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DELTARUNE: Inverted Soul Theory 

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Now that I've considered each chapter's dark world locations, I've decided to do a deeper dive on my theory involving Undertale and Deltarune's soul colors and how it could impact on the future of the game. Hope you enjoy! :D
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@nett_the_tree
@nett_the_tree Месяц назад
It's not just about soul order in Deltarune being inverse to Undertale: Deltarune's darkworlds (based on the two chapters we have) are an inverse to Undertale's progression. Think about it, the 1st darkworld of Deltarune we see has a castle near the end, and we fight a king. Just like in Undertale near the end of the game, we go through a castle to fight a king(which is Asgore). Deltarune's 2nd darkworld is a cyber themed one, with some areas sharing similarities with the Core and the area around MTT hotel. We already know that Spamton Neo is very much connected to Mettaton Neo, but even Queen shares some similar features to Mettaton EX. And so far what we know about Chapter 3, it will be based on entertainment. Some of the assets we seen of Chapter 3 are very reminiscent of some of the stage areas Mettaton uses in Hotland. My guess that other parts of Chapter 3's darkworld will be based off of Hotland. So, instead of Undertale's progression of leaving the Ruins and going to Asgore's castle, we're going in reverse order... very interesting indeed...
@NotABot86
@NotABot86 Месяц назад
What if the ruins are the town during the roaring?
@paichni3474
@paichni3474 Месяц назад
1. New Home 2. Core 3. Hotland 4. Waterfall 5. Snowdin 6. Ruins 7. ??? Maybe chapter 7 is just where frisk starts before going underground, so yeah the surface probably during the roaring.
@superlagbro192
@superlagbro192 Месяц назад
The bosses match too, as jevil is the sans parallel.
@SweetTop7s
@SweetTop7s Месяц назад
This is an interesting theory, the only issue is that this would indicate a boss connected to Muffet and the Purple Soul would be seen in Chapter 3 instead of Undyne and the Green Soul. Yet we know Undyne is highly likely to be involved in Chapter 3 in some way and if we are using the Photoshop Flowey/fallen human items soul order, the Green Soul would be next instead. This may be why many fan-made Chapter 3 secret bosses seem divided on using the Green Soul or Purple Soul. I'm still leaning towards the Green Soul being used but we'll see.
@noideangl
@noideangl Месяц назад
⁠​⁠@@paichni3474Chapter 7 is probably true lab (bunker)
@RomaniaPatriot123
@RomaniaPatriot123 Месяц назад
I don't think Chapter 4 will be a light world chapter. Toby Fox has said that Chapter 3 is going to be a weird chapter and that Chapter 4 will be more typical.
@Number1RatedSalesmanBIGSHOT
@Number1RatedSalesmanBIGSHOT Месяц назад
well then again he said the cyber city would just a room large and look where that statement went so i have a part of me that doesnt believe him
@MeloniestNeon
@MeloniestNeon Месяц назад
I think that chapter 3 will end with us closing the dark fountain, and chapter 4 will, while being in the more standard order for chapters (lightworld then dark world then light world again), will actually have a much more substantial light world segment at the start. Chapter 3 would then be the odd one out because it's JUST a dark world, giving all its lightworld screentime to chapter 4, rather than chapter 4 being just a light world.
