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@99zubat87
@99zubat87 4 года назад
I hope some day in the not distant future we see Death of a Game: RAID: Shadow Legends
@jellophant9716
@jellophant9716 4 года назад
Prove this isn't high level stealth shilling
@nebufabu
@nebufabu 4 года назад
Wait it ever had been alive? There was an actual game with actual people playing? I thought it is shills all the way down...
@brightonbegole5459
@brightonbegole5459 4 года назад
Can’t die if it never really lived, so..,
@henriqueww5175
@henriqueww5175 4 года назад
I would love to see a ''Fortnite death of a game'' not that i hate it or anything but i think it is stagnating the game industry and the young generation that is growing playing it.
@FireCamp105
@FireCamp105 4 года назад
can't kill what's already dead
@ThatFeelBr0
@ThatFeelBr0 2 года назад
"With Overwatch 2 on the horizon..." Oh the past. So innocent.
@robertlupa8273
@robertlupa8273 2 года назад
What happened?
@ThatFeelBr0
@ThatFeelBr0 2 года назад
@@robertlupa8273 After more than a year without any news they announced OW2 and Diablo 4 would be delayed, thought they never said the release date to begin with. Possibly, in part, a result of the current Activision/Blizzard legal troubles.
@sweptay
@sweptay 2 года назад
@@robertlupa8273 Delayed with an expected release in 2023
@HerreraAlonso
@HerreraAlonso 2 года назад
It seems that the past is always innocent wich means the present is innocent
@scardy92
@scardy92 2 года назад
Well they clearly announced those games too soon in order to appease their fans after the Blitzchung/China controversy
@RazCroz22
@RazCroz22 3 года назад
It's kinda hilarious how HotS was made to be the most casual friendly game available on the market and Acti-Blizz overlords decided to force create a esports around it, which is opposite of casual. They even tried to de-casualize the game a little with various changes over time to heroes and gameplay.
@JesseTheGameDev
@JesseTheGameDev 3 года назад
100% agreed, this was silly. They intentionally designed the game to be casual-friendly, then they tried to force it as an esport. 2 contradictory philosophies.
@Wyzai
@Wyzai 3 года назад
It's not really very casual either. If you copy-paste builds, HotS is probably more complicated than LoL.
@odinatra
@odinatra 3 года назад
Theoretically you can have both, but it happens very rarely.
@FreneticPotato
@FreneticPotato 3 года назад
@@odinatra the key is balance, something Activision-Blizzard is not particularly known for
@fbiagent6456
@fbiagent6456 3 года назад
@@Wyzai HotS's micro is almost non-existent and the macro is so simple that an 8 year old can already play it.
@DeadFishFactory
@DeadFishFactory 2 года назад
I'm glad Valve took over Dota with IceFrog in charge. I can't imagine how bad Dota would be if it were under the care of Activision-Blizzard.
@krustyklownkollege7361
@krustyklownkollege7361 2 года назад
Not too hard to imagine. Just look at Heroes of the Storm.
@dkbinoya
@dkbinoya 2 года назад
@@krustyklownkollege7361 fun early, boring late
@MrPronGogh93
@MrPronGogh93 2 года назад
@@dkbinoya fun early, but not for so long: I did play the alpha, or I think it was the alpha (the 35$ early access), i was from lol in a period where even lol bored me and while fun for the first games, especially because I could play characters from my infancy, plus one of the better graphic in the genre, I also got bored really fast from the game because it did lack any recognition over personal performances, and that's was something they could not change
@darklordish1
@darklordish1 2 года назад
everything valve does for dota 2, hurts it
@alies-
@alies- 2 года назад
@@krustyklownkollege7361 yeah, hope you are having fun watching your character wasting 2 sec to turn other side in dota 2. also last hiting creeps for 20 mins must be really enjoyable for you
@R.Konksson
@R.Konksson 2 года назад
I fucking love HoTS... and they way they treated this game makes me furious. They single handedly destroyed their own game...
@vincentdimitri169
@vincentdimitri169 2 года назад
come to the dark side.... Dota 2 awaits you.
@captaincool6785
@captaincool6785 2 года назад
True
@fatrat600284
@fatrat600284 2 года назад
It's still around, nothing is stopping you from playing it.
@creativename2567
@creativename2567 2 года назад
Aside from the nostalgia, league is way better.
@fatrat600284
@fatrat600284 2 года назад
@@creativename2567 Not really, honestly HOTS has better game play and more variety. It cuts out all the bullshit and gets to what makes mobas fun, the team play and fights.
@justinsanchez3286
@justinsanchez3286 3 года назад
Blizzard in 2012: Valve is taking away the game from the community that built it! Blizzard in 2020: All your maps are belong to us
@zebastakian6973
@zebastakian6973 2 года назад
Tbh, I think Valve treated Dota 2 better than Blizzard.
@CanineLupus0114
@CanineLupus0114 2 года назад
Blizzard didn't gave a shit about Dota till it was taken by Valve, they had that coming
@crylune
@crylune 11 месяцев назад
Blizzard can go fuck themselves in this regard. Icefrog literally went to THEM FIRST, wanting to work with them with the condition of having final say in balance changes & having all heroes be free. Iirc he was laughed out of the building.
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 8 месяцев назад
@@CanineLupus0114 Don't ever forget when Dota starts making a lot of $$$
@yurinalysis8034
@yurinalysis8034 8 месяцев назад
@@zebastakian6973 Actually they did, even original developer of Dota mod from Warcraft 3 named Ice Frog still works to them.
@Thagesthoughts
@Thagesthoughts 3 года назад
What's really wild is that, in their desperation to avoid another DOTA, they've all but ensured with the updated Warcraft 3 EULA they'll never have another phenomenon spring up from the editor software their games come bundled with. Nobody's going to invent something that catches on like wildfire in the Warcraft 3 editor if Blizzard is just going to step in, fuck them over, and profit off their free labor. All because Blizzard was pissed off that they let DOTA slip through their fingers and their own incompetence killed HOTS.
@aka-47k
@aka-47k Год назад
yeah the monetezation killed hots, it was the only moba i ever tried out just cause diablo vs jaina was such an awsum conzept. but after i seen that i need to grind random games with random heroes for a long time just to get what i want..../or pay alot) meh. im just too used to grind vs pay monetezation so i calculated that at that time i would need literal 50 hours to get 1 character i just dropped out.
@peasantofpersia
@peasantofpersia 2 года назад
You gotta do a "Death of blizzard" soon.
@Kappi__
@Kappi__ 2 года назад
Activision is sadly to big to fail
@darlingdevil1575
@darlingdevil1575 2 года назад
Sorry to tell you, but it seems like the rot in blizzard was there long before the merger. Recent allegations proves that much.
@civils6790
@civils6790 2 года назад
Overwatch first
@civils6790
@civils6790 2 года назад
@@VincentVincent_89 no need to get salty bitchboy, compared to what it was years ago, its as good as dead,bitch ass the most overrated game ever, and since overwatch 2 are already dead before release, how do you feel fangay?
@longhairedqueer9365
@longhairedqueer9365 2 года назад
@@civils6790 bro ur the one whos mad now jesus christ LMAO
@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit 4 года назад
What went wrong with HotS in a nutshell: It couldn't feed Blizzard-Activision's ravenous, monetary hunger fast enough to survive.
@whyisgamora4191
@whyisgamora4191 4 года назад
This. lol
@Sorrowdusk
@Sorrowdusk 4 года назад
Ay Warcraft Reforged says anything you make in customs belongs to Blizzard just to make sure Dota doesnt happen again :3
@grimzz1499
@grimzz1499 4 года назад
about a month ago i started calling Activision blizzard EA 2.0 if u wanna join in on the trend
@nicolaos355
@nicolaos355 4 года назад
@@grimzz1499 I wouldnt call it EA 2.0... just Activision Bli$$ard. Their greed is so big, that Im not even interested in playing the game I liked coz of that.
@crabbycrab9955
@crabbycrab9955 4 года назад
This, and how and why did they expect to compete with League and Dota in such a short time. During their Esport time, number of viewers actually went up. It was still below 100k, but apparently slow and steady doesn't work for Activision.
@trygveplaustrum4634
@trygveplaustrum4634 4 года назад
Activision Blizzard: Well, if you can't beat 'em... Prevent 'em from making any independent content that you don't own, *ever again.*
@AgrPerez
@AgrPerez 4 года назад
And thus... Warcraft 3: Refunded was born
@Green-tf8uw
@Green-tf8uw 4 года назад
@@AgrPerez and died at the same time
@Marceau.
@Marceau. 4 года назад
I mean, Blizzard pretty much got their revenge with Hearthstone Battlegrounds. Nobody plays Auto Chess anymore nowadays.
@midas6753
@midas6753 4 года назад
@@Marceau. tft is still ridiculously popular though
@tiagodarkpeasant
@tiagodarkpeasant 4 года назад
@@midas6753 the previous set was dumb, but this one is really nice, and playing the same game on pc or mobile is really nice
@darklorty
@darklorty 3 года назад
Ok, I'm convinced now. nerdSlayer is a Thresh main. Every single clip of LoL has a thresh either hooking or flaying someone.
@WolfBergMenace
@WolfBergMenace 2 года назад
This video really hit close to home man, HotS was the first game I actively played with my friends from 2016 to early 2021. We finally stopped after the game got basically no updates and turned stale. It hurts to see the game die like this.
@mb10637
@mb10637 2 года назад
At this point it’s just a casual game. I like the simpler mechanics in hots compared to any other MOBA. Plus, with hots, u can jump off for 5 months and come back with not a lot changing, so ur not far behind.
@Surefire11B
@Surefire11B 2 года назад
Best part about these comments is that the game is still updated up to twice a month with reworks, balance changes and the like. Also while some mechanics in the game are simpler, there are many mechanics that are far more advanced than others, such as map drafting and having different mechanics and timings for multiple maps that change how you play and build the heroes. It's only simple if you don't dive deeper, like most "simple" games. This game is absolutely not just casual. There is a huge amateur scene with several nationally and some internationally recognized tournaments that are still running with huge rosters today. Just because Activision said "see ya" doesn't mean the players did.
