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Deep FE12 Draft Race Analysis! 

Mekkah
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I go over my preparation and thought process before and during the FE12 Draft Race from last Saturday: my main strategy going into the draft, what units I was considering getting, what I thought my opponents would do, and thoughts on what they ended up going with.
You can watch that draft race back here: • Fire Emblem New Myster...
dondon is also planning on uploading his gameplay perspective on his channel, for those of you wondering.
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22 авг 2024

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@DD151
@DD151 3 года назад
On staff users: I'd actually argue that Wendell is the best staff user, because Yuliya doesn't come "for free" - you can complete chapter 4 much faster if you throw Yuliya into a pile of enemies and Rescue Marth. Wendell comes totally for free and is only 8 staff uses away from C as a bishop, which you will get naturally playing through Anri's Way. He might even naturally get to B for Again. I'd also give Malicia the slight edge over Yuliya, because recruiting Malicia is a short detour in chapter 1 without any extra combat. Hammerne is almost definitely not worth it, though. I definitely think that Physic and Again were overvalued. I personally only went for the chapter 10 Physic and didn't use it more than a couple of times in the whole run. My reasoning was that healing is slow and chugging Vulneraries was better. Staffing is slower than using Vulneraries because it causes the EXP bar to increase and costs time when the healer levels up. Again is neat, but its use in chapter 20 was only brought about by not reclassing your Hardin killer to a setup that could 2RKO him. If you aren't doing multiple refreshes in 1 turn, you can replicate the Again effect by warping Phina. Of all of the racers, I think I was the only one who bothered to recruit Minerva, funnily enough. I suppose if I actually drafted a carry, I wouldn't need her Dragonpike to kill chapter 11 wyverns.
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 года назад
For me a big reason for wanting Physic uses was that you can Physic+Vulnerary a character so they can heal more than 10 HP while only doing one action. It's also just a nice emergency help button if you screw up something. If you don't have a turn to turn plan for the whole race that seems like a nice backup to have, especially when the alternative is more combat I don't need. For the other racers I think such a safety net would've been really good as well. I agree with your conclusion that you're not crucial but I do think they all should've gone round 2. Again Staff definitely wouldn't have been needed with a Sniper in the last map I'll agree, though I'd need to double check if Catria had capped speed as a Sniper. At one time in planning I was under the impression that you needed Again to skip the reinforcements in 19, though that turned out not to be the case for many reasons.
@kirbymastah
@kirbymastah 3 года назад
Dondon151 more like DoneDone151 with the race
@farmingsim9813
@farmingsim9813 3 года назад
The fact that DonDon was an hour ahead with only free units just shows how good he is at FE.
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 3 года назад
The only thing to analyse here is how dondon beat them using less units
@Sashitoge
@Sashitoge 3 года назад
Dondon beat them using power limiters
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 3 года назад
out here doing base form when everyone is on super saiyan
@Fizzicles
@Fizzicles 3 года назад
Please yes more. I love this kind of thing.
@JP54704
@JP54704 3 года назад
Dondon Ramsay just roasting everyone on that draft race by using only free units.
@Chaoseyes
@Chaoseyes 3 года назад
"Picking a lot of combat units is a bit of a pitfall" draft race pitfalls when, Mekkah?
@DD151
@DD151 3 года назад
The logical conclusion of that statement is that picking any units at all is a bit of a pitfall. Which may also be a true statement, given the race results :P
@techinalmachine
@techinalmachine 3 года назад
They might need to only let you use archer kris, just to make it more fair
@meisterschwert
@meisterschwert 2 года назад
@@DD151 Mind proving that in Awakening with Free Units only? Kappa You're Welcome, Meister
@acsu96
@acsu96 3 года назад
I'll have to check out the vod, I only caught the stream after dondon had finished and thought he was just commentating since I thought his "drafted" team was a joke
@UltaFlame
@UltaFlame 3 года назад
Well, he didn't draft anyone... lol
@acsu96
@acsu96 3 года назад
@@UltaFlame yeah, I just didn't realize he actually did the run
@UltaFlame
@UltaFlame 3 года назад
@@acsu96 it's always interesting watching him play. He did say something interesting - he was able to plan out the entire thing turn by turn because he knew exactly who he had available. It actually gave him a bit of an advantage
@acsu96
@acsu96 3 года назад
@@UltaFlame I guess that just shows how much of an effect choice paralysis can have
@UltaFlame
@UltaFlame 3 года назад
@@acsu96 I mean there's also that Dondon has a lot more experience with the game than the others
@Lukaliber
@Lukaliber 3 года назад
I'm starting to think that Dondon is a TAS bot
@Zackerton
@Zackerton 3 года назад
No he Is just japanesse
@basedgebby5820
@basedgebby5820 3 года назад
DonDon: *plays the game with 5 units* DonDon: *wins*
@kentmichaelgalang686
@kentmichaelgalang686 3 года назад
dondon, the sensei, came first with only free units, and mekkah, his pupil, came second while playing normally with drafted units. they both finished around 6 hours before the other two. idk about y'all, but i find this too beautiful. it really shows the skill dondon and mekkah are known for.
