Decoding Scott Fischer's Role in the 1996 Everest Tragedy

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Scott Fischer's fateful act may have been the clouded ambition that led him to say they were building a yellow brick road to the top of Mount Everest, and days later he was consumed by the very mountain that had propelled him into the world spotlight as one of the strongest mountaineering guides in the world. (more below time stamps).
TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Introduction
2:03 - references & recommendations
2:44 - Scott Fischer’s background & bringing clients to Everest
4:29 - Extreme conditions on Mount Everest
5:30 - The situation in 1996, important characters in the story and
6:06 - Yellow Brick Road up Everest & pressure to succeed in 1996
9:26 - Timeline of significant events
12:40 Critical errors & decisions
14:24 - Summits + confusion
19:12 - Closing thoughts and analysis of errors made
23:56 - Legacy of Scott Fischer
24:42 - Welcome comments
REFERENCE MATERIALS AND SPECIFIC TIMELINE BACKGROUND USED FOR THIS STORY:
Mountain Without Mercy: The Everest Story
Turning Point episode (season 4, episode 14)
Forrest Sawyer reports on survivors of a storm on Mount Everest
Air date: April 27, 1997
LINK to episode found on David Snow:
• Everest 1996 Disaster ...
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Introduction continued:
American Scott Fischer, a born mountaineer, was humbled by the grandeur and beauty of the mountains and inspired to guide people to share in that experience.
The untimely passing of Scott Fischer during the 1996 Mount Everest disaster that claimed seven others remains a topic of interest and speculation among mountaineers, researchers, and enthusiasts. While many aspects of the event have been extensively documented, there are still some unanswered questions.
In today’s video we’ll look at the loss of Scott Fischer and briefly examine some of the factors that might have led to the events that claimed his life….
***IN MEMORY OF DAVID BREASHEARS***
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Additional reference material for video is listed below:
Jon Krakauer - Into Thin Air
Anatoli Boukreev - The Climb
and, the exceptional examination of the events of the '96 disaster by
Nick van der Leek - Scott Fischer's 5 Crucial Mistakes + Boukreev vs Krakauer at Camp IV on the South Col
Link: ru-vid.com94TzW0NX...
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@EverestMystery Месяц назад

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@user-lv2ot4pq7x Месяц назад

Slightly off topic but I've been reviewing Mallory's fall and I am far from an expert in anything but I'm just curious if his other boot was found? Was it with him? His injuries, to me, suggest that he didn't necessarily "fall" but instead jumped because he was going to fall. Everyone of us would instinctively try to control our fall by going feet first so as not to land on your head and that could be the cause of the leg fracture as he would've landed on that leg and then tumbled. Wouldn't his boots be on tight enough to not shoot off due to the whiplash involved? Or, was he wearing so many layers of socks that his boot could slide off during the fall? It seems to me that the boot would still be on his foot if it didn't come off during the fall. There's still a single sock holding on. Also, was there more snowfall in that area in his time? Is it possible that this entire area was covered? The fall line doesn't make sense in 2024. Thinking there would've been more snow in that area which would explain the deviation in his fall if he fell from the ridge line. Thinking a gust of wind could've knocked him off balance as well which could've resulted in his attempt to control his fall by jumping before he fell. Perhaps the initial fall was a controlled fall and if so would add more clues to one of the greatest mysteries in recorded human history. What's the reason the Chinese would hide the fact that they may have found Irvine and the camera? Doesn't it suggest that Mallory and Irvine had made it to the summit and the Chinese knew it because the pictures where there to be developed and the claim that they were undevelopable suggest that of course they were and if they said they weren't then that's all we need to know to know that they reached the summit. The Chinese claim doesn't hold water as there's no real reason to hide the fact that they found Irvine if they hadn't made it to the summit. I have little doubt, if any, that they didn't summit. Everything suggests that they did and they fell on the descent. Had they turned around they wouldn't have been in a possible state of "chemical collapse" as is experienced by many on their descent. To me, everything we know and suspect says they did. That film would've been preserved within the cam and unless they messed up the developing, which as a pro photog myself of 20+ years, is difficult to do if you know what you're doing and even if they had messed them up there is technology today and even decades ago that could possibly recover partial images at the least. Thoughts in the AM ;) Thanks, Eh!

@frankmiller95 Месяц назад

Having read John Krakauer's excellent account of this event, two of my favorite quotes come to mind: "The word "experienced' often refers to someone who's gotten away with doing the wrong thing more frequently than you have." Laurence Gonzales "Deep Survival" ********************************************************* "ln all this world there is nothing so easily squandered And once gone, so completely last as life." Kenneth Fearing, "Any Man's Advice To His Son."

@Finn-nt7pr Месяц назад

1996 Everest was Scott Fischer’s first time as an Mt. Everest Guide; he had failed twice to personally summit Everest. In 1994 he did summit but not as a guide. 1996 was the first time ever, and sadly the last, he guided Everest. Charlottes Fox was the person who gave Sandy Pittman the life saving injection on their descent and Neal and Anatoli both were responsible for saving lives; specifically Pittman

@biscaynediver Месяц назад

Extremely unfortunate that you're just regurgitating Krakauer's slanted version of events. You ought to read ALL the accounts of those on the mountain. And you ought to review the many controversies left in the wake of Krakauer's other books, and the lies he's been caught in. The short of it is you'll find Krakauer is a seductively good writer, but a deeply flawed and morally lacking person. His modesty routine is a facade for a guy with huge ego and an inability to admit his moral failings. Ironically, the two people from the events of May 1996 who got by far the lionshare of media attention were the two with the biggest axes to grind - Beck Weathers and Krakauer.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

@@biscaynediver thanks for your thoughts and insights. I admittedly have not read Into Thin Air in ten years. I looked for it in a box I stored it in when we moved, but couldn't find it. My wife brought one home from the library for me....I'll get to it. I did truly love The Climb, as well. I will clarify why I say that I loved Into Thin Air: it's not in the least that I agree with him on his take of everything that happened. I loved it because of his raw take on the underbelly of an industry and obsession that most books leading up to it kowtowed to. He exposed the truth behind the veil that is Everest. Your comment is very good and I appreciate it. I am considering a Beck Weathers video and don't disagree that there is a hell of a lot more to his story there than a hero coming home then doing talks for $50,000, inspiring audiences in awe of his survival. The axe to grind comment, I'm curious....please elaborate. Thanks for watching

@peach7210 Месяц назад

Just saw the headline that David Breshears has passed away at his home. RIP to a legend. 😭💔

@alyzu4755 Месяц назад

😞❤️

@nrnoble Месяц назад

I highly recommend David Breshears book "High Exposure". In the book he makes the point about how reduce the risk of dying: When picking a turn around time, it means stop immediately climbing up and turn back down. It does not mean, think about turning around. He writes about forcing himself to turn around a few meters short of reaching the top of one of Seven Summits. It would have taken him 20-30 minutes to go the extra distance, but he had seen climbers die because they went beyond their turn around time, and many died after reaching the summit, but had nothing left to survive the decent. The goal is not to just to reach the top, but to return alive.

