dont count this concept out just yet, i genuinely feel like something like this is being slowly set up in the narrative and has become more likely than before ch. 2's release we just jumped the gun, HARD. it's something that would only happen in like chapter 6 or something
Kris: ... Ralsei: Kris, I don’t know what you’re doing or why you’re so mad, but please, stop! This isn’t right! This isn’t you! Susie: Dude. ... Ralsei: Susie, are you ok? Susie: Of course, just... seeing Kris this evil and angry... Ralsei: ? Susie: I’m so proud. Ralsei and Kris: ._.
Kris (NOT Chara): welp susie isn't getting killed Sorry for my bad grammar i do not speak english Edit: yeah, Cookie! Made me know that Chara isn't controlling kris, also i think Chara isn't in deltarune, i Was being stupid when i wrote the original comment
*ralsei* So what do we do? *susie* I dont know but we can't hurt him Just wait til we get another plan *ralsei* really? *Susie* well if you have something better then say it! *ralsei acts* *check* Chara atk 50 def 92 A lightner *susie* Wait why isnt their name kris? *Ralsei* huh? What do you mean? *susie* oh umm... it's nothing *Susie attacks* *Kris attacks susie* *ralsei cast heal prayer* *susie* ... thanks *ralsei* oh... don't worry about it That's what freinds are for *susie* yeah... freinds... *Susie attacks* *Kris acts* *check* Susie atk 90 def 120 Ralsei atk 50 def 70 *Even now they still can't seem to get along =) *ralsei* I'm sorry kris... *ralsei attacks* *susie defends* *Kris attacks Susie* *0 damage* *ralsei* I have an idea Just keep fighting If I can pacify him we can run away and find help *susie* good plan Maybe lancer can help *Ralsei and Susie both attack* *Kris attacks ralsei* *Susie takes the hit* *130 damage* *ralsei* SUSIE! ... I though we were freinds kris *ralsei used dark candy* *susie* all right what did I miss *Susie attacks* *Kris uses choco daimond* *tastes like an actual daimond *+10 hp *ralsei turns your soul black* *You can no longer see you're soul* *You feel yourself growing darker, yet darker* *susie* alright Kris, I'm sorry I have to do this but *susie attacks dealing massive damage* *You hear voices in your head* *ralsei is crying* *You attack ralsei at full force* *even then you can't hurt him* *5 damage* *susie* he's in there Fighting whatever demon is controlling him But we can't keep this up much longer How's that spell coming ralsei *ralsei* he's not tired yet? It won't work until we can- *Kris loses control stabbing ralsei* *blood is pouring out of his opened wound rapidly* *susie* damn it, we're out of items! *ralsei* I'll be fine Just get Kris to fall asleep *susie* You have to heal yourself *ralsei* we can't waste tp *susie* well then what the hell do you suggest we do? Just let you die? *they aren't taking their turn, now is your chance *Kris is sparing ralsei* *No! You damn puppet *You won't ruin this! *The voices in your head grow louder* *You have a terrible headache* *susie attacks* *for a moment she let's her guard down* *just as you strike her* *something very... interesting... happens* *susie* where the hell are we!? *susie looks at her surroundings of what seem to appear as a courasel* *???* why hello there lightner *susie* who The hell are you? *???* a thank you would be nice *???* but then again i dont remember you being kind, kind *susie* I know that voice *???* ahh yes but do you remember this one travelers? *susie* great, another one... *The two figures step into the light revealing themselves as jevil and seam* *susie* You two! *jevil* I see someone's not happy to see me *susie* well out last encounter wasn't exactly friendly *jevil* that makes me sad, sad, uee hee hee *susie* have you seen lancer or that puzzle guy? *seam* You mean puzzlemaster rouxls? No, we have not found either of them We assumed the king evacuated everyone *ralsei* agh! *susie* he's hurt *seam* let me see ... His soul is cracking He cannot last long Unless... *susie* unless what? *seam* he must be bathed in fountain of light *susie* what's that? Is it like that dark geyser thing? *seam* not exactly Follow us, well take you there *susie* but what about Kris? *jevil* he cannot be saved This is his demon to fight, fight He must face the chaos within him *seam* let us be off We do not have time to waste In fact I'd say times running out *One round boi later* *lancer* lesser dad, why are we here again? *rouxls* there is a murderer on the loose They've eliminated half the kingdom And... youre not gonna like who it is *chaos king* quiet... I hear someone coming *a figure in armor walks down the hallway holding a knife* *rouxls* he's here... *tears run down lancers face as the figure illuminates itself* *lancer* I thought... I thought we were freinds...
Could have started it? Kris straight up murdered a classmate by freezing it to death and Noelle would be there to testify if she found out that it wasn't a dream. Susie would definitely attack Kris without a doubt and you would probably see Ralsei in the background trying to stop it.
I love this theme. The roaring trumpets desperately trying to break Kris out of his trance, as the two lighteners fight him. The night looks over the kingdom, as the legend of the prophecy is broken... And everything is plunged into eternal darkness. The combination of both ralsei and Susie's themes fits so well. The theme has 3 parts: the legend, ralsei’s theme and susie’s theme The legend leitmotif sounds strange because it is comprised of all 3 heroes: kris ralsei and Susie.