@PhantomTaxi6947
@PhantomTaxi6947 Месяц назад
@@Number1RatedSalesmanBIGSHOT I mean technically he wasn't wrong the dark worlds are just large rooms
@pengil3
@pengil3 Месяц назад
@@Number1RatedSalesmanBIGSHOT He said it would only be 1 screen, He was correct because cyber city is on one of the computer sceens in the comuter lab
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 Месяц назад
that's really funny​@@pengil3
@mavi.__890
@mavi.__890 Месяц назад
"Everything Toby does can be a hint" Toby:"He looked like a dofus standing there so I amde him fly"
@qopparune
@qopparune Месяц назад
Yeah
@t-eehee7057
@t-eehee7057 17 дней назад
I like how these two sentences aren't even related lol
@TruzzleBruh
@TruzzleBruh Месяц назад
I didn't realize there were songs in both chapters that are starting to spell Gaster's name out. That is a very big hint tbh
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 Месяц назад
Yeah. Chapter 1 has a song just titled "W" and Chapter 2 has one titled "D". If Chapters 3 and 4 have "G" and "A", I think Gaster is pretty much cemented as being real
@Jamin272-qh5mn
@Jamin272-qh5mn Месяц назад
Mark my words it’s gonna say wd gamer and Toby will have been trolling us
@paolo2763
@paolo2763 Месяц назад
Imagine if it begins spelling "WDYM"
@KSKY2012
@KSKY2012 Месяц назад
Actually☝🤓 if you look at the amount of letters in "W.D gaster" and the amount of chapters, they don't match up. There are 8 letters in WD Gaster, but only 7 chapters. Not saying them spelling out Gaster isn't impossible (if there's a secret chapter 8 or chapter 0) but it's currently unlikely. It would be so cool if this theory is correct, though :D
@Kirby_ate_my_cat
@Kirby_ate_my_cat Месяц назад
@@KSKY2012 Watch the full video, this was talked about.
@masteroftheinternetverse1296
@masteroftheinternetverse1296 Месяц назад
This is a fun theory, but I have one added idea: In almost every instance of seeing souls in Undertale, it always seems like there's a missing one. There are 6/7 souls in captivity, and one empty space. Flowey, in control of 6 souls, still remains soulless. Heck, even in the spring newsletter, there's flowey, a soulless flower, at the end of the chain. Not to mention, the ACTUAL first soul is gone. The eighth chapter won't have the sky blue soul. It won't have a soul at all. The Eighth chapter will be the Soulless chapter.
@thestarryeyedobserver
@thestarryeyedobserver Месяц назад
very good take.
@williamvalorious4403
@williamvalorious4403 Месяц назад
a possible kris boss battle then?
@elmiklosyt652
@elmiklosyt652 Месяц назад
That's interesting ​@@williamvalorious4403
@maxanimator9547
@maxanimator9547 Месяц назад
​@@williamvalorious4403that does sound like the direction the game is taking
@qopparune
@qopparune Месяц назад
We don’t really know what order it was, but we only know clover was the second to last because of undertale yellow
@YarbuFlarbu
@YarbuFlarbu Месяц назад
If the inverted soul theory is correct, then I'm excited for chapter 6 & 7. New mechanics!!!!
@Scbalq
@Scbalq Месяц назад
Maybe cyan soul will have to do something with standing idk
@ognenplayer6089
@ognenplayer6089 Месяц назад
@@Scbalq that would be so fun
@Antoronyx_
@Antoronyx_ Месяц назад
@@Scbalqmaybe orange you always have to be moving, to parallel undertales orange attacks
@Lommie2
@Lommie2 Месяц назад
@@Antoronyx_ *undertale's
@Antoronyx_
@Antoronyx_ Месяц назад
@@Lommie2 fixed it
@mariogeek425
@mariogeek425 Месяц назад
In terms of whether or not chapter 4 will have a darkworld. I'm like 99% confident it will. The newest newsletter talked about fights and bullet patterns for chapter 4. So unless we get into fights in the light world (highly doubt it but who knows) we're getting a fourth dark world.
@NYKevin100
@NYKevin100 Месяц назад
IMHO the only possible way "no dark world in chapter 4" works is if we fight Noelle's mom and/or her underlings. Because, well... she's lowkey hinted to be a real piece of work.
@WillyBillyBoi-6U3P7
@WillyBillyBoi-6U3P7 Месяц назад
Hold up, let him cook. 2 chapters in and we're already cracking the whole game?
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 Месяц назад
yep.