@brojakmate9872
@brojakmate9872 2 года назад
It could be worse. They could literally kill the server like Paragon
@DanoLefourbe
@DanoLefourbe 4 года назад
Today's lesson: don't try to build an e-sport economy for a game that doesn't even have a community yet. Especially considering the future of esport as a whole is still uncertain.
@codycos
@codycos 4 года назад
Esports are basically just advertisement for the game, and to sell content.
@PASBGR
@PASBGR 4 года назад
Lets be real here, buddy. I remember how hots managed to attract a lot of attention around the 2.0 patch. It had the community needed. One thing we should agree here - if your game is shit, then it wont be played! Hots suffered from severe delusional mechanics of "we can win with the power of positivity, friendship, cupcakes, and flowers". Their delusional thinking of perfect community, and purging toxicity have backfired on them! Hots was trying so hard to be unique, that it blew it all away! LoL and DotA are so similar, and yet they manage to share it all. Blizzard fuckupstertainment even paid LoL Esport players to play their casual mess. All of them did their jobs, and moved back to their fun counterparts. And I dont blame them! I had enough of the game, that I moved to LoL myself! My god, did I make the right choice! I knew whats going on in the ranked. Playing with players on LoL made more sense than HotS (I still cant explain it). Way more fun than being frustrated in the random shitshow of ranked hots. Should I even get started of how hard it was back then to run their messy game? The performance was awful, and it had bunch of issues on the newest hardware. The customer support was suggesting to players to "Buy different computer hardware"... Again - when your game is shit, you wont get players! This is in general the blizzard game creation quality since 2013. The game got the attention, and did not manage to hold it! Lets not defend their stupidity any more. They got back what they invested!
@DanoLefourbe
@DanoLefourbe 4 года назад
@@PASBGR I smell a bias here.
@PASBGR
@PASBGR 4 года назад
@@DanoLefourbe/videos Thats a very simplistic answer, which doesnt explain what wrong did I say. I played this shitshow fiesta since may 2015
@eugenehardy5298
@eugenehardy5298 4 года назад
@@DanoLefourbe i smell another braindead fanboy here, dont forget to pre-order their next "refunded" shit.
@epithet052
@epithet052 4 года назад
"The biggest profile MOBA flop so far" Paragon: *looking away meme*
@Ilikefinalfantasy795
@Ilikefinalfantasy795 4 года назад
i played that i think i was the wolf caster guy.. good stuff.
@mercenaryninja
@mercenaryninja 4 года назад
oh man, i played serath and khaimera it was a lot of fun. i miss that game.
@tmacker14
@tmacker14 4 года назад
"Laughs in Gigantic"
@Jimmybob0900
@Jimmybob0900 4 года назад
Didn’t epic kill paragon so fortnite could get as many resources as possible
@tmacker14
@tmacker14 4 года назад
@@Jimmybob0900 not completely paragon was basically dead by the time fortnite came out. The success of fornite ultimately caused them to say "lets pull the plug on this dying game"
@Frozen_Death_Knight
@Frozen_Death_Knight Год назад
Well, it is official. The game as of today is getting no more updates. Can't say I didn't see this coming since I quit around 4-5 months ago, but it is still sad regardless. Thanks for the memories, even though they weren't so great. Referencing songs aside, I loved playing this game. It was the last breath of the old Blizzard before everything went completely down the drain the last few years. It was fun while it lasted, even when there were so many rage moments. The game was there for me in my lowest moments and in my moments of triumph, but now it is time to close this chapter of my life. I hope you are happy, Blizzard. You just lost a 2 decades long fan of your games for life. Not going to play any of your games after everything that has happened for the last 5 years.
@fn5k
@fn5k Год назад
This was the only MOBA I ever liked. A lot of nice memories over thousands of games. Stopped playing after it entered maintenance mode because I refused to let Blizzard ruin my memories of HOTS. They really tend to destroy everything good.
@Ara_Arasaka
@Ara_Arasaka Год назад
So I’m here from the future with some news…. Yeah. It’s dead-dead.
@Chadius
@Chadius 4 года назад
Moral: You can't shove eSports down everyone's throat. Read the room and find your audience, THEN decide where to go.
@ii2gjdp20sjdj2
@ii2gjdp20sjdj2 4 года назад
They did the same exact thing with Overwatch. The grassroot scene was just starting to flourish when they announced OWL, swiped all of that away and started forcing esports down everyone's throat. It's so miserably corporate and worse it's trying to emulate real life sports with those stupid ass team names and homestands and what have you... Now the viewer numbers are pitiful when you compare them to other major esports scenes. They even moved to RU-vid...
@TheEregos
@TheEregos 4 года назад
Except it was massive for Heroes and Overwatch. It dying for Heroes was a big blow and Overwatch is one of the biggest ones around period. Heroes has just went grassroots now Blizzard are not involved, it was a game that was always going to have eSports as it still does.
@nikolastapakkis7021
@nikolastapakkis7021 4 года назад
True, people didnt like to watch it casually why would they want to watch the esports part? During release it had a hype spell for a few weeks i think 2 weeks in the top 4 and then it just dropped. Now it has 4x less viewers than runescape.... The vid also makes a great point. Nobody knows a single hots pro, i played the game and watched streams when it released and the only players i remember were the league pros that jumped to hots for content and then went back to lol.
@em7894
@em7894 4 года назад
Overwatch is and will never be an esport no matter how much they pushed it to become one. Blizzard is an embarassment to competition
@nikolastapakkis7021
@nikolastapakkis7021 4 года назад
​@@em7894 Thats a bit harsh i feel. Blizzard has had alot of success in hearthstone competition. There is only 1 fault i feel in Blizzards system, they tried to make esports out of things that cant have esports. It is the same problem Epic had with fortnite esports. In all fairness to Blizzard HOTS didnt flop esports because it was a bad idea, it was just worst than the alternatives LOL and Dota2. If those 2 didnt exist there was a chance that HOTS esports would be a massive thing but you are directly competing with games that are better and more enjoyable to watch. Now Overwatch only failed because its very hard to follow i feel. Its will never have the appeal of CS or TF2. I think one more problem that will arise now is if they try to make WARZONE esports. The game is dying out very fast and BR games are generally bad as esports because they are hard to follow from a directors point. You will have 50 teams competing, you have multiple gunfights going at the same time, you have the gulags you have so much action at all time that it would be impossible to show everything.
@Cylisium
@Cylisium 4 года назад
Blizzard also clearly lacked advertising for HOTS. They put a million cashprize for the HGC, but not even on their launcher have they put an ad for their event as we could have seen for the Overwatch league.
@Noobie2k7
@Noobie2k7 4 года назад
Honestly played the game for years and had barely an idea they even had an e-sports scene at all until it was announced it'd been canceled lol.
@Nierez
@Nierez 4 года назад
Seriously I was so deep in League of Legends that I heard about HoTS from a friend of a friend of a friend. So Blizzard advertisement did not reach me. Tried it, have not left ever since.
@Noobie2k7
@Noobie2k7 4 года назад
@@Nierez I did enjoy the fact it had so many different maps with various win conditions, even if they did somewhat boil down to the same thing. Though that zerg rush one can fuck off. I just feel like the lack of ways to players to have any real individual impact on games kind of hurt it a lot when it came to actual ranked. When your entire ability to progress in ranked is reliant on the other 4 members of your team not being fuck ups.
@SamGarcia
@SamGarcia 4 года назад
I'm guessing all the advertising went to South Korea
@helloWorld29138
@helloWorld29138 4 года назад
@tolbo ton because dota by name is already popular. News just spreads orally. If it had different name I doubt it would have the same fan base as it has now
@Tintelinus
@Tintelinus 2 года назад
"There was another Moba at the time being developed, called heroes of newearth, but thats a story for another time" With the announcement that they are shutting down the servers of that game, I think its a good time now. Its kinda funny in a way that of all Mobas born in the Moba craze of the early 10s, only like 2 or 3 remain standing with LoL, Dota 2 and I guess Smite?
@MrPronGogh93
@MrPronGogh93 2 года назад
And the reason why lol and dota2 are still at the top, kinda, is they incentivize personal performance over the team, dota2, or are just cheap to run, lol.
@Awsomatude
@Awsomatude 2 года назад
Smite was really the only one that successfully made a unique MOBA. Paragon was the only other one that compared, but that copied too much from the other bigger names.
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 2 года назад
I actually really like HoN b'coz that's how I learned moba's mechanic
@himlolo
@himlolo 2 года назад
@@MrPronGogh93 dota 2 isn’t team focused? Maybe if you’re playing turbo alone. League is also team focused I don’t know how people say stuff like this. If you play alone you’re just gonna feed. Some characters jungle I guess but most of them need to stay for team fights. And you say this while characters like death wing exist in hots.
@MrPronGogh93
@MrPronGogh93 2 года назад
@@himlolo no, play league at higher elo, you just pick the most broken champ in meta who can solo carry though overloaded kit or damage, or both. Even kn the support role, team oriented champ like Braum are useless compared to thing like lux, sona, pyke or any support who can deal tons of damage. Maybe on flex and championship thing are different, but not on soloQ, in the last 7 year I did play.
@Steak51430
@Steak51430 2 года назад
23:00. Guy is spot on. I knew of cloud9 for winning hots once. But never knew any players and didn’t care much about the team or any that existed. I don’t even play LoL or watch it but I still know who Faker is. Genius point.
@user-fr1ys2wn4t
@user-fr1ys2wn4t 2 года назад
Wait what? People didn't realized this from day 1? I thought it was pretty obvious that you as a player didn't have any influence on the game. The game is so straight forward that you can't tell the difference between playing against players or playing against bots.