* Ralsei - ATK 8 DEF 2 * The Prince Of The Dark * He doesn't want to do this * Susie - ATK 14 DEF 2 * Monster Of The Prophecy * She has no choice but to do this
Here's mine: *Ralsei - ATK 9 DEF 4 Find the Soul Of Kindness inside of you...he's wrong. *Susie - ATK 17 DEF 12 She is desperate to get you back, just like her attacks. She is slightly enjoying this battle but she tries to hide it.
You know what would make this boss fight a lot cooler is that now that Susie is getting some basic knowledge of healing magic, it could operate as one of those bosses where if you don’t defeat them both in the same turn one will revive the other.
* The dark monster duo * 50 Attack 40 Defence * time to kill ur best friends * Ralsei depends too much on Healing and kindness *Susie, she thinks she is powerful, but the school bully is now the bullied *Lets see how long they last * *S H A L L W E =)*
*Kris pulls out knife* Kris: I'M GOING TO EAT THAT WHOLE DANG PIE Susie: NO! ME AND MS. TORIEL MADE THAT PIE TOGETHER FOR ALL THREE OF US TO EAT! Ralsei: What is even happening? Kris: SHUT UP, RALSEI! Susie: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I mean. If Toby was to add another snowgrave like route this would be an interesting twist . It could even change the other chapters . Being on your own with no allys
@@onehappyboy3029 it would make the secret boss fight SO much harder, I mean take Snowgrave spamton for example, he is so tough because you are on your own
I love how back when we only had Chapter 1, everyone had super dramatic ideas on what would happen, but now that Chapter 2 is out, anything that's posted is just pure insanity
*Hello old friends... Ralsei ATK 10 DEF 5 A goat of kindness Power of fluffy bois on his side Susie ATK 50 DEF 7 Former demon of sorts Not sure why she has an axe.
*Susie* Kris what are you doing stop! *Ralsie* umm..kris are you ok *Susie* kris! Stop your hurting him!*Ralsei* Please stop *Susie*this is you final chance STOP *Susie* THATS IT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I DO TO TRAITORS. *Kris* ... *Susie* I TEAR THEM TO PIECES. *Ralsei* ... 30 likes for part 2 =) Part2 The epic battle begins *Kris* attacks susie. *Susie* I don't know what's up with you BUT IM NO FREINDS WITH A TRAITOR. *Kris* laughs a wicked laugh. *Susie* ... Your not Kris would never do this... whatever it takes ME AND RALSEI WILL BRING YOU BACK *Kris* Oh you really think you can beat me you'll be lucky if you last an hour ralsei can heal forever while you cant attack forever while I wont even get tired fighting you your not even a threat more like an obstacle..=)* 50 like for part two Sorry I'm late on part two Part 3 yay *Susie ralsei* ... *susie* kris... *shakes head* stop trying to threaten us! Were stronger than you alone right Ralsei. *susie* ralsei? Ralsei what are you doing just standing there we we will need all we have to fight her, him, it . *Susie* Ralsei stop! Please come back I need you!. *kris slashes susie she falls to the floor* *Susie is weak* *susie* Ralsei please *Ralsei heals susie and attacks kris* *Ralsei* I guess we cant spare everyone. *Chara in krises mind she cant keep healing forever ATTACK* *Lancer* I've been watching you and... I wont allow you to hurt my freinds* *Kris* Hmmhh more exp such a pleasant slight let's get started Shall we? 80 like part 4 then ill start a new comment.
0:53 Hearing this, I couldn't help but think about MOTI's adaptation of this song. "You missed again This is the end...! The lie of friends Means nothing now!"
* You don't want to hurt them... * But despite your efforts to take control, * Kris keeps attacking. * You realize that in the end, your choices * *really* do not matter at all.
eh It's more like * Kris doesn't want to hurt them... * But despite Kris's efforts to take control, * You keep attacking. * Kris realizes that in the end, their choices * really do not matter at all.
@@enelenallen I don't really care about the canon, to be honest. Even less considering both Undertale and Deltarune has "Timelines" and AU's, wich makes everything possible.
I got covid and was bed ridden for days I played this as the boss fight theme the time for avoiding it had gone, and it was finally time to fight it very cool thank you
I don't get why everyone thinks Kris is a bad person :/ The only thing we are sure about is that he created a Fountain in his home (it's POSSIBLE that he created the ones in the unused classroom and the computer room), but listen here: You have he possibility to create a world where you are truly who you want to be and there are also the coolest battle themes ever, and there is also Lancer, Roulx and the Queen The Living Meme. Oh also the light world sucks for you. The fountains can destroy the world, but you are sure you can reset if you mess up and you are sure you can seal all the fountains you make. Wouldn't you create the fountains? In a nutshell, Kris is creating the fountains because 1 he loves the dark world 2 he can reset and try as many times as he wants to seal them I know that evil smile at the end of Ch1 is creepy as hec but you were literally controlling him for all the day, wouldn't you be angry as hec too?
