DEEP DISCOG DIVE: Maroon 5 

Tbh jagger has always been so influential

Nowadays the kids just make words up smh *《shakes cane in a mildly menacing manner》*

Dagger

But like what the hell else rhymes with swagger? Bag her, snag her, nagger, bragger... Ok it's not nothing but still

WRONG. You’re WRONG. That was in the early 2010s. NOT the mid 2010s.

Must have been some really amazing flowers then

Actually, an entire band.

I got it, cause your name is Kara

Damn you got five of those bad boys?

Damn

I heard that and couldn’t believe it lmao

We all collectively gasped

Right?!! I was like "Oh Shittt 😂" when he told that

Holy shit lmfao

the meanest thing mic has ever said lmao holy shit that's not a high bar to clear but still

The other Maroon 4 must have a nice life just collecting royalties

And then you get the best of both worlds with Brandon Flowers

this comment gets better after p!atd "breaking up"

Bruh yeah, I thought Panic! At the Disco from when i first heard of em untill like a year ago

​@@davidbanan.Homeboy forgot to finish his sentence lmao

I promise I will become rich, come find you, and finance this show

I’m imagining veep and parks and rec combined…I’m stealing this

😂😂

Like the Muse guys who aren’t Matt Bellamy

Have you ever seen the music video for My Band by D12? Cause this is basically that.

Constant L’s

fucking true. off a cliff into the earth's core

Yeah, at least Maroon 5 always has the same levels of succes, patd looked like they would make it and then they fell hard (and by they I mean what's left of it)

There's a joke in there somewhere about writing tragedies...

honestly now we need a PATD DDD

they are truly inescapable

I hope somebody will GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO BELIEVE, CUZ YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM ANYMORE, ANYMOOOORE

You don't wanna know, know, know, know how you know so many Maroon 5 songs, songs, songs, songs

😂😂😂

nah they didn’t even fall down the stairs, they fell off fucking mount thor

mick jaggers british tho

@@uyes-cy8yk came here to say this

I'm from the US and had no clue who Mick Jagger was. Still don't

I mean, they got their start all the way back in 2002. Who tf from 2002 is still successful and selling out concerts and on the radio? Especially other bands that were big at the time, rock or not. Say what you will about Maroon 5, but if they never have another hit again, 20 years of nonstop success is something that only an extremely select few in the history of the music business have ever been able to achieve, and they should be proud

Coldplay is an another band that outlive the 20 year rule.

@@cityboy2092 Beyonce is the only one I can think of

​@@cityboy2092 honestly in terms of rock/rock-adjacent music it's more common than you'd think because the radio friendly chunk of the genre stagnated so hard, it's not like the transition from the 70s to 80s or 80s to 90s where every prog band went in a poppier direction or every hair metal band tanked completely because of the new subgenres (grunge of course being the main one) replacing it. Coldplay and fucking Nickelback are still around because hip hop overtook it as the thing that has a popular innovative new subgenre every few years.

@@gx1tar1er Coldplay is a sad shell of its former self and you know it

Woah this comment

That's so mean. And accurate. He looks like he's hiding being confused all the time. I needed that laugh, thank you.

Does Adam Levine know what the fox says?

@@ThisDude234 Exactly! I suspect not.

@@carly7522 That's so funny, Mean and Accurate was my nickname at school.

She needed to pay the rent

If he doesn't give the same treatment to Good Vibrations when he eventually covers The Beach Boys, I'm gonna be super pissed.

Yeah it’s nuts. The 3 albums preceding it were one thing, then moves like Jagger independently comes out, then the following albums were almost an entirely different project.

The popularity of this song definitely depressed me

It's not a bad song at all and I'm not sure why people pretend it is. It's just incredibly basic. Every artist at some point does something more mainstream to bring in new people. Moves Like Jagger is not the issue at all, it's that they stuck to only making that kind of song forever after that. Occasional singles like that would have been perfectly fine. But nearly the full discography? Not the same Maroon 5.

Moves Like Jagger really overstayed its welcome in popular culture by at least five years

Have you ever seen a Shyamalan movie? Terrible comparison.

Except Shyamalan managed to bounce back in recent years.