@lisatroiani6119
@lisatroiani6119 Месяц назад
nah, this is just a lotta speculation about color theory and the game
@r-yv5uz
@r-yv5uz Месяц назад
this guy burned the entire house down
@hahen8
@hahen8 Месяц назад
Nah he is missing alot of points and making errors
@WillyBillyBoi-6U3P7
@WillyBillyBoi-6U3P7 Месяц назад
@@hahen8 Yeah around a week later I was thinkin and was like "Waittt...yeah nevermind"
@babafisi8135
@babafisi8135 Месяц назад
I think Chapter 6 is going to be BOTH Cyan and Orange. It’d be weird if the final chapter had a secret boss, when the FINAL Boss is supposedly there. So maybe it’ll be a double battle with the Orange and Blue attacks!
@JokerDoom
@JokerDoom Месяц назад
Kinda like the Asgore fight? 🤔
@babafisi8135
@babafisi8135 Месяц назад
@@JokerDoom Yeah, exactly. But both the Blue and Orange attacks come from separate Darkners, so it would be a 3 vs 2 fight.
@Antoronyx_
@Antoronyx_ Месяц назад
Maybe it would orange and cyan souls, instead of attacks, orange you might have to always be moving but I’m not sure about cyan
@wolfythereject
@wolfythereject Месяц назад
I'd really like it if we got official cyan and orange soul modes instead tbh
@NYKevin100
@NYKevin100 Месяц назад
Orange and cyan hazards appear together frequently in Undertale, so it wouldn't be crazy to put them together in Deltarune. Small problem: They mostly show up in Hotland and the CORE, and we're supposedly doing Undertale backwards, so that would be too early for Chapter 6.
@Delta_Player_0ne
@Delta_Player_0ne Месяц назад
Its inverted order of human Items we find too! Red(Locket&Dagger) Yellow(Hat&Gun) Green(Apron&Pan) Purple(Glasses&Notebook) Blue(Tutu&Ballet Shoes) Orange(Bandana&Glove) Cyan(Ribbon&Toy Knife)
@ognenplayer6089
@ognenplayer6089 Месяц назад
I never thought of that! You're right!
@lolzreaper2692
@lolzreaper2692 Месяц назад
That order of items is the main way we have of knowing the fall order of the humans before the Omega Flowey fight (Of course with the exception of red)
@_marshP
@_marshP Месяц назад
@@lolzreaper2692 I mean, it definitely includes red. All you have to do as a player to confirm it is die.
@ghifariasoka8272
@ghifariasoka8272 4 дня назад
If you squint, the secret bosses also have ties to the weapon. Jevil's scythe is the Devil Knife, and Spamton NEO uses an arm cannon. If god is good, the Chapter 3 secret boss is an old/rubbberhose toon mascot who abuses toon force and slapstick (pan)
@JudeEaley
@JudeEaley Месяц назад
Red - tutorial, nothing special. Yellow - Justice. Introduces consequences to your actions (Sbowgrav)
@SpamtonOf
@SpamtonOf Месяц назад
Interesting theory but I do have a few points I’d like to just discuss One, chapter 4 will almost definitely have a dark world. Toby mentioned it being a more regular chapter and the fact it is raining at one point implies a time skip. If I had to guess, we’ll enter the dark world while it’s raining then it will be sunny once we close the fountain (since that’d be funny since water fountain). Two, I personally think purple will come before green. Undyne had spears in Undertale to give but she has no reason to give us a spear in Deltarune. Also, Kris opens the fountain no matter if you talk to seam or not so they wouldn’t have let Undyne in the dark world for that reason. I personally think, when mentioning the “next” boss, he was talking about the next bods he thought we’d face. He might not have known that Kris, since he seems to know more about the knight, would make a fountain which could mean we find the shadow mantle in chapter 3. While this does rely on the fact that Kris isn’t the knight, I think it makes sense Anyway, still really enjoyed the video so good job and sorry for the rant
@HDDStrider
@HDDStrider Месяц назад
adding on to point 2, Kris would have no reason to believe that the next boss would make them have a green soul. its unlikely they even know what the green soul does. also, assuming they somehow do know what the green soul is and that its next on the list, they wouldnt know Undyne gives out spear shields to protect yourself whilst green. its a very iffy "theory"
@NYKevin100
@NYKevin100 Месяц назад
I think the obvious implication (of Kris having their own save file before the beginning of Chapter 1) is that Deltarune takes place in a time loop, and Kris already knows everything.
