Hmmm. I might think about investing in one as I hate buying the cans all the time too. And sometimes I SWEAR I use it once then 6 months later when comp is ready for a new clean it's like the can is empty. grrr
@@KellicTiger just be careful with those air compressors as they can accumulate moisture. The electric blowers are designed to not accumulate moisture. So just make sure you have a way to drain liquid/ keep moisture out of the air outlet on the compressor. It most likely is fine, but thats the reason they aren’t used specifically for electronics. They aren’t ESD or moisture safe.
Never use a vacuum, you want a blower. Vacuums cause static electricity and can damage electronics. I got a datavac, ironically named given my warning but it's a blower. Actually I technically got two because someone told my in-laws and my parents to buy me one for Christmas one year so I got two. Worth it. They are amazing for cleaning electronics and they have tons of attachments for making it easy for different types of applications. Little straw thing with a brush on it for getting between fins on an air cooler is my favorite one.
Since you stated that the thermal paste may have affected cooling. Please let us know if you're reapplication this time had any effect on the cooling temperatures.
For me personally, on my Gigabyte 3080 Vision OC, thermal pad replacements made a much bigger difference, almost 10-15C reduction under max synthetic loads (105C down to 90C) on the VRAM. But there was also about 5C of reduction on the GPU die itself, when I swap the stock thermal paste for some Thermalgrizzly Kryonaut. I plan on replacing the thermal paste to some Kryonaut Extreme down the line, because I will have to do that, thanks to the pumpout effect. Very liquid pastes like the Kryonaut and the Noctua NT-H1 are prone to pumpout and should be replaced about once a year, whereas thick paste like the Arctic Silver, Thermalgrizzly Kryonaut Extreme, and Thermalright TFX will hold up much better over time. Overall I do highly recommend it for 30-series cards, particularly the models that have GDDR6X, due to higher thermal output. You'll need to be careful and have a steady hand, but some high performance pads (make sure the thickness is correct, even if you need to stack two layers of thinner ones) and high performance thick paste will make a difference in performance. This is especially true for the 3080, which has thermal pads only on one side of the PCB, and not the other side facing the metal backplate, for some inane reason.
@Matasa ...it almost seems like they didn't want to over do it on the thermal pads. But yeah, if you own a 3080 and above, you need to add thermal pads. I made a video of the 3080 ti running without thermal pads, same temps under 270w ish load. Obviously dont do this, but it just goes to show that i dont think the thermal pads were ever making proper contact with the cooler from stock. Im just like, why are they even there?
Little sidenote, and genuine question: isn't the consensus that you should hold the fan in place when blowing it just in case you end up spinning it faster than recommended, which could lead to premature failures?
@@comsubpac No, they can't. This is a common misconception. The motors used in PC fans do not generate a permanent magnetic field. Doesn't matter how fast you spin them, they can't generate an electric current without induction. So as long as they're powered off, this is a non-issue. The issue is overspinning the bearing and killing it prematurely.
Personally, I would hold the fan lightly while you blow air through the blades and use a brush to get rid of the "caked" on dust. I have had some experiences that I held the hub too tightly and caused premature failure. The same thing with holding the fan blades, you may induce a warp and unbalance them; hence premature failures as well. And the others that replied about overspin are correct as well.
You should hold down your fan with your finger when blowing it with compressed air, the sudden RPM may kill the fans 😉 Keep up the videos, they're amazing 😀
The un-even air pressure can also cause cheaper or aging fans to break some and/or go out of balance. At least, I've seen that a few times... Though the voltage the fan generates might also be a danger in some cases. It is mostly an issue with the cheaper fans but, yeah gpu fans are spendy usually to replace. Specially on a $1000+ gpu, dont want to be screwing around.
i did that once, but eventually you will have to replace the thermal pads and paste, sucks when you have a card and there's very little info on the type of thermal pad sizes ur card uses...