@Jodie4582 Месяц назад

😢 I was surprised to read this, very unfortunate.

@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Месяц назад

That's so sad. Time to rewatch his PBS interview. May he journey well.

@sheilabloom6735 21 день назад

😢 Broke my heart.

@itllbesuzanarchy Месяц назад

I was living in Seattle in 1996 and became obsessed with learning what had gone so wrong on Everest that day. I now live in North Bend. There's a memorial bench on the Little Si trail that honors Doug Hansen, the USPS worker, who died on Everest in 1996.

@LilyGazou Месяц назад

I always note that bench on that trail. It’s a great way to remember someone. You are lucky to be able to live in North Bend.

@maruchan1936 Месяц назад

Damn! I didn’t know. I’ll have to look for it the next time I get a chance. I never knew it was there.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

Frankly the harsh reality in climbing customary behavior/etiquette is leave them. So obviously Rob had a heart of gold. I really feel Rob would have saved Scott. But he chose to die with Doug...?? SMH

@vanzell1912 Месяц назад

You should laugh out loud when climbing guides tell you they’ll enforce a turn around time. They NEVER do.

@deborahcooper6048 Месяц назад

I remember that so vividly I was waiting for my kids dentist appointment and started reading.. Into Thin Air...Rob Hall was the tour guide with Doug Hansen..it was his second attempt and Rob really wanted him to Summit..A freak storm came in and they died coming down.. Scott Fisher and so many experienced climbers died that Year 💔💔💔🙏

@robertmartin8565 Месяц назад

Anatoli Boukreev's book The Climb is the best of the several books that I have read on this tragic climb.

@lisaperry5999 Месяц назад

It is especially after Into Thin Airs author, gave him a bad name, unfairly.

@lisaperry5999 Месяц назад

Beck Weathers Left for Dead is another good one from 96 expedition

@LilyGazou Месяц назад

Agreed. After finishing it, I wanted to send him money to continue his career. Then learned he had died on another climb.

@dubbledub4588 Месяц назад

You like it better than Into Thin Air?

@robertmartin8565 Месяц назад

Yes.@@dubbledub4588

@lisaperry5999 Месяц назад

RIP David Brashears..just saw he passed yesterday he was there filming IMAX in 96.

@andrewpeters1477 Месяц назад

A good summary. Incidentally Anatoli fixed the ropes at the most critical section, the Hillary Step while Neil fed the rope out for him.

@mountresplendent Месяц назад

Dear Everest Mystery, 🇨🇦 here from Jasper National Park. Your video has moved me to comment. For context; Caver here: took many years to accumulate memories of top 8 of Canada’s deepest and 7 longest. My partners and I lived by “ you are only as strong as your weakest link” If one called a rout hours in , we would turn. There is always another day. Thank you for your channel and your insights; very educational and much appreciated!

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Cavers are another breed altogether! My friend Mark Synnott did a feature for Nat Geo in Uzbekistan's Dark Star cave and he gained a new perspective, that's for sure. Thanks for taking the time to comment, great having you here!

@eigleenalegri2664 Месяц назад

The weakest link that matters is the management. Pittman had experience climbing the high summits. Other climbers didn't.

@dana102083 Месяц назад

Hi from Edmonton!! 🇨🇦 ❤

@mountresplendent Месяц назад

@@dana102083 Hello neighbour!

@gohawks3571 Месяц назад

I miss visiting Bannf💔❤️‍🩹 I moved, and things didn't go so smoothly, so it will be a while. So glad I was able to bring my dog to enjoy the smells before she died (we adopted a senior dog, tried to give her a great retirement ❤️🐕‍🦺). Someday we'll be back...🥰

@chavenord Месяц назад

What we should learn from this story is exactly what you point out: that key decisions are difficult to make in the death zone while fatigued, thus turnaround times that are decided on while clear headed must be respected absolutely.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks so much for watching....your thoughts are right on point.

@fedorpravov5372 Месяц назад

Тhе biggest fault at least for Fisher group tragedy is on Fisher himself. As you said we would never know why Fisher being in bad shape kept climbing toward the summit while his clients were descending.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

Having worked for him at the time I wish he wouldn't have.. in fact i remember feeling a sinking feeling in my stomach at the office when we heard after bringing Dale down that Scott was going back up. But knowing Scott I feel he did because he wanted everyone to make it back especially Doug which I figured knew would be a problem. Not to mention Pittman who was a problem from the start.

@wyomingadventures Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing Scott's story. Somewhere i read about his life from childhood up to his death. He truly seemed like a good man. Rest in peace Scott.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

He was an amazingly infectious man who was known to say things like "You're either crusin' or your bummin' so might as well cruise" Scott Fischer.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

I truly wish I could have met him....while he may have gone over the line, his charisma and climbing abilities must have been fascinating to be in the presence of

@michaelroby6538 Месяц назад

Nice guys aren’t perfect. NOBODY is. And nice guys make mistakes. I can’t really agree that White got Scott killed was his being a nice guy. It was his arrogance and lack of humility that killed him. Sometimes clients don’t need a nice guy, they need the truth. And sometimes that means not accepting them as a client at all. There’s no doubt, he had a good heart. he wanted the best for everybody. But sometimes the best is the truth. Sometimes failure is winning.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

@@EverestMystery Thom, if you haven't read Robert Birkby's book "Mountain Madness Scott Fischer & a life lived on high" I highly recommend it. I just bought another hard copy from amazon was under $25. If I remember correctly the digital copy was $8. Definitely paint's a much more accurate picture of who Scott was vs any content I've see on YT.

@kevinb1756 Месяц назад

Being a climber here in the Pacific Northwest. I’ve had a few interactions with people who knew Scott, I never met him but the consensus with all those that did seems to be that he was a genuine, good guy. Just very unfortunate about his passing. Appreciate the video and information. I just subscribed. Great channel, thank you.

@Hootncozy Месяц назад

Goes to show you that we all have an expiration date. Unfortunately we don’t get to plan our own. Human error is well, human. We aren’t invincible like we would love to believe. Although his passing really sucked, he also helped inspire another generation of mountaineering.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Yes, he did inspire so many. I found myself in mourning almost while doing this video. I was battling it out on a mountain in Pakistan at the time this was taking place.... The story is a sad tale. Thank you for watching and for sharing your thoughts!

@melodymacken9788 Месяц назад

Beautifully said.