@chengyanboon
@chengyanboon 3 года назад
I think it's more that it shows what different approaches to the game can accomplish. Mekkah obviously knows FE12 very well and knows the generally accepted optimal strats well enough to have a good game plan going into each chapter, but dondon was able to leverage his knowledge of stat benchmarks and AI manipulation to preplan the entire run turn by turn with practiced inputs. Not only did that mean that he was at baseline way faster it also made him able to improvise at critical moments since his understanding of what was needed was so high level. Everyone else was far less familiar with the game but I think were influenced by dondon's 0 percent playthrough to try to speed run the game his way but without the turn by turn planning that makes it all work. But that's okay - they still got through in 9 hours which is still miles faster than most FE12 casual playthroughs and they did it without warping Marth.
@traskmaster9265
@traskmaster9265 3 года назад
This was really fun to watch!
@jackryan2952
@jackryan2952 3 года назад
I desire this series. KEEP IT UP!
@25circlegaming
@25circlegaming 3 года назад
dondon was a beast in this run
@FIFAmusicMAN
@FIFAmusicMAN 3 года назад
Loved it! Definitely love getting into your mindset! Also love the possibility of the recorded play through with your team!!!
@genuineangusbeef8697
@genuineangusbeef8697 3 года назад
I feel like just looking at this draft makes me feel like DSFE games teach the player not to value human lives
@Zackerton
@Zackerton 3 года назад
These are very japanesse game
@rolandlaboulaye6502
@rolandlaboulaye6502 3 года назад
This is exactly the type of video I had been hoping for!
@steve2242
@steve2242 3 года назад
This becoming a series would be pretty great!
@auroraborealis4468
@auroraborealis4468 3 года назад
I'd love to see more stuff like this!
@wronghouse5833
@wronghouse5833 3 года назад
23:48 "I could use Again twice with these." Or you could say you can use Again again :/
@amrithas182
@amrithas182 3 года назад
For me your draft races are the best content...also link arena
@b-bum
@b-bum 3 года назад
I'm only now realizing how many units this game has... Like holy shit there's almost 80 of them.
@NontpNonjo
@NontpNonjo 3 года назад
Aren't there over 100? I remember hearing that somewhere
@b-bum
@b-bum 3 года назад
I think that counts uniquely named replacement units, since I think those are in this game too
@NontpNonjo
@NontpNonjo 3 года назад
@@b-bum Ah, that makes sense. Can't spell unit without Unil... or something.
@jeroenveen3710
@jeroenveen3710 3 года назад
Please more content like this.
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 3 года назад
6:33 only if you beat it once on hard, otherwise they're stuck between 2 class paths, path A and path B.
@PeevedLatias
@PeevedLatias 3 года назад
I'd be interested in an analysis of the race itself, although it could be potentially interesting as a scripted or at the very least edited playthrough since not every move was important and I imagine there'll be a lot of dead air in a 4 hours run.
@toby_xander866
@toby_xander866 3 года назад
One thing I'd love to see you cover would be how do you plan chapters out? I really wanted to learn how to do it
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 года назад
I'll show that in a follow up video I think :) But generally it comes down to finding one solution that's both decently fast and easy to execute, regardless of RNG.
@JC-zn4pk
@JC-zn4pk 3 года назад
Thanks!
@Elgrande-yr4gb
@Elgrande-yr4gb 3 года назад
YES YES YES YES
@valeriedure2341
@valeriedure2341 3 года назад
Yes please!!!
@SilentVinyl
@SilentVinyl 3 года назад
Fire Emblem 12 sure does have loads of units
@novagears3604
@novagears3604 3 года назад
well if youre going to read this can you do waifu for marriane shes really good if used well
@ninjacolin7982
@ninjacolin7982 3 года назад
I want more :)
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