That's a great way of putting it. A less flattering way I've seen it is deadmau5 being "the Donald Trump of EDM." He definitely used Twitter in a similar way and got into so much shit for it over the years. They'd both benefit if they learned when to shut up or articulate their points better. I'm probably gonna get so much hate for drawing this parallel, but I think it's hilarious.
Dude that Veldt vocals being revealed in real time to Deadmau5 and it blowing him away is like a historical video. That is crazy AF to catch live and see the actual reaction of Deadmau5 for the first time! Put it in a museum!
as a famous hardstyle track said years ago, "djs used to be weird people who liked music In a weird way, back in the day you needed to be a nerd to be a dj''. Joel might not claim to be a Dj but his performer, performance and excitement tells me how excited he is about electronic music all these years later.@@DaytonTurnerVoxter
@@JayCryptik Another fun one is that Joel helped make FL Studio into what it is today. He was a prominent user in their extremely early days and would frequent the forum and explain how he used features they had in the program in ways they didn't intend those features to be used and showcased the cool outcomes. Eventually he gained attention from image-line and would just end up asking them to implement features into the next update to streamline the process so users wouldn't have to replicate his steps. I believe image-line eventually flew him out and employed him for a couple years to help them shape what FL Studio would become. He goes in depth on all of it on an episode of the Shawn Ryan Show. It's a 4 hour long episode and it's awesome to listen to if you've got the time to set aside.
honesty or arrogance. it always baffles me how some ppl just decide do meatride some guy on the net or in the music industry and just ignores bad behavior, tactics and pathetic views.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Deadmau5 is, without a doubt a controversial dude. I never said I stand with EVERYTHING that he has said or done but in a world where every artist or celeb you see has the EXACT SAME takes on pretty much the whole EDM scene, it shows that deadmau5 can be critical and "real" about his own industry. I also feel like he talks to the chat just like he talks to friends not to just some fans on a livestream wich is a mimic I really enjoy. If people didn't like how mau5 behaves then they wouldn't follow him! People are free to stop watching...
I didn't know it was a requirement of big festivals. I think the time spent producing and mixing whatever ends up being the set is the magic. They wouldn't be as big as they are If they couldn't, it's a shame the festivals have that rule.
"Beeing a good DJ" today what does it mean really? I mean, the only people with skills today are people like James Hype, otherwise is just about crowd control and connection with your fanbase, since CDJS and automatic beatmatching appeared being technical has no meaning anymore. Anyone can be a DJ today, an average dj of course. People doesnt care either. They are just ignorant masses who just want to party and have a good time, they don't know their stuff anymore, they dont buy records and stuff.... They are just armband collectors 4 or 5 times a year, theres no club culture like 20 or 30 years ago.
@@gymroskabachulskichorizins8813 jame hype? And then you talk about records? Have you ever seen james hype playing records? He does the same type of 'skills' over and over again? And ive seen him live and tons of videos. I still got to see James Hype playing records, then we talk again about skills.
Real music comes naturally from the desire to make you happy. When I create, I think about the moments when the listener will feel what I feel, I never know what will come out, first I create music and then I look for words. Good Music Doesn't Need Words
Now let's flip this on it's head. sometimes creating real music is like pulling teeth and comes from the desire to express the pain that you feel, regardless of what the audience thinks. First I start with a poem and a title, and I meticulously work my way back to a melody. Sometimes in order to express a precise message it requires words. I think this still checks out. I don't think it's good to be absolutist in the creative process.
@@neoconnor4395 yeah, ive heard mixed things about it. Ied like to see him go deep into his production tricks and techniques and the whys of what he does. Esp reverb placement and movement, limiter settings, gating, etc
That daft punk meeting story is absolutely hilarious 15:21. Oops, Deadmau5 just walks in without their helmets on... waves... grabs a beer.... leaves(?)... pfffff god
Hey man, just wanted to let you know. There’s been 2 artists that’s changed my life. First, Faithless as a kid opened my mind to electronic music & the second was you, it was you man… Thank you.
There’s a huge difference between pre recorded and pre planned set. Pre recorded is you literally record the whole set and just click play. Pre planned is when you have songs set with cues and know when to transition. Your visual team also assigns lights for every instance of the show.
"Twiddle filter knobs and clap" lmao. This is exactly what it is. It's funny how few people realize DJs dont really do much on stage. Some DJs do more, but a lot of the time they're just pressing play and fiddling with knobs. Even if someone is actually mixing, it's fuckin easy to mix two songs together! Especially nowadays with the technology that shows you waveforms and will even auto sync the tracks. And I guess it doesn't really matter, if someone produces their own music then at least they did that. It's not a performable type of music and it was made in a computer so it can't be recreated live in real time like an acoustic band. So fuck it, let's just enjoy the songs on a loud sound system with dope visuals in a huge crowd of hyped up people...and not worry about the guy on stage waving his arms around who isn't doing much lol.
