Deep Cave Dive at Roubidoux Spring, MO 

Thank you.

Thanks for watching. It can get fairly complicated but that comes as you start doing more technical dives. With practice it’s no more difficult than suiting up in a recreational setup, just more steps. Maybe some day you’ll give diving a try. It’s lots of fun.

It’s always a great time. Can’t wait to go back when there’s slightly less flow. Lol. Next time I’ll bring a couple AL80’s for staged bailout to go farther in. It was just starting to get I interesting when we turned the dive.

Thanks for watching.

Thanks Michal.

Def a must for any cave diver. I live in the Midwest and like to dive all year long so cave diving is the only option in the winter. I don’t mind the cold and the water is a balmy 50 ish degrees all year no mater the outside temp. lol

That’s awesome. My daughter is in Ft. Leonard Wood. It’s a really cool area by the spring.

Lol. It’s more cumbersome than painful but I get what your saying. The biggest problem I had there was the current blowing me around. I typically use the tailgate of my truck. However, since my last video, I’ve done a few dives with different undergarments. Completely changed how much weight I need. Dropped 12 pounds which makes a world of difference when suiting up.

I’ve been thinking about how to go about putting something like that together along with my experience during the training. Hoping to have it out soon. Thanks for watching.

Well……to be honest I don’t know. I would guess about the same or a little less if it was a SS backplate and a heavy HP100. Two LP50’s are heavier than one HP100 but I suspect not by much. I would essentially be able to drop the weight needed to counter weigh the ccr counter lung. I was diving HP100’s in sidemount using 14 lbs before the CCR. I hope that makes sense or answered your question.

@@familyscuba1292 yes all good. Just seemed alot of lead with your CCR. I'm finding that with a Trilaminate Drysuit and a Santi undersuit I'm needing alot if lead in cold water

@@JURASSICDIVERUK so many factors when it comes to weighting. I’m naturally very leg heavy so I carry all my weight up high to get my trim right. I also have a waterproof D1x that traps a ton of gas. I don’t even want to try using that in cold water with the CCR. I’d need like 40 lbs!

I have a Katana 2. I tried the H style configuration. I didn’t like it. I’ve since gotten better at putting the rig on. Though the current was my biggest obstacle that day so I don’t think I’d be any more graceful today under the same conditions.

Those are all good questions. Yes, the “over breathing” issues are covered in the training as well as how gas density can create work of breathing issues. In a nutshell, everything done in a rebreather should be as slow and easy as possible. Not always possible, especially when clawing your way past some rough flow in caves. Once you know your unit, your own physical limitations, and best way to approach flow, it all works out great.

I plan to. It’s just very dry and math intensive. Lots to cover.

We where using air. Not ideal and frowned upon for those depths. We have done multiple dives deeper on 21% without any WOB issues, however we were also very well aware of the limitations/problems with higher work loads. That’s part of the reason we ended that dive early, just to be safe. I will say, neither of us felt like we had any harder time breathing than any other high flow cave dive. To each there own I guess. We know what our limitations are and stay within our own boundaries. The cave is definitely backmount friendly. Many use back mounted CCR there.

Considering you’re using AL80’s, 24 lbs is pretty good. I knocked it down to 14 lbs with LP50’s by changing my heavy undergarment to one that is much more form fitting.

@@familyscuba1292 that’s will be my next move I am a big guy so finding that stuff takes longer for me

@@familyscuba1292 btw going to Gilboa Monday I am doing a check dive with my instructor for advanced nitrox afterwards I plan on doing deco next. Will keep you posted

@@ivoryjohnson4662 That’s awesome! Can’t wait to hear all about it. Also, I have the same problem. I’m 6’04” and 200 lbs. Finding things that fit is a pain. I ended up going with the Halo 3D because they have tall sizes. Made a huge difference.

Not radioactive I hope. Jk. Super cool place. I can’t wait to check out more in the area.

@@familyscuba1292 The US Army has become your primary civil authority. Because of Military/ Industrial Complex property loss due to organized crime. And foreign incursions from Asia and Eastern Europe. Trials occur at the Guam Federal Courthouse. The island has an infamous Federal Prison. Hot year around, it floods. and snake bite occurs frequently.

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We where using air. Not ideal and frowned upon for those depths (max depth of 145). The general rule of thumb is to keep gas density below a 6.2. But that figure can change depending on who you talk to. We were at a 6.4 for this dive. Also, we had done multiple dives deeper on 21% without any WOB issues. We were also very well aware of the limitations/problems with higher work loads. That's part of the reason I ended that dive early. I will say, neither of us felt like we had any harder time breathing than any other high flow cave dive. To each there own I guess. We know what our limitations are and stay within our own boundaries. Having said that, I’ll be bringing a bottle of trimix the next time I go. That flow was a beast.

@@familyscuba1292 okay 👍 I applaud you my friend and that flow must of been a rough one 😭. Especially the amount of times you bought how heavy the flow is in the video lol. Made me fell the flow through the phone. Lastly I was reading the drawings of the cave system and at one point it maxs out to about 200ft. Do you think you could go back and get to that part of the cave system?

@@YourMomPussStink Roubidoux goes a looooong way back. I don’t remember off the top of my head but I think 200 ft is way back there. To answer your question, yes someday when I have a DPV capable of those types of penetrations. A good DPV would also help with the flow.

You catch anything good. I didn’t see many fish there. Maybe when the flow is lower. I don’t know anything about fishing. lol

@@familyscuba1292 I got a huge rainbow trout there it was delicious

@@peytonwilk8419 lol. Nice!

🤣 I don’t know where I got an hour. 🤪