Jay, what electric screwdrivers do you use? Like the one in this video and also the skinnier silver one you have? They look great and I would love to know what they are, especially the silver one. Thanks
@@user-op8fg3ny3j The only thing I worry about is the cooling fins... and I keep a watch on thermals. To my mind - this is like thermal paste. Everyone thinks you either have too much or too little or put it on wrong... when evidence proves it usually makes no difference at all. I've had PCs that I never opened the box for years... and when I finally did, I had a sneezing fit for hours. Never noticed it in performance.
@@KenOtwell I'm the same. No open-air rig but it's a pretty big tower (Enthoo Pro) so lots of places for dust to hide. I focus mainly on the fan blades & fins and don't sweat if there's a tiny bit sticking to the interior of the case. Never had a problem. Honestly more important for reducing the sheer quantity of dust that accumulates in your PC is just getting it high up off the floor - preferably on a desk. I know some people love to have them hidden away from sight but even being near the floor especially carpet w/ pets will drastically increase the dust intake.
@@TheNightKing22 why pain ? i changed pads from 6 rtx 30XX cards , and didnt break some... the only one to take care of , is not to over screw the screws which are under the magnets
Ya same, I can't even be fucked to try and do the thermal pad mod on mine. I've swapped GPU coolers before, I put a evga hybrid cooler on my old 1070 but that new FE design looks like a massive pain to do anything with.
Thanks for showing the teardown of a 3090 FE cooler. It's a good reminder why I'm leaving mine on a water block and have turned the cooler into wall art.
Please hold the fan when you blow it! That air moves it too fast and can wear out the sleeve or bearings. I always put a finger on a fan when I'm blowing it, as much fun as hearing them go zoom can be it ain't good for them. Meant constructively, thanks for all the knowledge over the years in your videos!
@@Mr1Tanker There weren't all the comments when I made mine, and yeah I figure he shares knowledge with me so I should probably mention some things he doesn't seem to know about.
You left out the most important parts, application of What brand of thermal paste and pads, and the effects it improved on cooling. You did get the parts we could damage though, so good on that.
NEVER spin up your fans like that with a blower. The fan will turn into a generator and send voltage back into the PCB, by overspinning the fan you can go way higher than the board can handle and kill the GPU.
@@vincentviguier3223 Facts! I was just SMH. What a screw up. Thats also bad for your fan and can break fan blades. Ive done it way in the past.. Like way in the past and never will i blow on the fan again
@ 1:53…Isn’t is a bad idea to have the fans free-spin like that while air dusting them? I thought holding them down so the fans don’t spin, is suggested to avoid any static build up or other damage to the fans/part?
I think it might be if the fan is actually on, but with brushless fans I don’t really see how this is possible other than over-spinning the hell out of the bearings. Tbh I really have no idea if it’s even possible to damage a fan with air like that
As he said, the rpm reporting may become inaccurate. As for the bearings themselves, it depends on the bearing type; the higher rpm from blowing will create different amounts of friction for each style of bearing. Mag lev fans are less prone to having the actual bearings damaged from higher than designed rpm speeds since the bearings are essentially floating.
There is nothing wrong with that. The vast majority of the heat is expelled from the rear of the GPU, Even under heavy load the fan pointing towards the motherboard doesn't dump too much heat into the system and as long as you have good flow through from front to back its fine. Which Jay does with the front mounted rad and fans.
If you have a 3090 FE you know you can't put this card vertically, when you do it, the fan taking the heat out of the card is pointing to the back of the card and directly to the motherboard, the air is NOT circulating. If you are going to put it vertically, do it with the card backward (GEFORCE RTX sign pointing down). So, the fan that takes the air out is pointing OUT of the computer. Another thing, if you get a fan mount to add 2 90mm fans to the back of the 3090 FE, you can lower the memory temp by almost 10d. Mine is almost all the time 78d, mining at 114MH and using the computer.
Watching you spin up the fan with the duster was painful. You can cause damage to the fan or board fan header by doing that, best practice is to hold the fan down
I’ll be honest I don’t know jack about PCs. I’m about to buy a pre built but man this stuff looks so cool. Reminds me of breaking down and fixing up shitbox cars to see if we can get it to turn over. Just way way way more expensive haha y’all stay safe man!
