Dear Rudy: I WON the BLACK LOTUS in a REPACK on EBAY 

Rudy is the scammer here. Just to make a video he makes a story up. “ I don’t know nothing about magic. But I don’t have any other cards from back in the day “ to check to see if it’s real. Rudy goes on the fly with these fake letters just to make a video.

"Don't buy anything that says repack or mystery!" WOTC: Mystery Boosters

Rudy: *has multiple graded black lotus from various sets* Also Rudy: One day I'll be able to afford a second phone, maybe even a flashlight

New rule, unless you're willing to sell a $30,000 item for $10 don't assume anyone else will either.

I bought a repack for $10 and it had 3 RR charizards, one Reshiram and Charizard also RR and 4 Alpha Black Lotus’s, and here I though these were a scam

Rudy thanks you, Tavis and Chang I have become the authenticator for a local collectible toys and games shop. Thank you for the years of wisdom and insight. Your knowledge is invaluable.

I remember back in the day my cousins dad had a black lotus and multiple time walks. He introduced us to the game. We didn't have anything close to them. We started playing around Icee Age. He loved to play his blue control deck with control magic, icy manipulator, prodigal sorcerer/zuran spell caster with a Leviathon. I mainly used a red burn deck, and his dad loved to use green with Gaeas Liege. I know my old cards weren't worth nearly anything compared to his, but I wish I had them back just for the nostalgia

My former LGS, 15 years ago, used to sell repacks, they guaranteed 1 rare but it was not uncommon to get more than one, but they only contained bulk garbage, they never stated anything that would make you think there was any value in them. Everyone knew they are garbage. They were pretty cheap and we loved them because they contained cards from Revised to current sets, and made for very interesting draft and sealed events. Stuff like that is the only reason to buy them repacks. You will not get your moneys worth in products but it might not be a bad way to have some random fun some weekend with your friends.

That's it I am starting my own repack thing! That's right!! Let's get supper crazy!! Label everything I sell repack even if its one card that you know what it is!

The biggest thing that jumped out to me is the lack of yellowing in the text box.

I've been reporting repacks under incorrect condition, as they are selling them as new. eBay's definition of "New" includes being unopened as a requirement. Even if nothing happens right now, enough users flooding eBay with reports over this stuff could annoy them enough to change their policy.

I sell repacks too. $1 per pack, my listing guarantees you will not get anything good. Guaranteed bulk and junk rates. Grand prize is a foil Rest In Peace 1 in 42 packs.

I can't emphasize it enough. Alpha / Beta / Revised commons are still pennies. Buy a reference set of each color. Pennies can save you thousands.

"i wOn a BlaKc lOtuS fRoM a RePpack Rudyyyy" Sure you did Timmy. Sure you did.

Love the R/WSB clock on the shelf Rudy!

Wow! What a lucky sob! I’m about to buy some right now! Haven’t watched the video, but the title says it all.

Dig it. Good vid. Keep the hints on eyeballing it coming.

There is one way that makes repacks cool in my oppinion. A store in Brazil sells repacks not as a form of gambling, but as draft practice material. You can buy 65 packs for less than a deckbuilder's toolkit price, and tell you upfront the cards contained are not valuable; Each pack wouldn't cost 25 US cents. The store gets rid of their bulk commons, uncommons and rares, and pretty much provides the buyer with a bunch of chãos draft experiences, as well as a nice collection. I bought a couple lots of that for fun, and the cards contained were actually pretty damn awesome for the most part; I don't regret buying it. And the store was not scamming anyone. That's the key here. Why scam timmies with counterfeit cards when with a little adjustment you can profit in a honest way? I bet that making said counterfeits is a whole lot more effort than just selling bulk stuff for chaos draft, a lot more cost to start up, and most people wouldn't fall for it anyways. So what's the point?

Me and my girlfriend picked up some free cards one of our LGS has out in a box for people to take. We both randomly picked a pile each before buying some singles and sleeves. Months down the line we were building decks and I came across two fake Fetch Lands some joker (or a Timmy?) had put in there 😂

This is why I love this channel and Rudy in general. For those who say he’s a scum bag and bad for the game..... yet he’s showing you exactly how not to get scammed and what to look for in a real magic card I would say that’s the exact opposite of a scumbag and someone who is extremely authentic and good business man If you want authentic magic black lotus Rudy is the best person to go to. Keep up the great work floppy tacos.deck

Thanks Rudy for expanding my knowledge!

I was a struggling HVAC mechanic and I always said everything would be great once I got that third arm. Sure enough, didn't score a black lotus but I won my third arm in a repack. So they are absolutely the truth!!!

the only good mystery packs. are those Choas Draft Packs ;) 6 packs for 20 bucks, just fun !

Chinese counterfeiters studying this video REAL hard lol

Rudy was telling us something from the background (wall street bets, Dimond hands baby!)

When the three were grouped together, the fake one's text background was just so much whiter than the real ones, which were a brownish white.

