DEITY TC-1 Timecode Generator - Automating video and sound sync demonstration

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In this week’s episode, we have a look at Deity’s TC-1 wireless timecode generator. This timecode system uses Bluetooth 5.0 to wirelessly jam units in addition to traditional hardware jamming capability. The TC-1 also includes a Bluetooth connectivity range of 250 feet, a locking 3.5 mm timecode port, and compatibility with all SMPTE timecode formats. Deity also claims excellent accuracy, with performance up to 0.5 ppm (1 frame drift per 72-hour period). In this episode we walk through the TC-1’s feature set and test out its performance in a variety of tests. Let’s take a closer look!
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#Deity #Timecode #TC-1
Index:
00:00 Start
00:15 Summary
00:24 What is timecode/how does it work?
02:58 Syncing audio to video in Davinci Resolve
04:11 DEITY TC-1 pros
10:31 Pricing
11:23 DEITY TC-1 cons
13:54 Wrap-up
14:13 Please buy my courses

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@DustinShort Год назад

Massive thumbs up just for advocating unions to improve working conditions, lengths of days!

@curtisjudd Год назад

🙏

@RandumbTech Год назад

TC has been a game changer for my workflow - glad there are even more options available! I use a pair of Tentacle Sync E's along with a Track E connected to either my VideoMic NTG or Lav Mic. I jam sync my Zoom F6 and am off and running with no fuss, 32-bit glory for a full day of recording. I literally hit record at the beginning of the day and use those continuous audio files to replace the scratch audio from my cameras. It takes just a couple of minutes in Davinci Resolve and is 100% perfect every time. I am still surprised that more people don't use TC - perhaps they don't realize how easy it is to use now? Thanks for covering this very important topic! Also, one thing to note is that Tentacle Sync has incredible customer support. I had one unit that was not powering down completely and they overnighted me a replacement from Germany. I'm a nobody and they did that for me - speaks volumes to their values and focus on customer satisfaction.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks for sharing your experience 🙏

@plumberparts Год назад

Does Premier have any option for doing this?

@stuartneale_for_glory_of_YHWH Год назад

Curtis, this is a lovely, well paced, informative, accurate presentation out of all the ones I have researched for this product. I purchased the product s9me weeks before viewing this video and confirm every single work spoken here! And I just like your style, it’s great. Blessings to you and your family :)

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks, Stuart.

@curtisjudd Год назад

When filming at frame rates higher than 30 fps, DEITY says this is possible using the method they outline here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IiwcMukmdfI.html Important correction: at 6:04, when we visually demonstrate a "wired jam", we are actually jamming the devices wirelessly without the Sidus Audio app. If you want to do a wired jam sync, you can do that via the same TC menu, but select "EXT". Also set the Output type to L-out which means line out. Also, *some Arri Alexa models have a timecode generator built-in.

@derfusimedia 4 месяца назад

thank you curtis for this detailed look at the tc-1

@jeffreyhackmedia Год назад

Thanks for this video Curtis! I've been toying around with my two Deity TC-1 Boxes and your video helped clarify a few questions I had regarding the timecode settings.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks, Jeff. Happy recording!

@VincentRozenberg Год назад

Great demo Curtis! One note though: at 6:04, when you demonstrate a "wired jam", you are actually jamming the devices wirelessly as well. What you are demonstrating there is the function to jam the devices WITHOUT the app (thus from master to client device), directly. If you want to do a wired jam sync, you can do that via the same TC menu, but select "EXT" (this also means you need to set the i.o to "Line in". Cheers, Vincent (Deity Microphones Europe)

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks for the clarification, Vincent 🙏

@ahriik Год назад

Glad to see these perform well! Was planning on adding a third Tentacle to my kit soon, but after these were announced I held off to see if they're as good as they seem on paper. Never really had issues with the Tentacles, but I do like that the TC-1 has a screen and a physical dial/button - it's always been slightly annoying having to pull out my phone and launch the Tentacle Sync app and wait for it to connect to the boxes if I need to view/adjust settings. I do appreciate the existence of an app though. Being $60 cheaper is also nice :) It's also worth mentioning that although the Tentacle Sync Studio program is paid software (and also only works on Mac OS), they also offer a completely free app (Tentacle Timecode Tool) that allows you to convert audio TC to metadata TC, and can transcode footage as well. It's maybe not as intuitive or comprehensive as the paid tool, but for most people it'll definitely get the job done -works on Windows too!

@curtisjudd Год назад

I agree. Gear that relies on phones or tablets to operate become not-so-convenient on set, especially when you have multiple products that need an app.

@calebr Год назад

Great video. I dunno why TC has always been something difficult for my brain to comprehend. Curtis is a great educator!

@curtisjudd 11 месяцев назад

👍

@EquatorialVillager Год назад

Great review. It's awesome that we have lots of "consumer" TC available these days.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks, and yes, nice to have all these options!

@liavalero6222 Месяц назад

Very good explanation! Everything way much easier with the app.

@curtisjudd Месяц назад

👍

@stfncreatormodeon Год назад

thank you for your great work Curtis 👌

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks!

@AdvistaVideo Год назад

Thanks for this review. I shoot with 4 cameras and 2 audio recorders and have been looking for something like this.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Wow, that sounds complicated. I hope this helps!

@EmeraldAudiovisual Год назад

Another great "budget" solution. Thank you.

