Another Graphics card not working after cleaning with an air duster 

Fuses seldom blow for no reason and just because you replace the fuse and it doesn't instantly blow doesn't mean everything is working properly.

More like, a *poor* technician would have stopped at the first fix. As longjohn526 already pointed out, a fuse doesn't blow for no reason.

@@longjohn526 Yep, always look for the cause of the blown fuse, the fuse is the symptom not the problem.

Cause was the blowing fan created reverse voltage, isn't it?

He literally needs to make content. It's bad business to just stop. Content is finite

Best Buy would try to sell you a new GPU after telling you yours was too trashed to fix.

99%

Yeah, he did a great job and explained very well what was going on in an entertaining way. I share your opinion (the last sentence). But why is your praise preceded by a wild claim for which you have no data (that absurd 90% random number)? Is that supposed to be some weird kind of reinforcing adjective? So I mean these unknown and probably fictitious other technicians and that you just generally prejudge these (unknown) people. Do you need such weird and disingenuous tricks to make an argument? Sorry, but that is weird behavior. Repair-Technician-Trauma or something? Also, reality doesn't work that way. How do you think northwestrepair improved his skills? Through training, feedback, practice and learning from mistakes. Your announcement just doesn't make any sense, because if a technician only delivers rubbish, then (to say it nice **g** ) he will eventually be able to look for a new job, or the company will be sued.

those 90% is not named techs

@@dieSpinnt bro this is a RU-vid comment section not a formal report for a repair technician association or something. Some hyperbole is to be expected. I’ve never had a technician do that much on a GPU before. So if you want an anecdotal number, he’s better than 100% of those I’ve experienced.

How does repairing a graphics card help society function. It's the trades that make society function. Do you know what separates 3rd world countries from first world countries... running water, sewage and electricity

It was super cool. Impressive skills too

@@jeremywilliamson1194 I think he means electronics repair in general. I'm thinking about how the entire world is run on circuit boards, not all of which can be so easily replaced.

@@jeremywilliamson1194, when it comes to electronic engineering, how do you think modern water, sewage, and electricity runs efficiently?

You doing tricks on it

Yes, thank you

​@@northwestrepairhow much to mess with a xts1500 Motorola radio? Believe it's a board issue but not knowledgeable enough to resolve. More and for giggles project of mine.

I can edit and record videos it seems pretty easy to do but can be a lot harder depending on the level of editing required. Meanwhile, fixing these graphics look 100 times harder. Like high school kids edit and record videos all the time, I don't know any who could fix a graphics card like this.

And i also believe he has another day job! My question is... coffee drinker? 🤭

Lol yup that’s how informative videos work

I agree! But on the flip side, the problem is that it likely increases the price of the service & also takes time for the tech to stop & make a phone call to the customer to inform them of what was found. If someone had a limited amount of money & was hoping for an easy quick fix, what are they supposed to do when to get their part back costs more than they have?

​@@Akeldama9Or when the service costs more than the item is worth

are we going to mention that he replaced the IC with one from an old ass 1070 unnecessarily and then when he found it wasn't the issue he kept it? no just me?

I thought he replaced it a second time with something else, when the first change didn't help.

@@Akeldama9I guess they have to face they cant afford fixing it then and have to wait🤷‍♂️

I work in the industry, servicing quarter million dollar machines, and I also tell my clients to be extremely careful using air cans, we have seen them fry powersupplies. Plus they dont clean, they just move dust, you need to make sure you move the dust out of the machine, not just deeper into it.

Yeah i always make sure to put a finger on fans so the don't spin too much when cleaning.

@@clownavenger0 That's probably a good idea I never heard of this potentially causing problems but I can say I've cleaned my PCs since the 80's with canned air and never had a single issue.

@@ackillesbac yeah, I think people buys these cleaners because they dont want to open the GPU and blow the air with dust into the graphic card lol

I must have been lucky in the past when I used an air compressor to blow out my PCs.

oh god. that's what I always do. I have an 8psi dry compressor and I just blast it into my case spinning every fan. maybe I shouldn't do that anymore, lol

This is ancient knowledge that’s somehow been forgotten. Can’t believe folks don’t hold the fan while blowing air through.

perhaps im wrong here, but these are brushless fans, they wont generate squat if you spin them up...