No no hold Ur fans and u can use air compressor but yeah don't let's 10000 rpm to turn Ur graphics fan Same for case fan and tower cooler fan Inc water coolers fans Just one or two of u hold all fans and PSU just have some tight plastic in there to hold it and blow air as much as u can ...I do this 25 years now and never single issue ....some cable get out but who care after maintenance u have to secure and Chech all Pc cables
I would say the power supply is the dirtiest because people are afraid of opening them to clean. This is from my experience of cleaning retro pc's, thanks for showing the teardown of the gpu
In all honesty the general public has no business digging around in a PSU even just to clean it. For the most part blowing it out should be good enough for most if they do it on a regular basis. Then again most people don’t dust their PC on a regular basis.
LOL. I was wondering what was going to happen when Jay got to fan 2 as getting that out is a massive pain in the ass vs the first fan. :D Guess they decided to skip that as the teardown would have been a pain in the butt. (Which is fine.) Nvidia did such a good job on the design of on getting that first fan out then dropped the ball on fan 2. The ribbon cable is actually taped down requiring the entire shroud to be removed.
Never spin a fan with air silly. That degrades the life of a gpu fan from coil feedback to the winding. You can use qd cleaner. Im fact you can clean everything with qd cleaner including getting all thermal paste off with no wiping and even extracting the oil spots that seep thru the circuit board. Ive used it on over 50 cards and repasted with thermal grizzly. On pads i never replaced them just pasted again on the open side and stick it all back together with 0 issues and great results thermally It even fixed artifacts due.to.bleed thru. May be stopping cross voltage between two circuits. I would use qd on a brand new board as prep for serious over clocking. You may find yourself on the list
Would love to see a report on your GPU temps with the re applied kingpin goo. I know you’ve done that other times but since this is your personal streaming rig I think it’d be fun.
Absolutely zero. The motors in PC fans do not generate a permanent magnetic field. They require induction to generate a magnetic field. So, as long as they're not power on, they can't produce voltage. The bigger dnager is over spinning the bearing and wearing it out prematurly.
I like maintenance videos, they show a lot of tips, how-to's and general knowledge to keep the pc in good condition, and they are actually fun to watch. Keep up the good content.
Only thing that I would clean are the fans with a moist cloth towel ( have no idea what they are called , like baby wipes :D ) I can open up every part in my PC and clean it , but I don’t ever want to mess with the GPU :D
2:14 Don't do what this insane dummy does, fans can work as a dynamo and create power. This can damage your fans PCB components, Jay is such a bad example... smh.
I'm sure a smoker might be even worse, but.. for the first couple of years.. my dumb ass thought it was fun to blow vape into the intake fans.. lmao, super nasty cleaning that shit up.
I am fairly confident in my skills to take apart, clean, and put my GPU back together, but given the cost of a new one (plus warranty concerns) I don't think I'll risk it. Not like I have a million GPUs just lying around lol.
It's par for the course if you want to do any water cooling and don't buy an AIB card that has a block already attached. I had to tear apart an FE 3080 Ti to put a block on it, and honestly... it wasn't that bad at all. I will say that the silly little screw covers are probably the worst part of all. I did manage to get 3 out of 4 out without any signs of physical marring, but one of them has a little jab mark or two. Once I got those off, it was pretty simple to get the rest off, and when you've got it off, just do your best to put things back where they belong and put it back in the box. I just used some basic tape to hold those screw covers in place, but not tight enough that I can't remove them again. Now, the worst part of that experience? Sizing, cutting, and peeling the billions of thermal pads. I've always found it frustrating how thermal pads are so easy to peel on one side, but the other side is just awful to try and peel. It might be a slight exaggeration, but it seemed like I probably spent at least an hour of my time peeling all of the thermal pads for the front and back. It probably would've been even worse if I had a 3090 with the additional VRAM modules! (I kind of wish I did choose one in line at Best Buy given the 3080 Ti did not work with my 10% off birthday coupon but the 3090 would have; it would've dropped the difference to $150!)
