Death of a Game: Outriders 

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"Always online single player" is a rocketship for disaster.

My main gripe was the cutscene FOR LITERALLY ANY ACTION. You wanna cross that bridge cutscene you wanna go through this crack in the wall cutscene it was maddening.

You REALLY should've mentioned one of the most infamous thing this game is known for. For 2 week's, it had one of the worst loot resets glitch ever seen in a looter.

Great stuff as usual! However....I feel there are a couple of things you missed out on, that *actually* led to Outriders dying out. PCF inability to balance the game properly, manage community feedback and straight up bugs. - Early on, there was a bug that literally erased players progress. This took 1-2weeks to fix, which led to a really crappy ambient within the community and it's playerbase. A Looter shooter where you might lose all your loot "randomly" ( it was due to connectivity/sync issues when joining someone else's game ) - was not worth playing. - Exploits were rampart, which led to a good amount of people to simple exploit the Bounty Quests and get a lot of legendaries for little to no effort. To make matters worse, their fix was to nerf the BH Quest and leave it at that. It was only *after* the community uproar of some exploiting and getting stuff, while others ended up sucking on their thumbs, that PCF actually provided "compensation" for it. - Balance Patches. The very first patch was a CARPET BOMB NERF FIESTA of *everything* players were actually enjoying. People wanted more options, and instead, they were left with less. The dissatisfaction from the playerbase was visceral on this, which prompted PCF to be a lot more careful in the future ( narrator : They ended up doing it again ), concerning balance. - Patch schedule. Due to their own release and cadence, major patches ended up being deployed near the end of the week. Added with some Bank Holidays in between, and major bugs ( progression being lost, as mentioned ; Quests not updating and preventing people from advancing ... etc.. ) - this was another contributing factor for the community anger. We were left with a broken product, due to PCF "peacing out" for the holidays ( which was the release window THEY chose ). - End game was *universally* hated, as it ended up being all about Expeditions and to make matters worse, TIMED expeditions. This was the straw that broke the camel back - as players loved a lot of the story missions, but saw those get nerfed ("adjusted") to favour Expedition loop gameplay. From day 1, players hated the Timed expeditions, as they were ridiculous and incentivized a specific playstyle ( Firepower, with "rounds", essentially infinite firing capacity ). Then, due to the nerfs, ANOMALY based builds, were left completely rotting, which means there wasn't any variety on the endgame, either on builds or content choice. - NPCs/Monsters being broken. People were getting one shot. Left and right. This led to a massive division between the playerbase, which by then was NOT having fun anymore, and PCF. Where PCF kept throwing dirt to people eye's, saying everything was fine, when the playerbase kept popping videos proving that no, it was NOT fine. After 2-3 weeks intense debate between the community and PCF - they still refused to admit something was wrong, but implemented (lol) some "insurances" to prevent instant death from happening. The fact that the playerbase had to *again*, mobilize to show PCF that we were NOT enjoying something, and that we would NOT, in fact, eat shit - left once again, a sour taste in the playerbase mouth. By then, the constant FIGHTS/Battles against PCF from the community, had left the game barren. People had enough of constantly having to fight over little things, and beg for simple QoL stuff. PCF Handled everything poorly, from start to finish. Cue Worldslayer. People were excited, until....It was revealed as a paid expansion. and a 40/50e one at that! A lot of "us" complained, but there was nothing to be done. Most veterans gave them another chance, despite hating the fact we were being sold something that should've been free, or at the very most - 15e or so. Nothing really changed from the base game in the end. More bugs, less content overall - same endgame. The game died, because PCF never intended it to succeed. At least not at the scale it did. They tried to support it, but they had no idea what to do with the unexcepted success, so they fumbled and dropped the ball systematically. What still rubs me off the wrong way, was their arrogance in implementing constant changes that went directly against player feedback or enjoyment. So, I hope this helps to shed a bit more light, on a product that should've been 30e, maybe 60e with Worldslayer included.

I spent alot of time playing Outriders, and my biggest grief was the low inventory space & lack of load outs to make it easier to swap & try new builds.