@asd-dv7dq
@asd-dv7dq 24 дня назад
​@@HDDStriderWe dont even know anything about kris so you cant assume that
@aegisxor
@aegisxor 11 дней назад
@@NYKevin100 That would be an incredible twist
@aidencalhoun4893
@aidencalhoun4893 Месяц назад
There's one problem with the beginning. Kris wouldn't know they need a shield for a boss, and even if they did, they wouldn't know if Undyne would be that person to give a shield.
@Goldpro42
@Goldpro42 Месяц назад
That's true, and I don't think that Kris even intended for Undyne to show up, it was just a lucky coincidence that Toriel saw Kris outside and decided to call the police.
@GameJam230
@GameJam230 Месяц назад
So Kris can be fully capable of pre-planning chapter 3's dark world by making Susie stay over by slashing the tires, but not capable of predicting Undyne's dark world form? Imo, it seems like Kris has some sort of foresight of the events to come. Having said that though, I still entirely disagree with the theory, especially when it suggests that chapter 4 will be entirely in the light world (going off of Toby's own statements, chapter 3 is implied to be very distinct to the first two chapters, with chapter 4 returning to the expected norm)
@aidencalhoun4893
@aidencalhoun4893 Месяц назад
@GameJam230 I mean, Kris probably barely knows Undyne, they wouldn't know what she would look like or what abilities she would have. But they know dark worlds, and they specifically learned how to summon dark worlds in the end of the the cyber world when the group finds out you only need a lighter with determination to summon a dark world, and then Birdly almost made one before Ralsei stopped them. So yeah, Kris can pre-plan making the dark world and having Susie with them, but not knowing what fights there's gonna be and what abilities new people are gonna have in the dark world.
@Goldpro42
@Goldpro42 Месяц назад
@@GameJam230 I don't really think that Chapter 4 is going to be light world only. It would be pretty interesting, and there is a bit of evidence for it, but it doesn't really make sense all things considered. It was just a suggestion to get people thinking.
@GameJam230
@GameJam230 Месяц назад
@@aidencalhoun4893 okay but you're missing my point here- Kris doesn't NEED to know Undyne if they have foresight. Who knows how the foresight works, maybe somebody just TOLD Kris to get Undyne to the dark world, or perhaps it's a time loop and Kris has already experienced this all before hundreds of times, but whatever the situation is, Kris literally doesn't need to have any recognizable history with Undyne in order for foresight to explain how Kris could know they need Undyne's spear
@JustMaxAsh
@JustMaxAsh Месяц назад
I think, if you defeat all the secret bosses (Jevil, Spamton, etc.) and collect all the Shadow Mantles, you will get the secret 8th chapter
@BladeLightsteel
@BladeLightsteel Месяц назад
You mean where we return back to red?
@NotABot86
@NotABot86 Месяц назад
I’ve thought of this myself, but what if chapter 7’s secret is in one of the tree rooms and only appears if the other 6 eggs are found and placed
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her Месяц назад
You probably meant Shadow Crystals? Interesting idea.
@dr.nostalgia526
@dr.nostalgia526 Месяц назад
@@BladeLightsteelassuming chara and frisk both have red souls or determination it would be still in line with the fallen humans
@Sychke
@Sychke Месяц назад
Joy is me, what a fantastic video!
@JamesonTheFamouson
@JamesonTheFamouson Месяц назад
It ok Rliey, I’m joy!