@curtisjudd Год назад

👍

@lorawaloski Год назад

After a nightmare of a project where I had 6 video sources (3 BMPCC4Ks, a Sony A7III, an iPhone, and a DJI Osmo Action cam), 4 audio sources (studio Rode NTG shotgun mic, a Tascam X8 with a Shure MV7, and 2 Rode Wireless Go IIs) and finding out later that the while the BMPCC4Ks had timecode, two of them had no scratch audio.... I find myself looking into timecode generators with an entirely renewed interest and willing to pay the price needed to save it in post 😅 Thanks for the solid review as always, Curtis.

@curtisjudd Год назад

I feel that! Some productions are tough. I hope adding generators will make post a lot easier for you!

@randomgeocacher Год назад

LTC audio -> TimeCode feels a bit like a perfect little project for a small open source / GitHub project. Simple, constrained problem domain, well spec’ed, etc.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Agreed!

@mribi Год назад

Agreed, I’d be happy to help out but I’m mainly PHP and swift

@MaxKosenko Год назад

Check a GitHub before you will make a new one.

@ecmjr 9 месяцев назад

Very nice tutorial and intro to Timecode. Looks like it’s Time for me to get a set… :)

@curtisjudd 9 месяцев назад

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@IdShift Год назад

thanks for that. I did not know that Premiere did not support audio timecode tracks. Very helpful.

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@ShelbyWatson Год назад

Knowing Andrew, who works at Deity, I wouldn’t be surprised if they offer a battery changing kit or point you in the direction to change the battery yourself. This aspect from Deity is a big reason I like them so much.

@curtisjudd Год назад

👍

@philpritchard5173 Год назад

Nice review thanks Curtis. Yes agreed, these arev v affordable for time code units.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks Phil. 👍

@rorobobo8401 Год назад

I bought two and they worked great on 2 Arris once you set it to resync mode. The only downside is the battery life, but at the price it’s amazing.

@curtisjudd Год назад

👍

@starky497 8 дней назад

Crystal clear!

@curtisjudd 4 дня назад

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@kelvinfunkner Год назад

wow...excellent. Thanks!

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@gillesmatheronpro Год назад

This, suddenly, reminds me of "Timecode", the film directed by Mike Figgis. The guy was know for many good things, including "Stormy Monday" (starring Mélanie Griffith, Tommy Lee Jones, Sting), and some other gems. When giving acting workshops, I often used "Timecode" as a reference for multicamera filmings and the observation skills each talent must use on a film set. I remember what Figgis said about writing and setting the film up. He used music score sheets to synchronize all cameras, writing all movements and actions on each line, etc. etc. I guess he had no TC system to do the task. But when watching the result, one must admit he reached perfection : this film actually stand on its own as one of the most unique ever.

@curtisjudd Год назад

👍

@MisterMayhem17 Год назад

440 now on b&h. Saving up for it ☝️

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@GeorgeGraves Год назад

Back in the day, I had no issues with 3 or more "DV" or "DVCAM" cameras recording for an hour, and still being in sync. Of course, most video editors only let you edit by whole frames, so your audio can be up to 1/2 a frame off. With NTSC, for example, being 1/60 of a second out(or less, 1/60 would be the max) on the audio seems fine.

@curtisjudd Год назад

👍

@calebgrundyson2688 Год назад

Awesome video!

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks Caleb.

@iacovos Год назад

Hi Curtis, I just bought 3 of these but I'm having trouble syncing the videos perfectly in Davinci. My clips are a few frames off from each other (usually around 7-8, sometimes less). Whilst recording, the TC-1s are all in Sync, set up exactly the same at 50frames, the same as the cameras and recording TC to the left channel. When syncing in Davinci by timecode they are a bit off as mentioned, but when syncing by audio they get perfectly synced which is weird. (I don't have scratch audio option turned on) Any advice?

@curtisjudd Год назад

I'd contact DEITY support and see what they have to say. We didn't run into this issue.

@ExoticMultimedia Год назад

I have same issue with 50 fps,not perfect sync

@iacovos Год назад

@@ExoticMultimedia I found a workaround in Davinci. Select clip properties and interpret clips at 25p. Update timecode from audio. Re-interpret clips to 50p and they should sync.

@terrygriffin5201 6 месяцев назад

Great review. One thing none of you even considered is using a dedicated DAW to mix the audio like Steinberg Cubase or Neundo. It does import what is called a broadcast wave file that embeds the metadata. So actually, you get more robust audio editing with effects that is on Hollywood level audio houses. Resolve has audio too but not on the level of Steinberg, which is owned by Yahama. Steinberg has been in the game for over 3 decades. Easy to sync withou buying those apps.

@curtisjudd 6 месяцев назад

Yes, DAWs are great. We all use them. But I don’t understand how that eliminates the need for timecode during production?

@automat8 Год назад

Thank you!

@curtisjudd Год назад

You're welcome!

@longwelsh Год назад

Great video.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks Ed.

@ScottJWaldron Год назад

Nice video! Glad to see more TC devices available. So far only tentacle sync has a recorder/wireless transmitter plus TC system? Hopefully Deity comes out with a nice 32-bit pocket recorder that can link up with these. On my non-existent youtuber budget I've been waiting to see if Tentacle sync will revise their Track E to do stereo recording before jumping into their system. Also not a fan on their minimalist design. The Zoom F2 looked interesting and has more direct control, but it doesn't have a system around it either.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Doesn't the BP-TRX from DEITY do all three?

@ScottJWaldron Год назад

@@curtisjudd Oh? I'll take a look. Thanks!

@TheSteveKinney 7 месяцев назад

do these require a constant bluetooth connection for timecode to work? or do they work more like the tentacle sync's where you sync once and doesn't require any sort of signal after that?

