Dee-1 & Turk Get Into About Whether Or Not Meek & Ross Are Glorifying Crime In Their Music... For more Dee-1 Content click the links below! IG: / dee1music RU-vid: / dee1music Linktree: linktr.ee/dee1...
I stand with what was going on before there was a gangster rap. I will not attempt to scapegoat gangster rap for something I saw before there was a gangster rap.
as an avid Rozay listener, he most certainly is. He told us he knew the real Noriega, and he owes him a hundred favors 😂...and instead of copping to being a CO. He first denied it, then spun it as something like he was a dirty CO. He's always in character. I'm still amazed the real Rick Ross lost the case to officer ricky 😂
And let's not forget when he apologized for the molly line putting in pills of women's drinks smh. Dee got a right to call out the lack of growth in his art.
“Rappers only talk about keys, it's all poison How could you call yourself MCs? You ain't poison Think about the kids you mislead with the poison “ NAS
B High made some valid points about checking the power source. I still believe however that it’s a choice. You don’t have to do bad or say bad things to bring about something good. There are other ways to get it. And if you don’t think so, then that’s a matter of expanding your mentality. As a black man from the gutter, I refused to believe that my future was the jail house, drug dealing, or premature death.
Dee-1, of course, spoke much truth - but most times it’s the way you communicate things that determines the reaction you get. Turk said a major key. In the internet age, what you speak on gives it power. To get people to listen, it’s more powerful to focus on what appreciate about a person and build that person up to encourage a person to do better that way. Be their best self. I’ve seen Ross embrace a lot of people who have a message. But it’s the way they came across his desk. When I was younger, living in the South, whenever we messed up.. all the elders, especially the older black women would surround us and remind us of who we are. They would speak so much life into you that you would feel ashamed on your own about what you did. If they came at us the way people jump on instagram, it would fall on deaf ears and we would get defensive the same way these rappers do. And we knew them. It would hit even more different from someone we didn’t even know.
Turk is coming from the perspective of someone who still wants to be in the good graces of those artists and mingle with them. That's when you should phrase things a certain way to soften the blow to their feelings...to maintain relationships. Dee-1 doesn't care about any of that.
13:07 here’s the issue with this comment: we still have to blame the artists bc THEY are making the song. It ain’t about the company putting it out. They can’t put out something you didn’t make. You still have a choice. And this goes back to the point of do you care more about what God say or the money. You still have a choice.
The dilemma I see in Turk and honestly myself is that will God truly provide everything I need if I live righteously. It’s tough at times. I believe he will. But it’s still tough
Turk wants the good to outweigh the bad, but that’s not the reality of the situation. We can see the results of the bad. You can’t destroy 9 lives and save one and expect to be labeled a hero.
Man wat u talkin bout nietha one of these artist destroyed lives dat we kno of but we do kno they give back to their community, we do kno they put ppl n positions to change their lives...these ain't no new artist these 10 year plus vets...who've made positive impacts on their respective communities dude jus tryin to push his ideology on ppl he dnt even kno dats his mission not theirs they fight theirs da way they want n have to fight it not da wat he want dem to...
Exactly. You can’t be Meek Mill. You can’t make yourself the face of prison reform only to turn around and still release prison bound music. He’s ultra goofy for that and Dee 1 was right for calling him out on that. Not to mention people forget Meek is damn near 40 so he can’t even use the age excuse
Then why does he entertain? Smfh. This ain't nothing new. He's been in the game 20 years and they were saying "pick a side" before him. The problem is that he only wants to fight entertainers. That's a weak side to be on.
@@LurnWell did he say he entertains? That he's an entertainer? From my point of view, he's a teacher. And from your comment, I'd say you can stand to gain and learn a thing or two from what he's teaching. And it's not a weak dude to be on. Music is his platform. And he's challenging his colleagues to do better with this platform which, in case you didn't know, reaches millions. Instead of negativity and opposition, how about bringing positivity to the convo. How about we as a people turn a new leaf, turn to another page full of excellence and growth instead of continuously being deceived. And "entertainers" living on screen and in music, lives of debauchery and materialism. We won't get the respect and consideration we need until then. Open your eyes. We the only ones that put out music daily that degrades our communities, homes, and women even. The only ones. The music execs do this and it's not by accident. To keep us divided and uneducated so that we can not truly excel. Harden not your heart to wisdom and knowledge. Or keep this same energy and go post on Rick Ross and Meek Mill and Jim Jones, etc. page about their unsettling and substance-lacking material.