@Peachrocks5
@Peachrocks5 2 года назад
The thing that bothers me about this though is that this creates a game that has roles everyone flocks to and most people avoid and try to get out of playing. Role queue to a degree helps, but even there some people will try get around it by playing a support like a core or being ridiculously greedy. I mean sure Heroes is worse, because nobody has impact in that game, but in Dota and LoL there's no denying some roles have way more impact then others and ultimately it's still people who have to play those low impact roles. It's always annoyed me how in many scenarios in Dota especially, even if you have two supports that have one of the carries by their balls, it just doesn't matter, they pop black king bar or something and just own you anyway and you need to beg your carry to stop farming for five seconds to help you take advantage of the opportunity you should be able to act on without asking permission. Playing as a support in a solo queue for 95% of people is a miserable experience and only the very best are skilful enough to overcome the natural handicaps the role has. This ultimately is why I don't play Dota with people anymore. I 'like' the support heroes, but playing them with most people is just horrible. Maybe if Heroes was three players instead of five and wasn't so heavy handed and fixed in its roles like healing and such. If I could design a moba, i'd like to try that and mess with some things and have more 'services' that function a similar way to those mostly undesirable roles. There are those who like them, but I've never met someone who refuses to play carry/core. Met plenty who refuse to play support.
@avatarblood0
@avatarblood0 2 года назад
@@Peachrocks5 i honestly disagree with you when it comes to supports in dota. You seem to not understand the role and how you can carry your team as a support. The point of a support is to carry the early game. You are the strongest in the first 10 minutes and it's your job to make sure your carry farms and your enemy doesn't. You also have to make plays and help not only your lane, but other lanes get kills. If you do your job well you carried the game by making sure your carry is really fat and your enemy can't even afford bkb. Late game you aren't as strong, but you can still help a lot by placing good wards. Vision wins the game.
@FriendlyYandere
@FriendlyYandere 4 года назад
Hots, is exactly the kind of MOBA I was looking for, no items, team shared experience, variety of maps with different objectives, and most appealing of all, shorter match. Too bad It doesn't get the love it deserves.
@budilamarius5053
@budilamarius5053 4 года назад
Yeah, I enjoy playing this dogshit unbalanced, dumbed down casual moba, really makes you feel like Batman.
@FriendlyYandere
@FriendlyYandere 4 года назад
@@budilamarius5053 Here you go, I give you an attention.
@gablam-7947
@gablam-7947 4 года назад
@@FriendlyYandere too casual
@FriendlyYandere
@FriendlyYandere 4 года назад
@@gablam-7947 Ah, you want an attention too? here you go.
@suthiraksb
@suthiraksb 4 года назад
It has many good systems that I love, but the system that make us left is matchmaking. 5 random new players vs 5 pros party sometimes 5 soft heroes vs burst mages team even balance can't help Share exp has both good and bad, If your teammate are good your overall exp will lead enemy's for sure unless their special role is too good, If your got bad teammate that keep feeding sometime yours may follow the enemy's 5-6 lv. and will never change the games.
@DeusExDraconian
@DeusExDraconian 4 года назад
And to think if they had actually cared in the first place they could've had all that DOTA2 money.
@Amplifymagic
@Amplifymagic 4 года назад
They were too busy focusing on World of Warcraft, which was and still is a money printing machine.
@ufuk5872
@ufuk5872 4 года назад
But its valve who make the pro scene so enticing with it money pool that keep growing every year, with the way blizz handle their esport wanting it to be TV friendly i doubt it get close in their hand.
@tsozohoshi6182
@tsozohoshi6182 4 года назад
@@ufuk5872 that's true. Blizzard's approach to eSports needs re-evaluating. Overwatch could be much bigger in the eSports scene if blizzard took the right steps
@nickarmitt4722
@nickarmitt4722 4 года назад
@@tsozohoshi6182 That awkward moment where before suspension the OWL was getting record viewing figures and people saying the destruction of the meta and ban pools had shaken the league up in a big way: making it better for the viewer. But hey... They are only worth about $12BN, roughly 4 times that of Valve and didn't need to make their money from monopolisation and anti-competition way of running. That is why Valve and Gabe are now sycophantic about Epic store... Cause us in Europe told that fat diabetic piece of shit that Valve would get huge fines if they proceeded to act like cunts. But you autistitards knew all this right? Being the autistic retarded virgins you all clearly are. Only MOBA players Ive ever met have been virgins and thotts.
@oneonly2762
@oneonly2762 4 года назад
@@nickarmitt4722 U mad, bruh?
@jacoboalcaldebravo7316
@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 2 года назад
A minor thing that is also worth mentioning: When Leoric was implemented in HotS, Blizzard had another beef with Valve over Dota 2. This time, it was over the hero Skeleton King. I don't know the details, but i rememeber how suddenly after Diretide (halloween event) Skeleton King was no longer playable in Dota 2 and the patch notes indicated he was removed due to "Seasonal reasons" until they released a Christmas event the same year in which they revealed Wraith King to substitute Skeleton King. Dunno if this means that Blizzard won a case against Valve or Valve wanted to avoid a case with Blizzard, but it was pretty interesting.
@MrDeflador
@MrDeflador 2 года назад
It was the later, that is also why windrunner is now windranger
@jacoboalcaldebravo7316
@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 2 года назад
@@MrDeflador Oh, yes. I forgot about that. And also the changes done to Omniknight and Silencer to make them look different from SpellStealers and human Paladins. These changes were introduced in the summer if i remember correctly.
@MrDeflador
@MrDeflador 2 года назад
@@jacoboalcaldebravo7316 omniknight Changes were way later, it was when they added statusresistance in strengh (which they removed later on)
@fntthesmth423
@fntthesmth423 2 года назад
You do have to admit that, no matter the many failings of this whole thing, "Heroes of the Dorm" is a good name
@Choppytehbear1337
@Choppytehbear1337 4 года назад
Waiting for "Death of a Game: Warcraft 3 Reforged."
@joegott188
@joegott188 4 года назад
Reforged is not a game. It's a $30 scam
@bartekrudy1161
@bartekrudy1161 4 года назад
It can't die if its not alive to begin with :D
@MrRuano825
@MrRuano825 4 года назад
We already have a Wha Happun on it.
@KeyLimeadeish
@KeyLimeadeish 4 года назад
@@bartekrudy1161 we still got a video on artifact's stillbirth
@lorenzo3
@lorenzo3 4 года назад
lol reforged 3 they didnt even update the ground layer and i think they worked 2 years for this shit as write its a really 30$ scam
@loksunl8714
@loksunl8714 4 года назад
see "Source: TotalBiscuit", oh the nostalgia is hitting me again .RIP TB
@jannesainio7672
@jannesainio7672 4 года назад
Miss him so much. Reason I went through comments, I saw TB's name in the vid.
@morganbothwell7747
@morganbothwell7747 4 года назад
@Qunt Goblin don't hurt yourself with that edge
@Dean123123100
@Dean123123100 4 года назад
@Qunt Goblin careful now, you might kill someone with all that edge or yourself if you fall over
@someguy9970
@someguy9970 4 года назад
B. M. Hey remember when TB told someone to get cancer and die, then he himself got cancer and died? Ironic.
@stijolew5127
@stijolew5127 4 года назад
@@someguy9970 Remember when the person he said that to accepted his apologies and didn't hold a grudge against TB for years, even after his death? But hey man, I guess being happy that a dude died because he one time said a mean thing to someone on the internet gives you the moral high ground.
@LeonhardWelebny
@LeonhardWelebny 2 года назад
Yes, as a long-time fan of HotS, I for sure "hate" this video. What I hate about it is how accurate it is. There was so much potential killed by mismanagment :(
@alies-
@alies- 2 года назад
true. man, its a really good game on paper. problem is that it was managed VERY purely, starting from rejecting dota before Valve and Riot aquired it. Same goes with wc3 reforged, they just fudged up one of the most legendary games in existence. I really hope that Microsoft will do something to make that game better
@slimpwarrior
@slimpwarrior 2 года назад
It's still much more fun that any other Moba
@dr.sweetlove7859
@dr.sweetlove7859 3 года назад
“The thing that annoyed players the most.” *Shows Murky* Yep that’s a good reason why I get annoyed with the game.
@bigsmall246
@bigsmall246 3 года назад
Murky was the most fun character ever
@dr.sweetlove7859
@dr.sweetlove7859 3 года назад
@@bigsmall246 I was more of a Lost Vikings man myself. I just get annoyed by Murky because when I played against friends who mained him and were Diamond they would just merk me in lane. So maybe it’s just the PTSD talking.
@adam-ft2ny
@adam-ft2ny 2 года назад
Illidan
@kolofre
@kolofre 2 года назад
I mained murky, hes the most amazing character in the game
@GarkKahn
@GarkKahn 2 года назад
No, morales and its ulti travelling 5ft away when you could basically teleport to the other side of the map What a waste of mana and time
@allzofeel
@allzofeel 4 года назад
Imagine if they kept Blizzard All Stars. "Hey wanna play some BALLS?"
@Rogueakeri31
@Rogueakeri31 4 года назад
I mean, HotS still sound oddly sexual.
@SuperThunderPanda
@SuperThunderPanda 4 года назад
waht do the double Ls stand for
@nandu6136
@nandu6136 4 года назад
@@SuperThunderPanda all
@Sebastian82
@Sebastian82 4 года назад
the BALLS acronym was actually the main reason for the rename because it would have caused issues with sponsors
@poison2028
@poison2028 4 года назад
incrediBALLS
@boxtears
@boxtears 4 года назад
I admit I still like this game though and play it regularly.
@shippoi
@shippoi 4 года назад
I play it every so often. It's a nice change of pace from the other Mobas. It's less stressful than the other Mobas, that's for sure 😅
@mahghuuuls7290
@mahghuuuls7290 4 года назад
I play it regularly.. It is my favorite moba
@AJonez
@AJonez 3 года назад
It just isn't as good as it was pre-Overwatch.
@dkbinoya
@dkbinoya 3 года назад
DEATH OF THE GAME: HEROES OF NEWERTH, WHEN¿
@BKNimaruIchi
@BKNimaruIchi 2 года назад
Man seeing TotalBiscuit in a video (or his avatar at least) threw me for a loop. Hope you're resting in peace big guy, you're dearly missed.