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

Both. If they lose connection, they keep on counting with their internal, high accuracy clocks.

@edclevel402 Год назад

New theme music slaps! :)

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@Nordbiene Год назад

Highly interesting video, thank You. Best regards from Germany, Kai the bee filmer ;)

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks Kai. Happy filming!

@Nordbiene Год назад

@@curtisjudd Thank You Curtis. :)

@mattkokkinn6719 Год назад

Really great product. I would hope to see battery replacement kits just like the ones Tentacle supplies for those of us with no local Deity support. Please can we chat to other mirrorless camera suppliers about building cameras that read timecode off the 3.5mm mic input just like the Black Magic cameras. This is becoming essential. Sony & Panasonic PLEASE!

@AllenCavedo Год назад

Totally agree with your second statement about TC on cameras. The BMPC cameras are one of very few low cost cameras that have a TC port.

@curtisjudd Год назад

I agree on both.

@JakeGuptill Год назад

Hey Curtis.. I love your videos! Always so informative. I have a request/suggestion as it relates to timecode and the TC-1’s. I recently purchased 4 of them, so I can do 3 camera + zoom F6 timecode sync. I have a project coming up at the end of December capturing a Christmas Eve service at a house of worship. They use Logic Pro to mix their audio for livestream. I’ve been trying to research an option for using a TC-1 with the Logic Pro computer (a mac) to be able to get timecode from the TC-1 into Logic Pro. Oofta.. what a rabbit trail that is! Seems like all the videos I can find either use logic as the master generator outputting strait to a camera or they use MTC (midi timecode) with a midi interface for external timecode. I’d love to see a video about the best way to work with Logic Pro (or DAW’s in general) and the external timecode generators like the TC-1 or Tentacle Sync. For now, my request to the house of worship is to get a stereo output from their logic main bus and record to my F6 externally with a TC-1 attached. But is that the best option??

@jonathankessler9853 Год назад

I’ve been looking into this same thing but for handling scoring sessions and syncing multiple ProTools rigs together. People use the Tentacles but I’ve found they’re spotty and the only other options I’ve found are crazy expensive

@ProCopyAustralia1 Год назад

Hopefully Deity will create an app for the sound track / syncing on other programmes for the Mirrorless Cam set up

@curtisjudd Год назад

That'd be great.

@nathanksimpson Год назад

Helpful career advice from Curtis Judd at 4:45... LOL

@curtisjudd Год назад

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@gugong Год назад

Thank you for reviewing this ! Good as always. Between Sm7b and icon pro Which mic would you recommend for podcasting, teaching, some time livestream in untreated home room. Or if any other suggestions. Thanks.

@curtisjudd Год назад

In an untreated room, probably the SM7B.

@CoolMusicToMyEars 8 месяцев назад

I worked on Pro GPS Frequency & Time references, now depends on the GPS reciever but they have time code output, even the cheap units were far better than 10-9 accuracy over 100 seconds

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

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@darrenorange2982 Год назад

Question for your MixPre-10, did you need to keep it connected there? I have a Zoom F6 and I was under the impression most audio recorders generally do have an accurate timecode generator that will stay in sync? What are your thoughts on this?

@curtisjudd Год назад

You don't HAVE to keep it connected as the MixPre has a TC generator inside. However, I chose to leave it connected as the master clock so that I could re-jam wirelessly if I needed to later.

@daletidy. 2 месяца назад

Deity recently released their own software called Sidus TC Sync that should do the same job as the Tentacle Sync one. Also if you were also wondering when using with the FX3 / FX30 the Tentacle Sync timecode cable "Tentacle Sync C24" apparently works with the Deity TC-1. So seems to me that all the benefits are now with Deity TC-1 compared to Tentacle

@curtisjudd 2 месяца назад

Except the post syncing software for Mac that comes with the Tentacles.

@DavidKfilmmaker Год назад

Hey Curtis. Not sure if this is a dumb question, if I have a tentacle sync and want to do a two camera setup, do I need to get another sync e or can you mix a deity tc with a sync e? Or can I use (get away with) only one?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, you’ll need another TC generator and the TC-1 will work since they both support SMPTE standards. But, things like wireless jam sync will not work.

@DavidMonostori Год назад

I hope they sell the cold shoe mount separately, because this mount is way better than the ones available for the Sync E.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Interesting idea.

@karlklabuster7216 Год назад

Curtis, txs for this (again) interesting video. Your assumption is lacking in bit in that way, that you are talking about consumer cameras with no or lacking timecode but you use an audio recorder with a timecode input. This usually isn't the case for consumer audio recorders (e.g. Tascam DR-44WL, Zoom H8, and others). Only a handful audio recorders are able to capture a timecode into it's metadata. So, my idea would be to use one channel (e.g. Tascam DR-44WL, 4 Channel recorder) for recording in a timecode (let's say from an iPhone using Timcode Generator App, via cable). Unfortunately, the recorders produces 1 stereo file for the built-in microphones. For the external microphones (from which 1 I am using to input the timecode from my iPhone) an extra file is produced. Now, importing this into daVinci Resolve Studio. daVinci does not allow you to convert an audio channel from one wav-file into the metadata of another wav-file (remember, there are two files generated). Conclusion, you definitely need to have a recorder with a dedicated timecode input capable of writing the timecode into the metadata of the recorded file. Simply saying, we "abuse" one channel for storing the timecode is not precise enough for most consumer recorders. Question: given such a situation as described above. Have you ever tried to merge such files in an external SW (e.g. Tentacle or similar)? What about other cut SW such as Adobe or Final cut?