@zetaright
@zetaright Месяц назад
AYYYYYY I HEADCANNON THIS THEORY!!! ITS REALLY COOL!!!
@UgorGred
@UgorGred Месяц назад
It's truly is!
@closedthedor8400
@closedthedor8400 Месяц назад
remember they are 4 colors and Flowey so teckenaly that mean 7 + 1 = 8 and Flowey have no soul meaning the creation we made at the start has no soul it's just a vessel for a soul and what have no soul but can be a vessel : Flowey that why it show 7 chapiter instead of 8 And i'm quite sure that Toby Fox didn't say there only going have 7 chapitres (sorry for my poor english)
@zetaright
@zetaright 23 дня назад
@@closedthedor8400 kk
@foursidekm
@foursidekm Месяц назад
6:04 gonna sound like a colour nerd here but I believe the name of orange's complimentary colour is azure
@PickleNugget-tk6bw
@PickleNugget-tk6bw Месяц назад
NERD
@danyo5786
@danyo5786 Месяц назад
COLO(U)R NERD
@d0ntwearit0ut
@d0ntwearit0ut Месяц назад
Love this theory! Using Seam’s warning as evidence was so clever!
@michaelkindt3288
@michaelkindt3288 Месяц назад
@1:47-.-But Kris opens the door even if you don't find any secret bosses. Keep in mind the secret bosses are optional, so the story has to make sense if you don't fight them. I'm not saying it's impossible for Undyne giving us some kind of item that will help us fight the secret boss is impossible, but it makes no sense for that to be the specific reason for why Kris opened the door, since they'll do that even if we don't fight any secret bosses, and doing so would make no sense if we don't end up fighting the secret boss.
@bambi9223
@bambi9223 Месяц назад
Oh my god i realised something watching this video: In asgore's flower shop, the colours of the flowers face the opposite sides of eachother. Purple faces green, blue faces orange, cyan faces yellow. Maybe thats the order of opposites we have. But do you know what else is there? A golden flower in the middle. And in the newsletter, what do we see after the four flowers in a row? Flowey. Every time the flowers appear they are in the same order, yes, but he is always at the end. I believe your 8th chapter + 8th soul theory, with one minor tweak. We won't play as a blue soul, we'll play as golden. Now to be fair we are probably about 10 years away from seeing the end of this game so I have no idea how flowey is going to tie into everything, but i know for a fact that he is going to have some involvement. And this just proves that point. Great video btw, this theory is amazing 💖💖
@blu3m0nkey
@blu3m0nkey Месяц назад
Flowey is *soulless* Maybe We Won't Have A Soul Either it's the husk of the character we tried to create Or Kris without one
@Milk--Man
@Milk--Man Месяц назад
​@@blu3m0nkeyOr... Maybe we could play as Asriel.
@blu3m0nkey
@blu3m0nkey Месяц назад
@@Milk--Man yeah I thought that too That would just be a prologue though Or maybe not
@mahfoozhassanrao1055
@mahfoozhassanrao1055 Месяц назад
Pin this goated comment💪
@Rokk_
@Rokk_ Месяц назад
So far each boss also mirrors the reversed No Mercy route in UT, but the fact that the shadow mantle is needed for the chapter 3 boss makes me think that it'll indeed be a green soul battle.
@Sandy_837
@Sandy_837 Месяц назад
I love the theory and it does answer a lot of questions, but I think the red soul doesn’t have a match cause it’s Our/Kris’s soul
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 16 дней назад
Then the Cyan soul being Red's opposite may mean an inversion of Kris, so either a fight against Dark World Kris or just a boss fight against Kris in general.
@Sandy_837
@Sandy_837 15 дней назад
@@Chaki21 i mean it would make a good plot twist in chapter 7
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 15 дней назад
@@Sandy_837 Reminds me a bit of Omori
@Sandy_837
@Sandy_837 15 дней назад
@@Chaki21 Never played omori but I want to try it. Is it worth it?