This reminds me. I need to clean up my rig as well. It's been a while since i did it. I don't feel comfortable opening my RX 6700XT up but surely will blow the dust out that comes out
I done the same thing, but didn't blow directly into the fans. I just aimed the air across the heatsink and card, so that I wasn't just blowing the dust deeper into the PCB.
Jay, that thermal paste spread is exactly why I keep a pile of those thermal paste spreaders in my thermal paste bin inside my water cooling parts sorter. I literally had a card start to fail in folding@home constantly because of a small corner of the die which didn't have paste on it, after i picked it up off an online store that had repasted the card (no doubt after it spent a chunk of it's life mining back when you could on a 3gb 1060). Glad to see you used one this time, it'd make me sad if you killed your 3090 for real due to something like that xD
...about overspinning the fans... anyway, its your money :P But I am wondering how you just act like this just is not an issue. Overspinng a fan? Nah, just clean it i a windtunnel next time. Funny sounds too. 😮💨 Trust me, I learned it the hard way, that this can be a big issue. I knew about it from the start, but I missed to stop one small fan in a dataprojector when cleaning it with air. Stopped instantly when I hear that 01:53 whiny sound, but it was too late. Few bearings gone, cooling gone, fan not sold as a spare part, no aftermarket, projector gone, 800 bucks gone.
I'm happy for you that you got these companies sending you their cards to test them, review them, deep clean them etc. But damn, I'd kill for a 2070 (super) or whatever man. I've been noticing my 1070 can't keep up anymore with editing and rendering stuff. Then again, I've never tried a custom bios, overclocking or anything because if it breaks, I have no backup X). Always glad to see your content!
Hi Jay. I changed all my thermal pads out for CS Labs K5 PRO viscous thermal paste in my RTX 3090 Aorus Master. The Thermals i get now are amazing. It is well worth it. By the way dont worry if you use a lot for the different thicknesses. For £23 it was a great deal GPU-Z results GPU Temp 47.9 Hot spot 63.8 Memory Temp 74 and pushing 358 watt. Running Heaven Bench. Great Video
6:02 And that is why i tell people to use the spread method, especially on bare dies because it works the first time every time. No need to hope you get good spread.
You never need to hope you get good spread. You just need to use the proper amount of thermal paste (don't listen to nonsense about "a single grain of rice"). If you don't get "good spread" then that means you had bad mounting pressure and would have had garbage cooling performance even if you had spread it yourself first.
LOL dust...sir you don't know dust unless you live in a farming community. Planting season and harvest are the dustiest. I can throw a stone and hit a corn/bean field in any direction from my house.
Maybe someone can give me a little insight. I have a lga1700 socket 12700k with a deepcool castle 120mm AIO (I know that isn’t great but it came with it) I recently bought the Corsair h100i elite capellix. It doesn’t say if it has the lga1700 standoffs. Will the standoffs from the deepcool work or do I need to order the retrofit kit?
couldn't come at a better time! question on this card did you do the thermal pad mod when you first bought it? or has it been run as is out of the box? any viewers who know feel free to chime.
Giving me PTSD to when I water cooled my 3090 and it wouldn't post, and I freaked out thinking I broke it. Turns out the output morning bracket for the back of this waterblock was too big for my crap pc case and not letting the card insert all the way. Removed that and everything was fine. I Almost cried lol
I have a ITX Gigabyte GTX 970 and its a hot runing card. I have to manually set the power limit to 75% or bellow because the card runs at 86+c when playing games like the hunter or warzone. And i dont want that thing to melt. So pls suggest
I need to get my 3080ti heatsink out as i'm going back to all air cooling instead of having the custom loop wich means i need to do better thermal pads (: should be fun listening to those 3000rpm fans again.
kills a 3000$ GPU by 12500rpm'ing it by a leaf blower 1 inch apart from it and using the motor as a generator to kill the electronics that power it. yeah, ... good advise.