@kamakaziozzie3038 Месяц назад

All good points articulated well. No one knows if this could be their last day, but we should all live life like it is🙏

@refuge42 22 дня назад

Many people do actually plan their own expiration. 😮

@Chrissy85308 Месяц назад

The fact that his team got everyone down tells me Scott Fisher had put together an amazing team. Too bad he didn't take care of himself first. Hopefully lessons were learned about that storm and lives lost. I remember hearing about it on the news. I had just had surgery and I was resting and watching a lot of news. I can remember when I was growing up what a big deal it was to summit Everest. There would be newd stories on TV and in thr newspapers when it happened.

@wyattearp9656 Месяц назад

I think Scott and Rob were AWESOME climbers, but terrible leaders. Their job was not to summit Everest. Their job was to bring all lives back. Turning people back even if it means they don't summit. . You wonder how this would have ended if Neil didn't volunteer to set ropes. When the leaders aren't leading you are up there with amateurs. Doug should have been turned back long before. A good leader leads. Rob lost his life needlessly. I forget the name of the gentleman that Discovery followed as a leader, but he lead from base camp. If ever I would have climbed it would have been with him. Shallow thoughts killed many people and changed many lives. Bec never pointed a finger, yet his life was changed and Peachs almost lost her husband. Another great video Tom!!

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Excellent insight....THANK YOU. Your take is always right on and very insightful. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to share your thoughts!

@wyattearp9656 Месяц назад

@@EverestMystery I enjoy your videos and appreciate that you like feedback.

@janepipkin8139 Месяц назад

One of my observations while learning about this is that communication and organization among the professionals (leaders and guides) was not strong. So that supports your thought.

@pamelah9205 Месяц назад

Was it Russell Brice maybe? Great comment btw!

@wyattearp9656 Месяц назад

@pamelah9205 yes it was. Russell is the mayor or Everest

@zedman1 Месяц назад

David Breashears RIP 😢

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

A devastating loss....beyond description

@Cry.For.Ukraine Месяц назад

OMG ... he was my age! Does anyone know the cause of his death? This is heartbreaking. RIP David.

@robertmartin8565 Месяц назад

He was found unresponsive at his home.@@Cry.For.Ukraine

@zztop4996 Месяц назад

@@Cry.For.UkraineAP Reporting: "Breashears was found unresponsive at his home in Marblehead, Massachusetts, on Thursday, Ellen Golbranson said. She said he died of natural causes but 'the exact cause of death remains unknown at this time.'”

@Eyewonder3210 Месяц назад

He was only 68.

@marykhalm Месяц назад

The 1996 season was the first time I was following along online. I remember sitting at my dining room table to check the progress & was stunned to read the news of the tragedy. I really appreciate you bringing these stories to us in such a thoughtful way. Thank you.

@susanlilley-rizos9906 Месяц назад

I had read the books and watched the films that you suggested at the beginning of your talk, but I want you to know that I found this so fascinating even though I knew all about it already. Your tale was riveting , thank you.

@deborahcooper6048 Месяц назад

I absolutely agree 😎

@jfenwicklb Месяц назад

One of my closest friends growing up is the son of MacGillivary, of MacGillivary Freeman Films. A group of us were always on the beach daily, and I vividly recall being able to say hi to the IMAX team at Basecamp one day during one of his dad's calls. The movie was never intended to be the blockbuster it became, but rather an educational documentary like the rest of their vast collection of films. It was the tragedy that unfolded on the mountain that year that drew the world's attention wanting to know and see what happened. Not sure why, but that memory of screaming hi into this huge bulky "cell" phone to the team at Everest stuck with me all these years....

@sully2737 Месяц назад

I have always found the 1996 tragedy to be particularly heartbreaking. Scott Fisher and Rob Hall were both so skilled, talented, and knowledgeable, and they established the 2 pm turn-around time for rock-solid reasons. If only they had adhered to it. Fewer people would have reached to summit that season, but we would not be here discussing how many people died. So very sad.

@JohnSmith-ux3tt Месяц назад

Fischer was fighting altitude sickness on the day. He should recognized that and stayed at Camp 4. Alternatively, he could have hired someone that would realize he was far too slow, and turned him around at the Balcony.

@sully2737 Месяц назад

@@JohnSmith-ux3tt Yes. Absolutely. By all accounts he was impaired and definitely not performing at his usual level. He had top-notch guides to assist his clients (and their actions were heroic) but it is odd that no one said, "Scott, something is wrong with you today, buddy, and you need to go down." Or maybe someone did and the message wasn't strong enough to sink in. Obviously, he didn't recognize his own limitations on that day. Worst possible place to make that mistake.

@leightondavies8884 Месяц назад

What I loved about this video was there was no blame - so Many people have been ,Team Krakauer’ or team ‘Boukreev in terms of the accounts of both - and laying the blame without knowing the facts or being in that situation - like You said , and you’ve been there …your barely functioning at that height -- very insightful

@DD-gi6kx Месяц назад

why shouldn't there be blame

@leightondavies8884 Месяц назад

@@DD-gi6kx I didn’t say that - I stated if you look again , there was no blame in the video - as for your separate question , the only ones who can answer that are those who were on the hill that day. Nobody else knows so any views / comments / stone throwing is purely speculative , and that’s a dangerous thing

@scottwooledge6387 Месяц назад

@@DD-gi6kx I feel like Lion’s share of the “blame” needs to be laid at everyone’s feet, and no one’s. They endeavored on an expedition where every year 6.5 people die if every 100 that summit. Better choices could have been made sure, and we can point fingers at people in hindsight. But we can’t say with any certainty that the entire team could have survived the storm. A storm that was no one’s fault. It’s an inherently very dangerous thing to do and everyone knew that going in.

@MCrvngraddip2013 Месяц назад

Yea I hate all that too. I heard before reading Anatolis version, that he didn't like JKs version. Yes it was different because he had a different experience and is a different person. There is multiple viewpoints and no one is blameless. We have everything to learn from this experience.

@tealhammond Месяц назад

They clearly try to place some blame on Sandy Pittman. She was not inexperienced, she has 6/7 summits under her belt and it was her 3rd attempt at submitting Everest. Her story in today’s Everest wouldn’t even cause somebody to raise an eyebrow.

@GodsDope Месяц назад

Thanks for doing these videos. I'm an acquaintance of Jochen Hemmleb, that's how I've become interested in mount everest (climbing has always be an interest of mine, even though I'll never be on that professional level). I've soon learned about the 1996 drama. I really have no opinion on my own on this, since a) I'm not an expert and b) many unfortunate factors came together in this situation. I'm just incredibly sorry for those who lost their lives and their families. I do, nevertheless think it shows that sometimes it's better to let go, even of your ambition, instead of pushing through. If you already pushed yourself over the edge, don't go any further. Sometimes it's difficult to realize and accept that pure will in itself won't be enough. But it is important to teach yourself that too. Just a thought. Apart from this - thank you for making the internet a kinder and friendlier place. It touches me that there are still decent people online who try to act kind towards anyone. I just found you and really love to watch your videos every evening. I will become a member for sure.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

It's great having you here, thank you for the great comment and kind words. Very cool that you know Jochen! I'm happy you found the channel and appreciate your thoughts on the atmosphere I endeavor to keep here. Cheers from the US!