It's a lot like counterfeit money/currency. I worked for a bank in the 90s and the first way I'd know that I had a counterfeit in a stack of bills was the feel of the 'paper' as I was counting. It felt wrong. It felt slick, like paper, which currency is not (it's mostly cotton like the denim in your jeans). It may look perfect, but it won't feel right. Here with the Lotus, the artwork was great, but the paper was wrong, the ink was wrong, so it feels wrong and shines wrong. Know the real by feel and sight, and it will be much easier to spot the fakes. You don't study counterfeits in order to identify counterfeits. You study the real thing and get to know it very well. Great video and great advice.

I don't mind the dollar (australian dollar) re-packs from a game store we have over here, you never get anything amazing but you get some interesting stuff that slots nicely into EDH decks or inspires new ones, plus it scratches that open a few boosters itch for a very low price

0:00 - 6:36 (repacks are scams) 6:37 video starts

Rudy I appreciate your channel. With success comes haters. I have learned alot from your videos about what kind of collector I am. I used to be a player but freinds ripped me off and now I just collect by myself. I am thinking of starting my own mtg RU-vid channel but it won't be pack or box openings. Just mtg current info on what's going in the market and my opinion based off all of the mtg you tube videos including yours.

Good on you, Rudy. You seem a real decent sort of fellow.

“Hey, you don’t look like a sucker, WHY DO YOU STILL BUY THIS CRAP!” - Professor, The

I haven’t played Magic since 1997 ( maybe 1998?). I fell out of it right around the time Alliances came out. I went to college and did the whole BSB to MBA thing, and now work in finance. FWIW, Rudy is solid. I disagree on some aspects, but that’s normal. His philosophy on investment is legit.

I really don't get why making counterfeits of Magic cards is so hard. The texture, the coloring the shine... I mean, Garfield in 1993 probably wasn't investing a lot into precautions preventing that. I assume he just used a regular printing contract with a regular press, regular paper and regular colors. He wasn't expecting people to buy more than a starter and 3 booster packs, so he sure as hell wouldn't expect someone to professionaly reprint cards.

i've gotten fake cards from tcgplayer before: they took care of everything with little to no hassle... but i bought a 10 dollar jewler's loop because of it. my favorite was a fake spellskite that i paid 5 bucks for

Nice WSB clock, warms my heart.

Rudy, what do you think of booster box breaks? It's where you pick a color or card type for x amount and you get all the cards opened from that booster box of what you picked. It's opened live but it just seems like another way to hose people somehow.

Can we see a video on all the product released in 2019 thus far? For perspective and wallet fatigue discussion.

Rudys Video Intros went from exciting to straight up jumpscare really quick

Love the D2 boxes on the top left.

Beside the other flaws on the fake, there only appears to be 2 alignment marks on the bottom, and it looks like the ink bled through them.

You did a post about repacks just the other day when someone sent in packs where the end was glued back together.

Rudy, any fascinating obvious misprints worth sharing? I find it fascinating in printed money when it makes it into circulation, does it happen much in magic cards to your knowledge?

One of the most noticeable things on the fake for me was the color of the text in text box and it was also missing the brown tone to the text box.

The middle one has a darker shade I believe bit I can be full of myself at some times

I saw this same auction whwn i was looking for a twister a few days ago

Hey Rudy, could you please make a video that explains how mtg prices started and who comes up with the pricing?

“Do not buy anything with the word mystery” Me who just bought a box of mystery booster: 😳

Please do a video on your view of final fantasy CG and other card games from a collector, player, investment perspective.

The future: Magic cards determined worthless. Value plummets millions. Rudy: *Oh god. Oh god no*

I got a timetwister from collectors edition in a repack off ebay. it was only worth 35 bucks at the time though.

I noticed off the bat when your brought out the others the text box is more white.

Plot twist, the polished, shiny cards are the real ones.

Rudy, great video! Enjoy your Monday! 💯🙏🙌

Like the modern horizon art cards...wonder if they did p9/duals art cards, say in next masters set, people could use those as proxies, eliminating need to buy the counterfits and flooding the market with fakes, but still serving purpose for those who use proxies

You can really see it by the centering dots at the bottom of the card.

The way that stack of random beta cards spread out was really satisfying

That thumbnail is Rudy’s FACE when he gets a FLOPPY CHALUPA in his double hard shell PARTY PACK

The textbox color of the fake is also coming through as a whiter tint to me. The authentic is more of a cream color.

Can you make a video on ice age era cards? The first time I made contact with some, I thought they were fake. They felt rough and the "black border" was dark green.

The description says Black Lotus Proxy so he got what he paid for!!!! It’s like when people buy a box of unlimited for $200 and when they get it in the mail it’s an actual box but no cards in it....