@@terrancerobinson20 You misunderstood. I'm saying he's in the entertainment business. It doesn't matter what he says. That's what he is. Being a teacher has nothing to do with it. I know teachers from the neighborhoods and they still improperly handled the disconnect. You don't know what I could gain, because you don't know me. I know the Bible, this culture, and history "extremely" well. Yall can pull out the pom poms, but I'm good. This conversation isn't anything new. The gangs are influencing the music. His best argument after being in the game for 20 years is to go at the artists that actually have a positive perception on business, entrepreneurship, reform , etc... Weak strategy, and cowardly, because the gangs are influencing the music and he won't make it a topic, because it's a harder difficulty.
I agree, That’s why I would stand up in your church and call out all y’all male minsters messing with each other. Using the choir as a cover. Let not stop at rap
I’ve followed Dee-1’s career for a long time. There are 3 things that he is unapologetically bold about being: black, educated, dedicated to serving Christ in word & in deed. I think we’re so familiar with people playing church, that when we actually see someone standing firm in their faith, our flesh gets uncomfortable. Dee-1 doesn’t need clout (check his track record). He points people back to Christ. And I will always salute him for that. We can’t serve 2 masters (Matthew 6:24-26). At the end of the day, we all will leave here one day & have to give an account for everything that we’ve done to the One who created us. This is bigger than Ross, Meek & even Dee-1. Souls are on the line. Dee-1, thank you for your boldness, bro. ✝️
It’s still clout chasing. Because let your works speak for itself. Meek and Ross has been the same way since day one. So with that said why would you ever want to align your brand and mindset with those gentlemen other than you know you want to go viral off of the controversy. That’s like the guy who openly admitted he lied just to do more charity work and said Kanye was misusing the homeless on skid Row. He could have delivered his same messaging without speaking on those individuals especially when he was telling people to keep tagging them in comments.
@@ianrussellallcaps I understand where you’re coming from. But, the message still stands. It’s bigger than Dee-1, the rappers who were tagged, and even you & I. If clout wasn’t a thing, eternity still is. That’s what matters, fam. God bless you. ✝️
@@ianrussellallcaps No, I think he’s in a position to call them out on it. You know what’s funny? If he was just some Pastor or Some Other Person with not as much following people would’ve said those same things, yet worse. “Clout-Chasing” is common nowadays, but that doesn’t mean everyone is going to do it - Will he benefit from calling out those rappers? Sure, but if it was another rapper with not as big of a following, who hadn’t caused as much of a stir / do you think Meek Mill or Rick Ross would’ve even taken the time to respond? Let’s be real here, because he didn’t have to call them out for what he called them out for if it was just Clout-Chasing.
Turk is like all of us, it’s hard to let go of the Nostalgia of the music we grow up on so he’s arguing regurgitated cliche defenses for pushing garbage
If Jesus was standing in your face it wouldn't be hard. Just remember He's always watching and maybe that will make it easier for you. Just a suggestion.
I wish us as a ppl would stop playing stupid we all know what the brother Dee 1 was talking about from the jump 💯 keep pressing the issue cause the babies need it
No doubt! Because we know what Dee is saying is TRUE but many don’t want to be confronted with Truth because it forces us to conform to it or ignorantly reject it.
He said it perfectly when he said he drew a line in the sand and people are uncomfortable because he's forcing you to choose a side. A lot of people are playing stupid because it's uncomfortable and he's throwing water on us to shake us out of this brainwashing.
You can’t sway Dee-1 values. He stands on business no matter how anybody tries to explain, re-word, spin it, flip it,etc. His rebuttal’s are impeccable.
I love this conversation. Dee 1 I stand with you 100th percent. Turk, I love your feedback and some of the things you are saying. We need more accountability in Hip hop today . Great job, fellows .
Then why u don’t listen to dee 1 music & jus stop listening to the rappers u feel not holding accountability. Or putting out music that’s killing the youth. U don’t have to listen to something that u don’t want to hear. I don’t wanna hear country music so I don’t even listen to it. U don’t have to call out somebody for something u don’t agree with
It’s a problem when we can get offended with being held accountable. I like how Dee 1 coming from a place of love for the community, not personal gain or publicly.