@louiseguglielmetti7477 Месяц назад

Thanks for your coverage on Mr Fischer’s story!💜

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

I really enjoyed working on it....it is a rabbit hole, as is everything about the '96 disaster. Thank you for watching!

@louiseguglielmetti7477 Месяц назад

@@EverestMystery you’re welcome! 😁

@balke7935 Месяц назад

The positive message and general care and decency this channel radiates never ceases to make me feel good. Thanks for all of your constant hard work in recording the history and culture of the mountains.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

I'm glad the tone resonates with you! It means a lot that you appreciate it. Thank you!

@leachman90 Месяц назад

I remember after that day and the news got out I became an Everest nut. I read what I could find including the books you mentioned. I believe Scott thought he was invincible which in the end led to him dying. It was Rob that I was more sad for. He died out of love and caring imo. And here it is 28 yrs later and after all these yrs I am finally making my way to Everest. I will be leaving the States on May 9th. I'm only doing EBC, then heading over to Island Peak. This will be my first climb so I must start out with a safe climb. Altitude will also play a part so that is why I choose IP. By the way I am 60 yrs old now so this trip has been a long time coming.

@leachman90 Месяц назад

And I didn't mean for it to sound like I wasn't sad for Scott. It was horrible and a terrible day. I do remember shedding tears for all involved. With Scott and the way he did things and feeling invincible was what made him the man he was. I was truly sad at his passing.

@LilyGazou Месяц назад

Have a transformational journey. Come back and tell us about it.

@M00N.L1GHT Месяц назад

Yes! Have a wonderful experience and do let us know about it!

@lidijabasanovic9779 Месяц назад

Dear man, come back snd tell us all!All the best 😊

@melodymacken9788 Месяц назад

Wishing you a wonderful journey and climb. Be safe.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

Thanks for this. How could I ever forget that day.. I was in the office of MM. I'm the guy who dropped him off at the airport for this expedition. Sure miss this infectious man.. . For a view of Scott read Robert Birkby's book "SCOTT FISCHER MOUNTAIN MADNESS & a life lived on high" Getting Outside magazine involved was Scott.. another day I will never forget is when Outside mag. said they're going with Rob's AC. But shortly after Scott being Scott finds and pulls a rabbit (Sandy P) outa the proverbial hat. (saving the day yet again) I don't feel people appreciate how much of a challenge filling a climbing roster at the time was. At the time there was not much public reach to advertise expeditions other than little adds in the back of climbing and outdoor magazines. So like it or not (in my biased view) Scott was key to letting the world know about Everest. There were 2 fatalities on the MM team Scott and Lopsang's uncle 2 months later in a hospital in Kathmandu. Which I feel was certainly a stress on all on the sherpas who already were upset by SHP's fling on the mountain. One last key factor and another day I will never forget at the MM office was the day I brought the crappy 2way radios back from If my memory serves) swallows nest trekking supplies. Crappy because that's all the budget allowed. Yes believe it or not even at those rates of $30-60k per client. Scott was known to haggle.. even to the point of loss meaning if it cost him $ in he just wanted to "make it happen" (MM mantra). A general contractor that I had done many subs for who is family with Pete and Klev said "Scott just over did himself". Thanks again Thom,

@montananerd8244 Месяц назад

I guess I don’t understand why making Everest trendy is a good thing. Seems like a very dark story about ego, and people green washing the damage they do to sell environmental awareness is sketchy at best…

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

@@montananerd8244 green washing?? You mean the fact that MM removed 5000 lbs of garbage and 150 O2 canisters?? That needs to be done to this day and I feel if Scott (who initiated the idea) wouldn't have perished those efforts would have continued and by now it'd be policy to "leave no trace". The Napalese Gov is talking about "blue bags" to defecate into and each climber required to carry it back to Base camp with them. To say "a dark story about ego" I'd guess you are not a climber. Second it's ultimately up to the Nepalese Gov and of course they like the $$. I certainly am not implying making Everest trendy is good. I'm saying it was Rob & Scott who effectively did it. Unfortunately neither are around to see what the fruits of their labor have done.

@kenw2225 Месяц назад

Lol environmental damage. Some bodies and some trash. Big deal. Humans are so funny everything comes from the earth will return to the earth. Earth will eat It all some day. The one place on earth that humans footprint is a non factor is the top of everest. It be one think if you were crying about rivers and oceans, or woodlands being destroted and gmo plant replaced , or mass pollution from chemical pesticides. No you're crying about something that effects no one

@somjasa Месяц назад

I think so too. All his client had summited, he didn't feel well and was exhausted. There was really no need for him to summit himself in order to make his first MM success. Perhaps pressure from the attendant media became too much of a part regarding his view of MM's accomplishment on Mt. Everest. It's really heartbreaking listening to him in his last interview. Both Scott and Rob Hall had the best intetions for themselves and their clients. What happened was "Life", all we have is now.

@jjzap2935 Месяц назад

@@somjasa To be candid I think Doug Hansen had a lot to do with the reasoning. Consider he was dubbed "the rescuer". Scott was a very selfless man who if on a mountain anywhere would instantly prioritize helping anyone in trouble.

@navy4735 Месяц назад

just incredible , you have a gift of telling amazing Stories.

@GregJohnson-xk3gw Месяц назад

Fischer (and Hall) let ambition overwhelm knowledge and experience. This is particularly evident by two glaring mistakes: (1) the breakdown in communication regarding rope fixing above camp 4 (significantly increasing exposure time high on the mountain) and (2) the abandonment of the well-established and frequently emphasized 2 pm turnaround time.

@janetbressette631 Месяц назад

It sounds like the climbers forgot the main rule.. at 2pm they have to head down! Period! Ambition and egos got in the way of decisions. After watching a few videos of that climb. My heart goes out to Beck. Being left for dead a couple times, but the drive to survive saved his own life! Thanks for sharing this view.

@elizabethmarshall3558 Месяц назад

Very well done in a short time frame Thom. You covered foibles of human nature with respect and compassion. 👏 Thank you.

@EverestMystery 12 дней назад

I truly appreciate it, thank you!

@jimough2441 Месяц назад

This was the event that captured my interest in mountaineering, through Krakauer's book. It has culminated with me being a week away from starting my own attempt to climb Everest.

@skullsaintdead Месяц назад

Wow, can you keep us updated on the new regulations (the poop bags, the downsized 'luxury' one-person tents w/ tvs & mattresses)? What outfit are you going with? Oh and what country are you from! I'm Australian, in Fremantle, WA. Do you have mountaineering experience?

