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Deep Space Nine Reviewed! (by a pedant) S2E12: THE ALTERNATE 

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@Unlimited_Lives
@Unlimited_Lives 2 месяца назад
Today's Thought Experiment: What did we end up doing with the stele?
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
Put In storage for use in a later episode
@no_one_of_that_name_here
@no_one_of_that_name_here Месяц назад
Unthinkingly smashed by Picard after crash landing
@ultimateelderscrolls6837
@ultimateelderscrolls6837 Месяц назад
Sharp eyes would no doubt find it on a few homeworlds of Voyager's aliens of the week.
@KingSidJames
@KingSidJames Месяц назад
Appearing in a charity shop near you soon.
@AvatarRiku
@AvatarRiku Месяц назад
Take it back to Earth to put in the British museum
@VGresearcher
@VGresearcher Месяц назад
Another one so soon! I appreciate this, and please don't push yourself too much.
@woogha
@woogha Месяц назад
Id say Deep Space Nine does Daddy Issues better than most fictional worlds. There are so many good parental stories to be told here and almost always they get it right.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault Месяц назад
Id broadly agree with that.
@Mobysimo
@Mobysimo Месяц назад
Considering how his own people treated Odo when he was a baby…it makes Odo’s adopted dad look nice in comparison.
@TenniellesChannel
@TenniellesChannel Месяц назад
Whenever I see this actor I always think hey that's Odo's dad Thanks for another great review 😁👍you are appreciated
@Tolly7249
@Tolly7249 Месяц назад
Poor Odo. His people turn out to be jackasses, his adoptive 'father' is a manipulative git, and his best friend is the criminal he constantly butts heads with. Thank goodness he builds more friendships over time.
@stormclawponyrises1195
@stormclawponyrises1195 Месяц назад
Im autistic and while Odo as a charqcter is super different to me, i relate to him in a lot of episodes that focus on him, this one being no exception. The way Dr Mora treats him is so familiar to ways my family have treated me growing up- constantly talking over me and questioning the people i consider friends and loved ones, and repeatedly insisting that im never going to be fully independent and that i should move back in with my parents or im going to suffer with adulthood. Instead of being treated like a human adult i am treated like a puppy who can do a couple cool tricks (from the way mum talks about me to people...in front of me). It really makes it hard for me not to hate Dr Mora because it doesnt feel fair for Odo, just like it doesnt feel fair for me
@SovietReunionYT
@SovietReunionYT 17 дней назад
Ouch. Know that cutting contact is an option. Dont let them manipulate you into sacrificing your happiness for their benefit.
@captainyossarian388
@captainyossarian388 Месяц назад
13:55 Wow, hadn't even occurred to me until now that Odo had imitated Mora's hair style.
@Nesenda
@Nesenda Месяц назад
Youre spoiling us. thank you
@ultimateelderscrolls6837
@ultimateelderscrolls6837 Месяц назад
Yours is the only channel I'm subscribed to where I always catch the uploads within the first 5 minutes. Jake tells me it's kismet.
@molly-zx9cr
@molly-zx9cr Месяц назад
Same!
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
​@@molly-zx9cr ditto
@dyne313
@dyne313 Месяц назад
Normally it's because I know the schedule. 11:45 AM Central Time Tuesdays and Fridays. But I caught this one within the first hour by chance.
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
@dyne313 it takes 2 extra mins to get to west coast I get it at 9:47 ... I thought he posted at 47 for obvious reasons ... I hope he dosent make me clean out the holodeck filters again
@dyne313
@dyne313 Месяц назад
@@alexneff Maybe it is 47. I don't usually wait on it. I just watch other stuff until I see it pop up in between other videos.
@dm121984
@dm121984 Месяц назад
I do love the detail of Ferengi bodies being sold after death, and how Quark was selling off bogus disks. For what it's worth, I do believe Quark was deceived for once and thought they where genuine. I liked this episode a fair bit as it gives Odo alot of backstory whilst still keeping his origin a mystery. Dr Mora does feel like a dad who's little too proud of himself and of what his child has done rather than of who the child has become. I do like these hints as to Odo's origin and the planet they visited could be linked to the ancient past of the shape shifters, possibly even their origin in solid forms. Odo as a monster is ok but not amazing, and Dr Mora ranting at Odo about being locked away or being in a zoo felt like it came out of no where. Still, a decent outing.
@KertaDrake
@KertaDrake 6 дней назад
It would be VERY Ferengi to take the discs of loved ones that no one wanted to buy, then to just relabel them and sell them off as pieces of famous/infamous Ferengi as well.