So i can let them spin if I disconnect them?

@@StanleyKubick1 yea it basically acts as a generator when you do that

needs seriously dedicated people because it's so complicated, and newer tech changes so much in the course of only a few years. I wanted to do IT very badly but I am in a different profession now. Not because I gave up. Because it pays better.

@@HoodrichShinobi Yeah.. that's the thing.. the amount of labor and expertise required to do these repairs is insane! And therefore very expensive. Likely it costs more to do these repairs than it does to just buy a new graphics card. It's a catch-22.

​@@crp5591Absolutely true. In North America, anyways. In the Middle East, it's cheaper for labor than new parts.

​@@crp5591It's sad that it's so backwards

There would be if people were willing to pay.

I've always just jammed my fingers in the fan to stop it spinning lol. Taping it might be better

@@dreadfulbadger Whatever works in my book

Compressed air can also have condensation and in some cases it might shoot some of the water out, so be careful with that too.

@@hellhound320 The trick is to remove products from power before cleaning them - don't hold a can upside down, don't shake it, don't leave it going for too long at one time.

I'm new to all this and need to clean my pc as it has about 6yrs of dust caked in it. I was just gonna buy a can of dustet and go to town . What should I do?

Thanks.

@@northwestrepair the thermal paste on gpu chip. Fuck men learn how properly put this on. Only idiot put X on processor.

I don't think what he does here will ever be common. It just is'int very practical and i get the feeling if it was common they would charge a lot for it. Like for a card like this you would probably be paying half the price of the card just to fix it.

​​@@billfred9411That doesn't make sense, if such repairs were common, they would be cheap, not the other way around.

@@zetsubou3704 It was a hypothetical my dude. I already stated its impractical so by nature it means you won't find many people willing to do it which would make it more expensive. I just meant if it was a thing it would not be cheap because all the work it requires. Also there are many things that are common and not cheap as an example a shipping freighter or airplanes.

​@zetsubou3704 you have to pay the man for all the hours of work, it would be cheaper, but probably the price drop would stop at a expensive number and then if you want it cheaper you would have to aquire the services of illegitimate people. Compare it to getting veneers for example.

That's why all tv repair shops are gone. I remember my friends relative growing up had a tv repair shop and it was busy. I even have fuzzy memories of the tv repair guy coming to my place to fix the family tv, pulling out modular boards, etc. These days, your tv is worth 1/3 the price you paid after 2 years, the new models are probably better, and everything is built into 1 or 2 pieces. they're not serviceable without complete diagnostics of individual components. meanwhile, a new 50" tv is $300.

why would someone get it repaired with you can buy new for the same price?

​@@BobRooney290whoever can afford to care about sustainability

@@BobRooney290 How much does he charge for a fix like this?

@@BobRooney290 Doubt he charges 1000€ for a fix like this, but ok.

⁠@@JaySilva88a 2080 in 2023 will not cost a thousand euros though.

you can still start doing it

It is never too late brother, if you have a passion you can do anything. Just remember to be patient with yourself as nothing worth doing is ever easy or instantly attainable.

its never to late friend. I always wanted to fly small planes. Im 49 and just got my private pilots license. If you have the means - go for it!

I just let them think that way 😂

"putting together (parts)" is a more accurate term😊

I thought you throw rocks at each other till a computer forms.

@@makuru_dd3662 thats how i have always done it too

@@makuru_dd3662they had to do that to make software before the first compiler was written, nowadays we just get our computers to smash rocks for us programmatically

The hard part is the diagnosis. The soldering in this case is something anyone with a bit of experience handling SMD parts, a hot air station and a soldering iron can do. The diagnosis is almost black magic compared to that, especially if you don't have actual schematics or repair manuals from the manufacturer, that requires a lot of experience and a good electronics knowledge base.

@@ska042True, as a apprentice I couldn’t imagine doing anything on a board I don’t know the schematics off.

The PCB is made to repel solder. Just put on the right amount, have enough solder flux heat it up and everything flows into place. The diagnosis though... oh lord please save us 😂

I worked in electronics design for four decades and was a fair hand at soldering. What really impresses me is that he can salvage a chip from another card to replace one on the repair unit, and it worked.

@@daveh7720 is it salvaged from another card?