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 15 дней назад
@@Sandy_837 Yeah it really is, it has some of the best world-building and characters of gaming for me
@user-yu6gl5kk8k
@user-yu6gl5kk8k Месяц назад
I think the soul power of red is to save load and reset or it is determination because if the other souls had that they would still be alive but maybe if you have 6 souls you can load and save or if you have no soul
@billl6636
@billl6636 Месяц назад
On a run after a Reset, Toriel mentions feeling a sense of deja vu whenever a human falls in the undeground, and some of Asgore's flavour text implies he knows about saving. Alphys also mentions extracting the determination used for Flowey and the amalgamates from "the human souls." It's unlikely that determination is exclusive to the red soul. The six humans before Frisk most likely just got defeated due to giving up after many deaths.
@misadique845
@misadique845 Месяц назад
All humans could reset.
@qumerredem746
@qumerredem746 Месяц назад
Nah, red isn't determination. Ball game in undertale states that Red means ,,being yourself", so its something about player vessel. Determination is propably GOLDEN. In Undertale "Determination" is never written Red BUT once in true lab it's highlighted in Gold. The same Gold colour of save point(that is stated by Toby to be physical representation of determination), and the same Golden colour that Flowey's leaves have(flower that was injected with raw determination). It would be huge move from toby, to cover all that in 8th deltarune chapter and finally reveal all secrets behind determination and Red soul. Hope i will still be around in 2078 when chapter 8th drops☠️ Btw if u are interested in topics like this, check out nochocolate blog. This is huge undertale rabbit hole. They have Golden souls explained too. Its propably better than my gibberish.
@Bossfanboy
@Bossfanboy Месяц назад
Papyrus casually implies that the red trait is love when you call him in elevator L3 in Hotland. Yes, it is VERY weird.
@danielsantoro6332
@danielsantoro6332 Месяц назад
I really like this theory! It does have a lot of proof to it, and it has some neat connections to it. I like the idea that we will be facing new soul colors in the last few chapters. My idea is that with the orange soul, you'll have to hit the white attacks to not get hurt, and you want to avoid the green attacks. And the cyan soul can't move, but you can move something else to push it away.
@EmilyMemily-it3xp
@EmilyMemily-it3xp Месяц назад
Calling it right now: now that I’ve watched a single deltarune theory video, my suggestions will be nothing but.
@i8dacookies890
@i8dacookies890 19 дней назад
Up there with Clock Hand theory as something very superfluous but still very compelling.
@kushaukakashki
@kushaukakashki Месяц назад
The very fact that in the news letter, after the four flowers denoting the colors of souls, there is a Flowеy analogy for chapter 8. And in general, the game files seem to have been up to chapter 9
@NL7206
@NL7206 Месяц назад
Orange and navy blue. I've seen a song interpretationg of Gaster being a pirate. If gaster is the knight. He surely is a navy blue soul. He went sailing across time and space, being everywhere for his own gain and nowhere to be catched. Like a pirate!
@NL7206
@NL7206 Месяц назад
Well, not a pirate. But it seems close enough to me, "DEVIL'S DILEMMA" by surreal
@Patrick11nf
@Patrick11nf Месяц назад
Rouxls Kaard roleplays as a pirate and he looks strangely Gaster-like, curious...
@jacobisreal9062
@jacobisreal9062 Месяц назад
YES THANK GOD I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT SOUL ORDER THING FOR SO LONG LOL (Edit: buuut I just realised i think of it more like in boss order: e.g: Jevil - Red | Red - Asgore Spamton NEO - Yellow | MTT EX - Yellow Secret Boss 3 - hypothetically Purple | Muffet - Purple SB4 - Hypothetically Green | Undyne - Green SB5 - Hypothetically Blue | Papyrus - Blue SB6 & SB7 - Hypothetically orange and cyan in some order- could be in other places as well.)