@@TheKevlar4 yes, the comparison is spot on

M night has actually made good movies tho

​@@BrendanJSmith until he didn't after Glass

Fucking true

you know it's true when jeremy "goat" reev says it

The legend is here

Youre famous apparently lol The goat fr

Common Jeremy W

Maroon 5 is the Simpsons of music

This is one of the greatest comments I’ve read on this goddamned site

A literal NPC He most be researched and examined at all costs!

Literally my 11th grade math teacher.

Also this video is abolutely stellar! sorry I just had to express my Aongs About Jane nostalg… i mean objective appreciation first. You’re killing it dude

Hey Roomie

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Songs About Jane isn’t even the best Maroon 5 album

plus, and let's be real here, the reason they sold out in the first place is due to the fact that the first time they were a band they flopped horribly. my guess is that they're doing all this because they're vehemently scared of another Fourth World scenario

I'd love to know how that ended up happening.

Brie Larson also sang backups on a track from Overexposed.

there really are few things more painful than watching a band you love devolve into something unrecognizable

It's so painful, I still have pointless hope they'll do a throwback album that sounds like the 1st two albums, but I know it'll never happen.

I liked their first few cd's too. But what does this have to do with being hipster?

@@pentexsucks43 The only way that'll happen is if they stop having hits.

​@@snoozyq9576maybe because back then it wasn't cool enough, therefore they changed to appeal more

Greys Anatomy…really popular that descends into ridiculousness but clearly people still watch it because it keeps getting renewed despite most of the hype around it being posts about it needing to end.

I am only a few minutes in but holy shit I HAVE LITERALLY MADE THIS COMPARISON as well!

Can we consider the Black Eyed Peas the hip-hop variant?

@@BrendanJSmith They absolutely are. As much as I agree with Mic that "sellout" is a dumb buzzword, acts like Maroon 5 and the Black Eyed Peas are the literal definition of selling out to a tee.

difference is Chicago were better songwriters.

And their hits are enjoyable.

this could be more than one song

Financially viable and relevant have different meanings. Also... "from that era"? When dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Hey, I spotted Thom Yorke in the wild! OMG. It's a Paul McCartney. I thought they were extinct!

paramore and arctic monkeys i feel hold that title, but at least their sounds changed in good ways lol

Many bands remain active for a long time but this particular comparison between Maroon 5 and and Coldplay is very accurate

@@jasminericenic Paramore and Arctic Monkeys are from a little bit later than Maroon 5 and Coldplay though.

Do people actually listen to Maroon 5 these days?! They haven’t made a decent album since 2010, and their last two albums were unlistenable. I find it hard to believe people would still listen to them! Coldplay’s latest album was poor but wasn’t Maroon 5 scale poor.

Idk. I started trusting Todd a lot less after last years top 10 lists. He truly is a changed man.

@@mocapcow2933 tbh, guy's always been fun, but never been particularly insightful. he always has an extremely surface level understanding of lyrics, which always leads to him not viewing a lyric poetically (e.g. him saying that the phrase is "salt in the wounds", not "a wound in salt" as the lyrics to good4u go, which is just a useless and anti-intellectual criticism, on a level perfectly apropos of Nostalgia Critic) or misinterpreting a lyric which makes perfect sense from the culture it was written within (see: him slamming that "Arcade" song* because he didn't know that arcades in Denmark generally have the connotation of being like casinos in America (not to mention how most arcades in America are essentially just glorified casinos too nowadays)). these are much bigger issues with taking him seriously as a critic than him putting MGK on his best of list. *which is an insipid song as is, there were so many other, better ways of digging into why it sucks, but this was basically his entire rant on it. he even mentions something like, "I may be missing some cultural context here," and it's like? yeah, duh, no shit. have you not seen an arcade in 2021, my guy? they're basically just slot machines with extra steps, lol. I've always been of the mind that it doesn't matter what you like or dislike as a critic, but how you substantiate your stances. and Todd honestly, continuously offers some pretty bad arguments for why a song is not up to snuff (sometimes the inverse). it's still fun to watch him, but I've rarely put much stock in his reviews.

@@MelMelodyWerner To be fair, Todd has been doing pop song reviews less and less these days. I think he's a great musical historian, and One Hit Wonderland and Trainwreckords lean into those strengths a lot better

@@grahamkristensen9301 I must be the only one who found half oh his pop reviews boring. I'm already aware those songs are bad or pointless, make somehting else. There's a reason why Trainwreckords and One Hit Wonderland are much praised.

