Oil and gas expert, Bob Cavnar, explains the concerns facing the Deer Park community are as the pipeline fire continues to burn for more than 24 hours.
Because they investigated whether it was terror-related. Turns out it was an old lady having a health episode in her vehicle and she crashed into the pipe.
@@guitarmetaldemon The innocent cause of the accident is not to be doubted, However the lack of failsafe technology, or automatic shut-off valves is Stupid. The lack of protective infrastructure is predicated by profit motives of petroleum companies. Ultimately, evaluating safety of infrastructure is the responsibility of Our queer Transportation Secretary.
The first time I saw that car there, I guessed it hit it. The problem I see is why there are no bollards. Major pipeline infrastructure near a road should REQUIRE them. This is the result of NOT having them.
I work with nonhazardous waste and i am required to have all of that stuff around my facility and I am out in the middle of nowhere. I'm also required to have rules relating to BS that is literally impossible to implement too (thanks to bra inde ad bi de n bureaucracy), so there's that too.
I don't disagree that bollards should be around these type of exposed valves. The thing is though, there are several of these around the Houston area, and none of them have any significant protection. I see them around town all the time.
Every gas station has those bollards next to the pumps. It doesn’t seem like a big ask to require those at fossil fuel product pipeline valve stations.
On a T4 pipeline, shutoff values must be less than 9.5 miles apart. If we consider that this site may be one of the shut off valve sites, then 9 miles north and 9.5 miles south would be 19 miles MAXIMUM. Typically, the shutoff valves are anywhere from 5 to 9 miles apart based on the pipeline purpose. If the owner is reporting 20 miles, I would say that it is just a rough estimate as the law would have it at a maximum of 19. Regardless, that's a lot of product.
I dont know what the current standards are now but any above ground pipeline valve nearby a traffic area should be protected with concrete or steel barriers.
@bingo7799, You are 100% Correct! Especially with all the terrorist that the Bidin administration have let into our country! All exposed pipes should have fortified barriers to prevent accidents like this happening! I can't believe they only have a chain link fence to protect them. ???
10 feet of K Rail is $413. ALL of these places should be surrounded by K rail or similar posts or products. They will never do it on their own. The government needs to mandate it.
@@biffhenderson1144 You'd think that just the liability and loss risk would get them to put up an inexpensive barrier. Of course when the government gets involved the costs go up 10+ times.
Dumb questions! Who is going to pay for the burnt homes and the people that were force to leave their homes? Ask questions that matter to the people affected.
This guy saying it was intentional? I think they already said they think the driver had a seizure. You can drive after having had a seizure, but only with a doctor permission. Unfortunately, some people may not tell their doctor if they had a seizure and seizures are not always something you can plan for. Also, there have been multiple pipeline explosions this past year and they weren't intentional or sabotaged. Can tell who pays this guy.
You can drive after having a seizure as long as ~6 months pass since the last one. They are actually pretty common and you can have them completely randomly. Some may not even know they had one.
Everyone is afraid to say anything to the effect that this could have been prevented. Hilarious. Cowards. Profit over people, as always. Good to know it's so freaking easy to cause a tragedy. No problems at all here...not one
Let's wait until something really bad happens before we do something to "harden" defenses $$$ around these facilities. This community is already there $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
There’s no subaerial pollutants from a natural gas burn. It’s just putting CO2 into the atmosphere, basically. All the cars that drive by your home are putting way worse pollutants into your air.
The line is likely coming from around Ellington afb and headed to Mont Belvieu for processing. It’s likely coming down all the way from the Permian basin.
I agree they should do more to protect the pipe. But why anyone would buy a home next to that ROW is crazy. You got power transmission lines and multiple pipelines right behind you.
10 feet of K Rail is $413. ALL of these places should be surrounded by K rail or similar posts or products. They will never do it on their own. The government needs to mandate it.
