Dealing with Contamination 

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Change dat name to shroomhead den bruh

@@tamie341 this lol!

First time and trichoderma is fucking me. Sad days, boys. Sad days.

@@JeffarryLounder MGP TrichEVICT by DrMyc might help

I'm glad to see you have such passion in mycology, I wish you the best on your journey 🙏🍄

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Uncle roger 😂

You facked up! 🤣

I know right!😂

Too funny!

I had to rewind Uncle Roger 3 times!!

Same 😂😂😂

Good tip, haven't heard that one before

Going to try that

Does any uv light work?

You mean black light ?

@@phuckyoutube5927 black light = Ultra violet light

By FAR the best. Really makes it very easy and simple and adds just the right amount of humor to it all

Big facts

@@arkfoodle. That’s a Penicillium species on bread and cheese. Trichoderma is a common soil fungus though so it’s spores are pretty much everywhere and right at home in mushroom substrate.

Good tip. Me and a friend are mid journey now and he has asthma. Knowing this makes me sure I should deal with the contaminants.

what about if your fruiting tub is contaminated with trich? can i take a spore print of the mushrooms or should i not bother? can i reuse the trich tub (after thoroughly cleaning it with alcohol)?

i Often leave 1-2 plates right undernearth my TV to collect dust and contams just to see whats out there!

My 9th grade science teacher showed us how to do agar plates, these huge ones the size of dixie plates, then pour our own and culture them from our right hand and our foot of choice. that was neat to see.

Good idea as some times it’s hard to tell iv found genetics play a big part well for smell anyway as I now come to relise that if they smell almost like cucumbers there find I’d like really sour like Red Wine big no no But a lot of people see the tiniest bit of Blue and they think on No I’m fucked a lot of its bruising it’s the nasty wet Rot ect that starts off that horrible Green mild Tri, I Mainly go off smell I mean I Inject with as less MSS as Possible if 1kg of Millet 2/3cc Spores go along way! People think more = Quicker no it will take longer if anything along as your Sterile & your Spawn is Decent no Shitty smell “it can smell a tad odd like cucumbers as I mentioned! & I generally buy my Sub in bulk as I do not have a PC! Once I have that Bye bye Contam as I have found a Tek that works and Prefected it I mean anything can happen with fungi but give it as best start as poss u should have no issue/Check regularly but not to much Wear a Mask/Gloves when moving it around ect or fanning the Tub im a rookie still on my 4th Tub & Since my 2nd iv had nothing but Big juicy Flushes! As a Good friend who’s been doing mycology a long time said Find a Tek that Works Best & Easy for you then Prefect it! It’s when u deviate from other tek to try another will all get complicated u will most likely get stressed out and think this isn’t the hobby for me, Just have Patience 5/6 weeks is not that long u will be harvesting by the 6th week maybe the 4th depending on genetics again. ☮️🍄💙

@@dakotacommissaris2210 56 qt I believe

Yo can I ask what strains you used.

Also for a 56qt tub what was the weight of your grain spawn to sub

It’s one of the only actual disinfects for the air I know of. It smelling nice is just a plus.

@@CornPopsDood You do not want to breathe in this stuff. Follow the directions on the can. You still need to air out the room. Personnally I would spray it in my ac system and then proceed in 30 mins after you turn off the system for the house.

Any kind of alcohol may harm your mycelium roughly, both Gentamicin and Chloramphenicol can be obtained on waterbased solutions. Thanks for this information

Interesting idea, I’d be worried about the bacteria that’s healthy for the mycelium getting killed off along with everything else.

@@cosmefulanito831 It is true that alcohols in general are harmful to microorganisms, fungi included, but the thing is the concentration plays the huge role here. For the most powerful alcohols, which are ethanol and propanol, the concentration of 40 degree and lower is significantly weaker than the higher concentration of the same alcohol. So finding a pure, concentrated source of antibiotics is needed. I can say 100 ml of product for 1 litter of agar is in the safe zone.

@@jonathanharris2570 As far as I know, magic mushroom does not need to live with any other bacterium or fungus. There may be a type of bacterium that is healthy for the mushroom but people don't know about them yet. I am not a spore or liquid culture provider so I don't know if they mix some other microorganisms into the culture or not, but from many videos of Philly, you can see he tried to get the purest piece of mycelium before growing it on the agar. If there was any other thing in there, it would appear on the agar after several days, and he always select the clean cultures and seems like doesn't have any problem growing them. So don't worry.

Just dont drop bacteria in your agar ;)

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You’re not alone. The days of cow fields and only tubs are long gone.

Most spore syringes are gonna have some contamination. Just part of the game my friend. My advice to you if tonspawn your syringes to agar THEN transferring clean agar to your grain jars. The more agar you inoculate, the greater your chances for success. My first grow I poured and inoculated 11 cups, and only needed 1 to start my first flush. The others are out away as back up in case my jars get contamination. Like he said in the video, the more you increase your odds, the better. You are playing a game where microscopic organisms are involved, organisms you cannot see or detect normally so its honestly all part of the game I wouldn't blame your source, although I'd have no way of knowing if they are legit or not but contams are normal with spore syringes.

Lol sorry only read the first half of your comment didn't see you mentioned agar

@@sheeeitmayn4384 do you just spray the multi spore syringe to the agar ? Or do you have to do anything first ? Thanks.

I did g2g and got the same grey mold contam in either of my jars. Luckily mycelium seems to be kicking its ass right now, but we'll see.