@janepipkin8139 Месяц назад

wow, many blessings for a successful trip

@peterboone1877 Месяц назад

Anotoli Boukreev wrote a wonderful book on this sad event. I’d be very careful citing anything Krakauer reports. He wrongly blames Boukreev in his book - who was a true hero risking his life. Krakauer seemingly felt guilty for his inability/unwillingness to search for others in the storm and this has coloured his reporting on the event.

@archivist68 Месяц назад

Thank you for your video. So much attention has been focused on Hall's team that I appreciated the information about Scott Fisher. May I suggest that David Breashears' Storm over Everest is also an excellent video to hear more updated information about some of the climbers' perspectives about their ordeal? Maybe you mentioned it? Thanks again!

@thatsmynamesowhat2949 4 дня назад

I typically pass by on videos where the host is mostly talking, but i listened to this whole video. You did an amazing job finding factoids that aren’t in the major reports. Great script friend! Thoroughly enjoyed it and after watching videos like this I have such a respect for those who make this trek!

@mikejohnson201 Месяц назад

my parents sat beside him on an overseas flight and he said to my dad "we got the big E dialed". My father who was the doctor one of the first expeditions from the tibetan side in the very early 80s and had talked to reinhol messner after his solo climb was deeply skeptical. You said it all -trying to make money from people who cant even put crampons on is not smart in the himalayas

@Ja-94166 Месяц назад

You are awesome in your knowledge of these stories you talk us through. After listening to your soothing voice i am as close to feeling i was there. Amazing work my friend please keep it going.

@foyorama Месяц назад

Living in Anchorage for over 40 years I was well aware of the climbing scene, heli skiing and all other mountain sports....Scott Fischer was well known amongst our group of friends and will always be remembered.

@blinderII Месяц назад

You did an excellent job explaining how this tragedy unfolded just by narrating in chronological order. Very easy to follow. Well done! On a side note, there has been a fairly recent (about 8 months ago) interview with Sandy Pittman posted here on youtube. It's quite interesting...she discusses her version of how everything happened, how she was blamed in the media (starting with Krakauer's book, though she doesn't name him) and how she turned to drinking and drugs to cope with the backlash. I can't remember the channel that posted the interview, but all i did was searched her name and found it. I've tuned in to many of your videos...great channel here! RIP to those who lost their lives during that storm.

@Tenebarum Месяц назад

Sandy was scapegoated. She was a paying customer. Whether or not people liked her, she wasn't calling the shots. Scott and Rob were, and they failed.

@stevemorris6790 Месяц назад

But she was catering to death by Scott Fisher, trying the serpas story some where carrying her and I dont know if all “ paying “ customers were that catered to the extreme like she was.

@peach7210 Месяц назад

Really, really well-done video. With you're closing analysis, I learned details I had never known before. The drive to bolster his business probably can't be overstated. But as I was listening to you, another thought came... When we experience something so amazing, so beautiful, so life-altering, there is an innate need (at least this is true for myself) to share that with others. You want them to be allowed to experience the gift that nature has given you. That is a powerful thing.

@LilyGazou Месяц назад

You make a good point. This is how I feel about teaching horsemanship to new students and helping them get to eventually experience a long ride out in nature.

@peach7210 Месяц назад

@@LilyGazou What a wonderful thing to be able to teach and share!

@LuniaVojty Месяц назад

What a great legendary story, thank you! Love your channel❤

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you ! So glad you’re here 🙏

@Rurik8118 Месяц назад

Great share Thom, I’ve stopped at Fischers memorial at Thukla a few times. 🙏🏼 Godspeed to Breashears as well 🏔️ 💫

@melissaeden1219 Месяц назад

Like the person with the previous comment, I too have read several books and watched a few documentaries on this tragic event, but I also still learned something from your video. It's such a poignant story, and you told it with understanding for the situation and for those involved.

@JudyMotto Месяц назад

Thanks for covering this story ❤ very well done 💯

@Bright.Girls.Film. Месяц назад

I enjoyed your retelling and perspective of this. Thank you🙌

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you :) I'm always happy to see your thoughts in the comments!

@debsam77 Месяц назад

Don’t know where I’ve been but this channel is new to me and I’m hooked. I’m talking can’t wait to get a hot shower on this stormy night to hunker down and binge watch….thank you and new subbie!

@IncandescentSmell Месяц назад

Fantastic Video! In David Breashears 2008 documentary, Storm Over Everest, it is actually mentioned that through interview that Makalu Gao continued to ascend because the fallen Taiwanese climber was the one who wanted the team to reach the summit the most. Makalu felt in the moment that the best way to honor him would be continue the climb and reach the summit. Highly recommend the documentary (free on RU-vid) as it has first hand accounts from Makalu, David, Neil, Mike Groom, Beck and others on both Rob Hall’s and Scott Fischer’s teams.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you, this deeper level of intel is important. In another future video I'll expound upon that situation....I went pretty much with David being quite upset about the decision made to ascend. Thanks for watching! I'll check the vid out that you suggest

@makalugau1064 Месяц назад

向David致哀。1996年很多山上發生的事情，若不是親身經歷，而是由第三者轉述就容易失去真實。Scott和Rob以及David我們在攀登期間都有互動，但因為語言隔閡，相互間就比較難於深入理解和溝通，所以容易產生一些誤解。

@IncandescentSmell Месяц назад

@@makalugau1064 Makalu Gau! Wow. Thank you for sharing your side.

@hollydoll29 Месяц назад

A couple thoughts/questions… It seems like you’re being a bit unfair to Pittman, mentioning that she was a weak climber. But she wasn’t a real amateur… i believe she had at least a couple of the 7 summits completed. It does seem that she was struggling that day, but i dont think she was as weak and inexperienced as you say. Also regarding Fischer, didnt he have some stomach or liver condition? I dont know where, but i thought i read that his stomach was part of the issues he was having that day. Unfortunately Boukkreev seems to have caused some of Fischers problems by not being as active a guide (so Fischer went up and down more than he should have). But of course he saved Pittman, Fox, and at least one more person (Madsen?), so hes not the bad guy by any means. its just unfortunate that Boukreev and Fischer weren’t clearer and on the same page about their roles.

@ratgirl34 Месяц назад

Man, I wasn’t even ten years old in ‘96. I vaguely remember my dad talking about something on Everest. One of the first places I ever decided I never wanted to be.