@theblankking1966
@theblankking1966 4 года назад
Hots: “I’m not dead” N.S: “You will be in a moment.” Hots: “I feel fine.” N.S: “You’re not fooling anyone.” Hots: “I think I’ll go for a walk!” N.S: **blackjacks** In all seriousness I actually really like this game and it really hurts to see it go down this path. Probably the most painful death of a game to watch for me besides Battleborn, another unsuccessful game I really enjoyed. I hope it finds success in the future but... yeah, I’m not liking the odds. (Edit: Just wanted to thank all of you for the insane amount of likes and all the fun mini-discussions an that one guy who knew what my profile pic was from. You guys are too much and I'm so flattered
@flarest1234
@flarest1234 4 года назад
The Blank King Paragon was also a sad death.
@Samm815
@Samm815 4 года назад
"I feel happy~!"
@HyperBlast4
@HyperBlast4 4 года назад
ya i liked HoTS too, was fun but once activision blizzard decided to pull their esports, almost the ENTIRE community left and it just...wasnt fun anymore
@Shadow.24772
@Shadow.24772 4 года назад
yea...i stopped playing the game when the esports got terminated..not to say i was a big fan of the esports. just, the way they handled it. it should've been left to organically happen. also, the ranked, should've been exclusive 5 man team only... sure, it would have been sparsely populated, BUT it's the game's strength so should've been used, also encourage "veteran" to bring new players in to become "cogs" Ha Ha. god, this video made me shed tears of sorrow...
@ItsJustTeddington
@ItsJustTeddington 4 года назад
You can't kill what is already dead at conception. HotS was a stillbirth.
@highsocks5914
@highsocks5914 4 года назад
"At least we got Deathwing" -Hots community.
@user-jx2dc1oc3k
@user-jx2dc1oc3k 4 года назад
Too bad Deathwing has the most unoriginal and ugly skillsets
@budilamarius5053
@budilamarius5053 4 года назад
Dogshit design of a hero, get that abomination out of my game.
@whyisgamora4191
@whyisgamora4191 4 года назад
Hah I was so excited for him, too bad he turned out to be a boring, rushed, annoying piece of shit.
@Noobie2k7
@Noobie2k7 4 года назад
I prefered Deathwing when he was just the meme of the game where every hero tease trailer was "Deathwing confirmed! And here's why" with some random nonsense about how a plant seen for 2 seconds in the trailer looked like Deathwings left nut.
@Lucitaur
@Lucitaur 4 года назад
Would be funny and ironic if he was the last hero added. And aspect of death announcing the official death of the game!
@LTSurge8888
@LTSurge8888 Год назад
I came here to officially put the last stone on this grave, RIP HOTS, was a great game, such a shame they dont care
@badisghouila8410
@badisghouila8410 4 года назад
This video was about the death of HOTS esports in my opinion...
@erth8096
@erth8096 4 года назад
Yah game is still running good they are even releasing new heroes
@TurboDodgeXVI
@TurboDodgeXVI 4 года назад
Yep, still loving it almost every day.
@maikatiemuj2706
@maikatiemuj2706 4 года назад
@@TurboDodgeXVI quit that shit when the deathwing patch came,worst time in hots by a long shot at least for me
@Moonwhale
@Moonwhale 4 года назад
Yeah, seriously the gameplay in this game is so much better than any MOBA. and I started in DOTA and tried everyone else. LOL even felt slow to me. like their normal speed felt like walking that was years ago though. I felt Heroes of Newerth was the best Sequel to all those when HOTS wasn't available yet.
@ladjiel
@ladjiel 4 года назад
Anyone know the opening jazz instrumental song of this video ?
@LoudMutes
@LoudMutes 4 года назад
Seeing all this footage with TotalBiscuit in it... I miss that man so much. He got me into following gaming journalism, and there has never been anyone that can replace him and his 30 minute tirades about fov sliders. You'll always be remembered John.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 4 года назад
True!
@Suthek
@Suthek 4 года назад
"You call this a bloody FOV slider you donkey?!"
@TerminusTartaros
@TerminusTartaros 4 года назад
Amen brother
@Trakesh
@Trakesh 4 года назад
Reminder that he abused his wife after she decided not to vote in 2016.
@misao6397
@misao6397 4 года назад
@@Trakesh fuck off, the man was dying of cancer and dealing with a lot of stress. In his final years he was definitely becoming loopy as fuck but that shouldn't cancel out all the achievements and good things he did in his life. I doubt you would be sunshine and smiles while knowing your death was coming. Don't try and drag dead people's names through the mud.
@nerdSlayerstudioss
@nerdSlayerstudioss 4 года назад
Oh yeah and here's this DOAG we have been cooking up. If you are affected in some way by this quarantine this one is for you guys :). Sources in the description as always.
@suisei9040
@suisei9040 4 года назад
Been waiting brother - Love your content!
@Hephamos
@Hephamos 4 года назад
@Canadian Viking But it isn't over? The game marches on despite all of the obstacles it has been given
@DarkThagan
@DarkThagan 4 года назад
So I am not supposed to watch this? :(
@j.murray5656
@j.murray5656 4 года назад
Hey how about resident evil rebirth of a franchise? (After 5 and 6). Would make be really revelent now given re2 and the quarantine situation. Also i just really want you to cover resident evil more.
@LookIDrum
@LookIDrum 4 года назад
But HotS is still online, getting updates, and being maintained? They just cut e-sports and the team size a little. Didn't put it on maintenance mode or anything like that. Yes it may be a bad sign, but it's still very much alive with people very much playing it.
@DmytroBogdan
@DmytroBogdan 3 года назад
As an old Smite MOBA player I can confirm that a factor of strong individual in competitive team play is very important for a casual player. I personally follow pros I like and it motivates me to boot the game more often to try their builds or strategies.
@Xpit12345
@Xpit12345 3 года назад
I love HOTs it's literally the only MOBA I like. Such a shame it's going down like that. Esports meh, never cared about it.
@fbiagent6456
@fbiagent6456 3 года назад
Esports bring money, exposure, and influence.
@FiLpLokko
@FiLpLokko 3 года назад
@@fbiagent6456 but they should focus on the game first, if the game is good and have a potential for esports it will naturally grow a good esports scene, they shouldn't take that much of investments to artificially build an esport scene, maybe just a smaller investment, instead they should invest that money in the game, then when the game is more sucessful, then they could give a bigger boost to the esport side, btw i dont care about esports either, but i know the good it can do for the game
@Manganization
@Manganization 2 года назад
The game isn't dead though. The e-sport community is, but that's also showing signs of coming back too. But overall, the game never died. It's funny, but killing the esports aspect helped the game more than it hurt it.
@Icetea-2000
@Icetea-2000 2 года назад
The game isn’t really dead yet
@Fatymable
@Fatymable 2 года назад
@@Manganization lmao delusional
@nathanpurss4582
@nathanpurss4582 4 года назад
I love Hots, I wish it wasn't forgotten about because it's actually pretty fun when you play with friends.
@hoamanh7638
@hoamanh7638 2 года назад
Any game is fun to play with friends.
@TheSpaniard
@TheSpaniard 4 года назад
Yet another DOAG that makes the entire series just feel like an ever-running thesis on gaming companies screwing up by getting too greedy.
@TzvetozarCherkezov
@TzvetozarCherkezov 4 года назад
They literally screwed up by INVESTING too much money in their e-sports scene and thus creating a bubble. Not to mention the game had the biggest team of all teams in Blizzard, which means it drained the most resources. It's the opposite of what you're saying. It's the company not understanding how much to invest in order to get continuing organic growth.
@Ulubai
@Ulubai 4 года назад
Jim Sterling Son would be proud.
@ououkuaipao
@ououkuaipao 4 года назад
@@TzvetozarCherkezov and hots game design focus on too much teamplay killing it like overwatch for me. Good thing is that overwatch has no competition but it is a dead game for me. And all the aoe ability and rank games make me sick of the game
@Chadius
@Chadius 4 года назад
This and Wha Happun are the tag-team kings of this.
@ggEmolicious
@ggEmolicious 2 года назад
My favorite thing about hots was getting to play as characters that I had felt a sort of personal connection to through the other games. It even brought lesser known characters to my attention like LiLi who I loved playing in hots and then when I went back to WoW and saw her there was like “ohhhhhhh, THAT was LiLi!” And then quickly said “my uncle taught me this one!”
@magoog9864
@magoog9864 3 года назад
Im still playing it. Faster queue times now than ever before imo
@FractiousOrderXypher
@FractiousOrderXypher 3 года назад
not as toxic as the other mobas
@EL-ISS
@EL-ISS 3 года назад
I never got into it, but when I did have my brief time playing I noticed that people weren't as big of assholes as they are in other MOBAs like League it DOTA. Not as much tilt, not as much raging or BM. The games not for me personally but I'll acknowledge it's humble fan base lol.
@moezbadboy
@moezbadboy 4 года назад
after watching this video i started playing hots again lol
@maxhoyle7040
@maxhoyle7040 2 года назад
Me thinking youre playing the seconding starcraft 2 installation
@matttyler9963
@matttyler9963 2 года назад
But there's literally no freedom in that game, pick a character and 6oure basically locked into whatever spell you level up first and that's all that's to it
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 2 года назад
It's actually a pretty good game tbh. Not perfect, but it's fun.
@Chillrogg
@Chillrogg 2 года назад
It’s so fuuuun
@Chillrogg
@Chillrogg 2 года назад
@@bearok89 glad to hear bro 🙂
@FuryhotsOP
@FuryhotsOP 4 года назад
Damn this really hurts to see, being one of the ex pro players from hots I agree it got released way too late and Alpha/Beta phase took way too long and didn’t get enough attention early on. I don’t think hots should ever try to compare themselves to Dota/league because the way hots was designed is so different from both of them yet Blizzard forced the name “moba brawler” I think if the game was released sooner then the esports scene was going to be fine no matter how much money blizzard invests. Overall Blizzard too slow and poorly timed hots when it could have been something big but never as big as Dota/league. Nice video though thank you 💙
@DevastatorKnight
@DevastatorKnight 4 года назад
Good to see you still around Fury. Loved to watch all the HGC games. I still enjoy HotS but I do miss it having a competitive scene to watch. Hope you're doing well.