@wrensreviews1125
@wrensreviews1125 16 дней назад
It's even crazier when you realize in underlabs theory about the human souls becoming monsters the orange soul is theorized to be gaster
@porygon4023
@porygon4023 Месяц назад
I honestly think Deltarune's dark worlds will mirror Undertale in reverse. Chapter 1: The Card Kingdom, mirrors New Home, it is a kingdom whose king is set on the freedom of his race Chapter 2: The Cyber World, mirrors Core, since it is made of technology and features a hot robot and the NEO armor Chapter 3: The TV/Living room world, this mirrors Hotland since it would likely represent a combination of normal terrain and technology (though the green soul fight does not occur here, except maybe when Undyne chases you into it at the end of her fight? It could use the purple soul instead) Chapter 4: The Church world (since Rudy says he would try to go to church on Sunday, and Chapter 3 I think takes place Saturday night), mirrors Waterfall. This is where we meet Gerson and learn about the Angel in Undertale, while in Deltarune, Alvin is the head of the church that worships the Angel. Chapter 5: This one I'm not sure about, but if it mirrors Snowdin it would probably have to do with Sans and Papyrus, the Holiday family, or ICE-E. I believe in the Papyrus Knight theory, and if we use chess theory here this would also be the Knight chapter. The blue soul does occur in Snowdin, so this would fit. Other than that I'm not sure. Chapter 6: My theory is that this will be the Gaster chapter and take place in the bunker, which would be parallel to the Ruins. It would likely be a more treacherous dark world that Gaster has to guide you through like Toriel guides you through Undertale. I should also note that this could include both the Orange and Cyan souls, since Gaster was shown to be adept with both color's powers when building the CORE defenses and the two seem more like counterparts to each other (keep moving vs. don't move) Chapter 7: This would mirror the Surface and include a fight against the Angel, since Gerson says the Angel will come from the surface in Undertale. This could possibly include the Roaring and the dark and light world becoming one.
@SayfuHQ
@SayfuHQ Месяц назад
tbf you are cooking
@waterisbased
@waterisbased Месяц назад
. The Dark Blue soul means Integrity, so Spamton being the opposite of that makes perfect sense. . The Purple soul means Perseverance, so Chapter 3's secret boss will probably have a procrastinative/laid-back personality. . The Green soul means Kindness, so Chapter 4's secret boss will most likely have an uncouth/angry personality, akin to the Mad Dummy . The Yellow soul means Justice, so Chapter 5's secret boss will speculatively be an evil/corrupt character. . The Light Blue soul means Patience, so Chapter 6's secret boss is admittedly quite hard to speculate. . The Orange soul means Bravery, so Chapter 7's secret boss will be a character revolved around cowardice. This is could easily be proven wrong as soon as the next two chapters come out, so don't take my word for it.
@koza.
@koza. 28 дней назад
bro is cooking like game theory you're giving me chills the same way matpat used to man
@butterflydreamer9649
@butterflydreamer9649 19 дней назад
bro really cooked hard especially now with the debug icons
@lorkes1017
@lorkes1017 24 дня назад
one of the best theories i've ever heard about Deltarune
@nikicherry1234
@nikicherry1234 Месяц назад
that's interesting. and it could maybe tell us more about what the soul power of red is, if it has one at all.
@jackatk
@jackatk Месяц назад
People are convinced that it’s determination, even though DT is never associated with red… maybe we’ll find out soon?
@anakardoso
@anakardoso Месяц назад
It’s determination it makes the red soul “unkillable” it’s the only one that never gives ups and comes back so it will just keep coming back until the enemy loses the other sould may have come back like 3 or 5 times and just gave up on asgore
@guideoftheriver7112
@guideoftheriver7112 Месяц назад
​@@anakardoso all humans have determination, why would one soul trait be literally just determination. Especially considering perseverance being so close to meaning the same thing. Also frisks determination likely comes from the player, not from the red soul trait.