I am quite surprised you did not mention other widely covered problems with the game, such as the infamous Inventory Wipe glitch, where players would log in and have 0 items. Such a glitch in a game based on loot collecting is something that makes sure people don’t want to play it.

They should make this game offline, and give the community mod tools. With some luck, some modders gonna be interested, and they could rebalance the game, introduce more variety in weapons and skills, and even maps and missions. Wait... That's what I dream for The Division 2, nvm.

Outriders. A game I actually really liked. Beat, platinumed, and then never crossed my mind again.

I think a lot of the games early playbase was a result of Covid lockdowns. Lots of people were still at home looking to make time pass. I didn't really even know about the game until I saw in on Twitch during launch. Some streamers said it was alright so I, like many gave it a shot. Probably my biggest gripe in the whole thing was the story plot around Seth. He was built up as this big powerful, enigmatic character early in the game only to be offed a few hours later in the story.

I loved Outriders. Played it constantly. And then *BAM* People Can Fly flushed it down the toilet with all those bugs and bs nerfs. I could understand the quick nerfs IF this was player vs player. If the players are engaged with running through the A.I with all these different builds then let it be. What made it worse was not bringing nerfs to the A.I being overpowered in that same swiftly manner that they did to the players. It's just sad to see. I would love to see what they could do with a clean slate and make Outriders 2. Dedicated servers and using Unreal Engine 5. A new game director that knows what they're doing long-term and not just for the short moment after launch. Building off what worked and learning from their mistakes. We may never get to see that happen.

Remember getting to endgame and then getting my character glitched and rendered unplayable for weeks until I got my char back but with diffeently rolled items. Good times

When I was playing this, I saw a response from their community manager that infuriated me so much... The manager said that "the armor bug did not exist" in the game and the players simply "did not understand the mechanic", so bugs went without fixing while the drop rates were nerfed

To everyone watching this now: if you have one or two friends to play with, give this thing a chance. I played it with a friend just this year and we couldn't understand the mixed reviews, not knowing about the broked launch. We played the whole thing coop (including the DLC) and had an absolute blast, one of the best coop experiences we had. The gameplay was satisfying and the story was best described as "dumb fun". Honestly, give the thing a chance if you haven't already.

genuinely makes me sad because this game is STILL fun for me to play every now and then. the transmog system is the best i've seen. i can change my drip MID COMBAT, along with any skills, weapons, ability trees, etc, all mid combat if I wanted to. the ability swapping freedom for guns where i can turn them into lasers, volcano bots, tornado spitters, elemental/status guns on top of w/e other status gun build, and the same freedom for gear as well. this game has such a good base and all they ever really needed to do, was make a roadmap to get themselves on track for consistent updates. take the acar spider they added that felt like a legit raid and add more of those. add new expeditions. make the game monetizable with weapon skins, character skins, truck skins, etc etc. this feels like genshin impact the way they put so much effort into things that could easily be endgame, and say fuck it we want story driven casual shit.

Outriders, a game that i can only describe as a gem so in the rough that is almost indistinguishable from a rock. The combat was enjoyable for a bit but damn it falls hard after a while.

i think the funniest thing about the game is that the symbol for the game a damn compass, yet they failed to at least include cardinal directions/symbols on the minimap, which would have been VERY helpful considering the map was static. knowing which direction was north/south is a big deal in any game.

I loved this game, shame it died out but after the main campaign I didn't feel much to keep playing. The main campaign was excellent however, the scifi story felt like watching a space epic.

I really, really loved this game. It had so much potential for longevity and they just let it fall through. The story was actually pretty interesting with some unexpected twists but the end-game was where things dropped off a cliff. If you had a solid group of friends to play with, it was really fun. Though, if you had more than 2 other friends playing it, you'd often have someone get really frustrated about it being only 3 players instead of 4. The bugs were utterly obnoxious, including people losing their entire inventory of hard-earned legendary weapons/gear. There is something inherently wrong with your title when an early-game pre-order rifle was part of one of the best end-game builds... I tried playing it again after having left it for about 8 months and honestly, I think I was seeing the game through rose-tinted glasses the first time. Everything wrong with it stood out like a sore thumb and there was zero interest in continuing. I also opted to skip the expansion because I was just so "meh" about it. If they had opted to make it a live-service, people would probably still be playing it....