@Digger-Nick
@Digger-Nick 4 года назад
@@rampart5631 Hots games are shorter and character design is arguably better. Unlike league, I'm not stuck on a team with badkids for 30+ minutes because they refuse to surrender a game they made unwinnable.
@matheusg.3508
@matheusg.3508 4 года назад
@@rampart5631 I Switched 5 years ago and neve came back hahaha And hardly I will come back even if HotS die someday in the future... It showed me how a true MOBA is like hahaha And I will never settle for less again XD
@jonathanlui930
@jonathanlui930 4 года назад
I've never touched HotS but am an avid Hearthstone and League player. However, I distinctly remember reading the article about the cancellation of the esports scene for HotS. As a player was it a shock, were teams told in advance? And through some quick reading I've learned you were mainly a tank player, what were your thoughts on the teamwork aspect of HotS and that there was less room to carry games on ranked or in professional games?
@SuperiorApostate
@SuperiorApostate 4 года назад
nah, fuck them and their PC culture. I said and hoped it would crash and burn and it did. Fuck blizzard altogether.
@HarumiYu
@HarumiYu 3 года назад
I played HoN like crazy back in the day, because they had some fantastic announcers, sadly the game not reached the ultimate popularity being such a nice MOBA.
@DrNiradino
@DrNiradino 3 года назад
I reached somewhere around 1750 MMR back in HoN before i got banished to russian only servers. Game itself was fun, better Dota 2 then actual Dota 2, but devs were kinda scummy.
@Karanthaneos
@Karanthaneos 3 года назад
@@DrNiradino There's a sort of comeback recently, they've been updating the character models and even released an x64 version not so long ago. It's certainly not thriving and rerising, but I'd play a couple games for old time's sake.
@emanuelstornello8009
@emanuelstornello8009 3 года назад
the fact that most mobas need to have a solo-carry sterotype to be entertaining makes part of why moba audience are chernobyl toxic.
@Prushinthespirit
@Prushinthespirit 3 года назад
Well, Blizzard went from it to the absurd degree when you are completely helpless if your team has a wrong composition and cooperates worse than the enemy's one. Blizzard have this dumb habit to invent a bicycle when noone ever asked them. So, that's why the majority of people choose stereotypic mobas instead.
@emanuelstornello8009
@emanuelstornello8009 3 года назад
@@Prushinthespirit i agree, blizzard fucked up. I was just commenting on how the state of mobas can't find a balance between team game and solo-carry.
@justme89632147
@justme89632147 3 года назад
I think having having no gold system not only limits the solo-carry potential but also limits the number of ways you can play a character. You are limited to playing a character to only a few ways and all those ways are how Blizzard intended them (the talent system). In LoL you have your runes (which aren't champion specific like the talents in HOTS) and a LOT of items to build, this makes it so that you can play a character the way you want to or you can adapt to the situation of the game. Full glass cannon, or more lifesteal, maybe a more supportive route, there are so many options to choose from. This was what bothered me the most about hots, that I'm limited so much to how Blizzard wants me to play a certain character. This way, playing the same champion a few games in a row gets boring really fast. There is no other build I can try out, oh maybe I can take a different talent this time, woopdeedoo... With non-champion specific runes and items there are limitless amount of options to customize your playstlyle with one champion. Sure, if you're competitive there will always be a meta, this is as certain as death & taxes, but it's very rare that there is only ONE correct build for a champion, there usually are multiple good build paths you can take. It also keeps players engaged, when watching youtubers or pro's and they try a completely innovative build, a lot of players will want to try it out themselves and so they keep playing. Tl;dr I think experimenting with items or runes/talents is a big deal in MOBA's, the ability to modify your champion to different playstyles and adapt to situations is what keeps playing the same champion over and over fresh. In HOTS you only have the talent system, but these are champion specific, so it's still not really unique and more of a pre-cooked meal given to you by Blizzard. While a home-cooked meal made by yourself always tastes way better.
@steen0059
@steen0059 3 года назад
@@justme89632147 The rune system just seems really stupid in a more strategic moba style that LoL and Dota have. It creates this situation where you could be already at a defecit/disadvantage before the game even starts. Seems...dumb.
@fuckdyoud2734
@fuckdyoud2734 3 года назад
Sort of, its purely just that the potential needs to be there. Its not like I hate goign even in a moba or not stomping. but its not that bad getting stomped in a moba anyways, it usually doesnt last that long and you get to see some cool ideas in the enemy player. Some people really really hate the idea of losing badly so thats why you dont see solo carry potential in these mobas, its an attempt at player retention that actually fails, because most people can carry a game if they just try. I just hate the idea of skill capping good players by limiting the impact one player can have on a game.
@janosch13100
@janosch13100 4 года назад
I didnt follow Hots news for a while so when I read the title I was just like: "SAY IT AIN'T SO" I love the game alot. Its just that when they moved people away from the dev team and announced the stop of the Esport League it kind of killed my motivation. I felt like the game was being left behind and I was playing a game without much of a future. Really made me sad. I think this is one of the best MOBA's out there and the first that made me actually play ranked games because I wanted to AND I had a great experience
@matheusg.3508
@matheusg.3508 4 года назад
It's strange to say that but... Without the eSports scene, the devs aren't overwhelmed anymore, and the game is way more fluid theses days ! It's strange but there are more people playing it now than before, you should come visit a play some matches haha
@erikciel2817
@erikciel2817 4 года назад
no
@user-hk3ik5wq2n
@user-hk3ik5wq2n 4 года назад
Game is still running and still good. Yes, no official payed tournaments, so what!?I Wasnt attending them before, no planning for future. Closing pro scene influenced people who was earning money on that, not average person who just had fun of playing not a bad game. Feel pitty on all these sheeps and slaves of fashion who can switch from the thing they are doing and like to another(not really better), just because mass is more hyped abt other stuff. Abt heads of blizzard who decides the course of the company nowadays and how it should grow, - wish they burn in hell😊.
@abhabh6896
@abhabh6896 4 года назад
It just doesnt work out. Their approach was too idealistic in design. Everyone equal? Maybe causal players complain about that but in Esport scene it needs to be like that for those pros to be entertaining.
@janosch13100
@janosch13100 4 года назад
@@abhabh6896 It never felt "equal". You stood out with skill not items. The notion that you couldnt carry in this game was also kind of weird to me because you clearly could. You just cant do this 1v5 stuff you see in other games
@thelastfanboy131
@thelastfanboy131 4 года назад
Just finished playing some HOTS with a friend and said "lets check out RU-vid before I go to bed...oh"
@matheusg.3508
@matheusg.3508 4 года назад
I can't understand how people still insists the game is dead... I think that they want it to die, it's the only reason...
@ououkuaipao
@ououkuaipao 4 года назад
@@matheusg.3508 well its dead compare other two
@OfficerDva444
@OfficerDva444 4 года назад
@@matheusg.3508 I agree I think ppl see it as a failure and would rather have it dead then exist.
@OfficerDva444
@OfficerDva444 4 года назад
@@ououkuaipao Sadly true =(
@matheusg.3508
@matheusg.3508 4 года назад
@@OfficerDva444 Just let other people be happy... I don't like LoL or DotA and I don't go out making people stop playing it... O.o
@commonsensegaming1756
@commonsensegaming1756 3 года назад
they waited to long. i waited years and years for this game. when it finaly came out the hype was over. just like the warcraft movie
@ThorneyedWT
@ThorneyedWT 2 года назад
Warcraft movie lost 70% audience on 2nd week. It has nothing to do with the hype.
@faustalexander2585
@faustalexander2585 4 года назад
I started watching HotS with MFPallytime and the fun of his matches made me try the game. Overall its still fun to play, and I wish it had more players.
@porkbabyy
@porkbabyy 4 года назад
HOTS is such a stellar game, and all those employees’ hard work totally shows. his points are valid but this shit hurted
@flameofanor1415
@flameofanor1415 4 года назад
"Stellar" is such an overstatement.
@seld2040
@seld2040 4 года назад
@@flameofanor1415 It is, you like it or not.
@Zaxomio
@Zaxomio 4 года назад
​@@seld2040 It's honestly been one of my favorite games since beta release. I've been playing it on and off from the very beginning and I always find myself returning, can't say the same for my 3000 or so games into league, I never went to go back to that cesspool again. I don't think this game will leave my pc until the day they close down the servers.
@seld2040
@seld2040 4 года назад
@@Zaxomio Exactly, it's the same for me. It's a great game :) you never have the same game twice.
@ragingmoo157
@ragingmoo157 4 года назад
Zaxomio same man I’ve been on and off with the game too and right now I’m playing again
@michaelsude5291
@michaelsude5291 4 года назад
The TotalBiscuit fottage got me cold. He was for long time my favourite Streamer/Contentcreator. Thanks for adding him.
@Netherlag1
@Netherlag1 4 года назад
where is that part?
@michaelsude5291
@michaelsude5291 4 года назад
@@Netherlag1 Around 08:28 are several gameplay parts from him.
@lynnmorgan5897
@lynnmorgan5897 4 года назад
May he respawn in a better place
@nikolakarovic5964
@nikolakarovic5964 4 года назад
RIP
@Leedark3
@Leedark3 4 года назад
I almost shed a tear when I saw that name on screen.
@kurtw6922
@kurtw6922 Год назад
Abathur is the best, most fun and unique moba playstyle ever created.
@maxxieboy271
@maxxieboy271 Год назад
As an 8 year league player, i've recently fallen in love with HotS, its so refreshing. I love the lore of LoL, but the gameplay was exhausting after a while, and the longer matches proved less feasable with a kid of my own
@captainwedge2335
@captainwedge2335 4 года назад
While the esports scene is not the same, there's still a very active amateur scene open to all skill levels that's going strong. Nexus Gaming Series (90+ teams) in NA is having signups for its 9th season right now and Heroes Lounge (110+ teams) in EU is going on its 12th season. Lots of opportunities for anyone that enjoys the game still!