Yeah, no attack or beef detected. Personally, I like to be around people who keep it real enough call me out when I’m wrong. If I’m tryna build and am being a detriment to what I’m tryna see come up, why let me keep thinking that if you genuinely care. Especially if we tryna build the same thing up. It might sting but growth can come after
Dee-1 is on his Godly Path and he’s right… Just look back at the path of Destruction that was sowed from these Lower Vibration Levels while chasing the Worldly Flesh and Wealth…💯💯💯
Exactly. And it’s not a surprise that somebody that wasn’t or maybe still isn’t on a godly path (Turk) disagrees with him. Of course you disagree when you’re music added to that destruction
I was just saying how I loved Lil Kim growing up.. but I knew it was entertainment and I knew it wasn't something to aspire to. Not everyone knows this.. It is toxic trash being promoted to black ppl. Also not telling the story that it's ta terrible life and there's a better way. That's not what they do!
You can't serve 2 masters.... nuff said. Also I'd like to add that giving away turkeys to homeless people is crazy. Where tf a homeless person gone cook a raw Turkey?
@@sigmasiren7 Mckenley knows better, he's just trying to be provocative. Dudes like that like to deflect from the simple issue at hand, and try to elaborate outside of context. Dee-1 makes some people insecure, and its not that they disagree its that they feel the need to intellectually compete.
People trying to justify their genocide style of music is always crazy to me. We all know murder music is the product. Most hate on the actual songs about the struggle
@jman1562001 Rick Ross won't even answer the man Turk's calls bro. And Dee-1 hotter than Turk these days, so Turk knows he can't talk to him privately and ehy does he care for him to? Why so much sympathy for the public sacrifices of the ppl doing the sacrificing of the common person in the community being misled?
Dee-1 is showin yall u don't have to glorify negativity to sell records. You can still be positive n speak life and be jammin! If you 50, u shouldn't be rappin wit da mentality of a 20 yr old
I was saying the same thing but this is good for Dee 1 he’s going to high places & this is practice for him to stay on his toes & be sharp. I feel this will be 1 of many he’s going to have a Charleston White rollout where he goes from podcast to podcast place to place pushing his strong message against a billion dollar industry im here for it. It’s refreshing I see a lot of old Og MCs coming out to speak out as well like KRS1.
You know it's bad when many are out here defending it, and it's effect on the culture. It's become a idol to many, with its own commandments smh... (Not all of it)
It’s because we don’t want own hip hop we got ish people pushing up what they believe our community is…and the ones that are bosses are still subject to them folks because they are the ones who have the funds to distribute the poison into our community but any music that is high vibrational is put in the underground and under funded and under utilized
Turk too busy tryna stay in good graces with these industry ppl. What he fail to realize he’ll always have to if they don’t wanna throw him licks. That’s why he need to focus on his own shit An won’t have to kiss ass just to eat.
I like Turk but bro u gotta fall back on this one. Dee1 standing on principle no compromise. All these other niggas worried about a bag. You can stand on principle and be controlled by tge dollar.
Turk too busy tryna stay in good graces with these industry ppl. What he fail to realize he’ll always have to if they don’t wanna throw him licks. That’s why he need to focus on his own shit An won’t have to kiss ass just to eat.
Turk you wasn't ready for it an you was very unmatched to Dee-1 i been with this guy for so many years. Dont wanna let you down. Powerful song of many. Stop trying to be someone your not
Big ups to Dee1 for his boldness. But the truth of the matter is, there is no point of speakn against wicked rhymes comin from secular artists bcuz out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. So as long as they have hardened hearts, it will always produce a wicked tongue. So I think it would be best to try & teach them the importance of purifying their heart so they can actually take pleasure or even hav a desire to use their voices for the glory of God.. Positively is always gud, but it's not gud enough to save your soul. Only righteousness is
I completely agree with you. I wish Dee-1 had shared the gospel while on Sway. Focus on the good news of Christ. His message is solid but when you don't have Christ, all that will happen is your Spirit will agitate the demons.
Dee 1 is 💯 correct. We are hypocrites. Rappers gotta stop with the "It's up to the parents bs." We all know kids listen to their athletes and rappers before any parent
@@LurnWell Biased towards negativity? No such thing, Men don't act on emotion we stand fearlessly on truth and don't make weak excuses for our short comings. Turk knows there is nothing positive about CMR & the music they make. But if it got you to a level where you no longer have to do it why not make that positive change.
@@DSR1972 Nah, biased towards the perspective of others. Turk wasn't being negative. Weak excuses for shortcomings? Lol. You have no idea about the real problems if this is your take. Murder rates in some cities were even higher than now before gangster rap took off. Keep blaming rappers and see how far it gets you. Entertainers can't raise our children. Real gangs are influencing the music, not the other way around. Old conversation for new fools.