@curtisjudd Год назад

*some consumer audio recorders record tracks to separate files. You are right, those recorders make the timecode workflow harder. You could potentially line up all of the tracks for a take in a DAW app and export as a poly wav file, that that eliminates so much of the convenience of the timecode workflow. But there are more and more consumer and prosumer recorders which record poly wave files where the timecode workflow can work, it is mainly the handy or handheld style recorders where it doesn’t.

@karlklabuster7216 Год назад

@@curtisjudd Curtis, txs for picking up my comment. "You could potentially line up all of the tracks for a take in a DAW app and export as a poly wav file, that that eliminates so much of the convenience of the timecode workflow." - sounds like a feasable approach. Depends on how many clips (an audios) your video has. Anyway, will digg into it. Txs again!

@valerioruoti93 Год назад

Hello everybody! Just wanna share a couple of thoughts about, cos I also own a Dr44 wl! If you "sacrifice" the built in microphones, and you rec format as stereo, maybe the software, will read it as if was a camera stereo file? Also the iPhone timecode generator, sends a line signal level? So possible that you having mic input, the timecode signal could be destroyed for clipping? Or the balanced inputs may create phase cancelation from the iPhone? The very last assumption, be careful connecting your phone on an input sending +48V! Have a nice day!

@showshow8804 Год назад

The 50 & 60 fps selection is the same for NTSC and PAL in a way that if you shoot 50fps, set the timecode at 25fps and if you shoot at 60fps, set the timecode at 30fps. it should work just fine

@curtisjudd Год назад

Should be pretty close.

@tringuyen8521 Год назад

First of all, thanks for creating these videos. I've learned a lot from them and enjoyed the structure of your presentation. Currently, I am recording my music videos using 3 Lumix S5s, in my home studio. The audio is fed from a digital mixer. I sync the videos in Resolve using the audio. Everything is working fine. I am thinking about recording my choir performances. It would be difficult to run long audio cable to the cameras due to the distance from the church mixer. I am thinking about using some timecode devices (Deity tc1 or Tentacle Sync e), but still couldn't figure out how I can get the audio to sync up with the videos. Hope you have some insight on this! Thanks.

@curtisjudd Год назад

What will you use to record the audio of the choir? I’ve used the post sync method before for concerts and it works fine.

@tringuyen8521 Год назад

@@curtisjudd Right now I'm just recording audio directly onto a USB thumb drive. No video for the choir yet

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@tringuyen8521 Oh, ok. I guess get the mixer closer to the choir? Or use a field recorder?

@Ed-davies Год назад

Great review I was looking at a set of these. I currently have the tentacle sync mk1 but I have had issues with the jack on them cable being pulled out on them. How would you rate these against the tentacle sync devices?

@curtisjudd Год назад

I like that these have a screen and controls on the device so you don't HAVE to use the app, but you also have the option of using the app. Also like the locking 3.5mm port.

@Trevellian Год назад

Thanks for another great review. To clarify, if syncing a camera to a device like a MixPre 6 that has timecode support, would a TC-1 be needed for both the camera and the MixPre, or would a single TC-1 for the camera be enough?

@MaxKosenko Год назад

Both

@curtisjudd Год назад

A single TC-1 for the camera would be enough if you're ok with syncing them via cable. However, if you want the ability to re-jam wirelessly you'll need two TC-1s and keep one of them connected to the MixPre.

@Philipe0849 Год назад

Question.. When you turn the video off on your DSLR camera between takes. Do you have to turn your audio recorder to keep it in sync? If yes, how do you turn the off at the same time to keep them in sync?

@curtisjudd Год назад

No, you do not have to stop recording at the same exact time, sync will still work. However, I would recommending stopping your audio recording every time the camera recording is stopped so that you have the same number of recordings on your camera as your audio recorder. That'll generally make things a little easier to keep organized.

@hectorbenitez2163 Год назад

Hey Curtis, as always, great video. I have a question, when not using timecode, around how long would it take for audio video to get out of sync? I know it may depend on many factors, but is there an estimated time?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Timecode does not prevent drift, it only syncs at the start of the clips. As for drift, it depends on the camera, but most non-cinema cameras experience a few frames of drift at an hour of recording.

@dwoodog 2 месяца назад

Great explanation on time code. Little confused on one part, the frame rate. I thought you could just set the TC-1 to 25, or 30 frames if your camera is shooting in 50FPS, or 60? Just use a number on the TC-1 that divides evenly in to your cameras frame rate your shooting at?

@curtisjudd 2 месяца назад

Yes, but that will not sync quite as precisely. Probably good enough.

@Frimpeezzy 3 месяца назад

Hello I have a question. So if I’m using zoom h4n pro to record audio from dj board. Do I need to put 1 deity tc1 on the zoom as well or just my mirrorless cameras ?

@curtisjudd 3 месяца назад

Yes, you need one on the zoom, too.

@JasonToddRoberts Год назад

I usually start and stop my B cam to save space when I’m shooting. Is there an easy way to sync all clips or do I need to make sinc bins for all b roll clips to edit?

@curtisjudd Год назад

I’d stop both cameras between takes. But if you keep the A cam running g the whole time, you’ll need to figure how to sync in whichever NLE video editing app you use.