@channelecruteak
@channelecruteak 4 года назад
I want to log on and play but every time the chat lobby is just spam of the N word and trump shit. Log Off LOL
@captainwedge2335
@captainwedge2335 4 года назад
@@channelecruteak that might be the case from the general chat in game, but both the NA and EU leagues are safe places where you don't have to worry about random general chat things. Also, I'm pretty sure everyone ends up leaving general chat because it's never worth it anyway
@Department81
@Department81 4 года назад
I consumed a lot of the HotS e-sports content. The problem with the current amateur leagues is the lack of organization. The channels that broadcast the competitions are hard to find or disorganized. For example, Khaldor's playlist is just a huge conglomeration of all HotS videos. Where can I find the last week or last tourney in an orderly format?
@kamilnowak9750
@kamilnowak9750 4 года назад
Nope its death
@Aztonio
@Aztonio 4 года назад
@@channelecruteak Welcome on the internet
@hellcopterts8895
@hellcopterts8895 4 года назад
Death of a company: Merge with the greediest money milk corporation you can find.
@enriqueramos2426
@enriqueramos2426 4 года назад
They don't work with EA... or do they?
@MonkeyJazz75
@MonkeyJazz75 4 года назад
Although Blizzard is in a bad place comparatively, you'd have to be truly insane if you think they're a dead company.
@minddtrixxter4983
@minddtrixxter4983 4 года назад
@@MonkeyJazz75 well the "true" blizzard died when they merged, from this point on its just a shell of it former self
@andrewferrer2026
@andrewferrer2026 4 года назад
@@enriqueramos2426 they merged with Activision for a long time. Although they're seperate, there is still Activision Blizzard
@colby1398
@colby1398 4 года назад
@@MonkeyJazz75 Dead in what way? Financially sure, they're fine. As a company that makes games worth playing? Nah, they dead.
@Menleah
@Menleah 3 года назад
Totally addicted to this series.
@esmerylan
@esmerylan 2 года назад
Watching this in June 2021 and I had to laugh when I heard "with Overwatch 2 on the horizon". Yeah, about that... 🤔
@Mincecroft
@Mincecroft 2 года назад
Yeah with all this stuff coming out about Blizzard and apparently Overwatch 2 is being delayed, if the game doesn't come out by this year I doubt it's coming out at all.
@user-hw2tg5bt1d
@user-hw2tg5bt1d 4 года назад
“Activision blizzard” is still so surreal to hear
@Maulwurfx1
@Maulwurfx1 4 года назад
is it? Its been like ten or so years now
@flufychickens
@flufychickens 4 года назад
@@Maulwurfx1 yaa but they didnt start using the term "Activision Blizzard" till past few years.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 4 года назад
Activision-Blizzard: "Now we are one!"
@chesh1re_cat
@chesh1re_cat 4 года назад
I love this game and will keep playing it as long as the servers are running, but this was a great analysis. I've played many MOBA for many years and still think HotS gives the best experience for the casual player
@adriangonzalez3600
@adriangonzalez3600 4 года назад
Team fighting was always the best part of MOBAs for me, and that's what this game excels at. My favorite characters were always good in at least a few different maps, unlike other ones where your favorite character are only good in the most specific of matchups that never occur because the meta forces you to use 10% of the player pool.
@MariaChar
@MariaChar 3 года назад
I was diamond before I switched to league of legends a year ago and all I got to say is that I miss hots cuz that game never made me mad or toxic and I actually chilled playing it . Too bad it died and they didn’t keep putting new stuff into the game.
@weirdtales9590
@weirdtales9590 3 года назад
@@MariaChar But they are putting new stuff in to the game. And the competitive is returned with the CCL (not sponsored by Blizzard for now,but the quality is good)
@michimatsch5862
@michimatsch5862 3 года назад
@@MariaChar The game is still running and they keep adding heroes and things.
@calvinstephenson6232
@calvinstephenson6232 3 года назад
@@MariaChar they just added a brand new hero two weeks ago. I haven’t played in years, but I’ve come back to hots the last couple of months and it’s been fun. Games are as easy to find as ever, and like I said, they just added a new hero “Hogger, a Knole from Warcraft” just a couple weeks ago. Come back if you’re board.
@warwickthekingmaker7281
@warwickthekingmaker7281 3 года назад
Hots was my favourite moba to watch because of the team aspects. I watched every single game of the 2016 or 2015 worlds (the one where cloud 9 won over dignitas in the finals) because I loved seeing teams tackle the very different maps and set up beautiful combos.
@demilung
@demilung 2 года назад
I also played Heroes of the Storm back in Alpha. I remember having a lot of fun with it, Tyrande was my main for a long time. I have nothing to support this, but I feel like their push for eSports and Overwatch characters instead of finally adding Kyle Blackthorne was picturesque of their push for corporate milestones instead of adding care and soul to the game.
@erickienitz1490
@erickienitz1490 4 года назад
"This is stupid. I wish we weren't penguins and that our show wasn't canceled." ~Brak
@pocketheart1450
@pocketheart1450 4 года назад
I played and loved Heroes of the Storm. A lot, on both accounts. After they announced the scaleback though, I admit, I saw no reason to put effort into it anymore and jumped ship. I felt betrayed by Blizzard, and I'm not even an e-sports competitor or anything.
@CraftyArts
@CraftyArts 4 года назад
Yeah that kind of pushed me away and it makes me angry because I tried league of legends and after the tutorial managing items let alone individual leveling just was a nightmare. Basically I'd just be spending time on a forum to figure out the best item leveling slots and then each match taking Twice as long... No thanks.
@MoonHoundHati
@MoonHoundHati 4 года назад
Same here. This game was the first MOBA I ever played and the only one I've played long-term. The sudden and complete cancelation of the Esports scene was incredibly bad for optics, even to someone with little interest in it, like you and I. Combined with the drastic scaling back of the development team and thus content release rate and reduction of it (no more new maps) and the game just feels like it's been left to bleed out slowly. I tried going back for a bit last year, but the game's playerbase felt worse than when I left, with, for example, people in diamond rank not even knowing which lane was the solo lane despite having picked the solo laner. That makes its matchmaking problems even more glaringly obvious than it had been before.
@3dTank
@3dTank 4 года назад
Same, I played it a lot and switched to it from LoL because of a better community and, for me, more fun games on average. But LoL has kept improving and HotS was just abandoned. Seriously, fuck AB. They're as bad as EA and Bethesda (sadly) atm.
@Igneeka
@Igneeka 4 года назад
Same, I've always been playing LoL but didn't expect to enjoy HoTS as much as I did, it was flawed for sure but I loved it as a more casual, simple fun MoBA (along with some really creative characters to play) but massive lack (or rather scarcity) of updates and new content just made me leave, I mean sure it's not dead as it still has a dedicated playerbase, at least it still had one when I left but Blizzard is clearly waiting for the game to die
@renzokuken631
@renzokuken631 4 года назад
Yeah me too. If Activision/Blizzard stopped having faith in the game, why should I continue?
@consonaadversapars
@consonaadversapars Год назад
I still rewatch some of the cinematics. They are so great. I also really liked there can be a MOBA without things like last hitting, for example.
@stuntmonkey00
@stuntmonkey00 2 года назад
Watch this channel's "Death of Warcraft III Reforged" to understand what happened to HotS. The classic team was dissolved and there is hardly any dev time on it any more. The community got ghosted for over 6 months in early 2021. It's clear Blizz doesn't care because they don't update seasonal content, the lifeblood of the game's monetization. Meanwhile, the game's community gets smaller and more incel-like over time as the last diehards circle the wagons. Dunkey's vid was a nice bit of validation, but the game is pretty much abandoned, and has lost any semblance of rank integrity or proper match making.
@codencecoudini
@codencecoudini 4 года назад
I've always liked how NS videos are always like "This game is dying or dead, but why is that? Let's investigate and see if we can conclude something." Whereas other videos are like "This game is dead! It sucks and here is why! Activision did games bad! "
@gamesux420
@gamesux420 4 года назад
Those two statements mean the exact same thing though, they're just worded differently...
@stalinium2020
@stalinium2020 4 года назад
@@gamesux420 not really, both statements have a different mean.
@Kenny833
@Kenny833 4 года назад
Would make sense if he titled it as such instead of claiming the death of it in the title.
@aerieleah533
@aerieleah533 4 года назад
@@gamesux420 not really. By presenting the information the way he does, he didn't force his opinion down the audience's throat. He lets you draw your own conclusions using the same information he used, and there's also a sense of satisfaction of you realize the same things he does based on what he says. Also, the latter statement is just destructive while the former is constructive. Negative versus positive.
@Calx9
@Calx9 4 года назад
@@gamesux420 Ignore everyone else. You are absolutely right. The tone is different but the statement and question is the same.
@user-rv8yv4yh9n
@user-rv8yv4yh9n 4 года назад
I still love HotS, even though i've been avoiding blizzard games. A MOBA that doesn't destroy you if you've fallen behind individually, a higher focus on ability use instead of items, different ways to comeback after a rough earlygame. crying shame what its become.
@speedstorm4923
@speedstorm4923 4 года назад
I disagree with what Richard said, you can still carry the game and be the star of the match. I play mostly DotA nowadays but I have to say that hots has the best hero ideas of all the mobas, where in the hell do you have a hero that is controlled by two players besides hots?
@RSMVreviewer
@RSMVreviewer 4 года назад
@@speedstorm4923 gimmick hero fitting for a casual game like HotS
@Scorbutic
@Scorbutic 4 года назад
That's the problem. You SHOULD get destroyed in a MOBA when you fall behind. That's the point. That's called being bad. That is the incentive to improve. Not having that is what got shitty players in high ranks in this game.