Awesome as always, but this is being very very kind about the technical state of the game launch. Like when they patched their game and deleted half the player bases progress, then the patch to fix that hit them all again and fixed nothing. It basically had 99% of the bad of an online service, and no meaningful upside. I also recall the game pass launch being substantially offset from the retail launch, so it not only fealt like the full price customers were beta testers - they'd mostly all given up by the time the game pass launch spiked the numbers. It seems so silly to get most of the hard part right (it's a good game, when it's working!) and then flub the easier bit. Square actually kept the rights out of their recent western games sell off, so someone thought it had ongoing potential.

I love all the work you put in. It’s great to see somebody collect all the info and put it together post Mortem.

This game was the poster child for "“If you try to please everyone you'll please no one.”

I had tons of fun with this game, even the harsh grind could not stop me from playing it. From all "Looter Shooter" Outriders has the best ways to build your own build. Most people just played it like it was a standart "Borderlands-Esque-Shooter", while it is in fact more like an Action-RPG.

They had the audacity to bring out a dlc and re-release the game+dlc for the full 60€ price after 1.5 years.. if that is not utterly greed, i don't know what is.

the moment the game labelled as "Destiny Killer" tent to be dying very fast lol

Outrider was a fun game (with some flaws),but should have not been always online. With a focus on solo play/coop, the game could have put more ressource into his different flaws (lack of enemies variety, skill tree that only give numerical bonus and no power modification, etc).

The game felt like a live service game that they didn't want to get locked into supporting. It was like "hey guys this game might die haha, just be aware :)"

Outriders had such potential but even from the start once you beat the campaign the actual endgame was just a circular grind that was not fun and actually punished you for trying to advance. Also, the gameplay marketing was off target... it was clearly designed to be a GoW cover based shooter. The design changed but the mechanics didn't so they just punished you for using cover instead of running in circles. I do think Outriders has a good shot of being a successful sequel if developed.

I really like this game a lot :( I finished the main story, and then the expansion and enjoyed both. I just wish the end game was larger. I got the top gear pretty quickly and then there was really nothing else to do.

The game had tons of potential in my opinion. The base game was too short and the expansion wasn't bad either but also felt too short. I really did enjoy the game, wish there was more.

i tired out the demo after a coworker recommended it, and was immediatly hooked and bought, and i clocked in maybe 25 hours before some bug made me loose ALL of my gear. I got it back and tried to get into the game again, i also tried making another character, but i just felt burned and angry by them, and couldnt really get into again. A real shame, apart from it being faaaaar to hard than it needed to be, i actually enjoyed myself

how could they make the claim this wasn't a "games as a service" game when it did everything like all of them do

I am glad People Can Fly gave people a demo to play. I watched many What happened videos on Matt McMuscles channel. Usually, game developers just tell their fans to be patient.

I felt like this was a fine game when playing with friends, but the balance between classes could be seen in the end game. If you played the Tank guy (earth one - forgot the name) you just get kicked if you was in pub game because of the dps check he lacked (changed in future update where they removed the time limit) . But after the plat, I just stopped. I wished the end game had a grind worth doing other than difficulty lvl and gear score. something to show off that was rewarding.

I've little interest in the on-line play but have been enjoying the single player experience. It's quite well done.

When are these developers realize they have to go free to play for live service games. No one wants to pay a $60/$70 admission fee to a broken game at launch that has to be improved over the course of 2 years

This game was real neat. I played a small amount of it. Unfortunately it didn’t go past “neat”, and the fact that I couldn’t play it with my group of four really killed it. I wish they’d stop limiting games to 3 player teams!