@maltoNitho
@maltoNitho Месяц назад
DO 👏 NOT 👏 overcompensate for being sick. You posted the "I'm sick--it'll be late" video and that's all you needed to do. And then you posted yesterday's video and now this today. Don't feel obligated to us. I'm a patron and I'd rather you have a buffer of a video for the next time when you're sick rather than do more now. (At least, that's what this spicy brain thinks might be happening in your spicy brain. Seriously, nothing but love.)
@Unlimited_Lives
@Unlimited_Lives Месяц назад
You're not entirely wrong about feeling a need to compensate, though this is also a calculated choice. My throat still isn't right, but recording isn't making it any *less* right. If it was causing actual harm I'd stop. The recovery isn't going quickly so, realistically, I either carry on as is or wait for an indefinite return date. That's not something I can realistically do. I promise you continuing is having no measurable negative impact on my health or recovery. I spend half the day coughing whether I record or not so I may as well get on with it. That's actually better for my mental health right now as the distraction is useful.
@reaverofjillsandwiches
@reaverofjillsandwiches Месяц назад
Great review as always. It's a shame we don't get a bit more between Odo and Mora as I feel there are more stories to be told.
@DonMatek
@DonMatek Месяц назад
Another Upload? Madlad! Thank you.
@KingSidJames
@KingSidJames Месяц назад
Ooo deep cut on Janeway!
@sevans4782
@sevans4782 Месяц назад
When do we get the first episode of the greatest TV show ever? Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
Coming fall 2027
@Ceece20
@Ceece20 Месяц назад
15:40 I always considered this to be an OCD thing that Odo seems to have, and this is just an early hint/indication. Odo seemed a bit stressed at the time and the OCD he has about everything being exactly where it was left can trigger more stress. It might have contributed to his mental state going into disarray, though the lion share of that was caused by the Doctor.
@TyrMcDohl
@TyrMcDohl Месяц назад
Classy gag at the end there.
@LucasKeesee-vm8yp
@LucasKeesee-vm8yp Месяц назад
@@TyrMcDohl Maybe they're from the cutting room floor timeline. We might not be able to hear the end about all the mentoring Harry Kim got.
@apexapey
@apexapey Месяц назад
@Unlimited_Lives 14:24 in the background on the right, one of the Photos on the console looks strikingly Talaxian! Out here, in the Alpha Quadrant?
@ptonpc
@ptonpc Месяц назад
They were on Delta Shift, Space and Skull Dogs, that's why you never saw them (PS, nice to show the original Janeway). This episode was trying to do a lot of heavy lifting within the confines of time and format. I felt it succeeded to a large degree.
@DirtyHairy1
@DirtyHairy1 Месяц назад
...what was a lifeform is now a deadform... COL coughed out loud
@philipjay2099
@philipjay2099 Месяц назад
Be still my heart!!
@gerrimilner9448
@gerrimilner9448 Месяц назад
i see this so differently now, i had a narcissistic mother and thought this was a lovely family reunion episode. now after a fair amount of therapy, i see how horrid this relationship was. thank God for the NHS
@mb2000
@mb2000 Месяц назад
Why doesn’t Dr. Mora wear a Bajoran earring? He does in a later episode.
@garethspotfur1
@garethspotfur1 Месяц назад
the space dog plot thickens. have they perhaps time traveled to an alternate? that they never met the frenchies because they ARE them in this world? wheels within wheels. yeah i know, silly stuff to play over the credits, but i am a massive nerd.
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs Месяц назад
7:58 ...except that the scientific phenomena aren't trying to lie to you.
@ThomasReeves-s7u
@ThomasReeves-s7u Месяц назад
As a boy I knew of stories of people with my condition (osteogenesis imperfecta) who lived in institutions and were maybe experimented on. I did not experience that but one doctor basically said I would be of more value as an experiment than anything. And online when I said that story someone actually said "did you ever consider he was right?" Also people would come to see me to ask if I could talk. Not saying my life was bad, it wasn't, and I was raised by my parents not an institution. Still to a degree I think I might have seen Mora as more like those doctors at institutions many kids like me ended up in than as a Dad. Granted I'm not totally sure how I felt when I saw this episode new, but I think I was largely unsympathetic to Mora. I could see forgiving him and also not wanting him to be in my life at all. (Like "I don't think you're a bad man, but your part of a past I have moved away from so you're not relevant to my life now.")
@alexejfrohlich5869
@alexejfrohlich5869 Месяц назад
you know you are in deep f'ed up territory and it becomes almost impossible to find a solution when reversing the polarity is NOT an option! kudos for them to still manage to pull it off!