@katamine11 Месяц назад

I was gonna say I wasn’t even born yet, but then I remembered that I was and I’m old af now lol

@dreamingofstarlight499 Месяц назад

Fantastic video, fantastic narration and thank you for being both very descriptive and factual, using the natural environment for drama and being respected to everyone involved

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and narration....the voice has done me well in many a telephone conversation, let me tell you lol

@scottruplin 3 дня назад

Excellent video essay, thanks. I was in Peace Corps Nepal, hiking up in Solu Khumbu, in April-May 1995, and met the Rob Hall expedition, who asked me to take group photos of them. Weather didn't permit even an attempt that year, and I was very saddened to hear about the events of 1996.

@lilithstribe Месяц назад

Great job Thom! Thank you for sharing your passion and knowledge. 💙🙏💙

@robschachter-rj2uo Месяц назад

Thank u! Excellent summary. What’s surprising was that both Fischer and hall turned back clients on previous climbs for not meeting the 2 pm deadline. It’s sad that sound judgement gave way to hubris.

@Tenebarum Месяц назад

The first time I ever saw a real mountain was in New Hampshire in June 1996. A lot of people were talking about Scott Fischer. I never knew who he was until i started down the Everest rabbit hole a couple of weeks ago. Scott flew too close to the surface of the sun. Great video. Also, Storm over Everest is the most beautifully made documentary I've seen.

@MCrvngraddip2013 Месяц назад

Always so eloquently put. I would of been 5 when this happened but as I've commented before, it was the first event that got me interested in mountaineering. After being diagnosed with Bipolar type 2 in 2022 I became a recluse for 4 months. Not leaving the house for 6 weeks. But it was covid and the time above that allowed me time to explore the mountains of Nepal/Himalayas. Scott's legacy goes on in books, movies and documentaries. I loved hearing about Ed V and Scott's ascent of K2. He and Ed offer great advice for not just the mountains but life too. However, still to this day do I believe Sandy P shouldn't of been allowed up there. Yes you could say the same for others but she's was an obvious one. Thank you once again for this content. Always so empathetic.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks for watching and thank you for sharing a bit of your story. I'm very familiar with Bipolar 2, and know it can completely destroy a person (and is heartbreaking for those around that person). Your take on Sandy P is on point...there are so many angles to the story, really. I'm really glad you found the channel :)

@sheilabloom6735 21 день назад

He and Rob I think were mostly responsible for the disaster.

@christinacarter4454 Месяц назад

Just wanted to drop a comment to say I really appreciate your videos! Everest stories fascinate me - not so much the mountain itself but the limits to which it pushes the people who climb it. Your perspective is really interesting and I'm really enjoying your channel :D

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks so much, I appreciate that you took the time to comment and let me know. I love bringing people together and sharing stories like this. Welcome and thank you!

@eigleenalegri2664 Месяц назад

What intrigues me is how irrational behavior leads to disaster. Especially, group think.

@user-or4hs7xq9u Месяц назад

Another very interesting and informative video 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@SuperSlappy25 Месяц назад

Love your channel, man. Everest is a fascinating but deadly place.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks so much for reaching out and saying so....it's great having you here!

@ronl8495 Месяц назад

I think you’re right on with your assessment Thom, visions of fame and glory was the overriding factor in these senseless deaths! Great video, professionally done! I look forward to more! 😎

@melodymacken9788 Месяц назад

Brilliant conversation. Rotorua, New Zealand 🇳🇿

@michaelsproule2508 Месяц назад

Thanks, Thom for the great video, done with respect for everyone involved. What were the storm forecasting abilities in 1996? Did they know a huge storm was coming at all?

@lindasd7591 Месяц назад

Excellent presentation!

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you, really appreciate you letting me know!

@lindasd7591 Месяц назад

Just learned of David Breshears' passing... 😔...such an incredible person.

@Chris-gk3xb Месяц назад

Excellent summary of the disaster, thanks. RIP to all from the 1996 storm. And now RIP to David Breashears also, pro's Pro.

@TheAngelchia Месяц назад

Thanks very much for the video and your thoughts. I've visited Scott's memorial in Nepal and it was a cold, windy, snowy day with very low visibility. Made him seem closer in some way. I admire his spirit tremendously. After reading many books on the 1996 event, I think it was inevitable that something like this would happen as climbing Everest increased in popularity. Whenever we humans start to feel that we are invincible and forget how dwarfed we are by nature, she has a way of pulling us back in line.

@bcb912 Месяц назад

You're a great storyteller. That they are true stories is a weird real life feeling.

@Wind_Rapport Месяц назад

my favorite storyteller on youtube - yeah dude!

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks so much!

@ianclark2665 Месяц назад

Great channel, thank you.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

I really appreciate it, thank you!

@cheneyish Месяц назад

You are very interesting to listen to, well done on your research and presentation, carla from NZ

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thanks Carla, really glad you found the channel and it's very nice of you to say!

@maxib870 Месяц назад

Great video thank you 🙏

@joyleenpoortier7496 Месяц назад

I have heard so much about Rob halls death but I did not know very much about Scott fisher that you for sharing

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

You're welcome...my hopes were to fill in some gaps, since I couldn't find much on Scott either. Thanks so much for watching!

@davidrioux611 Месяц назад

Aside from this video, I have incidentally exchanged commentary with Michael Tracy. I find his knowledge of mountaineering and history of events to be lacking in content, information, and far from accurate. Our commentary was focused on sherpas while his responses showed ignorance to how mountaineering and the use of sherpas has changed and evolved, how clients being guided are now the majority and government mandates are requiring assigning sherpas to climbers, clients, and teams.This has lead to the sherpas’ having entitlement attitude towards climbers. He furthermore doesn’t understand the the training they have participated in learning comes from climbers and guides visiting their country through time and history. He also doesn’t understand sherpas and sherpas that assume guiding position are different people. Sherpas that have been educated and can assume guiding positions total far fewer individuals. Through my exposure to Michael I am now aware that his videos are a directed attack on this channel and Mark. Reflecting on his ignorance with commentary exchange, he should refrain from producing ANY videos. In our exchange, the 2012 -13 outburst of sherpas against Ueli, Jon and Simon were cited as examples to debate point of view. Then he included Messner in his comment which was outrageously out of line, considering history and timeframe. He doesn’t understand how misguided his interpretation is!!! Anyway, now would be a perfect time to produce the video we discussed in your last response to me.

@Dk-xp3yx Месяц назад

Just love ur channel,i love everything about everest,what great man Rob hall was not leaving his client alone,and as u say Scott fisher was a good man,oh and i am absolutely obsessed with mallory and ervine mystery,Great job...

@Tenebarum Месяц назад

But Rob ultimately left his other clients behind.

@stevemorris6790 Месяц назад

But he had other people working for him . And Rob was a great person as he could have left and save his life specially as his wife was very pregnant.

@denim_ak Месяц назад

You sort of say the same thing in your conclusion here but I really love how Jon krakauer in the end on Into Thin Air sums up wether the mountaineering community learned from the 96 Everest disaster by talking about the mistakes that were made within the very next year that lead to more unnecessary deaths from poor judgment. I don’t remember exactly how he worded it but I remember it being a great conclusion to the book.