@alzibaba Год назад

Great review, thanks Curtis, and very timely too as I was on the verge of getting some Tentacle Syncs. I much prefer not having to use an app if I can, so these look great. Do you know if it would be easy to use these alongside the BP-TRX? I'm guessing so, but it'd be great to know if you've tried this. One thought about the screens and flashing lights: in some darker scenes, tally lights can occasionally interfere with the image, particularly if a subject is wearing glasses, so I wonder if you'd have to be careful in how you orient the TC-1s to avoid this. I've never seen these units in the flesh, so maybe it's a non-issue, but I know in some scenes I've had to turn off the front tally light on my E2-F6.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Probably best to tuck it on your rig where it won’t reflect in glasses or eyes.

@alzibaba Год назад

@@curtisjudd thanks very much.

@AllenCavedo Год назад

Actually the Arri Alexa has a built-in Ambient Recording TC generator that keeps accurate TC over 24 hours so it will not drift if the external TC generator is removed. However, I leave a TC generator attached to maintain TC through camera battery and frame rate changes.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks for the clarification, Allen. Interesting that they went to the trouble of adding a TC generator, but not a power source to make it through battery changes.

@AllenCavedo Год назад

@@curtisjudd I started to say the Alexa will get through a battery change and not lose TC but I couldn’t remember if they do or not. I suspect they do but not sure.

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@AllenCavedo it would make sense that Ambient would include a rechargeable battery in there. Let us know if you happen to confirm in the future. 🙏

@TheFalconking Год назад

Hello Curtis, cool video ! a couple of questions thou... can I add more units (say a second 3 piece kit) and sync them all at once using the app ? second, will this units pair up or sync with the zoom f2 BT portable recorders ? this would be super awesome for my workflow ! thanks mate !

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, can add an additional kit. 2, no, not compatible with the F2, unfortunately.

@vividmotion66 11 месяцев назад

Great review, as usual 👍🏻 Since you‘ve testet them both… would you pick the tentacle sync E over the deity ?

@curtisjudd 11 месяцев назад

Yes.

@ttbirds1082 Год назад

Noob question - If the TC Gen is connected to Mic In on a mirrorless camera (e.g. Panasonic G9), does this mean that an external microphone can no longer be used with the mirrorless camera?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Correct.

@richardkidd Год назад

Thanks for the in depth video. Are the TC 1s only compatible with DaVinci Resolve when it comes to editing software?

@curtisjudd Год назад

No, these are SMPTE timecode boxes. If you plug them into a camera or audio recorder with timecode inputs, any of the pro editing apps will recognize the timecode. If you record timecode to a camera’s or audio recorder’s audio input, then you’ll first need to convert that audio to timecode. Resolve, Avid Media Composer, and Tentacle Sync Studio are the three apps I’m aware of that can do this conversion.

@rickymcc9072 Год назад

Hi Curtis, thanks for a very helpful video. One query, after jamming a TC-1 to a Sound Devices MixPre6ii can I reliably remove the TC-1 box and use on an additional camera? Thus potentially using a MixPre6ii as part of a fully TC shoot such that a 3 unit TC-1 kit can support 3 other cameras or separate sound recorders (eg small pocket Zoom, obviating need for radio sound transmission for that lav mike)? I'm fairly new to this and had been using waveform sync ok via DaVinci, but have had occasional issues where some audio files won't sync properly (probably my error). I have a Sound Devices MixPre6ii but never used TC previously. I do find it tricky editing with multiple short takes for dialogue or re-takes (lots of files to sort and sequence). In future I'd like to be able to shoot multi cam too for greater edit variety of shots TC seems the smarterway to go. I had been undecided about Tentacle Sync vs Deity, but your confidence in Deity helped tip me over the edge as I'm also a new DaVinci convert. So, anyway I just ordered a Deity TC-1 kit. Hopefully after practice I'll find TC a quicker better solution that will make sequence managing clips easier. Thanks again - you remain my 'go to' source of advice for pretty much all things audio.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, the MixPre-6 II has an onboard timecode generator of its own so once jammed, it should be good for a production day.

@Soundguydan 8 месяцев назад

Charging question: You mentioned keeping them attached the the cameras for the entire shoot. What’s the process for after Day 2 and it’s time to charge the boxes? Thanks.

@curtisjudd 8 месяцев назад

Sorry, I meant for the entire day. Then at the end of the day, you collect them all and get them charged back up. Then set them all back up for day 2 and etc.

@Rafotofilmsproductions Год назад

I have a question when you connect the deity to the camera do you still have scratch audio recorded?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, timecode is recorded on the left channel, scratch audio on the right channel.

@tatuparssinen Год назад

Thanks again and yet another (tricky?) question from tp :) My usecase is capturing live concerts with dslr multicam setup. I get easily 10+ frames drift in the end of the 1+ hour long videoclips from different cameras. I'm afraid even if I got something like Deity or Tentacle and embedded the timecode on the audiotracks I still could not avoid the drift as the timecode on audiotrack does nothing about cameras' clock drift. Davinchi/Tentacle app would only sync the clips from the start according to timecode but the issue of drift would still occur in the end of long clips if I'm not mistaken? If this is the case I wonder if there's a proven workaround? Maybe by utilising the audio timecode converted with software and then cutting the long clips in pieces song by song so each song (say 3 to 10 minutes) would have a synced start and not too much drift in the shorter timeframe. Just thinking aloud...

@curtisjudd Год назад

Correct, timecode does NOT solve drift issues on long takes like this. Wordclock does, but that’s not possible with most consumer/prosumer cameras. Probably best to slice up the long takes and resync each.

@mannytheamateur324 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your great video tutorials. Is it possible to sync the ultrasync blue with the deity tc-1? Thank you in advance!!!