@@LurnWell You clearly lack understanding, no one is saying the music incites violence, it's about how black people are portrayed by the industry to the world we know crime existed before rap & I shouldn't have to tell you this, It's the negative image of black people that makes other people see us in a negative way and this affects us in a bad way. Example Young Thug's lyrics are being used against him in court, anyone dressed in hip hop fashion is looked at as a street thug, people who never met urban blacks think that's all we do is shoot & sell drugs. Rap reinforces those stereotypes. It's the image and for weak minded people it's influence & motivation to do the things they here in the music. Wake up man Your cypher is incomplete you're at 120 degrees. You need to get to 360 degrees.
@@DSR1972 I don't lack understanding. I understand "everything" he's saying. I lack cheerleading skills. I'm not doing cartwheels on everything he says. This is a poor strategy. Saving are children is more import than presentation. If we don't save the kids, there's no future to present. The gangs are influencing the music, not the other way around. Young Thug is a "gang member". This isn't about if rap has bad examples. This is about what's the most important step right now , and getting at those that actually do things for the community is a poor strategy. If you don't get that, then you lack understanding. Your insults are proof of your ignorance. Don't sound smart. Be smart... And I would never call another man "The Father", because I grew up with one. Each it's own... but I'll leave that at that. This is a weak fight.
Turk in over his head on this one. Dee1 is simply saying stop spitting gangsta shit, it’s counterproductive and not an established artist’s reality. Not to mention if a youngster is on 10 and this song comes on through out the day 50 times further indoctrinating them into violence.
Pure programming. Now u can definitely c it. They program us by playing only 6 songs on the radio. So you're hearing the same songs every 20 minutes in most cities 😮
That’s dumb it was violence before music.. you are saying music cause violence that’s dumb AF to say.. see you believe that Denzel was a dirty cop in real life.. and if the kids think that it’s the parents fault..
@@WillOnCodeit contributes, we have rappers going from suburban kids to dying in the streets. Claiming gangs after the fact. Glorifying neighborhoods and streets they’re not even from. When I bounced in nightclubs when certain songs came on it was a 95% chance a fight was going down, a young man could be at his tipping point but he been listening to that gangsta shit all day and 15 seconds of a bad decision causes a lifetime of regret. Say what you will but why contribute to the destruction pass a certain point, if you’re an upcoming artist and that’s your truth then cool but if you’ve been rapping that same s*** since 2006 the gtfoh.
Everyone is missing the point. The artist he's talking about are all over 35 years old. And to be this old rapping about shit you rapped about 20 years ago doesn't make any sense.
When Truth is at an all time low in our lives & When we are confronted with it, it backs us in a corner and we’re forced to reject it or conform to it.
Dee1 is right about female persona in the industry and in the same sense they try to shield their kids from that. So what about those young ladies out there that see only that side and think it’s right. Same with male persona that promotes recklessness
You’re watching an aware, mature and intelligent Brother talking to a Brother who’s still making excuses for some of our overly ignorant behavior, images and messages. Either they played us or we played ourselves but the negativity and violence got out of control.
real community holds each other accountable. it's not tearing somebody down to tell them they are wrong, so that they can make a change for the better. the back and forth is necessary sometimes. it teaches to stand up for what is right.
While I respect the stand that Dee 1 takes on the music. However I feel that Turk is making some good points on how to address negative things. Also, as long as I have lived, some of the most public religious people take stands on one thing, and have other flaws that are cringy.
I NEVER listened to music & committed a crime or did VIOLENCE cuz of the music! Music is THE MIRROR of your ENVIROMENT. Some choose NOT to reflect or REPORT what the experience or see. f everyone did what DEE-1 wants the rap game would crater & all wed listen to would be ole skool rap!
Turk Turk Turk just stop Big Dogg.....Smh!!! Turk keeps tryna justify what they Rap About cause he does the same!!! Hypocritical....Saying stop the Violence but u portraying the Violence!!!
Turk is wrong on this one. We all know this music is negative. And it should have been an interview with just Dee1 Not Turk. I wanted to hear what Dee1 is saying.
facts! and he coming in ross defense still, when ross has shitted on him…lets be real these guys are NOT motivating or inspiring Nothing but crashing out🤷🏽♂️
He had no reply for Turk asking him why we can't do something together, instead of just criticizing. Dee 1 is out here picking easy targets that actually do things for the community. He's been in the game for 20 years and his best fight back is "rap music is violent"? Smfh. Attacking influencers and entertainers ain't it. You have to go to the source of the problem, and it's not rappers.