This game helped me realize what "People Can Fly" really meant as a studio - garbage. This was one of the first games I've purchased that I genuinley feel ripped off. PCF games are dead to me going forward - they've earned that.

I actually really like this game! I played a ton of this for few months when it came out. I really like the story of this game it's a bit generic but I like the action hero vibe of the protag, the lore is pretty decent but when the expansion came out I didn't even try (hopefully someday) because I'm so burn out and hearing it's gonna be pretty much same.

When I played outriders and world slayer I was one of the few that actually loved it. It’s crafting and modding of weapons, great gameplay loop and the best transmog system I’ve ever seen were really good. However when I got to the endgame content and while it was fun for a time I started asking “is that it?” When world slayer came out with a new peice of endgame content I was excited and I had a good time unfortunately it didn’t last because instead of asking if that was it I asked “what new thing am I doing all this farming for?” Once I realized nothing new was coming I immediately stopped my farming and uninstalled cause if pcf stopped caring about this game why should I give it anymore time? While I have my problems with borderlands they still care about their titles enough to pay attention to their main one and give out golden keys for 2,3 and wonderlands to keep people coming back to their old content. If pcf gave this game the care it needed it would’ve been on par with the likes of division, destiny even borderlands. Probably won’t happen but I hope if outriders 2 ever comes out they’ll be able to get it right this time cause they have the makings of an awesome game here.

There is something to note about Outriders that I think is hugely important: the DEMO. Before Outriders, I maybe had 2 demos in my library. Now, I have 70+. PCF and Outriders showed devs and publishers that a good demo is a huge bonus that will sell the game, not a detriment.

I have over 100 hours in this game and you missed one of the causes for death. When they released Worldslayer if you upgraded you could no longer play with people that didn't own the Worldslayer version even if you were doing base game content. Splitting the player base is never a good move. I upgraded to Worldslayer but none of my friends did and several asked me if I would run thru the base campaign with them again if they reinstalled the game and I had to tell them not to bother because I can't play with non Worldslayer players anymore cuz the game won't let me. Also I firmly believe the Worldslayer version should have been released as a $20 expansion not $40. Also if the game was meant to just be a good campaign with looter elements they really needed to pump the legendary drop rate. If you come across 2 legendaries by the time you beat it, including the 1 guaranteed legendary drop, you did better than 3 of my 4 characters. The legendary armors and weapons can really change how the game is played and your character is played but if you only have a single legendary by the end you didn't even get to explore the fun builds the game had to offer, which for me was the whole draw of the game.

Let's not forget about the bug where you get all your items deleted, it happened to most of my friends when we started the game together at the start .

I remember two things about this game: calling it "Dirty Hipster Destiny" after seeing the first trailer, and someone on my discord server fighting me about how much better than Destiny it was when I called it that after it released. Now here we are.

They advertised the game as "Not an online service." Yet ran the game as an online game as service complete with terrible server issues. Monster Hunter World proves you can have an offline singleplayer game with seamless online coop playability.

This is a game that my friends and I were all extremely excited for, and by the time we had all beaten it, we decided that it was to be referred to as "The Game That Shall Not Be Named" because of how burned we were by it. That April 1st release date ended up being pretty ironic.

I enjoyed Outriders, as a Gears like Borderlands game. Needed to be played with others for the most part to be fun But something that stopped myself playing not mentioned in the video was the (really) poor update patches Each patch fixed 1 bug, then added 5. And the final straw for me was the armour bug that would have you get 1 shotted randomly

My buddy and I finally jumped back in since getting stuck in a boss fight glitch when it launched. So that's +2 players right there!

From what I played, I firmly believe that PCF had no idea what they wanted Outriders to really be. It felt like it was a mishmash looter-shooters that was popular at the time. But ripped out the live service component when they realize that a lot of people are not tired of it

Loved Outriders. I really did hurt when I noticed that I had run out of reasons to keep playing. Once again, another case of poor decisions and wasted potential.

as a Day 1 buyer, I remember I couldn't login to the servers to play the game for a few days.