@jaymanitu8421 Месяц назад

such clear analysis. very calming voice

@Thankyou423.3 Месяц назад

Awesome video!

@elizabethholloway6945 Месяц назад

Thanks!

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Thank you so much for your amazing gift, I truly appreciate it!

@rocketrider1405 Месяц назад

Sandy P wasn’t the only client of Fisher or Hall who could be described as a liability.

@reidawg72 Месяц назад

Anyone who knows about this disaster, knows that. What we also know is that Sandy P had to be short-roped up the mtn which directly caused a cascade of time problems that led up to the tragedy. She also came off as totally obnoxious (bf and during) and ungrateful (after). So, she does come in for special scrutiny.

@Tenebarum Месяц назад

@@reidawg72So does Scott. He never should have allowed Sandy special treatment. That's on him, not Sandy.

@19thnervousbreakdown80 Месяц назад

Stick together sister! Damn the facts when agendas and motives become more important.

@eigleenalegri2664 Месяц назад

Scott Fisher's responsibilty

@gobbollino2688 14 дней назад

No, but I get the feeling that had she not been there it would have been different. Just taking the Sherpa out of the equation (to tow her up to the top) may have set off a chain of fatal events

@xandergreene1748 Месяц назад

thank you, as a pakistani, born in Rawal Pindi, i love your content. currently living in Taos, i too play guitar and play in mountains.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Wonderful having you here. I truly loved the time I spent in Rawal Pindi. I had a magical experience in Pakistan and have told people on many occasions it is the most beautiful place I have ever visited.... Thanks for reaching out! Perhaps a jam session in Taos some day? :)

@JudithHaworth-yu6oz Месяц назад

Concise explanation. Well done.

@JohnDavidHays Месяц назад

Good long form episode!

@z50king29 Месяц назад

Great job!

@firashebili Месяц назад

good objective analysis

@DrRockso0 Месяц назад

I was obsessed with Everest when I was a younger man. If you were like me, read Into Into Thin Air. It will give you a very good idea of what life is like in the high mountains.

@ValeskaTruax Месяц назад

Well it made me think most of the high altitude climbers are crazy.

@ValeskaTruax Месяц назад

Best book I have ever read.

@DrRockso0 Месяц назад

Seriously, I think I read it in two days. I couldn’t put it down.

@ValeskaTruax Месяц назад

@@DrRockso0 me neither

@themenopausetalks Месяц назад

Just join as a member! Congrats on the awesome content

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Welcome aboard! Thank you so much, it's great having you here :)

@davidrioux611 Месяц назад

Great video

@humanbeing2420 Месяц назад

John Krakauer's Into Thin Air is essential reading for anyone remotely interested in mountaineering. And for anyone who likes a good, immersive read.

@sweetweetly Месяц назад

So is ‘The Climb’ by Anatoli Bourkreev. Different recollections.

@J24J Месяц назад

Touching the Void, The White Spider, and The Boardman Tasker Omnibus would be a great start. And Anatoli’s book is far better than the book by the author who defamed his character.

@humanbeing2420 Месяц назад

@@J24J As I recall, Krakauer wrote that Boukreev descended from the summit to his tent at Camp Four and went to sleep while some of the clients for whom he was responsible were still up on the mountain - an account corroborated by several other people involved. Is that not the case? But Krakauer also wrote that Boukreev, once awakened and made aware of the circumstances, jumped into action and saved several lives by finding lost climbers and leading them back to their tents. Krakauer gave Boukreev full credit and praise for that act of heroism irrespective of his preceding actions.

@J24J Месяц назад

@@humanbeing2420 You have to remember that Krakauer was on Rob Hall’s team, not Scott and Anatoli’s. So everything he said is not firsthand knowledge. Read The Climb before you say any more. Lene Gammelgaard, who was also on the Mountain Madness team, wrote a book about that tragedy as well. You can’t just read something written by a guy who wasn’t even on Anatoli’s team but professes to know what went on with Anatoli and Scott’s plans, discussions, strategies, and agreements.

@humanbeing2420 Месяц назад

@@J24J I know Krakauer was on another team, but both went to the summit that day and they were pooling resources to some degree, such that the division between the two teams wasn't very meaningful for purposes of recalling what happened over the relevant time period. In any event, I'll check out the The Climb. I have no dog in the fight, frankly. My original point was just that the book's a fantastic read. That's still the case even if Krakauer failed to adequately deify Anatoli Boukreev.

@nuancolar7304 Месяц назад

How did they reconcile having a strict turnaround time, but also a standing order to wait on the Summit until the team leader decides for everyone to start descending. That's messed up.

@janepipkin8139 Месяц назад

I liked the analysis in the video here; what I think was missing was the entire team understanding the plan then having group sync-points to adjust/replan when something started to change; so just clearer communication then. Especially when high altiude physical stress starts to fog the brain. Sounds like Scott, for example, was definitely no longer thinking clearly when he continued to summit as his team was descending and it was already past his turnaround time. There is also still some confusion about which sherpas were originally supposed to run that first fixed line when the other wasn't available because helping Sandy; in one account I saw, there were two that were supposed to do that and the one helping Sandy made sure they had his rope to do so.

@chriscon8463 26 дней назад

Great synopsis, Sir! I just read Krakauer’s book. I’m not a mountain climber, but in the Air Force, we had to do hypobaric chamber training every 5 years. This was so we could recognize the insidious onset of hypoxia at altitude, and know how we personally react in an environment with little oxygen. Doing this, I realized quickly that I would have make a terrible Sherpa. We would also study mishaps & learn from them, and there was usually a “chain of events” leading to a crash. That seems to be the case here, too. Tragic!

@eigleenalegri2664 Месяц назад

Well done! An important point I heard is that when a storm approaches the air pressure drops. Even LESS oxygen. And there was an incident where Andy Harris was asked to lower the oxygen flow on a climbers tank to conserve and he turned the control to higher. Harris had also reported that the oxygen tanks they cached were all empty. I feel that had Boukrev hadn't rested after his summit he couldn't have made two trips to get the climbers.