Omg i love that you said you only play your songs!! I can't stand that everyone plays other people's hits ALL THE TIME!! THANK YOU for sticking to your own!! Man if I gotta hear Titanium one more time!!! Ughhh!!!
dead" Ableton so bad ... btw watch me only ever using that while using it in the same way you would use FL studio with multi tracks ... also, here's Steve, say hi Steve"mau5
@@zf-xi6ds Same. It doesn't matter. If you're not signed then you don't have to worry about the differences between Ableton and FL. Or any other DAW. Plenty of people who aren't DeadMau5 use FL Studio.
I played EDC in 2023 and did the whole thing live. It was not pre-recorded and all the visuals and lasers were also played live by a visuals team. FWIW.
When I didnt have my Subscription active to Studio One I downloaded Reaper and Cakewalk to see how I liked them. Personally I prefer Cakewalk over Reaper. The UI for Cakewalk is much better designed and the compatibility with Plugins is just as solid as Studio One. Honestly its just all what you are comfortable with.
@ Deadmau5 will always be a legend. Anything that comes out of the mans mouth and brain is holy and hilarious. I appreciate his genuine self. Just wish he’d cut back on the drags.
When he says pre recorded set I don't think they're actually pre-recorded but the dj already has their set list and knows exactly where they're going to mix in and everything for a festival although I'm sure there are djs who do actually record and press play and just mess with the filter knobs/channel effects.
Doesn't matter if you can see the waveforms. The DJ can make unpredictable changes including mistakes. If there is perfect sync at all times, chances are that both visuals and sound are prepared earlier. Which is fine. Just pretending to mix when you aren't mixing is cringe.
@@spiritlevelstudios seeing waveforms in the production booth is useful for exactly that, unpredictability. If the DJ isn't pretaped, and they play a song that doesn't have a visual package, the visual engineers can see where the peaks and dips are in a song by looking at the wave form of what is playing, and loaded to other players. Then they can manually control those visual scenes until the next song with visuals. It was called ShowControl but Pioneer has their own version built in now I believe. Edit: Also, a high percentage of these festival performances are pretaped. Many, many. And they pretend to mix. I've watched the production crew freak out over losing a pretaped set and the DJ was too wasted to actually DJ. A very high profile, Vegas type DJ.
on the Daw Part that's soo true to me... I could not get the hang of FL no matter what I do (even as a veteran). So Ableton, was my saving grace. logic, bitwig and even pro tools I can start something and not be lost.
It’s weird that he says that about reaper because that was the first daw I started with, and I found it way easier for what I wanted to do which was just live recording. It did make the switch to ableton easier. FL feels like a whole different beast compared to the two. I’ve honestly had the hardest time picking that one up because the work flow and ui is just so strange. I could see how if you started on fl and only used that you would have a hard time switching to any other daw.
FL seems really similar to Ableton. I've always used FL, but if I had to I'm sure I could jump ship to Ableton, Logic or Cubase fairly quickly. Reason on the other hand seems like a steep learning curve if you maintain the rack view.
I believe he mentioned Reason, not Reaper, which is a much later creation. Reaper is excellent, and much better suited for audio recording than Ableton or FL. The latter ones are more clip/pattern focused.
I Loved this & lots of gems & nuggets in these 2hours to learn from! .Now on the topic of DJing I come from Turntablism & Drum & Bass Jungle in that respect.... I applaud him for keeping it real & telling people how some of the biggest POP EDM level Festival show performances can at times be prerecorded & how look out for them! very cool & authentic of him... But for clarities sake to ""Performers, signer, or DJs'" if your not mixing live layers of music or singing out of you microphone as a singer & instead playing back a fully prerecorded set & miming like your doing a performance or singing or & just twisting a filter knob & pretending your mixing. Its like any average joe linking up there iPhone to big Bluetooth speaker system playing with EQ settings for the entire mix on their iphone! or in singers case joe is holding a disconnected Microphone & miming like he's singing.... > whether you tricked somebody or NOT ...you have to be performing LIVE for it to be an actual LIVE performance! If you cant f@*k up your MIX cause its all prerecorded Your not a Live performer / "Not a Real DJ" Full Stop! End of Discussion! That said You Might still be An amazing Producer! However you definitely are not a DJ or live performance Artist.