@@edwinbongasyeah he took it from a 1070 parts board

Not to say it's nothing, but it's easier than you would expect. Most of the time you just place the component so it sits about right on the pads, apply hot air, and it'll seat itself into the proper position on its own. I don't consider myself a soldering wizard by any means, but the soldering work required to do this wouldn't be the tough part to me. The really hard part that I have a lot of respect for is diagnosing the issues properly without a schematic or repair manual. That requires a lot of experience. I'd be able to solder the components, and get replacements from a donor board, but I wouldn't know what to do, or what's worth trying!

I was about to say the same. When I’ve tried soldering on a breadboard before, the heat would start to remove adjacent components or burn the pads out. How does he not disturb the other components that are next to what he’s replacing?

How much does a repair like this usually cost? I'm only asking because if its so expensive, I think it would make more sense just to spend an extra $100-200 (depending on how much the repair would cost) and just get a new card.

The truth is, even to fix a GPU made in the 90s, you'd still need a multimeter, oscilloscope, and dexterous fingers. That part hasn't really changed, much. The part that has changed is the sheer number of teeny tiny booger-sized SMDs on these newer, gigantic cards.

@Yukeena I dont repair GPUs but been doing electronics repair as a side hobby for a couple years. I'd wager that unless the GPU is worth more than $700 US dollars or finding a suitable replacement is not feasible Repairs like this don't make sense. For a sub $500 Card you easily exceed 50% of the value of the GPU brand new. (my personal threshold for recommending just buying a new one.) My reasoning is that even with a great quality repair like this one, there is no telling how the other components service life got affected by the faulty component before the fix so you end up with a card that can last you from years to a couple months at worst and these repairs are done after warranty is gone so the value proposition is not good for cheaper cards. Sadly this is part of the planned obsolescence baked into moder products and why the expertise keeps becoming more rare as time goes on.

yeah im an EE by education and a programer by trade. The vast majority of things it just doesnt make sense to pay someone to fix. Even an easy fix may take 2 hours to diagnose and affect. Thats gonna need to be at least 50 bucks for the time adn that is for a relatively simple issue. Like I have these wiz light bulbs I got on clearance for 9 dollars for 3. 2 are dead after 30 days. I suspect an electrolytic cap in the PSU went bad. Getting the boards out without destroying them would be a job. All to fix a 3 dollar light builb. Or I could just go buy another box in ten minutes. I do want to rip the ESP32s out of them if possible, but havent found a nondestructive way to get the board out.

@@alexisrivera200xable this has zero to do with planned obsolescence

Anime

This is the way! Seriously. Wonderful job!

@@solomoncumquats776This can have so many meanings and I love every single one of them

Same. Makes you think - how many electronics are needlessly thrown away when a little bit of TLC like on this vid would get them running again!

How about guys that design them?

​@@kingofdice66A doctor can perform many miracles that god cannot..

​@vidurachamathka2317 you mixed God and doctor up pretty sad

@@HeroicDose I'm yet to see god's so called miracles, but I've seen plenty of normal humans preform them right in front of my own eyes. Doctors, Engineers, scientists and many more if you're struggling to think of examples..

@@vidurachamathka2317 colorblind people can't see red, I guess I should believe them that it doesn't exist lol

yeah, this was an interesting watch...i have an EVGA 1080Ti with one fan running slow...so i'm gonna investigate the "tuning" settings now.

Why? You could noctua fan mod it easily that way.

@@BlackJobZ Are You asking "rjs1138" why he would investigate if his problem is due to an erroneous SOFTWARE-Setting, and instead suggesting a "hardware-mod" ?? If so, why, if not what are You replying to? Best regards.

@@onlyeyeno sorry am replying to the original comment.

​@onlyeyeno he never tagged the dude you're talking about. If you have to assume who somebody is talking about don't bud in... trust me I've learned that way too. Lol

Cool, thanks!

@@northwestrepair Ditto! Do builds myself; but being able to dig deeper would be nice to add to my sodering skill. but that heat camera seemed like a eipc help, may I ask what that is? & hopefully things continue :)

Its just a thermal camera addon for your phone. The camera is cool and helps to isolate potential issues but I suspect it will take time and experience for you to actually tell the difference between something that is supposed to warm up vs something that is abnormally warming up too quickly. I suspect if you want to do this yourself, you would need to measure the normal operating temperature of all your components (perhaps using the app or an infra thermometer) as your rig is powering up, left running for a few minutes or longer so you have a set of baselines to compare against.