Regardless I still had fun and it was still worth the money. This was a game that played pretty well and a story that was at least somewhat interesting. I'd wager their support tapered off because they knew there was no point and I'd be inclined to agree, no updates would bring be back because I sorta had my fun with it and dipped. Hopefully their next project will be a good one because they have some serious talent in that studio, companies of 3000 people sometimes struggle to pump out a game like this.

I feel like this game is a pretty good example of how the illusion of permanent support that live service titles build on is basically meth for publishers. It gives those games a massive high early on and then eventually becomes excessively costly and hard to maintain. Many games would have had an easier time turning a profit had they been designed as single-release, offline-capable titles instead of live service games. Outriders, then, is the "I can quit any time I want" of that metaphor.

Here is why it died they made a Live Service game (when it comes to gameplay and story and potential) and said "you know what lets NOT treat it as such ... but you still have to be always online also no modding tools" and now they are like "What do you mean our game failed? you said you dont like live service games"

I actually enjoyed my time with this game. Main issue is PCF don't know how to keep it alive. I can only grind the same endgame dungeon so many times before I'm bored out of my brains. They needed variety in the endgame and I think it would've lasted much longer.

Let me tell you. When you're someone that recently quit playing Destiny, the last thing you wanna play is more Destiny. These games will continue to cannibalize one another because of that.

I completely forgot this game existed and atthe same time am shocked it gets a death of the game already, it feels so recent still

It really sucks because they created this interesting new world to explore further but they just abandoned it instead. I really wanted to this game evolve further.

i saw this game, went "whats this?", played the introduction, then unistalled to make room for other games. Fast forward to now. I see this video, i go "whats this?" see the video and go "ooooooooh, that thing"

I had really high hopes for this game. They were very open to discussion prior to launch, the beta was really good, the launch was really good. Then they went back on everything they ever said. They talked about how they didn't want to be like other games where builds get nerfed, they wanted players to be able to become overpowered. But then the first patch nerfed a lot of builds into the ground, rather than buffing other builds to be in line. They said they wouldn't be a live service, and that they weren't going to have any major dlc. Then they drop Worldslayer. It always takes them a ton of time with little communication to fix the mistakes they introduced into the game post launch. End game was also super toxic at launch with the missions being a speedrun making 90% of builds just not usable. Devastators just not able to get groups at all for months. Also boss variety was weak for a game like this, having to fight the main boss like 3 times over. They couldn't seem to decide how fast or slow they wanted gear progression to be and kept going back and forth on it. This was a great game made by some talented people that was ruined by weird decisions from the devs. After about 200 hours in I just decided I'd rather go play Warframe.

A major problem I had was the game felt over tuned when playing solo. The AI was designed to over whelm you. So you had what looked and controlled like a cover shooter that punished you for playing it like a cover shooter. So the game felt like it basically had one play style. Hyper aggressive. And since most players are solo players, this meant the game just didn’t feel fun. This was part of that doubling down that many reviewers talked about with the latest expansion. Having a game tuned more for coop play and feeling overtuned for solo play chases off the largest group of players that could have supported the game post release. On Xbox the achievement for just reaching lvl 10 is only at 42%. Players just didn’t think the game was worth sticking around for. And they never gave it a second chance.

I honestly wish they had followed a similar format to Borderlands 1 stand alone game and a handful of story based dlcs and on to the next game, I think making it always online as a half baked live service was the games undoing it set expectations they never intended to meet

I think you also missed one major issue that occurred early on. The infamous inventory game breaking bug, which i think happened a week or two into the launch. Players would get disconnected, and log on to see all of their gear and much of their progress lost. It was so bad that the solution was just not to play it until it got patched. I know for me that killed the game early on, so much that I didn't end up coming back to finish the story until this year.

I mean, it has about 16 thousand players a day, just on pc. This video inspired be to try it out myself and I am loving it.