@woofna1948 Месяц назад

Great video. I appreciated your measured tone with respect to this tragedy. This is a good illustration of what happens at the intersection of Safety and Commerce. Both Fisher and Hall were more than qualified and fit enough to get to the summit and back on their own. However, the same cannot be said of many or their clients. Pittman certainly had no business being on the mountain. The litany of mistakes, the failure to honor their previous turn-back time, the diminishing margin for error - all combined to create the disaster. The storm caught them by surprise, but it's no secret that big mountains "create their own weather". The financial pressure to accept unqualified clients and guide them to the summit amid great media fanfare is a perfect recipe for disaster when the weather turns on you. These climbs require exceptional physical and mental stamina. You can blather all day long about having determination and a "can-do" spirit, but if your legs crap out on the descent because you simply run out of gas, you're likely going to die. You get clumsy, you get slow, maybe run out of oxygen - it's a cascading series of setbacks that can overwhelm even the best climbers. The deaths of both Fisher and Hall are a testimony to that. Krakauer, no slouch when it comes to climbing, wrote an excellent and sympathetic book, but the fact that he properly appreciated the commercial trap that Fisher and Hall fell into resulted in a lot of criticism from people in the climbing community who didn't like the very accurate conclusions he drew. I think the intervening years have demonstrated that the growing commercial fiasco on Everest is a continuing disaster waiting to happen. Moulton Avery

@jimm244 Месяц назад

Thank you for your insight and opinion.

@pugilemoltobene3708 Месяц назад

Hey Thom! Maybe a little tribute to Dave B? He passed last week. Way too young. Did a lot of good in the higher camps in ‘96. Also…when I was climbing up in the PacNW circa 2000-2003, Dave Hahn, with whom I later did a Denali W Buttress with, said of Scott, ‘he takes a lot chances’. Not sure if they ever went on any expeds together(doubt it as they worked for different companies), but David said it. I’ll bet that it was others’ impressions of Scott that David was referring to.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

Yes, I'm truly bummed that I didn't know about David at the time I'd posted this video....I would have included more about his legacy. Perhaps in another video about '96....that would be a place to do it. He was a cut above. Super interesting about what Dave H said to you. Dave knew (knows) his stuff....how cool you were on Denali with him. Talk about a legend!

@kevinkrayna3097 Месяц назад

David Breashears you will be missed. You were a positive influence for us looking at the history of recent mountaineering.

@lauratroxel24 Месяц назад

It seems to me, that during this time period on Everest it was a party atmosphere. People died bcz they didn't follow the rules set by the leaders. Scott Fischer didnt need to prove anything. He already would have known everyone made the summit. Its so sad and heartwrenching for what happened that day up there.

@frenchfree Месяц назад

I had a beer with Scott at a trade show just before he left for the trip. We were gonna guide a trip the following year in Pakistan. probably late night beer talking. I understood from Krakauer that Anatoli fixed the ropes with Krakauer close behind?? Not beidelman?? I heard that Scott had a bout of flue or upper restore infection sometime before. Taking antibiotics and then a big event are difficult. I also understand that Krakauer was there originally to critique the concept of guiding on Everest and then given the happenings changed his editorial. incidentally for those who may not know, Dave B was considered by sherpas to be one of the strongest climbers around.

@Riversdoc11deff Месяц назад

Thank you for your work. The fact that you narrate it so well, and appear talking on camera, is a treasure, in this era of mediocre AI generated RU-vid Channels. 🙏🏻

@dougcoleburn1579 Месяц назад

Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. It is amazing to me though that for how skilled and methodical Rob Hall was about the procedure of climbing Everest that all of this happened. I have never done so much reading about this tragedy in my life. It's very interesting yet so sad.

@NefariousEnough Месяц назад

My thoughts are with the friends, family and those who crossed the path in life of David Breashears. Wishing all of them the best in this difficult time. Many thanks, Thom.

@EverestMystery Месяц назад

I was fortunate to know him, work with him and share some intense conversations about Everest and beyond, one in particular I recall was in Namche Bazaar after the Everest was closed in 2014. I'm frankly stunned, truth be told. It's a big loss.

@tracycameron5099 Месяц назад

Ive been obsessed with this Shakespearean drama. Watched everything a few times. Still canrt reconcile it. I think it says alot that Sandi Pittman won't give any nterviews. Beck Wethers, superhero. However concerning Scott, I think youre right, . .and he took himself too seriously maybe, assuming he could just "do ir" . Tipped over the edge of reason. Very sad indeed.

@rocketrider1405 Месяц назад

She could have shown some gratitude for the man who saved her life. That really made her look worse.

@zztop4996 Месяц назад

Find my main comment here. She did one in 2023. Info is in my comment.

@eigleenalegri2664 Месяц назад

I agree with the analogy of the Shakespearean tragedy. Especially when the adverse effects are of the hero's making

@rocketrider1405 Месяц назад

Maybe she signed a confidentiality agreement with those who contracted her to write about her Everest adventure.

@CatherineHomer Месяц назад

Very well done!

@pindrop9536 Месяц назад

Great video. I've always found it odd how blame seemed to be assigned to Fischer and Boukreev when their entire team survived.

@thelogicaldanger Месяц назад

People blame them because they hypothesize that if Boukreev had used oxygen (which is now the standard that guides always use oxygen....but wasn't at the time) and if Fischer had been more rested, then they would have been able to save members on the other team. Ultimately, the other team wasn't their responsibility, although I'm sure if Fischer were rested and survived, and Boukreev were rested, both would have tried to save more people, and perhaps they would have. But its impossible to know for sure, maybe both would have then died tried to go back up and find Rob Hall and the postman. I think its fair to criticize/critique what they could have done differently, so those mistakes aren't made in the future, but they are certainly not to blame for anyone's death (well Fischer can probably be blamed for his own death, to some extent.)

@pindrop9536 Месяц назад

@@thelogicaldanger my point was that there were other people on the mountain who are treated much more kindly, but made mistakes that led directly to deaths.

@thelogicaldanger Месяц назад

@@pindrop9536 I am not sure how you expected anyone to know that was your point, when the only people mentioned in your comment were Fischer 7 Boukreeve. you didn't even alude to anyone else, other than saying "their entire team survived." In your response, I have no idea who you are referring to when you say "other people on the mountain who are treated much more kindly." Fischer & Boukreeve were the paid guides, so of course its expected that they would receive more criticism than paying clients.

@pindrop9536 Месяц назад

@@thelogicaldanger There were other groups who were far more inexperienced, decided to combine groups and dilute responsibility, continued taking clients after the turnaround time and pulled guides away from their clients. But I am stating that blame was unfairly aimed at the largely successful group, rather than those that failed and lost clients.

@thelogicaldanger Месяц назад

@@pindrop9536 I still have no idea what people you are talking about. Rob Hall? Him and Andy died, and they have both received plenty of criticism. The Indian group? American media focused pretty much on the groups with Americans in them, most people don't know there was an Indian group on the other side climbing. They know about Greenboots, but have no idea that was the year he died. Among mountain sources, I've seen plenty of criticism of the Indian group. The Chinese group? They did not have anyone die the day of the storm. So I really don't know who you are talking about, or why you insist on being vague. I mean, why bother commenting in the first place with vague comment that had nothing to do with your point, if you aren't going to elaborate on exactly who you think didn't get criticism, that should have got criticism.