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Deja Vu? No Ability=No Play Ball??|Breakdown CFB25 vs M24 

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@no-yj2cf
@no-yj2cf Месяц назад
Corner's turning their back to the receiver is disgusting
@Debonair.Fella85
@Debonair.Fella85 Месяц назад
Word up, Madden 06 animations are nasty work🤮🤮🤮
@JonathanJackson-fj3ok
@JonathanJackson-fj3ok Месяц назад
Isn’t it called a speed turn?
@2024ty
@2024ty Месяц назад
You can tell the animation for the corner kicked in once the QB started his throwing motion
@malachirobinson8631
@malachirobinson8631 Месяц назад
It happens in real life too🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️
@gamesh0w4life69
@gamesh0w4life69 Месяц назад
​​@@malachirobinson8631show us a clip eat bot?
@PmcKing12
@PmcKing12 Месяц назад
As a DB you never turn your back to the line of scrimmage. Back peddled as long as possible. I completely agree with you bro
@malachirobinson8631
@malachirobinson8631 Месяц назад
Doesn’t matter because it happens in real life. If you actually look at it the corner seen the cut outside and chose to flip all the way around and jumped the route it happens🤷🏾‍♂️
@gamesh0w4life69
@gamesh0w4life69 Месяц назад
​@@malachirobinson8631no it doesnt bc if number 2 was playing a corner rout the coaches would be chewing the db for going in to early for the flat.
@gamesh0w4life69
@gamesh0w4life69 Месяц назад
@AnakinSkywalker_ChosenOne ok ea bot show me a clip of a cb turning his back away from to the qb and a wr running an 7-8 outroute. You wont you know why bc no coach teaches a cb to do that when it comes to an outroute. You are trying so hard .. 😅😅🤣🤣 send a message to the best cbs in the league and they will tell you they will never turn there body like that unless the player goes 10 to 15 yards... you are really trying hard to defend this ea bot.. go make ur game better.
@workbirdygaming
@workbirdygaming Месяц назад
Your a 100% right thats why I'm against abilities because they turn players in to super players. And if you don't have abilities your sol
@scb083
@scb083 Месяц назад
I agree only games that prove abilities are not over the top is madden 08 n all pro 2k8 they both numbers n abilities
@gamerd8709
@gamerd8709 Месяц назад
my friend, there are SUPER players in college football. have you watched any reggie bush games or vince young ? 😂😂
@IceCubE4425
@IceCubE4425 Месяц назад
@@scb083 I'm hoping it isnt over the top, because I use a non ability QBs and Corner on some of my runs on 2k8 and when they make big plays it resonates with you more because they're not stars but put up impressive performances. hoping its like that in the Single player and we find those gem players even great 2 star recruits.
@scb083
@scb083 Месяц назад
@@IceCubE4425 there some generics in all pro that play star players I remember when I played that game everyday I had a group of friends we would tell eachother what generics was good or bad
@gamerd8709
@gamerd8709 Месяц назад
@@IceCubE4425that would be cool
@rgk99
@rgk99 Месяц назад
2:44 it’s so unnatural and unrealistic how the DB stop on a dime 360 turnaround and are in perfect position to intercept or bat ball away. those places frustrate me more than anything within the game that I hope are not as persistent in CF 25
@NoMorePodDes
@NoMorePodDes Месяц назад
Idk if there’s a football game that has been able to properly represent how defenders backpedal, shuffle, explode. It’d be cool if the ratings just spoke to their rng of how often they’ll play sound technique. So I don’t mind a db turning his back if he has a -75 coverage rating and bails early OR he has 85+ coverage and feints a bail to bait the qb. The rare animations/buffs should be restricted to the abilities, but the ability to play a technique should be there for anybody based on playcall, matchup, points of emphasis OR the user doing the right thing. Like in the show, you can still hit a perfect perfect home run with a guy with 40 hitting but it’s a pinhole window. In M21 or 22, Clint Oldenburg said that the animations are coded to the abilities, not the ratings. That’s what sucks for the Maddens but I genuinely appreciate the direction for CFB since they’re tiered and there’s no limit to how many of them can be in the game.