Always online to prevent modding and the main reason to sell micro transactions. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

The fact it was online only is what made a lot of people not even buy it in the first place. That's gamer repellent right there. I tried it during free play days on xbox, but not by much. So I can't say on the story on a personal level. Nor did I get a lot of abilities unlocked. What I did experience was just ok. I think a homeless guy (looked homeless. Think he was a vendor) got shot by a junkie, or unsatisfied customer (honestly cant remember. It happened abruptly on the side by just talking to someone, shortly after getting to the "town", and this scene played out.) No one found it odd that a guy got shot inside camp lol. The idea seemed cool, having powers complimented by cover shooting, but I felt the enemies were bullet sponges. Also, for cover based combat, abilities were needed to regen health, which meant leaving cover and running into enemy hordes. I heard it was a short game and had no sustenance. I'm glad I didn't buy it. Always Online games are a big no for me. It better be free2play if it requires an online connection to even play

Biggest issues is they made a game that relied on peer to peer connection which causes much of it connection issues compared to having an offline co-op mode and servers for connection. Lest us not forget the dreaded inventory glitch.

PCF has put out some really solid titles, it's unfortunate that they don't pan out. Painkiller on the original Xbox is an underrated gem on all counts! I played the hell out of fusionFall, can't wait to see your episode on that!

One of the biggest destiny 2 youtubers got payed to advertise this game and he actively tried to convince people it would be destiny 2s biggest competition. Boy was he wrong

I've recently been playing it again and honestly, it's pretty good. It's a shame that it didn't get the love from the devs and players that it needed.

PCF seemed to have “Stop Having Fun” memes posted in every corner of their office space. They “balanced” a PVE game and took away all the fun everyone was experiencing. They did end up tackling their own IP in all the wrong ways lmao.

Finished the campaign by myself and never looked back. The insect type monsters in this game were stupidly infuriating, the early bugs constantly broke the game, and it leaves you on a clifff hanger. It was fun with friends but after streaming this I don’t think I can go back.

This game died once players started to play end game. You never played the game or you would know that there was a very high chance your character would ultimately become destroyed by the game eating all your gear and effectively making you character unusable. It took months for them to fix 10s of thousands of player accounts and mine to this day even with the refunding of the gear still can't move without the game crashing. So in essence a game that I enjoyed for 76 straight hours of up until one crash rendered my character unusable still to this day. The biggest slap in the face is the lack of customer support throughout the whole process and not even being to play the game even after the fix and then they want to charge you 40 dollars for an expansion? Insane

Two of my favorite games are Destiny and Mass Effect. I'd never heard of this game before, but a friend sent me screenshots of the character screen and UI and said, "Look familiar?" I said, "Yeah, that's just...Destiny. Except the parts where it's Mass Effect."

I play a bunch of looter shooters including almost daily destiny 2 player. The only gripe i had with Outriders was the content. I really LOVED the story and the progression and the npcs/characters. I could forgive the always online thing as its 2021-beyond and alot of games are like that now or will be. But, when i was on the last mission i didnt even realize it was the last mission? and it left so many holes. I had really hoped they would add on more story content like ALOT MORE as i really did enjoy the game. I beat it in a weekend and havent touched it since.

I feel like the abilities don't fit with the cover based system. That's why I stopped playing. The combat systems felt like they were constantly fighting with eachother instead of flowing together.

