Debunking Fears Immigrants have about moving to the Netherlands 

Thank you so much. I appreciate you 🫶

Thank you so much Alex. This comment means a lot and I appreciate you to it 💕

Ohh yes, that’s a possibility. As I mentioned there are exceptions to this. For instance, she’s married to your son who is Dutch, then she can keep two citizenships. I have a video explaining this in details. 🫶

It’s so amazing to hear your story. I always find it really beautiful that kids can learn from multiple cultures. Thanks for your comment on this. And my sons hair is really full. I hope it keeps growing 🤗

I mean😁😁. He acted like he heard me 🤣

I’m glad the videos help in some way 🫶

Hi Ronald, I agree that it’s not perfect. Sometimes our cultural values are so different that it makes it really difficult to decide on what values to stand for and which one to trash and I think that’s where this issues stem from. An unwillingness to meet somewhat halfway also make it worse….

@@josphineogugua Yep, that's the trouble with values. One can compromise on norms, but never on values. One either apply values or not. That is psychologically a very difficult dilemma. But I find it really sad to see many Moroccan boys living without norms at all, and the girls desperate for a European partner, ending up wedded out and abused. You'll be shocked to see what the percentage is of non-western girls in secret shelter homes, hiding from abuse.

Bi-cultural always works because that is your existence of being. You cannot choose how you are born so to conclude that it doesn't work is completely wrong. The main reason that it didn't work with Turkish/ Moroccans immigrants is exactly that. They were NOT bi-cultural and stuck to the culture they brought with them and never integrated properly or at all in The Netherlands. Basically, you are contradicting yourself and confirming Josphine's point. And the main factor they couldn't or were not allowed to integrate wasn't the culture but the religion which is global. You are confusing the two here.... ethnicity and religion is not the same.

@@AlexK-yr2th Interesting, because I think you contradict yourself. Bi cultural works...... You cannot choose how you are born..... They were NOT bi-cultural and stuck to the culture.... never integrated at all.... I will spell it out for you How does "never integrated at all" compare to "Bi-cultural works?" I see a contradiction.

​@@ronaldderooij1774 You are going around in circles. Just mentioning 1 example doesn't support a case. You make the assumption that bi-cultural in The Netherlands only exists between "original Dutch" and "gastarbeiders" because that is the only cultures you seem to be familiar with and you insist that is a cultural thing and not willing to accept it is mostly a religious issue with Turks and Moroccans. You do not seem to get the point and trying oh so hard to support the conclusion that was set before elaborating in the first place. Where Josphine talks from experience as a Nigerian living in a Western society and myself as a Westerner living in an Asian, Muslim country so we basically have a reversed role that is, in basis, the same. I can assure you I see the same problems here as I saw with with Moroccans in The Netherlands even though here they are a majority and have all the power to shape, bent and implement their rules that (Turks and) Moroccans in The Netherlands seem to demand and/or require to make their culture work and themselves integrate and therefor reject the way Dutch society goes about things. Nothing cultural but just the religious rules they have to comply with that are tolerated to a degree in The Netherlands but not required by law as in the culture they come from. This makes me to observe and state that it is not cultural in nature because the same issues are right at the surface with their holy book in their hands between both countries. In a nutshell, the culture is basically the same but the differences appear to religious in nature only and the problems are exactly the same which are global and therefor, by definition, not cultural. You are looking from it from an outside perspective with little, small experiences that you came across, mostly out of spite, I assume, and ignore willingly or unwillingly, the person's values and feelings from within that people from another culture bring with them and can't just shed. Josphine is trying very well to make the point that these cultural differences can live side by side within a person and/or society and you talk only about problems that occur in The Netherlands that are totally besides the point she is making and are not related whatsoever. I think, you didn't really understand what she is talking about and just jump on the subject because, oh oh oh, you have something to contradict and are trying way too hard to proof a point where your vision is pretty blur and try to make points that turn out to be small exceptions at best. Me, for instance, have 2 children that are part Chinese, part Indian and part Dutch. I experience cultural differences on a daily basis. Now, my present partner is Chinese, same story. Back in The Netherlands, I had Indonesian girlfriend(s) and 1 time a girlfriend from Korea. I undergo culture differences quite a bit in The Netherlands already that are not driven by religion and I think I have quite a bit of personal experience of culture differences, religion and bi-cultural to say the least. I live in a Muslim country nowadays for example where I am the "foreigner", simply because of white skin from the outside and my Dutch nature on the inside. And just to make things a little more clear, I am not religious at all but I have become aware and understand many different believes, religions and many, many superstitions and learned to respect them as they are. I experience it not from an angry point of view against the culture that "disturbs" Dutch society. It is all about acceptance, from both sides. I cannot enforce my believes, values and views over here because they look better to me. And that is basically the "kern" of the problem with Moroccans mainly, in The Netherlands. They want society adapt to them but not visa versa. In other words, I reject the notion that people solely behave by where they were born or the color of their skin and the subjective environment they are integrating into, if you catch my drift. There is a lot more details that goes into that and in this particular case in The Netherlands with the groups you mentioned and that your own examples perfectly confirm and support. So I tell you, the bi-cultural aspects that she presents are straight to the point, whether you agree or not. You have every right to disagree of course but that by itself doesn't make it accurate or true. The examples you mention is are clash of religious values, hardly cultural, where, for instance, Josphine is Christian and grew up with mostly the same values we live by in The Netherlands and how we organize our society. Therefor people like her can integrate much easier or find a place of there own with respect to their culture and values than people that have a big issue with how Dutch society is organized. They clash and always will be. I notice for instance that my values and views are still very Christian in nature. And that is culture. Maybe you should just listen a bit more to people that feel and undergo it personally instead of just kicking against, mostly open, doors. She is talking about different cultures that many expats/immigrants experience when moving to The Netherlands and it is a excellent discussion she brought up and that many question and wonder about. Her video is not about problems we have with previous "gastarbeiders" in The Netherlands that, I say it again, are merely religious in nature and the problems that occur from that. And sorry Josphine that I took the liberty to speak in your name. Please correct if I'm wrong.

Of course it’s easier for people to settle in. But sometimes we need to go the extra miles to form genuine friendships and that’s something we need to open and happy to do.

I hope this video helps in some way 🫶🫶🫶