@davidwilliams6392
@davidwilliams6392 Месяц назад
Dawg who gives af lmaooo. Whether he's turning or not, hes still guarding how he should be. You mfs want every tiny detail to be exactly real life and you'll never get that
@Kinglewy857
@Kinglewy857 Месяц назад
bruh yall so simple minded these aspects were better in games 10-15 years old. keep accepting bare minimum and that what we’ll get
@Itz_Dee_
@Itz_Dee_ Месяц назад
@@Kinglewy857 go play any game from 10-15 years ago, analyze it in this way and come back and say that again because you are horrendously wrong and are just speaking nonsense. Probably too young to have ever played them
@Kinglewy857
@Kinglewy857 Месяц назад
@@Itz_Dee_ i’m old enough to have played the last 2k and the last ncaa football games. i also have an in depth knowledge of the sport enough to see what the causal(you) is missing.
@mathiasmanish3093
@mathiasmanish3093 Месяц назад
I totally agree fam see this is why i said we cant take anybody word for nothing until we as the consumers play it for ourselves
@LaQuanBland-tc9ui
@LaQuanBland-tc9ui Месяц назад
I agree that’s why abilities are stupid they make the game less Authentic Shouldn’t need abilities to do something that should be second nature to you especially as a pro athlete or a division one athlete
@exspensivespeech588
@exspensivespeech588 Месяц назад
Apf 2k8 was not like that though
@oomshaka6683
@oomshaka6683 Месяц назад
Then just turn them off... The abilities just help make elite players feel more elite than others
@crimsonchin8916
@crimsonchin8916 Месяц назад
I mean abilities aren’t really stupid. How they’re used is. APF 2k8 had abilities which were fun and truly made the guys feel unique as players.
@jealousbeanbag5636
@jealousbeanbag5636 Месяц назад
Yeah you make a good point, the only ways these abilities work well is if they are tuned near perfectly, which I have 0 trust for ea to do
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
You don't know this dev team...
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
EA is a company, not a dev team as well.
@zyeirsilas7044
@zyeirsilas7044 Месяц назад
You are right about certain things, but not everything but the thing I got most about this is how it would suck if a player without an ability can’t do certain things that a player with an ability can when it comes to basic fundamentals
@chandlerhumphrey9578
@chandlerhumphrey9578 Месяц назад
Honestly the coverage in the Michigan clip made a lot more sense for it to be something like 4 read. Just from looking at it that’s what makes the most sense. It’s a game so I’m most likely wrong and odds are that kind of coverage isn’t even in the game but in the clip the db looks like he’s playing the vertical and he’s outside leverage but as soon as the receiver breaks on the out the db drops straight into the flat to defend the out. If they add the coverage into the game it would be amazing because to be quite honest cover 2 is not that great of a coverage at least for me personally. It gives up a lot of yards deep and it’s bad against the run. Cover 4 read is just a superior version of cover 2 in every way.
@chandlerhumphrey9578
@chandlerhumphrey9578 Месяц назад
The only thing that makes me thing it’s 4 read is because the db turned his hips when he’s playing the flat which would make no sense to do if it was cover 2
@Soopology
@Soopology Месяц назад
I think the clips are different - Will Johnson is playing outside zone (so thats basically his flat zone to play), while Slay is starting inside in his zone. But I do understand your concern nevertheless. Just seems like you're making content to ONLY pre-complain lol. Like alright bruh.
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
That's a extremely dismissive thing to comment. I just can't get with being critical about something being called "complaining" Whether you agree or disagree, I just can't get with it being called THAT, just because everyone's overtly positive and excited that CFB is coming out. "Pre complaining" lol.
@WarWolfeX
@WarWolfeX Месяц назад
So a couple of things I want you guys to consider. One thing its a video game and it’s still going to play like a video game. Meaning movements and AI will never be perfect. The other thing is the abilities in this game are just basically badges that reflect stats that a player has already. Meaning if there’s a badge called speedster (just an example) it’s because the player has something like 95-99 speed. These aren’t X factors they just reflect player archetypes. The other thing is in this video that’s just a bad throw that I hope you wouldn’t make in the game. The corner is sitting right there on that route I would look elsewhere to throw personally. I get the concern but let’s just wait and see before we bury the game.