in my opinion i believe some of the issues with this that would make the game even more interesting is ally recruitment and allow us to customise our camp members so we can change their outfits and also allow us to take any allies in the camp we have to assist within the game while the online is good the trio just isnt enough to me however this is the first installation for a game with such potential going forward if it ever does but for it to do so we as the games audience would need to make this game re-profitable, personally i believe aside from what i've already said about allies and customisation perhaps allow us to have a skin setting for changing the looks of the camps themselves too. the world would also need to be bigger of each section of the maps overall. also perhaps if the game gets any sequels in the future the games could be bigger in online play for how many can join co-op also perhaps, i would say between 4 to 6 rather than just 3 for co-op playing. i know the reason for this game having 3 only because this outriders game is optimal at 3 without causing more issues than it already has but future games of outriders could be prosparous. also i believe there is such a potential for quite a few more altered classes like perhaps: Electromancer, Arcticmancer and perhaps some other types of classes. i would hope to see another dlc or 2 after worldslayer and then perhaps release an outriders 2 and find a way to write an exceptional story that is if nothing else exceeds expections than what has occurred for what content is already on this game. i really like outriders the first time i played i was stunned when they killed off Jakob the way they did so far and then how weak the death was for shira i believe they should've stayed alive to have some chance of playing vial roles in the future of our outrider characters and the future fate of enoch, now i know that jakob and shira we're getting on in age in this game but they still had some type of potential despite being written in and many people hating that jakob was a grouchy old man, shira although the commanding officer in the middle of a war hard headed i believe some of the interactions with her were a little exaggerated, however i still believe they had a role to play alternatively if they had not been killed off. i would one day like to see this game reach a conclusion perhaps if they as i have said got to make 1 or 2 more dlc's for the current game then made outriders 2 and had perhaps 3 or 4 dlc's for that, then after the 4th dlc release an outriders 3 that allows us to venture on from outriders 2's 4th dlc in a final mission conclusion to stopping the anomoly storms all together if they wrote it correctly i think that would be a fantastic way to have an end to the story of enoch because of course they have an entire planet with the potential of at least 3 great base games and somehow set up an end cutscene on outriders 3 of ending the anomoly. im not sure if they would be able to pull off an outriders 4 somehow if we had the oppertunity of making it as far as outriders 3 it would be nice to see this game make it despite its recent droppings of the player base and its a shame because it has potential for so much more in my opinion.

The ultimate downfall for Outriders was it's horrible glitches early on. I bought this game with excitement, only to find out that their "Narritive driven" game was actually a live service model kit that was forced into trying to deliver a single player story, with massive server disconnect issues. The game was fun enough, so I ignored getting disconnected every 20 minutes (including progress loss), but what really stopped me was when they had the inventory deletion glitch. I put this game down waiting for them to patch it, and they took entirely too long to fix this. By time they were done patching it, the game was dead, the community gone, and I had no reason to pick it back up because other games to come out. With the game being dead, there was no point in me going back to it either, so I had zero incentive to play an online-only single player game, effectively.

I actually played the Beta (on PS4 back then) and I didn't even know the game WASN'T supposed to be a live service game. Everything about the presentation - from the character class selection suggesting what role they play in a group over to the "cursor you control with a stick" menu and finally the game advertising the multiplayer aspect on multiple occasions ingame - just really felt like that's what its supposed to be. Pretty sure you could even see other players run around in the hub city. My other takeaway from the Beta was also the story - it certainly left an impression, starting out as a "stranded on a new planet" sci-fi drama but after the prologue suddenly hitting you over the head with a timeskip turning the game into a more darker & serious Borderlands setting instead. Not sure if that was the way to go, considering the game also got significantly more desaturated and employing a browner colour palette after that point.

i actually enioyed outrider at the beginning...until a bug made it impossible for me to log in because it seemed all my equipment was lost and after a month they still hadent fixed it (don't know how long it actually took, never looked back after this). I never finished the mainstory but what i saw i realy liked, specialy the WWI trench estetic in the earlier parts.

This game had so much potential, i took the ride most of the way into worldslayer. Its gun design was awesome, exactly what looters needed at the moment, but good lord the bugs were soooo bad, and the servers. Follow this with every major build catching nerfs based on popularity seemingly and that was enough for ppl to leave. Some character mods were still broken over a year into its life. Unacceptable. But overall minus those things, it wasnt bad. Playing a devastator in his prime or trickster was insanely satisfying. Such a shame

a friend bought this for me when it came out. She wasted her money. The screen wobble was atrocious and the fact that you couldn't turn that off even in cutscenes made sure I never got far enough to experience the game. I got motion sick from a game for the first time in my life. After I left there was no improvements so I just never went back. When the improvements came I was so far beyond caring that I just didn't bother coming back.

