine for her. She has so much patience. She should have full custody this man is not the brightest crayon in the box!
Dated a drug addict, I am sure partied and did drug with him, then marries a drug addict, and then has a child with a drug addict......sorry, she is getting everything she deserves. The kid is getting screwed by having a drug addict Father.....but Mom....lol she deserves all the consequences of those actions, Don't feel sorry for her at all. Just the kid
@@platedlizard His actions are his own actions.....people love to blame others (you are one of them), but everyone's actions have consequences. You lay down with a drug addict and have kids with them, then expect bad consequences. I don't feel sorry for her. Bad actions, you usually get bad consequences. And....according to the history, he did drugs before the met, while they were together......her words. I didn't say anything about him....we all know he is terrible. I hit to close to home for you? lol
Mom was being very responsible at the beginning. Wanted drug test and agreed to pay if clean. The modification she wanted was to standard parenting time (every other weekend).
To see him getting thinner and thinner with each hearing that goes by speaks volumes about what's going on in his life. (Based on other factors along with the weightloss, I'm not saying just because someone looses weight that means they'r using) his inability to hold a job, and to show up when he is supposed is just a couple clues I've seen.
36:05 wasn’t the guy in the first screen (in orange) doing the same things? Put out over and over plus a big kurfuffle about the number of drug testing panels he kept avoiding? Something about meth being legal in the state over? Geez, what’s in the water there? PS- bet the dentures this guy should be wearing, are older than Tiffany!
Yeah that's another case in this court And no, meth is not legal here, it was just decriminalized for a bit if you're a user. It still couldn't be sold or consumed when driving or caring for a child.
Tbf Jewel, Oregon can be rough to get to, especially during winter. It's in the Coastal Range and the snow in western Oregon is basically ice. That said that's only a few months of the year, most days in winter aren't snowy even in Jewel, and ODOT isn't bad at maintaining roads. The fact he's still late even on non-snowy days means it's something else though. Edit: that said Vernonia isn't that far? 45 minutes away, is he taking the back route or something?
Right, definitely, but that’s why we all just leave 30 minutes early in the winter. He’s only chronically 8 minutes late, and kids need to be dropped off like 10 minutes before the bell, so leaving early would fix it, and he knows it, he’s just too sick to do it.
When people join a Zoom call for a court case it's not really any different than sitting in the public gallery in a courtroom. The judges in this courtroom require everyone to stay muted until it's time for their turn but they don't require to turn off their cameras. Most of the people choose to turn their cameras off anyway because they don't want to be on screen but not everyone chooses to or knows how to turn their cameras off and some people don't seem to care. So, basically, they are no different than anyone else sitting in the audience of the courtroom waiting for their turn for their hearing.
Replay crew today. I doubt this guy can stay clean, I know addiction is a hard issue to deal with, but this guy is so fried he can’t help himself to move forward. I feel bad for their son.
Who is smoking on camera? Rude. I do not think he should even be atound those kids if using drugs that could be fatal. UA's are not the same as hair follicles! Why aren't the observers kicked off for violating court orders? If evicted he has no home for his child. He is just basically a jerk who wants things his way. He just does not follow orders. You forget due to drugs.
Okay sooo your GFs son is influencing your son and is a bad influence on ur son. HELLO time to find another GF cause I'm sure she isn't gonna disown him! And blaming child for your shortcomings is wrong!