@@sheeeitmayn4384 Well said... That's why PF Tek is so perfect for using spore syringes directly into jars. They are tiny jars. If you do enough of them, you will get some winners while expecting some contaminated ones. In that small size jar, contams will hide but be overtaken remaining hidden when the jar is quickly colonized (because of the massive amount of spores). The PF cake can fruit multiple times without you ever even knowing of the hidden contamination. The problems manifest when you try that on a larger scale or use that grain to innoculate more jars. Anything larger than PF Tek requires learning some agar to make sure you are starting with clean mycelium. Or, you are relying on luck for success. No Pour Method. (look it up on Shroomery) I found that in the beginning with agar, you can start out doing a "no pour method" with the screw-on PP food containers (small size Tasty Plates?), from the grocery store. They work great. I pour unsterilized agar into them, close them up loosely, then pressure cook them. They hold up well in the PC, and then you don't have to worry about contamination happening during the pouring process (because they are already poured). Watch out, the lids must also be PP-5 plastic or they WILL melt in the PC. I resorted to this method after buying contaminated disposable plates from Amazon. You get full control over the sterilization process. Just my .02

i think you meant to say you have blue oyster spores you used

@@dylanohlhauser1026 I said BO to make it short but yes ;) Hahaha, thank you! Update: First shoebox incubating

That's awesome. I wish you the best on your journey 🙏🍄

Its all part of the process

Could you tell us what kind of uv lamp you got? And why you didn't get another type? I was thinking something like that would help me in the contamination-soaked town I live in.

Case with what friend? Mr Green has appeared.

It helps! 🙏

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Exactly the same, I'm gathering all the info and list of equipment I think would be best and this channel is invaluable. Been doing so much research to make sure I get things right and don't end up wasting a shit load of money on equipment that's not suitable

@@marcusjay8103 are you in the US bro? I made like an Amazon list of stuff I will need. Most expensive is the pressure cooker but can get that for about 100 bucks

@@Andre-oc7gg Easy brother, appreciate the reply. I'm in the UK sadly and pressure cookers are through the roof. I plan to be doing unicorn bags then spawning to bulk CVG. I plan on setting up a grow tent with 2x 4 tier racks full of trays (I plan on spreading the love 😉) and also plan on setting up a 1mx1m grow tent strictly for inoculation and hopefully agar work. Plan on having my laminar cabinet in there along with a genuine Hepa filter air purifier I plan on running for an hour before doing any work in there... First doing a 70% ISO wipe down of absolutely everything,then have the air purifier running and the laminar cabinet. I've found an awesome guy on etsy who sells pre-sterilised grain bags. We've become good friends and he's going to actually help me build my laminar cabinet and while saving to put that whole tent together he's offered to sterilise grain for me for free, I just have to buy ingredients and pay for shipping and he's happy to do me 10-12 bags of millet at a time and ship them to me, even happy to inoculate them as he also sells cultures and is happy for me to send him cultures to use for me. Couldn't ask for a nicer guy to mentor me, he's been growing for over 15yrs and had thousands of positive reviews on the products he sells so he definitely knows what he's doing. I'm also in the process of learning to cook up DMT as well to make Vape carts and changa... I'm really eager to try Micro-dosing to see if I can cut down or get off the meds I've been on for years. I think the hardest part is going to be setting up the 'clean room' tent... As I don't think I'll have too many issues once I get the inoculated bags back and they colonise, from what I've heard and read if you can get to that stage and spread to bulk in the cleanest environment you can, the mycelium is pretty hardy and stable once established so while I'm working on saving up for a decent pressure cooker and building my flow cabinet I have access to ready to use grain so I can get growing ASAP and slowly build the set up how I want it. I have a 246sqft room that thankfully is hard floored and will be perfect to set up a large tent for my fruiting chamber and then a small tent as my 'clean room'. Been advised to shave, shower wear a tyvek suit and mask straight out the shower when doing anything like agar work or working with open bags. Also gonna be starting with what's considered some of the easiest and most forgiving strains like GT's and B+ but would also like to try and grow some medicinal strains and not just psychoactive strains (though TBH that's obviously why I'm doing it! I absolutely can't stand the taste of mushrooms 😂). What kinda strains are you looking at growing yourself and what set up are you planning? Bulk substrate? , BRF cakes? Would be cool to keep in contact and see how our plans play out and our journey to shroom-success. Much love and peace brother! Namaste 🙏

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZmW5os5Lmvs.html This is the same kinda size pressure cooker I'd like, but over here I'm looking at £300+ ($400-ish) plus a lot of them have £70-100 delivery as they are from the USA, then I have 20% import tax on top of that 😑 Would be nice to be able to sell ready to use grow kits and at least recoup a little bit of the expense. If you've found any really decent products my man then please, drop us a link. Always open to looking at alternatives to what ibee been looking at

Agree. I’m a rookie and PGT has been the best source of clear, concise instruction. 👍

Very interesting sounds like a problem my friend had . This is a science project clean is the only way for real success..... We can do this PGT! ty hugs ..........

Had the same results from my compost pile as well. Nature proving she’s the best gardener of us all.

Hey question for anyone, if you don’t have any spore growth in a jar, do you have to throw it out?

@@isaactheonly304 I just ran across this issue. But there Vermiculite jars that I bought. So I had 8 of them that didn't take. I figured I didn't shake the spores up good enough. So I've experimented and I inoc them again. Days ago so I can't give you any results. But if it was Grain jars I would of just thrown it out. But you also want to make sure you waited long enough. Hope this helps.

I had a bag that didn’t take off so I tried again and it’s going smoothly so far no contamination

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Fungus compete with each other. It would very likely fail if they were trying to grow in the same container. That competition is one main reason everything needs to be kept separate.

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