@exploertm8738
@exploertm8738 4 года назад
@@Scorbutic its calling bs balance with no way to comeback. If I am falling behind in first 15 minutes of match then why should I play rest like what, last time I played Dota for example average match was 40 minutes+ long, even more or less one-sided ones. By your logic, if you failing in early game, then just straight disconnect, why bother trying?
@MefoWho
@MefoWho 4 года назад
@@speedstorm4923 name 1 player whos like richard said, a faker-dendi-simple god of the game of hots. Being different doesnt always come with success
@kkplx
@kkplx 2 года назад
aww, seeing richard in one of your videos on a blizzard or riot game... warms my heart. fantastic content, thank you
@thisguy2948
@thisguy2948 3 года назад
Yo I hope you are still making videos man. I love them and need more. Much love. Hope everything is good
@leeh1ful
@leeh1ful 4 года назад
the xmas event is still going....4 months later. total maintenence mode
@amirhayek821
@amirhayek821 4 года назад
? It has been the toy event for over a month now for europeans.
@barbarus30
@barbarus30 4 года назад
Sad but true 🥺
@DracoDatura
@DracoDatura 4 года назад
@@amirhayek821 The toy event IS the xmas event Sadly they abandoned this game so much, there are no people to maintain these simple event updates :((
@Aztonio
@Aztonio 4 года назад
@@DracoDatura twitter.com/ghallahad/status/1245589805141856256?s=19
@amirhayek821
@amirhayek821 4 года назад
@@DracoDatura really? omg.. :(
@Riitje
@Riitje 4 года назад
Despite all this it's still my favorite MOBA, but that might be because I don't like the genre all that much.
@adrian-ioanmunteanu3027
@adrian-ioanmunteanu3027 Год назад
Blizzard announced that the project will no longer receive any major updates and will enter maintenance mode. RIP
@sunso1991
@sunso1991 2 года назад
the match making is really really annoying, for years i played to do my best and try to win every game after figuring out the match making pretty much guarantees you to lose after some wins i played Grommash after i win, throwing allies to death and saving enemy for fun, so i lose and can get back to more serious games. the system made me do it~
@nadiab1197
@nadiab1197 4 года назад
yet hots is still the only moba game that I love to keep playing
@terreausore2435
@terreausore2435 4 года назад
Because it is basically "The game where everyone wins" : no farming, no incentive to play good, no snowball, no optimal build to creat per character. Aka moba for snowflakes.
@Apasus1
@Apasus1 4 года назад
@@terreausore2435 you can easily snowball as a team, you clearly haven't played the game. Theres also a lot of variety in builds depending on what your team needs. I would say hots have MORE build variety than league of legends since you get to pick between 2 ultis.
@Nickins
@Nickins 4 года назад
Imagine taking a game designed in a way where people are incentivised to work together and saying it's "for snowflakes" because you don't rage quit every other match like a little baby like they do in lol and dota
@Barbell_Neptune
@Barbell_Neptune 4 года назад
@@Apasus1 thats it? just by having 2 ultis? what about LOL's thousands of item builds?
@Nickins
@Nickins 4 года назад
@@Barbell_Neptune thousands of item builds and only 1-2 meta ones, which anyway do not change your gameplay in any meaningful way
@JustDoIt12131
@JustDoIt12131 4 года назад
26:27 "Trying to get an appropriate team composition, and then praying your teamates were willing to work together even if that was the point of the game, made for many frustrating experiences" This is the key. The gamer comunity's view of *team* games is absolutely corrupted: they think what makes a good player is to stand out among your team, when actually what makes a good player in a *team* game is to cooperate with your team. They would prefer to sacrify their team so they don't die rather than dying to make their team survive and win the teamfight. They think as an individual instead of as a team. The problem is the comunity. It's as simple as that. Heroes of the Storm is much more a team game than dota 2 or LoL. That's precisely why so many players have problems with it.
@francka.4174
@francka.4174 4 года назад
You don't have to go that far. Without even talking about " taking one for the team " people ain't even able to do a camp together 30 secs before going on the first objective most of the time (at least in QM) and fight blindly with their brains turned off (if they do have one, which at a certain point can be questioned). Solo laning ? Most of them don't even know what it is and for many playing in a team means be always together. What heroes are more suited for it ? They have no idea. And the list goes on and on. That simple sentence u quote summarize most of my experience of this game. Some may think differently but in my opinion the only way to really enjoy this game is with mates you already know, not with random people.
@DougMarv
@DougMarv 4 года назад
@@francka.4174 sigh I hate those noobs on QM, I mean seriously the players on this game are the most noobs I ever seem. Specially on Brazil server, where majority not even are brazilians(we speak portuguese) but other south Americans that speak Spanish
@Aganie.
@Aganie. 4 года назад
IzexJorge even if you’re in a game losing too you can just have a laner pusher and win the game thats also super tedious as you can just do that in pretty much any game
@suthiraksb
@suthiraksb 4 года назад
Choosing Ana and got Genji + Hanzo in team = GGEZ. Unless they know to stop for healing.
@DougMarv
@DougMarv 4 года назад
@@suthiraksb OW heroes r very broken and fun I love them xD
@PizzaWormLight
@PizzaWormLight Год назад
Seeing TotalBisuit's name in the footage made me smile
@myway7367
@myway7367 3 года назад
HOTS competing with Dota 2 is like Ned Flanders picking a fight with the T-1000.
@creativecredence850
@creativecredence850 3 года назад
Agreed, one game is actually fun and the other one has a turn speed
@LinkheyLC
@LinkheyLC 4 года назад
I am also a alpha player of HoTs and I still play it to this day. It's a fun game, I enjoy it far more than LoL which I also play. I suggest anyone who hasn't played it to give it a shot
@ShinYamiZakura
@ShinYamiZakura 4 года назад
Started during Beta, and enjoyed a lot playing Tyrande and Valla (I mean, who doesn't like shooting arrows in a Blizzard game, the animations feel so smooth) but I don't really play anymore (no king rules forever, and most of the people I used to play with have moved on since then). I don't know if it was the playerbase being more welcoming or the game being new and fresh with everyone knowing they were definitely no gods, but the amount of flame was really WAY lower than in LoL at the time when I used to play.
@phetmanonline
@phetmanonline 4 года назад
i was also an alpha player as well. turned this shit game it off and deleted from hard drive the moment I had my FOTS on wow retail account
@KarkatTheEternal
@KarkatTheEternal 4 года назад
For me its a game you play for 3 days with party of friends to never see it again in 3 months. As my main game is Dota 2 i just feel that playing hots somehow serious is waste of time and the impact im making in game is minimal. In Dota 2 you can learn someting new every match even with 3.5k hours in.Which is impossible in Hots.
@LinkheyLC
@LinkheyLC 4 года назад
@@KarkatTheEternal valid. Unfortunately when I say I still play it is maybe like 10 games a month lol very casual about it
@KarkatTheEternal
@KarkatTheEternal 4 года назад
@@LinkheyLC Yeah i think the game is good for this and should stay :)
@atlas3079
@atlas3079 4 года назад
My favourite moment in heroes of the storm was around the release of cho'gall, a hero which essentially had you bring one of your 4 team-mates along in a backpack, casting spells while you controlled the moment. It was some of the most fun I've had in a Dota-style game, making co-op essential and fun. I remember hearing that HotS could become the "mario-kart" of MOBA, and I really love the sound of that. It's unfortunate that blizz seemed to just want in on the big eSports money-pie.
@DogginsFroggins
@DogginsFroggins 4 года назад
I remember playing him with friends over skype CAST CAST WHAT ARE YOU DOING11111!!
@danielzboy
@danielzboy 4 года назад
This analogy of HOTS being the "Mario Kart" of MOBA is pretty fitting... It's like, LoL and DOTA could be Sony and XBox, 2 giants battling it out with the best, and HOTS could just be Nintendo: casual, fun, excelling in its own capabilities and never attempting to be what it isn't. Not the best comparison I know...
@H41030v3rki110ny0u
@H41030v3rki110ny0u 4 года назад
My brother and I still play HOTS and play Cho'gall pretty often... so fun, and unlike any hero in any MOBA game.
@RoundBaguette
@RoundBaguette 3 года назад
Dead? Bro I'm still playing
@sparxtheknight
@sparxtheknight 3 года назад
I know...it’s the only MOBA I play now (I do miss DawnGate tho)
@Skellytor27
@Skellytor27 3 года назад
Same here and its not like the que times are super long like.... isnt that a sign of life for this game?
@station992
@station992 3 года назад
Alone. With npc... congratulation.
@peppermint7152
@peppermint7152 2 года назад
I tried HotS for perhaps a dozen games when it game out. By this point, I'd already been playing League of Legends, which made hopping to a new MOBA a hard sell. Things I liked: - Lots of maps and objectives to mix up gameplay. - Choosing hero powers as you level up was really interesting compared to league's (at the time) more static item system. - Great overall aesthetic. Things I disliked: - Much simpler than League of Legends at its core. While this might not have bothered me if I played HotS first, going from LoL to HotS felt like an unnecessary dumbing down of the gameplay loop. - Too team-oriented, much less room to solo carry. I felt like I had much less agency than I did in League of Legends, and it was much harder to realize that fantasy of carrying a deadweight team to victory. I feel HotS' relative late release combined with its too-team-oriented nature doomed it as a competitor to LoL and DotA2. It might've sound some success as a more casual friendly alternative, but it didn't make sense to bill it as an esport.
@doctorsnakeeater1997
@doctorsnakeeater1997 4 года назад
God, such a shame cuz in concept, Heroes of the Storm looks SO cool.
@marlowencna
@marlowencna 4 года назад
It is cool to play. Specially with friends. It is also a horrible "hardcore" esport game.