I mean if you want to ignore the fact that he mentally abused Noelle, went out his way to harm others, and made Noelle freeze others therefore counts as a death, not to mention killing[?] Berdly, maybe even slashed Toriel's tires, and made a fountain in which Ralsei SPECIFICALLY stated would attract the Roaring, then sure maybe he would be innocent.
Hey so, a small thing to mention, in snowgrave, kris calls for everyone BUT Noelle. It even says: YOU uttered noelles name. You, the soul, called Noelle.
@@professorantasma6591 I just love how only Undertale and Deltarune fans casually talk of the player being a separate entity in the game then the character. For someone who don't know these games at all it seems we're crazy LMAOO
*Check - both *Two kids playing pretend *Seems like they’re in our way *... *Kill them -------------- *Check - both *A dark prince, and 2 monsters. *Only one is the true “monster” here -------------- Spare who? Susie ❤️Ralsei *Boo hoo *You still want to save your friends? *Too bad *They’re not your friends anymore *You’re nobody’s friend *You’re the bad guy.
I've listened to this all the way through maybe 15 times over the last 5 days, and I just noticed the jingle in the background at the beginning is Rude Buster.
* You take a look at your friends. * You reflect back on what you have done. * All the lives you’ve ended. * All the families you’ve broke. * All the LOVE you gained. * You don’t want to fight them. * You press SPARE. * *But your choices don’t matter =)*
*Uuugh.... *Where am I- *RALSEI!?!? You try to explain... **But why would she,of all people,listen..? =)* You try to say sorry,tears filling your eyes,her last words.... *No... *I..I know she would want me to forgive you... *E...Even if...Even if you did this... *But she...she's nothing but scattered dust now... *All because of you... You barely dodge an axe being thrown directly at your head. *But I don't play like she did! *So,Come at me,You Lil' Freak! *I would bite off your face, **B U T T H A T E X P R E S S I O N I S T O S A T I S F Y I N G T O L O S E . . .* Deep within Susie's SOUL,something STRUCK. Something BRAVE. Something PRESERVED. Something JUSTIFIED. Something KIND Something (Sorry,I can't remember the rest,But I have one more.) Something.... *DETERMINED!* *Wait!She's BACK!? BUT HOW!?!? Well,I guess that means more fun for us,then! =) Attack,Susie 1.99999-*Nope! 1... *OH MY F@#$ING GOD!! CAN WE JUST END THIS!?!? *I was thinkin' the Exact Same Thing! *How did sh-!? *I can hear up there,ya lil' Freak! *Now!Let's get this show on the road! **FOR RALSEI!!* *Kris...I thought I could believe in you... *I still do.. *But...Your Unstoppable... *So we hafta end that story... *And make it satisfying.. *But no matter what,just remember... **I AM STILL YOUR BEST FRIEND...*
@chara dremurr anime version Idk,It's just my opinion,Considering Raslei is an alternate version of Asriel,it could be a simple Gender Swap.IDK,Believe what ye want.
* RALSEI 22 ATK 34 DEF He looks truly heartbroken. He must have believed you were friends. * SUSIE 65 ATK 28 DEF It looks like she has a glimmering resolve in those angry eyes. Oh wait, those are just her tears =)
*Persistent, aren't we? *If determination was of any importance in this world we would be in trouble. *Luckily for us, that is not the case. *No matter how hard you try, the outcome won't change. _*And the outcome is their death._ *Or you can just emotionally destroy them. I don't mind.
I really needed to see this, thanks. Btw I bet this fight will be in the game, but since your choices don’t matter they will run away when beaten. The story change will be when Kris is back to normal one of them will probably be out of commission (in the hospital) for a section of the game making it harder. Choices not mattering really limit my edgy fantasies huh...
*Kris obviously, but If in general I'll say Chara because remember that EXP is making Chara more powerful which means that they higher attack, and power to reset all*
Well, I thinks there are *very* low chances of Chara being in the game, but I´ll say Chara. Yes, maybe Kris has determination, but after all *your choices don´t matter* .
*Spamton comes out of nowhere and instantly murders susie and ralsei* ALL FOR YOU, MY [[Certified Custom-]] WAIT, YOU AREN'T KRIS, AAAAAARGH! *instantly shatters chara's soul*
Well of course. In fact I feel like the closest that chapter 2 will come to it is like a kris rebellion from the player seen at the end. More like actively making choices against the player. Like when you have options. Kris will always have the final choice while you just have the opinion
@@acergy9734 MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR SNOWGRAVE/GENOCIDE ROUTE) Deltarune chapter 2 releases: Literal route where you force noelle to freeze everybody including birdley to death.
@@horrorsans3676 Well I mean the whole thing of your choices don't matter, its in comparison to Susie who always ends out making choices equal to you. Your choices don't matter since susie is able to do it. But I feel that your choices can matter in affecting others. Like a rippling effect on others. So I think that Toby intended it
Man back to this day i always come back here to hear such of masterpiece. I still have downloaded the V1 of this song which is underrated, i think dog even deleted the video of the V1 but anyways we can still appreciate this one.
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