They’ll have to force the petro companies to install even the most basic protection. They fight that kind of thing because the cost of accidents is way less than prevention. 🙄
Need more protection, I worked on a Hydrogen station years ago. The architect had 8 inch steel pipe around the perimeter every 4 feet. They were 4 feet in concrete and then filed with concrete. Maybe we need a little more than chain-link fence.
In all fairness, hydrogen is WAY more dangerous than LNG (and more expensive). Any significant concentration of hydrogen represents a much greater concern security-wise
Thanks Bob Cavnar. Texas is known for being one of the strictest states for pipeline regulations. I learned a lot about that belonging to NACE, and visiting that area for pipeline meetings. The pipeline station I was associated with had steel bumpers around them. I was surprised to see an at grade well head station didn't have protection around it.
You just contradicted yourself. A competent regulation would have protected exposed pipes like this with more than a fence. Greed caused this. And incompetent planning. Concrete bollards and high strength steel railing are readily available. He just said they had warnings all over, THEY NEW THE DANGER!
You can see it on google street view. The pics from the road are from 2023 and it looked bad then. Nothing outwardly dangerous, just disorganized and unkept. I also figured there'd be a fence at the highway limiting access but it looks like you can just drive right in.
I'm not a engineer, but doesn't this point out that more cut off valves, and diverters might be a good idea, seems it would be safer, and save lots and lots of money.
The evidence doesn't conclude as "intentional" or "sabatoge". Ole' Bob doesn't want a lawsuit so he's reaching........... As of now it was an elderly lady who lost control of her vehicle. I'm pretty sure she's no longer with us.
20" Pipe, 1 cu. ft. per 5 inches of pipe. 2.4 cu. ft. per foot of pipe. 5280 ft/mile X 20 miles X 2.4 = 253,440 cu ft of flammable product. At 7.5 US gallons per cu.ft, this is 1,900,000 US Gallons, assuming in a Liquified State !
Eventhouh pumping station is miles away from accident area, why cannot push Carbon dioxide powder throuugh the suction side of the pumping station ? Once flame little under control then firefighters can do something to put off the fire.
It's crazy that they had no way to stop the flow of gas faster. It seems that would be perhaps a better way to "harden". It's much less of a deal if someone runs over a valve to start a fire, if you can stop the flow of gas and have the fire out relatively quickly.
1400psi 20” pipe even if there was an immediate termination the fact the pipe hit the shutoff valve meant it was the two closest ones would react and that means miles of pipe that needs to burn off before it’s safe to quench the flame. Unable to see the full point of the damage they can’t ascertain if it won’t just explode with worse force damaging and rupturing the 4-20 other pipelines that run through the area. There is a lot of moving parts. Keep in mind this is being taken care of in the span of two days. In the Middle East they had months of something similar happen.
@@TGHibiki right, but some better way to stop the gas. Maybe the valves are just too far apart. Or maybe they need something along the lines of a portable BOP that can be wrapped around existing pipe, etc.. we put a man on the moon decades ago, surely we can come up with a way to stop the flow of gas faster if we're motivated.
@@TGHibiki Except for leak monitors and valves itself, pipelines have very little to no moving parts. Adding safety valves that eat into profit margins would be too expensive to implement. Oil & gas executives sees redundant safety measures as unnecessary spending and found that it would be more useful to funnel the money towards exec bonuses that motivates them to look for more spending cuts. It was alarming to them that current bonus checks doesn't even cover their annual private jet lease/maintenance 🎉
I think it's irresponsible of Bob Cavnar to call it a deliberate act when there is no evidence at this time to support his claim. Especially given that there were eyewitnesses that saw a senior citizen driving the SUV and in their observation, she seemed to be having a medical event such as a heart attack. That said, I do believe stronger barriers should have been around the valve
How is this Ted Cruz's fault or responsibility? Maybe Kamala can use our tax dollars for detained migrants to get transition surgeries, like she expressed interest in 2019? Demoncraps are awful.