Gotta admit sometimes I lose respect for him, then he wins me back with his honesty almost instantly .. pre recorded sets .. never going to visit a show though
there is constantly improving software that can sync visuals to music without it having to be prerecorded.....that being said, whatever makes people happy man
hes like half right, as an FL nerd who never left, hes dead right that i cant use any other daw cause its too weird. Ive used pro tools, logic, and ableton and just cant switch. BUTTTT that said i dont need to, i track vocals, i create instrumentals, gain stage, master, and i use fl 11 vs ableton and logic where id be shit. Fl you can lay out tracks and process them, how can't you output something just as good? hes an elitist on certain stuff but that can also be cause the internet was like that back when he recorded some of these
I used everything and ended up being most productive in Reaper. It just makes sense to me. That said FL studio is my main daw because it's second to none with beat crafting. I find FL studio to be weird compared to other DAWs. If I leave FL studio for a few months and work in reaper and go back I'm always passed for not being able to find something I need lol. Yeah he's wrong about FL. You can fully master in that bitch if you want. It's about what qork flow works for you.
Dawg i feel like the mixes sound better in Reaper... When i send my stems from Fruity Loops to Reaper the compression/reverb bus i got going on sounds better
I always assumed sets were prerecorded 😅 Furthermore, almost every festival I’ve been to, the SPL(chest pounding bass) of each set has gotten exponentially higher until the headliner. Its like the opening acts can only play their sets so loud. Which I guess makes sense. If you’re the headliner you def want to be the loudest at the festival
Joels take on pre-recorded sets is so based. Some purists insists DJ-ing is about the method, but it's really about the music being played out of the PA, regardless of method. My instincts also cringe from the notion of it not being a "true" performance, but I need to keep reminding myself that I'm not there to judge some arbitrary skill of smooth transitions between tracks, but to hear good music and pre-recording doesn't impeed that experience.
he is literally the most overrated "djs" in the industry. he has like 2 hits in his entire career. he reuses loops and samples but is angry when someone does the same shit.
Deadmau5: Don’t be pretentious. Just put the time in. Get it done. Make the song and move the fuck on. Also Deadmau5: **acts as pretentious as humanly possible**
4:40 to his point, when I wanted to learn a free DAW I went with reaper after using fl studio for 8 years and struggling to switch. After reaper, working with pro tools and ableton which the rest of my friends use has been MUCH easier
It also depends what you consider a "pre-recorded set." I guarantee most big name DJs playing at a big name festival will have at least some parts of their set planned. Does playing easy to mix mash-ups you've produced also count as a "pre-recorded set?" Because then basically everyone is guilty. I agree with deadmau5's main points, but he makes it sound like it's "literally everyone" and that their entire set is pre-recorded. I'd be surprised if it was more than 50%.
this is exactly what I was saying. there are some very talented VJs that work in the industry and it would be insane if they didn't work at the big festivals. not to mention the fact that there's actual organizers and Festival managers that say they've never seen a pre-recorded set and that they have seen the visual artists working live. I'll go listen to someone else for my music industry advice. and I don't know if it's just me but I also just don't like Deadmau5 attitude. he's always kind of had a cringey egotistical vibe about him
on another note I actually have a good friend that's investing thousands into visual lighting and I've seen and worked with things like resolume and xlights, and those programs can actually detect the tempo of other DJ programs and hardware and automatically match your lighting rhythm to the tempo of the song that's being played.
I gotta say, Ableton pisses me the hell off sometimes. It’s easy to use for the most part, but I always run into problems with automation. You can automate audio tracks all day long no problem, but with MIDI tracks, sometimes you can, sometimes you can’t and I really don’t understand why. I suppose you could just bounce it to audio and then automate it, but then you have a new track taking up more space and it’s a pain in the ass trying to redo something when you’ve bounced it to audio already. I was trying to do something recently where I had a synth lead, wanted to add some variation to the texture, so I duplicated it, changed the second one, tried to automate them so one would fade out as the other fades in, but as I listened to it back, the automation just magically went flat. And now I can’t automate that track anymore and annoying things like this really get in the way of creativity.
ah yes we have to listen to a guy who BUYS 90% of his soundbites, samples, loops, drum kits from the net :) youre a clown. i make music for 10+ years and fl studio is the best tool to make music. cubase, reaper, logic, garage band are too primitive these days. so what reaper is free if its so empty and unintuitive. fl studio has stocks sounds, amazing stock plugins, its intuitive, easy to learn. you know 0 about music you think you know bcuz you follow this clown@@iRelevant.47.system.boycott