I wish I saw this video before I bought into one of these scams. Thankfully I only bought 2 listings from a dude for like $12 total, and then discovered your video. I was naive since I've just recently got back into Magic after nearly 20 years. I did not win a fake lotus, but I disputed it anyway, reported the fraud, and got my money back. Now I just buy a bunch of factory sealed booster boxes/loose packs from a few different lgs. Sometimes I do purchase old card lots off of eBay and and up with some decent Beta cards and a bunch of other old school cards.

Rudy Repacked Mistery Box is the only one we can buy

State lottery.. when money goes in education they remove state funding. Example: Schools budget $100 Lottery winnings go to school= $50 School budget now= $100 $50 state dollars reallocated to other this less tracked.

Just look at the centering and scale of the lotus, it's slightly larger and not centered the same as the other two. Also the text box is more white than the other two.

The only time I ever bought repacts is when I lived in Japan and it was from a pawn store...I think it was called game skuco. They were 500 yen repacks and I got like 3 at first not thinking much about it....the first 2 where just a bunch of commons and rares but as I looked it had some uncommon from legends and some from Arabian nights. The 3rd repack was straight gold getting 12 copies of the swords in the repack lol. So I remember just spending 100 bucks every 2 weeks buying out the stock and soon everyone who played magic in the area would buy them lol. To be honest, that was the only time I would say buying repacks was worth it lol.

Genuine cards have a blue core. You can take a jeweler's loop and trace the blue core around the edges.

I purchased a repack and the cards were real alright . By real I mean heavily played and damaged and worth peanuts 🥜

I'm interested in buying those hundred rare lots from StarCityGames or other LGS from Amazon. might be a nice way to start up a collection. :3

Am i the only one that noticed the Wall Street Bets clock behind him? lol

My LGS sells repacks for $1 a pack they still have the normal ratio of rares / commons / uncommons they are just random stuff it makes for a fun cheap draft

Never noticed the Wall Street bets clock in the corner..... black lotus repacks to the moon!!!!!!!!

Holy shit, those Diablo II boxes feel nostalgic...

Nice love it like usual

The text box on this one also looked incredibly pale in color compared to the real original betas. That was the first thing that jumped out at me when I saw that one...

Thank you Rudy for taking a look at my 'fake' lotus. i have contacted the seller and i hope i get a response soon. The other cards that came in the repack were just other common and uncommons from newer sets that i dont really care about. Again, thank you for looking it over, if you have questions, shoot me and email possibly and i can give you more information. Thank you

looks legit, but when you put it against a REAL card, the text box colour looks so wrong, also the actual font looks wrong, immediately i said the back colour was wrong. sorry Timmy, you got scammed

also the bottom triangles in the border are not a prominent white. They pretty dark in color.

Me and a friend got one of them walmart gamble boxes and we both got a pack of lands, 1 pack of m19 and some 25 cents foils. I pull a Crucible of Worlds so I think I beat the system. But yeah, I bought a $20 land pack and got a free Crucible.

@7:20 why do the three have different text appearances? the one of the left looks normal and the other two look bold

I'd still play with it to freak out my friends...

Hey Rudy do you play Diablo II why is there some battle chest in the backround.

I regret having my headphones turned up on this one, Rudy was exceptionally high pitch on the opening.

I'm gonna take my Timmy to the Hose Town Road.

I could see the difference in the text box while it was still in the plastic.

You went over video duration by 50 full seconds. Just for us. That tells a lot about how good of a man you are. I feel like we owe you. Sign up to be in his patreon site guys. P.s. im not related in any ways to ruby. Lol

That intro scared the hell outta me!

Well, he's not COMPLETELY tacoless. He's asking for your help, instead of passing it off as legit. Cheers, Anthony

"Dont buy anything with repack or mystery" Wotc Mystery boosters be like :o

Rudy! But I _have_ to buy Power 9 repacks! If not, what else am I gonna do when I am smoking and drinking energy drinks?!!?

I have worked in printing for 30+ years, and when you were holding the two cards close to the camera at 10:14 you could see a huge difference in the screening of the print. The real card has that nice rosette pattern of the different ink angles coming together, where they fake looks like someone took a scan of a printed piece and printed it off a laser printer, or some other device that does not use dots and mixing of CMYK inks (Cyan Magenta Yellow Black). Just saying.

Maybe Rudy, WotC, etc. could put up a webpage that helps the Timmys visually identify fake MtG cards?

I've ordered from 2 different repackers on ebay. Once each. Too good to be true

00:44 Rudy got high af exactly one hour prior to this moment.

What if there is eventually the technology to perfectly copy beta MTG cards? Would that on its own destroy the market before it could be shut down?

I'm sure both packs had a lotus til seller pulled one out. He got lucky and sold two!

Yea Ebay doesn't care about anything other then them getting their cut until there is more regulations.

That thumbnail still gets me erytime

Rudy is the dad to magic and I love it

I sold core19 repacks just to move all the extra cards. No one at the time wanted arclight phoenix so I was putting x2 or more in some boxes. selling at 30$. x1 phoenix alone just about paid for most of the boxes later. So not everyone is scamming, or trying to scam. Repack is just an easy and known word.