I played this game once, I loved it, it's a very fun and interesting game with great elements. It's not a live service, it's one and done, that's how it was made. I did some of the post game content and it's good if you like strikes in destiny or dungeons in WoW it's that type of isolated gear farm. I'd rather play this game again than a borderlands title. It's not dead, it's over it did it's job, I wish more games were like it

Welp thank u for making an outriders video since no one else seems to anymore....I can speak on this game more than anybody, I have nearly 3000 hours into this game, I love this game and so do a lot of other people. They claim it's not profitable yet charged 50$$ for 10 hours of content in world Slayer...they made the grind to max out horrendous, I have all 4 characters at apoc 40 and roughly ascension level 190 currently because I'm crazy, no one else will ever grind all 4 to max cuz it's stupid. At any point they could add content and charge and I'd gladly pay for it but have left outriders for dead and if they don't think it will affect future games of theirs they are sadly mistaken. I have always gone to bat for this game in every outriders RU-vid video and I just can't anymore. If the games creators don't give a fuck anymore why should anyone else? Pcf won't be around forever due to this abandonment and many other issues thru the outriders game life. It's quite sad actually

I really liked the intro to outriders, with the mystery and wonder of a new alien planet, but then it just slaps you with a time-skip and dumps you into a Boring Brown Battlefield, where everyone is an asshole.

Outriders was also a pack-in game with 30-series GPUs artificially boosting the playerbase, which is how i've owned the game since launch, but never played it.

I like this game! Although I do agree with some of the flaws it’s still one of my favorite shooters I’ve ever played . Powers mixed with gunplay. Bad ass in my book. Will be disappointed if it does get shut down. Me and my friends still play.

Havent watched this video yet, but all I know about Outriders is that my buddy was HIGH on it and then he said it was going nowhere and just stopped playing

I find the argument of “well, it’s not a live service” absolutely ridiculous, it literally is a live service, they just didn’t want to commit in case the game flops. You can’t make an apple pie and call it a cheese cake.

The salvation for this game is turn the base game for free, the dlc for 15 dollars and assume the game as service aspect.

Wasn't expecting to hear a little blast of "Jet Black New Year" at the end there.

I liked the game when gameplay was shown before launch but then I remembered something from Anthem : always wait when it involves looter-shooters because devs always find a way to make them into a mess. And oh boy I was right when I saw the typical server problems, game-breaking bugs, bad loot management, balancing issues,... It's almost a running gag, the problem is...the gag is still running.

I remember playing the game at launch. What really killed the game for me was the bug that didn't allow me to log into my main character for a good couple of weeks and I didn't feel like slogging through the boring bullet spongey campaign again just to make another character. It also didn't help that they nerfed character builds and loot soon after launch just to try and stifle players from progressing too quickly through the game's nonexistent endgame.

The only thing memorable about Outsiders was that Grimes Appreciates Power. Stg I saw that ad in its entirety at least 100 times.

as a early player there was a few issue with the loot at the begin then it was fix but they started nerfing stuff and THAT was the downfall of the game and it was once again a spiral of nerf that killed it

Played this game at launch, the story imo was fun up until the ending and some unfinished story arcs, one particiular enemy/boss you don't even see what happened to him until you find him in the optional end game grind as a boss. The end game was also killed because of the lack of a chat system, you couldn't even type to your team to ask what difficulty they wanted to attempt. The end game worked like Mythic + in WoW if anyone is familiar with that, you pick a difficulty and the higher the difficulty the higher the rewards. The matchmaking system was also plagued by disconnect issues and it was difficult to even find players to begin with as most opted to playing solo for fear of losing rewards from disconnections. But if you were able to find a full squad in the games hardest content the game was a blast but that was too few and far between.

This wasn't really a live service game. That would mean the developers kept working on the game, updating it and giving the players new content.

The game was very fun, but after grinding the end game missions a bunch of times, you sort of ask yourself "why?". If it isn't a game as a service, then you're just upgrading your items for the sake of upgrading items.

The theme song line was kinda cold ngl 😮‍💨

Like many games of it's time, Outriders wasn't ready when it launched.