@curtisjudd 10 месяцев назад

Via cable, yes, but not wirelessly.

@birdsofray Год назад

Hi Curtis, quick question, I just got the TC-1s but I’m having a hard time trying to connect to the Ninja V atomx sync module. Have you tried this combo?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Hi Birds of Ray, I don't have an ATOM X module on hand to test it, but it'll need to be jammed via cable.

@birdsofray Год назад

@@curtisjudd I’m starting to think they are not compatible. The Atomx via bluetooth gets along with the sync blue and the F6. You can change the RF channel on all those. The TC-1s have no channels to change, only groups unfortunately. Thanks for the reply!

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@birdsofray Correct, they are not wirelessly compatible. There is, unfortunately, not yet an industry wireless timecode communication standard.

@birdsofray Год назад

@@curtisjudd Good to know. Thanks again!

@ilcontezio01 Год назад

Hi Chris, thanks for the video. Thinkinf getting these c generators. I have two questions: 1) is it possible to set the tc to the time of day for bettermreference innpost? 2) does c also keep track of the date when syncing - say shoo over three days, will the tc sync work?

@curtisjudd Год назад

1) yes 2) no, SMPTE timecode does not include date. But you could use the uu bits to indicate each day.

@tomdchi12 Год назад

With a device like the MixPre II series, they have their own timecode generator. Would you expect it to be workable to jam a device like the TC-1 from the MixPre II signal, then disconnect it and plug it into a camera to have timecode on the audio recorded on the MixPre II and that video from the camera with the TC-1 that match?

@AllenCavedo Год назад

Yes you can do that. The MixPre II has an accurate TC clock that does not drift 1 frame in 24 hours, and it holds accurate TC even when turned off for 2 (maybe 4) hours.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, the only thing you give up by not keeping the TC-1 attached to the MixPre is the ability to rename wirelessly.

@stevenkralovec Год назад

Random question, but do you think sound devices might come out with a mix pre series iii at some point in the near future?

@curtisjudd Год назад

I doubt it, but I don't have any inside information to know either way.

@Zack-Hates-Youtube 3 месяца назад

Hey Curtis, I'm about to purchase 6 of these for my multicam recording sessions. If my audio recorder or interface doesn't have a timecode input would I just plug it into an extra input and convert it in post to TC like you did for the cameras?

@curtisjudd 3 месяца назад

Yes

@FFHavoK Год назад

I know cameras can easily get out of sync if you jam them, so you want to keep the TC generator attached. What about field recorders (in my case the Zoom F6 or F8n Pro)? Are they accurate enough to jam once during a session and get good sync in post?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Turns out both of those have in-built TCXO (temperature compensated crystal oscillators) or, in other words, they have a time code generator built-in. So yes, they are accurate enough. But, if you want to be able to wirelessly jam sync, you'll also want another TC-1 attached to your audio mixer. Not a requirement, but a matter of convenience.

@lawnjustice5742 Год назад

I was going to ask the same question I have the mixpre 10ii if I buy the bundle and are shooting three cameras can the TC-1 take the time code from my mixpre and then connect to the camera and stay accurate

@VadimKupriyanov Год назад

Thanks a lot for review! Is TC-1 compatible with Zoom F2/F3/F6 via bluetooth? And what is your choice if compare TC-1 and Blue?

@curtisjudd Год назад

No, not that I’m aware of unless they just added that capability in the last couple of months.

@wpkambiancesounds 10 месяцев назад

Great review Curtis. I want to try timecode, my question is where do I use the master timecode generator? In the audio recorder or the camera? I know this video is kind of old but I hope you could answer. Thank you in advance.

@curtisjudd 10 месяцев назад

Which you choose as master doesn’t usually matter since these can rejam wirelessly.

@wpkambiancesounds 10 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd Thanks again. Good to hear from you..

@JohnnyMotel99 Год назад

Nice looking product, couple of thoughts...could one use DVR to put the audio TC into metadata and export that out ready for FCPX etc? That's if DVR free version supports audio TC (which it probably doesn't!) Second thought, if the unit puts TC onto one side of the stereo track, it might be possible with the right cable to use a hot shoe mono mic on the other channel. On the price of TC modules, I always understood that they were expensive because of Ambient patents, but maybe these units get around that or not.

@curtisjudd Год назад

DVR? Perhaps there are patents involved as well. Nevertheless, TCXOs are a bit more expensive to engineer and maunfacture or source and integrate than typical clocks.

@JohnnyMotel99 Год назад

@@curtisjudd DaVinciResolve=DVR

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@JohnnyMotel99 Ah, yes, one could do that. Sort of a pain, but yes, possible.

@ulrichmors574 10 месяцев назад

Hey Curtis, not sure if "Auto JAM" is what I expect: I want to run a camera REC RUN (TC starts when recording) and Auto Sync all Slave devices (TC via RF, units starts to take and output the TC for AUTORECORD in a recorder). Does it work properly via RF? (not BT)

@curtisjudd 10 месяцев назад

Eat to contact DEITY support. Best wishes!

@MSMImage Год назад

Does Deity also sell dedicated lapel wireless microphones that can be synced with this? For an example, Tentacle Sync has their time code generator device and then they also sell a pocket recorder as well separately. Basically to mic people up at a wedding and so on.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, the BP-TRX I believe.

@PhilippHampl Год назад

Great video as allways ! I wonder if the scratch audio that is recorded with the mic from the tc generator. Is it usable- or does it record the tc sound that is recorded in the other channel? With the tentacle syncs this happens. Which really is a reason not to buy these as you loose in a worst case scenario.