This is the most educational computer video I have ever seen. I thought I was pretty well-versed in PC building but I never knew most of these stuff.

I've read that gpus shouldn't get over 80 degrees Celsius.

I've been an electronics tech like you since the late 70s and even today I hate doing SMD. I can understand why manufacturers use them - because machines can place them on circuit boards - but they're not made for human hands to deal with!

@@sw6188 that's probably another reason why they like them, don't want people repairing their own stuff now! Companies crow about the environment publicly, but it's all for show, they don't mind filling the planet with e-waste one tiny little bit.

@@eye776 Yes I understand all of that, like I say I have been in electronics since the 70s so I have seen the transition from big bulky power-hungry units to things that will fit in your pocket and run for days on one charge. The point I was making above is that SMD technology was really not made with human hands in mind.

@@sw6188 That's the point. They don't want human hands to repair their tech so they place THESE little shits all over the electronics that require microscopic precision of a robot and the same amount of microscopic fine aimed soldering heat.

@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Did you even bother to read eye776's comment? A 3-foot long graphics card would not fit inside any case...

Well, to be honest, he isn't going to do a rush job and cut corners on a card he's using in a video that showcases his dedication right?

Hahaha so dumb

​@@TemulonTrue but the point is that he didn't, and he should be commended for doing an amazing job that Ik a lot of people wouldn't have a clue how to do and at the end of the day, that means the gpu won't end up as waste for now but let's hope it stays that way for as long as it can

​@@Temulonyep, if this were an actual card repair business it wouldn't really work. The charge out would have to be high enough to cover all the time & most people are just going to put that money towards a new card, just the reality of the world

Showed up on my home page. Good video.

Showed up on my suggestions after an LTT video. But I'm sub'ed... 😁 Great videos!

This showed up on my recommended videos after watching a JayzTwoCents video. Looks like you won todays RU-vid algorithm!

This was really interesting, you must have been blessed from the algorithm

Just randomly showed up on my youtube front page

Working on it!

Yeah I've just recently subbed after getting a RU-vid recommendation to this channel from a Northridgefix video I was watching. It wouldn't surprise me if this channel blows up once the RU-vid algorithm fully kicks into gear. Another RepairTuber I followed called AdamantIT blew up after years of slow growth to 16K then doubled to 33K in a couple of months then clicked past 100K in less than 6mths after that. So it can happen pretty quickly especially when you are producing high quality content like northwestrepair is.

I don't know about on a graphics card but on case fans you can blow them out with a leaf blower and nothing bad happens.

lmao wow, whenever i clean stuff with fans i try to spin them up as high as possible.... oops 🥲🥲

Dont listen to that guy. He thinks the fans on a GPU have the same function as a alternator.

Myth

​@@riddell26no it's true, but most good designs have flyback diodes

Yes these older cards are still great for gaming considering price to performance has not gone up enough on the new ones.

Amen! I repair drones that the two major manufacturers (Autel and DJI) desire to be disposable or a new one purchased every two to three years. It is good to see electronics brought back to life and enjoyed, all while keeping them out of the landfill.

@@maxfmfdm My 2080ti ftw3 ultra something or another from Micro Center in August of 2018 was $1800 or so plus tax and the new 4080 is more than twice as fast and is quieter, and cost $550 less plus the inflation since 2018.

@@hithere7382 you gotta be trolling bro there is so much wrong with what you just said

@@maxfmfdm no there isn't, for what I use it for it costs less and is twice as fast in the old games I play. Why' can't you grok $1800 in 2018 money is worth more than the numerical difference between that and $1278 in 2023 dollars? It runs my favorite game at the maximum 200 fps it can run at without mods and the fans don't even spin where the 2080ti floated between 90 and 125 fps.

“I’ll be switching out this man’s defective valve with a one that I dissected from a donor pig. I don’t know if it will work, but there’s only one way find out!”

Welcome aboard!

Agreed! And then you may get impressed really differently like watching one whole clip of Williams mobile clutch replacement!