@danshive4017
@danshive4017 Месяц назад
I can imagine someone in the moment convincing themselves that they're not being selfish or manipulative, and for it to not even have consciously occurred to them that that's what they might be doing. Which wouldn't change the fact that that's exactly what they were doing, or even that they didn't mean to do it on some level. Our minds are interesting in that we give ourselves little outs by not considering things with conscious language. Some part of him may well have calculated "here's my chance to get Odo back in my lab", but only in an abstract, emotional sense, and not with words spelled out in his mind. It's one of the many ways our own brains can give us plausible deniability in spite of them, deep down, knowing exactly what they're doing. (Which isn't always the case, a person can genuinely just make a mistake without part of them scheming behind the scenes, but that's less likely when there's something selfish they definitely want that the act they're doing might get them.)
@noahLogue-x5l
@noahLogue-x5l Месяц назад
Wow he's back already .😂
@Cameron_Bell
@Cameron_Bell Месяц назад
Hey Unlimited Lives, pilfering the stone monolith must drive must drive archaeologists nuts, Sisko wonders if Dax should be released from infirmary, Dax says she snuck out wearing a gown that didn't close in back, doesn't Bashir have authority to keep there if he want to? & why was Dax wearing a gown that didn't close in back when O'Brien wears one two shows later that does? Did Bashir arrange 4 Dax 2 wear a gown that didn't close in back & enjoyed watching her sneak out of infirmary that he judged her healthy enough 2 leave? When O'Brien crawls thru conduit he says thru his communicator "it almost sounds like...... i can't describe it"? How about "a low moaning accompanied by a clinking sound"? With Bajorans believing in the prophets why does Mora say "Dear god, what have i done"? At the end Odo collapses in exhaustion he's blobby monster yet he morphs into humanoid shape as he falls 2 the floor, shouldn't he turn into a liquid if he's that worn out? Mora scooping up liquid while saying "We have a lot to talk about" probably won't have the same impact & his clothes should melt as well. Also why is Odo gasping 4 air if he doesn't have respiratory system? At the beginning of episode Odo is using pretense when talking 2 Quark about death rituals. Isn't it a ruse 2 draw out truth that Quark isn't selling pieces of Plegg because Plegg is still alive & Odo does't use pretense according to "Past Prologue". Nog really is back @ school. When Dax beams up stone monolith the ground starts shaking, she tells computer realign transporter, it takes a really long time 4 this happen. Then 4 people are transported but "The Homecoming" seems to indicate only 2 at once? Let's ignore Dax being a trill because in TNG "The Host" Trill symbionts are damaged by transporters? At least Sisko got a better pillow!
@ultimateelderscrolls6837
@ultimateelderscrolls6837 Месяц назад
Wait, did you invent a new word? "Betentacled"? I need to use this, and I know the perfect context...
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
Context... while watching henti the monster betentacled the gurls in more ways then one
@empirejeff
@empirejeff Месяц назад
Be nice to Odo.
@tisFrancesfault
@tisFrancesfault Месяц назад
Man, mora was stilll a better father i had, at least he was interested.
@glasswhisperer
@glasswhisperer Месяц назад
Wait, it's Saturday what did I miss
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs Месяц назад
3:11 Even on my phone, with the brightness turned all the way down, it does look like a painting. What is this? A stage play? How did they ever get away with this?
@j2the3po
@j2the3po Месяц назад
Standard-definition television? And I take a painting over a lot of the CG I seen in movies anyday.
@MKDumas1981
@MKDumas1981 Месяц назад
9:24 - Alive and Weld*
@alexneff
@alexneff Месяц назад
Mora should have been odo out of makeup
@Jamie_E_Pritchard
@Jamie_E_Pritchard Месяц назад
They've done that so often it's practically a trope.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 Месяц назад
​@@Jamie_E_Pritchardprobably too obvious (and unnecessarily complicated to shoot), especially since they had already gone to that well with Data and Dr. Soong.
@inthestudy
@inthestudy Месяц назад
woof.
@johnmandrage3248
@johnmandrage3248 Месяц назад
Wait a second, did they ever mention what the monument was that they stole?
@wendyheatherwood
@wendyheatherwood Месяц назад
My bet? A warning sign. "Warning. Sensitive mining area. Use of teleporters may result in unpredictable seismic activity and is strictly prohibited. NO TELEPORTING. Fines of up to £150 may be issued."
@flinty8121
@flinty8121 Месяц назад
You still sound poorly sir :( :( :(
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