@PhilippHampl Год назад

I just talked to tentacle- great support! My tentacle sync was set to line, that is why it rercorded the tc-sound on track 2 too! Set it to mic or leave the settings on auto! So the worst case scenario may come!

@curtisjudd Год назад

Glad to hear, thanks for sharing!

@raredreamfootage Год назад

13:42 - Disclaimer for non-Davinci Resolve users! An extra cost is needed to use audio embedded timecode from cameras that don't accept TC-IN!

@curtisjudd Год назад

Thanks.

@Chantinshun Год назад

have you try using the tc1 together with deity d4 duo/ d4 mini (both have a 3.5mm input on the mic) want to know if it is possible to get one channel for timecode and the other one for an on camera microphone

@curtisjudd Год назад

I don't have a D4 on hand to try, but I'm sure DEITY support could confirm for you.

@rolfetessem2254 Год назад

Great video, and comprehensive as always. Do you know if I can feed a TC-1 to the H4n external mic input using 4 channel mode and, using two lavaliers on the XLR inputs, have the whole thing in sync? In theory it seems as though this will work but I can't find any reference online to this type of configuration with the H4n or H4n Pro.

@curtisjudd Год назад

It should work.

@rolfetessem2254 Год назад

@@curtisjudd 👌

@rolfetessem2254 Год назад

@@curtisjudd I can confirm it does work -- however, I don't see the option to convert TC on the audio track in the free version of DaVinci Resolve. Is that feature only available in the paid version?

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@rolfetessem2254 Just confirmed here on the free version that the option to convert from audio to file timecode is available.

@teacherofteachers1239 Год назад

If you happen to know, Curtis, can the Deity TC-1 sync the Tentacle Track E recorder in the same way (more or less) that the Tentacle Sync E does? - Dave

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, they both speak SMPTE timecode and can jam sync to each other via cable (though not wirelessly)

@antanderin Год назад

Thank you for this great overview. While I'd prefer to use the TC-1 as a TC input for all my devices, I'd lose pre-record function on my F8n if I use external TC. Would it make sense to use the F8n TC out into the TC-1 and call that one the master, then sync to the other TC-1's on my cameras? If so, what are the sync ramifications, ie: will I have to sync each box manually to the master? Or would there still be one way to use the Sidus app in this scenario? Thx

@curtisjudd Год назад

Hi Anthony, are you certain that you lose pre-record capability when using an external timecode generator via the timecode in port? I thought it was when you use high sample rates like 192kHz.

@antanderin Год назад

When pre record is available, it is limited to only 1 sec when recording at 192 kHz. But per the manual (p.35) it is indeed disabled when TC is set to Int Rec Run, Ext or Ext Auto Record.

@anlagrdr5229 Год назад

Great review👍 Which one is better for price and functionality Tentacle sync e or deity tc1?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Toss up. I address this in the summary at the beginning. If you are going to record to audio inputs on your cameras and you do not use Davinci Resolve or Avid Media Composer, then I'd choose the Tentacle Sync E. If you are going to use cameras with dedicated timecode inputs or you will use Davinci Resolve for post, then I'd go with the TC1.

@skakdosmer Год назад

I don't plan to use timecode in any near future, but just out of curiosity: If you prefer to work in Adobe Premiere Pro, would it be possible to first use the free version of Davinci to convert the timecode and then import the video to Premiere Pro, or would that create some trouble?

@curtisjudd Год назад

One could do that, yes.

@carloalcos Год назад

@@curtisjudd Would this mean having to export from Resolve (so encoding the file again) or can it somehow be saved to the original file?

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@carloalcos Carlo, first some context. Which cameras will you be using and do they have dedicated timecode inputs? If so, there is no need for conversion. If the camera(s) you plan to use do NOT have dedicated timecode inputs you will record to the audio input. Then you will need to convert that audio timecode to metadata timecode. You can use resolve to do that - which would be a pain because you would have to export from Resolve after syncing. A better approach would be to use an app like the Tentacle Sync Studio app for Mac or else you're not probably going to save a lot of time - which is the main idea with timecode.

@carloalcos Год назад

@@curtisjudd I imagine I could be doing sound work for any number of different cameras, with and without dedicated tc. But you answered my question, you'd have to export out of resolve... getting the tentacle app would be well worth it. Thanks!

@VivaMediaInc Год назад

So you can convert audio TC to meta data TC in resolve, export, and import into Premiere? Or do you you have to do your entire edit in Resolve?

@curtisjudd Год назад

You could do that, just a bit of extra workflow. If you’re on a Mac, consider the Tentacle Studio app.

@VivaMediaInc Год назад

@@curtisjudd We actually just found out that Sony makes a TC adapter for the multiport on the FX3 so we're just going to order some of those haha

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@VivaMediaInc good idea 👍

@felipeandjess 7 месяцев назад

Does the TC-1 have a mic input if I wanted to record higher quality scratch audio in the other channel? Or can i use a audio splitter for mirrorless and tc-1 in one input and mic in other?

@curtisjudd 7 месяцев назад

No mic input. A splitter should work in theory but I haven’t tried it.

@adedolapoolajide945 Год назад

Hi Curtis, great insight as always. Please I have a question: If you sync the files in DaVinci and push out to Adobe premiere will the embedded timecode on the synced sequence remain intact?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, depending on how you "push out to Adobe premiere". If you export to a file, certainly. Not sure how to just export a timeline that is compatible between the two.