@smonkk8556
@smonkk8556 4 года назад
its incredibly fun too. such a shame
@KVPMD
@KVPMD 4 года назад
@@marlowencna We have a croud funded eSports scene by now with Heroes Lounge division S. The Playoffs just ended and at least in europe it was a lot of fun. I at least do prefer the team focus OR the solo focus of SC2. I can't stand LoL to look at. We get new heroes every new season, by now that are quarters. The next should be in April so I expect the next hero to be announced soon. I think the most important part was at the end: HotS was not sustainable. It was to fast as it started late. They had to get up in heroes to counter the champion pool of LoL or DotA2. We had times with a new hero every 3 weeks. It was insane. They had to much work for sure, it was nearly impossible to stay up to date as a player. If you had a holiday and maybe some work stuff and came back 2 month later there were 3-4 new heroes, totally shifted meta... On the other side the massive additoins + eSports made it impossible to balance. It was really a mess. Now the game has slowed down. We have lots of heroes and maps. We have 1 new hero, about 2-3 major reworks + 1-4 minor reworks per quarter. The game is rally solid at the moment. Hope next seasons brings another hero as expected and we keep having fun and eSports keeps growing slowly. So... come, test it. All heroes usable for free at the moment (corona) by the way.
@vitorborges807
@vitorborges807 4 года назад
Idk. It always felt way too simplified to me. It kinda misses the main point of this kind of game. It's more of a party game to play with your buds than anything really competitive.
@KVPMD
@KVPMD 4 года назад
​@@vitorborges807 Maybe different people have different points for a game. They classified as a hero brawler (instead of MOBA) at the start and this had a reason. This game is a lot more about team coordination, desicions and and (5man) fighting. Groups of 3 or more moving on the map are common even in the first 5 minutes. On the other hand mechnical things like last hitting is missing. This causes feedback problems. You can't compare as good as in other games. XP is really important but there are different ways to get it and it is really hard to say if you should stay in lane, gank heroes, get a camp (jungle in other games) or help others. Even in pro play you see massive XP gain differences. Laubers FC is currently the best I have ever seen in this. The game is so more flexible. There is no jungler in your team. There are good heroes for camps but it can be Meele, Bruiser, Ranged, Mages or even Healer. This makes it a mess in low ELO / MMR and make the games match making feel bad. Some can get a camp in between 2 lane waves.
@nekowatt5945
@nekowatt5945 4 года назад
The biggest and most fascinating reason why I always watch your DOAG videos is that I have either played or at least been involved in some way with these games. Marvel Heroes, Gotham City Impostors, Hawken, Gigantic, Wildstar, Paragon, Dirty Bomb, etc. and now HoTS. I've damn played them and it's so interesting learn all about what happened to these games that have cultivated a significant part of my life..
@1337-Nathaniel
@1337-Nathaniel 4 года назад
Oh.. My.. God... YOU killed the games! It all makes sense!
@nekowatt5945
@nekowatt5945 4 года назад
@@1337-Nathaniel Haha lol, to be fair not every game I touched became a trainwreck. In fact a lot of these games had potential (Paragon, Dirty Bomb, Gigantis, HoTS) and the fact that they were free gave me nothing to lose. I just wanted a fresh free game that isn't LoL, DoTA, Smite and TF2 but every one of these just didn't come out well.
@erikthegreek1049
@erikthegreek1049 4 года назад
This guy is making videos about all the games i played when i was young. Kinda depressing.
@Pike27
@Pike27 2 года назад
Are you planning on doing a Heroes of Newerth video? I'd love to watch one.
@davids5195
@davids5195 4 года назад
I'm still actively playing and loving the game, and we're still receiving very frequent balance patches and updates. So, it's still quite alive for me!
@HeIsDreaMe
@HeIsDreaMe 2 года назад
But still a trash match making system. Lol. Game is garbage, I had to ditch it
@sirrismendozasunlessrealms5775
@sirrismendozasunlessrealms5775 2 года назад
@@HeIsDreaMe As a new player, I got matched against level 1,000. But it didn´t stop from winning games, it is a team effort after all.
@HeIsDreaMe
@HeIsDreaMe 2 года назад
@@sirrismendozasunlessrealms5775 Play a real great, you'll understand. The match making is fucked, frankly you get too many people who don't give a fuck. Making a sole team based game boring as fuck. I can go carry in LoL with newbs who don't give a shit. HotS, not as easily. The game is dead, throw in the fucking laat nail already.
@msjfhbvgyu1371
@msjfhbvgyu1371 2 года назад
@@HeIsDreaMe bitch the only reason you can carry in LoL it’s because Lol it’s not a teamwork game but more of a “if I gain enough experience and buy all the right items I can kill everyone in the enemy team alone” so shut up
@jamesedwards2751
@jamesedwards2751 4 года назад
This was a great video. As someone who has played HoTS since the open beta, it's so sad to see the direction the game has taken.
@ieasy12
@ieasy12 2 года назад
5:15 Warfield? No, that is Sergent Hammer, thank you. A fine lady, with a fine machine.
@Lucario997
@Lucario997 2 года назад
There were so many massive changes that, for me, completely turned me away from a game that I really enjoyed. While I eventually got used to the removal of ammo in the towers, that was one of the first big changes that told me that Blizzard wasn't afraid to make major disruptions in how the game was played. I was a huge enjoyer of characters that had a high skill ceiling, but were incredibly fun and rewarding to play when played well. My most played characters prior to 2.0 were Murky and Abathur. Eventually, the entire specialist role was removed, and when both of those characters got reworked, their skill ceiling was drastically lowered, and it no longer felt like I was playing fun, unique characters with ample risk and reward. There are certain characters that have been completely broken and useless since the removal of cannon ammo, and especially since the removal of specialists, like The Lost Vikings. But with characters being nerfed into oblivion for years, or left entirely unplayable just due to raw numbers, I've lost hope that even the infrequent patches will manage to make the game fun to play again.
@nobalkain624
@nobalkain624 4 года назад
This was the only Esports I watch, and was rather sad when they shut it down.
@mvrsts
@mvrsts 4 года назад
Man, I still play this with my friends It's sad to see how this game turned out, cause i like the fact that this is a more casual moba I'm a competitive person, but i cant put 6 hours a day keeping up with the more famous mobas. I'm not 15 anymore. This was a nice balence for me
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 Год назад
Come to think of it, i think this game (and to a lesser extent, Overwatch) suffered the most from Blizzards former branding as THE eSports developer. You might say HOTS wasn't fit as an eSport, and that might even be correct, but people were expecting a Blizzard game to always incorporate an eSport format in some way. Starcraft hardly needs mentioning but even Wow had for the longest time a competetive PvP ladder with tournaments that drew in decent crowds (which is hilarious considering how unbalanced Wow PvP always was) and they had kicked the idea of a PvP arena multiplayer for Diablo 3 around too, but ultimately scrapped that entirely. It was simply part and parcel of their brand. That perception only changed when the OWL was crashing and burning by Kotick alledgedly personally forcing the OWL to elevate itself on the same level of national sports like football or american football. Because HOTS has a lot of unexpected strengths that you won't see in other mobas. The emphasis on teamplay means that the game is infinitely less toxic to play, as singular bad players wouldn't drag your whole team down and fed enemy carries wouldn't dominate a game in a way that just makes every game where you aren't decisively winning just a miserable experience. Add to this that the general champion design in HOTS, built around this idea made sure that there was no singularly broken champ that could dominate the game for weeks, whereas champs in League by now get progressively more broken and harder to integrate into the base game without breaking anything on the way.
@beageler
@beageler 11 месяцев назад
HotS was the best MOBA for me, without question. I'm bad enough in HotS, I'm hopeless in other MOBAS. As soon as I heard that there was no last hitting I knew it was the best on the market. And if it survives with some updates sometimes (who cares about new heroes once the stable is big enough), that is exactly what I need. I play games because they're fun for me. I don't care about tournaments I'll never watch, I don't care if it's too simple for people are good at last hitting (and can handle playing so one of the team can do stuff, while they only help).
@borga6566
@borga6566 4 года назад
Despite everything, I still love this game and will keep playing it.
@amonnoma1370
@amonnoma1370 4 года назад
Same much better than other mobas.
@TG-ge1oh
@TG-ge1oh 4 года назад
I'm afraid one of these days they'll just shut down the servers... They even stopped doing events after dragging the last one till April. You can see Blizzard's lack of love dripping all over it.
@Doncroft1
@Doncroft1 4 года назад
@@TG-ge1oh I don't think they will. Blizzard's never shut down one of their big titles before like you say. Why would they?
@SailorMoonkin
@SailorMoonkin 4 года назад
i see u have a horde icon there for the horde! :D
@Leo-pr7ly
@Leo-pr7ly 4 года назад
@@TG-ge1oh they stop loving their games, Starcraft II is also on pure maintain mode, all new stuff have to be paid for, not even new portraits or archievements added. And the bad WCIII remastered. Activision burned it down. CD Project Red is the new hope.
@Zippyd00da132
@Zippyd00da132 4 года назад
1:17 Pour one out for Lost Vikings.
@djoakeydoakey1076
@djoakeydoakey1076 4 года назад
Best XP soakers in the game IMO. OP when they first came out.
@DogginsFroggins
@DogginsFroggins 4 года назад
Godamn they were busted when they launched, if you were up against a good viking player you basically always lost due to level disadvantage.
@theshinken
@theshinken 4 года назад
Loved playing those. They were garbage tier because of no buffs for years to support them while the rest of the cast got patched monthly, crazy high skill required to play them correctly and being very, very situational, only working on half of the map pool while almost useless on the other half. Friends and teammates alike dreaded the times I picked them. But when they work and you get that XP train rolling, it feels so rewarding and awesome! Always loved to play them for that chance. Also, the few times Hasuobs actually picked them in professional games - those moments were so hype!
@elonwhatever
@elonwhatever 10 месяцев назад
Blizzard just never understood the game it made. Hots could totally have a spot in a crowded market as the one moba where players of different mobas came to play together. Because hots was easy to get into, mechanics are easier, matches are shorter, etc. But if you want to corner that niche you cannot charge money per hero. You cannot pump resources to try and artificially create an e-sports scene. And you have to accept your players will be very interested in doing quests and dailies for your game.
@hypolyxa7207
@hypolyxa7207 3 года назад
TotalBiscuit... :(
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