@gabenoguez329
@gabenoguez329 Месяц назад
bruh yes its a game!but a video game from 2004 maybe with development in the year of 2003 aka 2k5 plays better than any football game in the current and previous generation
@b02106
@b02106 Месяц назад
I do expect this game to be good but not a masterpiece like others are saying. Like what I mean is this game will be way better than any Madden made since Frostbite became the engine but not to a masterpiece sports game level it will be a good game but not great. I am glad you however want this game to be good and not another RyanMoody channel because those seem to be everywhere now LOL. You and Ryan are like polar opposites you want this game to be good and RyanMoody I think just doesn't want this game to be good at all.
@Rome_77
@Rome_77 Месяц назад
Abilities suck and I noticed the same thing with Madden. Basically, the gameplay animations were sub-par all around, but if you had a player with special abilities then you would have corrected gameplay nice-looking animations available to you. Why should a running back need some unlocked token to have a smooth nice-looking juke? Just dumb
@crimsonchin8916
@crimsonchin8916 Месяц назад
From what I’ve seen the abilities are coded directly to attributes. Like 50\50 on Travis Hunter was directly coded to his deep route run stat based off the tier he gets. So I think abilities and tiers are meant to more show how the attributes will make these players gain specific abilities that make them better in specific areas.
@donp6264
@donp6264 Месяц назад
Bro yall need to learn ball lol. he’s in cover 2, he open up to cover him 5-10 yrds then he seen him breaking down to the outside so he flip his hips in jumped the route. Yes it wasn’t the best transition but he played it like a aggressive top CB would in that coverage
@gamesh0w4life69
@gamesh0w4life69 Месяц назад
Is cover 9. His objective is cloud to the flat, the ball is spotted to the right hashmarks meaning his only playing from the outside numbers to out of bounce.. the wr is running a 7-8 yards out route. The cb is 6-7 yard off meaning he only needs to play 2-3 yards. No need to turn your back.
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
​@@gamesh0w4life69It's pretty hard to code it so he doesn't turn his back in a certain way in a certain situation. It is not the most realistic way to turn, but it essentially is basically the same as if he turned the other way. I think it's the way the running was coded that affects this.
@gamesh0w4life69
@gamesh0w4life69 Месяц назад
@@ababoononyoutube9921 hard to code ??? Really thats is the excuse?? after lets say 3 generations of console since 2011 and they still cant fix that.
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
@@gamesh0w4life69 they code with an engine, not a console.
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
@@gamesh0w4life69 Plus, if it ain't hard then where's yo football game at cuddo I would love to play it
@seanwells18
@seanwells18 Месяц назад
There nothing different with abilities in this game just the same as Madden
@davidwilliams6392
@davidwilliams6392 Месяц назад
well this is just blatantly incorrect
@kenstonm1346
@kenstonm1346 Месяц назад
Ngl I played corner and in cover 2 like that I knew when to turn around on our routes cause of film but you right shouldn’t be in the game the characters don’t watch film
@christianlopes6386
@christianlopes6386 Месяц назад
“Are these abilities becoming the only way to get a player to for sure do what he’s supposed to be doing?” Yes, that’s exactly the direction it seems like EA’s going. One day Madden + NCAA’s badges are gonna be just as bad as 2K. They don’t belong in simulation sports, they don’t accurately reflect realistic football. My DB should not arbitrarily need a badge to fulfill his assignment or do something simple like break on a ball. Not even a “boost” to the chance of it occurring. Your player should be able to perform any action within the bounds of their speed/strength/acceleration. Badges shouldn’t have the ability to make/break plays like they do, and artificially hold back players who don’t have the proper badge. Spacing, timing, play call, and play recognization should take precedent over everything else. Having/not having a certain badge just ends up hurting good players and rewarding bad players more at the end of the day.
@carltonation
@carltonation Месяц назад
better than him swatting it.....ill take that
@vincentdavis1926
@vincentdavis1926 Месяц назад
They wasted every minute they spent adding abilities
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
Receipts? Evidence? Source?