You dont watch enough youtube then.

He cracked your ass, now you're impressed

We can thank the lacking of additional education of technicians who get taught how to replace parts but nothing about fixing the parts itselves for that

Lol, I can tell you that at my previous job when I killed a computer with compressed air, I put than one in the closet and dragged out a new one for the employee.

@@nikso1496 repairing the parts are impossible and useless.

​@@yeahnvmnvm1331Like this one?

Wasn't this myth busted by Linus and the power dude

@@kimberly4275 Uhm What, That is not a myth, Lol. its a fact go spin an LED fan..........

@@nocturnal101ravenous6 The myth is that it generates enough current to damage your pc. Not that it can generate any

@@kimberly4275 3 fans spinning faster than originally intended......If its fast enough to light LEDs in larger case fans WTF do you think, Also I accidentally killed a Dust Buster style EVGA 285 Classified card cleaning it in this way, and I have seen dead fan ports on Motherboards over the years it always is an issue of I cleaned my computer now my fan doesn't work. It depends on overcurrent protection of the circuit. It is not a Myth, either link the video or stop spreading bad information. Also I am 99% sure Gamers Nexus, Jay2Cents and Linus say don't blow and freely spin fans as they have killed ports. Also here is a dead card with a blown fuse after the person states I cleaned it with Compressed air. So what more do you honestly need? there is no myth to it. Also you can reverse the current.

@@nocturnal101ravenous6 Idk what to tell you. Look at their testing with electroboom.

Likely scenario: User noticed card overheat, addressed the symptom with dusting, but fuse finally died at the next power-up because of the other issues draining too much power.

I doubt that the cause was that. Air duster blower is different to compressed air the video needs to clarify that!

Compressed air actually generates a lot of ESD. It probably caused that IC to go bad and short out the 12V rail.

I've used an air compressor over 20 years without issues, I just tape the fans if I'm blowing several GPUs. If I'm just doing one I simply hold one fan at a time.

@@bensonak47 For me compressed air is the bottle not the machine with motor

Nice..thanks.

False. They contain neither air nor water. It’s just compressed refrigerant, if you tilt them to far (on most models) you release liquid refrigerant. The liquid refrigerant will quickly flash off components without any residue. Some brands like to put nasty bitter powder in their duster cans, avoid those.

I was wondering why the card would stop working after being air dusted.

@@kilroy987 two options: the air press was to high and damaged the components, or gpu was already damaged before the cleaning proccess

@@kilroy987 I think the video is pointing out that the air duster on the fans causes them to rotate and hence feed power back into the circuit which could damage the electronics of the fan and that could in turn damage the video card, but I was just pointing out another possible cause for video card failure after using an air duster could be water on the circuitry.

@@Dirty_Bear22 I think you're getting confused with freeze spray, the can I have says compressed gas it doesn't say what gas but it's most likely some inert gas and pressurised, but whatever it is it cause freezing on the surface it's sprayed on so you could say it is a refrigerant, again either way freezing produces water from the air, how much and how quickly it dries depends on how much you spray and where it goes, if it gets inside or under components and it's not dry it could be a risk.

We all need to pitch in and help him get a Fluke, he would get so much more joy from the solid and instant readings they give. I'm not shilling for them, I've just used a dozen or more multimeters in the last 15 years and the truth is a Fluke really helps you not second guess yourself because of wavering readings. "The right tool for the job" as it were, helps keep the passion of your work alive.

If the guy wants a fluke multimeter he can buy one himself. They aren't that expensive, and he doesn't seem to be impaired by using whatever he's got. If you're so desperate to give your money away I'm sure there are plenty of local charities you can donate to.

Lol.

I agree 100%! This guy is like a PCB repair god. I didn't even think it was possible to make such detailed repairs. I figured if it doesn't work, throw it out and buy another one...like a TV.

Repetition. How well can you perform another hobby that you're interested in without instructions?

Don't try dude You will end up buying lot of electronic measurement devices, electronic repair tools, is chesper buying a new one and be more carrfuly

Air dusters cause the fans to spin - which can generate voltage in the opposite polarity to that which would flow when the fan is spinning normally… this can destroy the tiny components on the board

Aw dang i just saw this video pop up litterly 2 mins after i just did this and now no signal :/