@adedolapoolajide945 Год назад

@@curtisjudd export the an XML file from DaVinci

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@adedolapoolajide945 if they’re compatible, that’s even easier, yes 👍

@brandondavismedia3594 Год назад

@@adedolapoolajide945 Did this work for you?

@SeanColey Год назад

What's the proper way to attach and detach the BNC cable? I often rent an R5C and when I push the cable in, it just falls out so I have to wrap the cable around the Tentacle Sync on the hot shoe until there's no slack.

@curtisjudd Год назад

push it on the connector and then twist to the right. It locks.

@remektekmedia6641 Год назад

It sucks that the triple kit only has ONE of each of the cables! Duh. I've 2x Tentacle Sync E devices plus 1 of the original Tentacles and was thinking of getting a twin pack of the Sync E's. Now I don't know which way to go...

@curtisjudd Год назад

Good point.

@benmcphee4401 11 месяцев назад

Is it possible to use this in combination with a Track E (for recording to a Lav, not just timecode), and another recorder with the ability to generate timecode? Or do you need to stick to one brand?

@curtisjudd 11 месяцев назад

You can jam devices from different brands via cable, but their wireless jamming is not compatible.

@valerioruoti93 Год назад

Hi Curtis, maybe you've already told this, but I cannot find it clearly... The tc1 via Bluetooth can Pair with a f3 zoom using the bta-1 adapter? Thanks so much!

@curtisjudd Год назад

No, not that I'm aware. DEITY support should be able to confirm.

@ChrisFlores22 Год назад

Can this unit work with the zoom f3? I’m wanting to run timecode with the f3, S1H & BS1H. Any recommendations for gear besides the ultra sync blue lol unless you do recommend it!

@curtisjudd Год назад

No, as far as I’m aware, only the ultrasync blue works with the F3 unless you use one of the F3’s audio inputs to record audio timecode.

@ChrisFlores22 Год назад

@@curtisjudd do you recommend that setup with the ultra sync or do you like something else?

@kp-ti1xv Год назад

I am new to timecode so please exuse if that's a dumb question but could I buy one unit of the TC-1, use it to set the timecode on my Zoom F4 and after that plug it into my camera and have the F4 and my camera synced?

@curtisjudd Год назад

Yes, that will work. 👍

@kp-ti1xv Год назад

@@curtisjudd Thanks for the quick response and for your content in general. Your channel has been really helpful for me to get to know the audio side of filmmaking better

@curtisjudd Год назад

@@kp-ti1xv 🙏 Thanks k p.

@benjaminstatler2226 9 месяцев назад

How do you think these will work with the new Rode Wireless Pros? Also if I have a Zoom F6 would I still need one for the recorder even though it has its own time code and accepts jamming?

@curtisjudd 9 месяцев назад

The TC-1 should accept timecode from the Witeless PRO receiver. Same with the F6.

@corazoninmaculado77 Месяц назад

Do I need one time code for each of my cameras and Lavalier mic recorders???

@curtisjudd Месяц назад

Yes

@bcdisabilitycaucus8739 Год назад

can you sync a iphone to time code ? the iphone has been a nice back up .. so it would be great if i could use video from it.

@curtisjudd Год назад

Not with this. But with some apps, the ATOMOS Ultrasync Blue does, last I checked.

@bcdisabilitycaucus8739 Год назад

@@curtisjudd thank you

@eliucornielle5290 Год назад

I hope you read this, Curtis! Do you have any idea how to use this with a Tascam X6 recorder? I am shooting with two canon c70's and recording main audio on the X6. I am wondering how to sync it to the 2 canon c70 cameras. Thank you so much for you valuable videos. I always support and buy through your links when possible.

@curtisjudd Год назад

You'd have to record the audio timecode from one of the TC-1a into one of the inputs on the x6, then use Resolve in post to convert the audio to meta data timecode.

@eliucornielle5290 Год назад

@@curtisjudd This helps. I am going to research. My other option is to spend a little more and get a recorder with a timecode port. I want to record 32 bit float. Willing to invest a little more for ease of workflow. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RESPONDING. I APPRECIATE YOU AND ALL THE VALUE YOU PROVIDE!

@moneyboys2010 10 месяцев назад

Great video Curtis. Can we time sync these with Tentacle units ?

@curtisjudd 10 месяцев назад

Via cable, yes, but not wirelessly.

@moneyboys2010 10 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd completely understood. I have 3 Track E’s, an Instamic, Zoom F6 and 4 Sync E’s but picking up an additional shooter with 3 more Cameras Bodies. Of course, I’m looking at $400 for 2 more Sync E’s or $549 for 3 TC-1’s so price wise it makes sense, just was wondering if there was an advantage to staying in the same ecosystem with more Tentacles 🐙 for this such application since I would be completely green to Deity.

@curtisjudd 10 месяцев назад

@@moneyboys2010 I'd stick with Tentacles so you can wirelessly jam, unless there's something about the Tentacles that isn't working for you.

@moneyboys2010 10 месяцев назад

@@curtisjudd Completely agree after giving it a little more thought. Between the Tentacle Body Packs, Syncs and the Instamic all readily accessible on one app that will keep life easy. Curtis, sincerely appreciate you for all you do to get these videos out. I will always support you Brother.

@deskwerks 11 месяцев назад

Is there another app similar (competing) to the Tentacle app, if I don't use Davinci? Or, can I use Davinci for the 'timecode-to-metadata' conversion and 'transport' the results somehow to Premiere?

@curtisjudd 11 месяцев назад

I’m not familiar with other apps, unfortunately.