@Jeff-pd9fd
@Jeff-pd9fd Месяц назад
Agreed
@Hitstick3000
@Hitstick3000 Месяц назад
I played corner and this is what we call a speed turn if I’m back pedaling and the receiver cuts either way I would do a speed turn to get back on my man /zone but in the game it’s to slow there not really good at copying the movement of live football movements and characteristics
@Kinglewy857
@Kinglewy857 Месяц назад
no one is speed turning on an out route brother
@classicfella6037
@classicfella6037 Месяц назад
Man to man coverage on a post corner route I did it all the time but an out route in cover 2 never
@JohnThaDreamer
@JohnThaDreamer Месяц назад
And they said it is not a Madden re-skin. IDK
@gamerd8709
@gamerd8709 Месяц назад
the michigan player made a way better play dude..
@JohnThaDreamer
@JohnThaDreamer Месяц назад
@AnakinSkywalker_ChosenOne we’ll see. 🤷🏾‍♂️ #CognitiveDissonance
@crookbydabook6291
@crookbydabook6291 Месяц назад
Lol "these players train everyday its second nature." ,ur right now ask your self girl why nobody knows how to wrap up or tackle or take a decent angle to the ball carrier. Really watch these defents in the moments leading to the tackle or missed tackle.shit 100 percent scripted bruh so if u want releastic ,then you would just be playin out a predecided game just make it entertaining.real football is ugly
@Shelby-rx5zx
@Shelby-rx5zx Месяц назад
Bro is college football be thankful
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
Who said I wasn't? Lol.
@gamerd8709
@gamerd8709 Месяц назад
they said that the higher skill college players will have a skill gap. which i think is realistic. do you wanna see smaller schools making great plays? which you dont really see in real life. i would be pissed if the schools that are bad in real life are making nfl plays lol but this player is from michigan, a 5 ⭐️school and thats why he made a sensational play
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
With an ABILITY on. Let's see a DB without an ability, exceptional player, making that same play, then we can revisit this conversation.
@gamerd8709
@gamerd8709 Месяц назад
@@JDivine911we will have to see with more gameplay how it plays out. either way its good to disect these things. i like what i saw, overall. alot of good plays i saw in the gameplay other than the a&m play
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
​@@JDivine911If they are exceptional, then they should have a badge of some sort, since they are tiered after all. Unlike Madden, they are tiered, so exceptional corners at smaller schools could have this but at a bronze level or greater depending on the skill level. That's the good part of it being tiered. If not, hopefully they still can make simple plays a D1 corner should make.
@fnomarss8873
@fnomarss8873 Месяц назад
They already talked about everything about abilities im not sure if you read more info about anything so far but a lot of shit you complain about they have pretty good reasons for🤷🏾‍♂️
@JDivine911
@JDivine911 Месяц назад
We'll revisit this conversation once the game drops. Because the question is, "Do you need a ability to perform the basic tasks of a DB?"
@Kingtutt414
@Kingtutt414 Месяц назад
You think this clip piss you off wait until you play it 😂 all that hype about to get thrown out the window I can already see it being bashed already
@2024ty
@2024ty Месяц назад
Facts lmao. Games gonna be ass
@Kingtutt414
@Kingtutt414 Месяц назад
@@2024ty I’m telling you 😂😂😂😂
@oomshaka6683
@oomshaka6683 Месяц назад
Nah there's more to this game than just gameplay, there's a reason dynasty is what people are most excited about, if that's disappointing than the game is bad
@Kingtutt414
@Kingtutt414 Месяц назад
@@oomshaka6683 y’all said the same shit about madden every year 😂 than what happens all of the sudden the game is trash
@ababoononyoutube9921
@ababoononyoutube9921 Месяц назад
​@@Kingtutt414I mean, no matter if it's a great game, to you it's already ass. You will do EVERYTHING in your power to prove that it is ass. So, no point in even buying the game.
@gabenoguez329
@gabenoguez329 Месяц назад
this game is trash 😅! gona play like trash gamers gona realize that in less than 3 months after release day and it be on sale on ea access and playstation black Friday deals
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