@@MelMelodyWerner his saving grace for the past years has been trainwrecords

"It's Maroobing Time" Aroooooooooo!!!! 😆

I legit wouldn’t know he even existed if it wasn’t for Smooth becoming a meme in the SoundClown/mashup community, it’s wild

His solo stuff is super underrated. Lonely No More is an absolute banger

@@johnmarcdegaard6589 "Her Diamonds" too. The emotion in that song.

I actually plan on using his one Disney song (Little Wonders) as my wedding song, which is now prompting me into a deep dive. His voice is actually really good!

@@meganspalletta-ferrari6638 I used that one too!

Hey guess what

@@khalewren2734 it was everything I dreamt of

how does it feel to have totally called it

they fr had a lightning in a bottlle with their first 2 albums

It truly was their best album ever.

Literally me

me as well 💀

That's actually a really good point. I love Songs About Jane and It Won't Be Soon Before Long. They're very well-written and well-performed albums. However, would I have the same fondness for them if Maroon 5 didn't turn into the atrocity that they would become? I don't know. I'd probably just see them as very good albums, and nothing more than that. My love for them almost definitely does have something to do with rose-colored glasses based on what they became. Either way though, singles like Harder to Breathe, This Love, Makes Me Wonder, and Wake Up Call would still stand the test of time, as I can safely say those are some of my favorite rock(ish) songs of the 2000s, at least in terms of ones that were big hits.

One of the few albums I own physically, it’s such a classic!

I have it on VINYL. I love it

One of my first too. It was great.

I know people say this as a joke but I am deadly serious: This is insulting to tofu.

@@lepercolony8214 fr, and the thing with tofu is that the value and flexibility lies in what you make of and from it

@@booboosnack But that's my point: it exists not to stand on its own, but to become something by imitating something else. It's not chicken, but it can be flavored like chicken, but that also means it's an approximation of chicken and not the real thing. Its flexibility comes at the cost of lacking an identity of its own; it absorbs and simulates, but never creates. Just like Maroon 5.

@@jedshaffer5956 the issue is when you try to make it approximate another protein rather than treat it as its own thing. Like, everything you cook should have some sort of seasoning or other added flavor; does that mean everything is flavorless by itself?

@@lepercolony8214 But everything has its own natural flavor. Whether it's a protein or a vegetable or a grain, it all has its own flavor. Yes, you CAN season proteins, but they still have an inherent, natural flavor. You don't add tofu to a recipe for the taste of tofu. Its purpose is a substitute for something else, adopting the flavor of whatever it's being cooked with. A good cut of steak doesn't need to be seasoned if it's cooked right; you can't say that about tofu. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. That's just its function. If you're angry I've besmirched the good name of tofu, you've taken it the wrong way; it's a comparison about how tofu and Maroon 5 have no identity of their own; they're wholly dependent on what's around them to define them.

U right for this one

old maroon 5 stuff is great idgaf

@@maryfreegirl2029 what about recently? 😈

@@clementinelives lets not talk about it lol

Same. Can’t Stop is a banger

i have a love/hate relationship with m5 too iwbsbl + it’s b sides are literally amazing and i’ll die on that hill lol

HELMET MAROON FIVE CROSSOVER

@@heather2503 moves like Betty?

Milques like toast

Possibly haunted too

Yeah this theory definitely holds up. I'm pretty sure it was Kesha who started the whole "Swagger/Jagger" thing in her song "Tik Tok", and the next logical step was taken by Cher Lloyd who made a whole song out of it with "Swagger Jagger" - a song that is still to this day one of the worst songs I've ever heard. And so I guess Maroon 5 represented the final culmination of that absolutely insane trend when they made a song about how Adam Levine had the "moves like Jagger" (still an absolutely buckwild mental image) without even mentioning Swagger at all.

That was on Conan O'Brien. That footage was taken from a rerun on Comedy Central.

@@grahamkristensen9301 oohhh gotcha

6:54

@@ringer1324 Songs About Jane is a classic

Now, let it be said, probably a little insensitive at the time, but well surcharges in hindsight.

I could have sworn he mentioned that in the video.

It's that but it's also the fact that he's not pop, rock, hip hop, rap, or R&B. Young people make the trends and young people don't listen to country music

You cant mention Garth, without mentioning Chris Gaines.

He clearly does not go to karaoke bars often if he says he doesn't hear Garth's music because Friends in Low Places is one of the most excessively overdone songs in the entire catalog of music