@ricardobr1493
@ricardobr1493 Месяц назад
​@@guideoftheriver7112the 7 dead children:
@stuffjuststuff6067
@stuffjuststuff6067 Месяц назад
@@ricardobr1493 ok?????
@elliottlava7784
@elliottlava7784 Месяц назад
The theory goes hard but the part about opposites shows what years without an update does to a man
@ythunter4288
@ythunter4288 25 дней назад
I don't know how this plays into the theory, but the colors of the souls also align with the colors of our heroes and their personalities. Susie is purple and represents perseverance, Ralsei is green and represents kindness, and Kris is a shade of blue that may align with the hidden navy blue you mentioned in the video. In some secret chapter, the final boss may be Kris himself, with his true soul (the navy blue one) fighting against the player's soul (the red one).
@michaelkindt3288
@michaelkindt3288 Месяц назад
For the record, a mantle is an article of clothing that's kind of like a poncho, but only goes down to the elbows at most. They're kind of too ponchos what skirts are to dresses, or shorts are to pants. One could still imagine it being intended to act as a shield in green mode, but I think it's important to point this out.
@TheGreatPM1
@TheGreatPM1 Месяц назад
Omg, this is actually a really good theory for Deltarune. I actually believe that this will happen
@stellanovaluna
@stellanovaluna 26 дней назад
Wait this is actually genius I didn’t even think of that
@MyNameIsRati
@MyNameIsRati Месяц назад
I always liked the thought of the sky blue soul as a soul of "calmness". It is almost the opposite of bravery and it fits in blue colored souls as well!
@Nobodyslittlebirb
@Nobodyslittlebirb Месяц назад
Sky blue - skies forever blue
@palavra571
@palavra571 15 дней назад
orange and navy blue are literally papyrus and sans
@calebdemosthene284
@calebdemosthene284 Месяц назад
2:00 given how kris does this no matter if you even do the secret boss or talk to seam this is most likely not the case.also how does kris know that undyne is the key to the shadow mantle
@Goldpro42
@Goldpro42 Месяц назад
I thought about that, it's interesting! I think we can assume that Kris knows more than we think, and has some knowledge on the green soul and the Undyne from Undertale.
@akip3081
@akip3081 Месяц назад
@@Goldpro42 why don't you back that up with a source
@Lissy_YT481
@Lissy_YT481 Месяц назад
​@@akip3081my source is that I made it the f- Ups, sorry, wrong reference...
@Goldpro42
@Goldpro42 Месяц назад
Actually, I think it's more likely that Kris didn't even intend for Undyne to come along. It was just a lucky coincidence that Toriel caught Kris lurking around and decided to call the police.
@akip3081
@akip3081 Месяц назад
@@Goldpro42 why did kris open the front door?
@timedeathe
@timedeathe Месяц назад
2:18 quite unlikely considering the fact the order literally means nothing. For all we know the 4th secret boss could use cyan.
@timedeathe
@timedeathe Месяц назад
3:45 ok any other proof other than colors or inversions? This theory isn't very convincing 5:08 a chapter without a dark world would be kinda boring. And if it has no dark world then the secret boss theory isn't going to hold up. At least for soul colors 5:16 you can't say anything about chapter 4 by one quote on a news letter. This isn't fnaf or something. 6:17 one of the least likely things. I doubt toby wants to work on deltarune for another 2 years. 6:30 Solution do two songs in named letters in one chapter. No extra headaches needed.
@jay-virm
@jay-virm Месяц назад
Since we're having some fun overthinking little details, I wanna give my own idea too Alternatively, I think Red might be the one without a pair. It's made clear Red has always been distinct from the rest. If you want to look into it further, the other souls have pairings too. Cyan and Orange are both given attack gimmicks instead of altering our soul, Blue and Purple are found in Waterfall, and while this one is much looser, Green and Yellow are both found in Hotland to a certain extent as well as both weapons having four hit reticles when used. Take it further to Your Best Nightmare. In the OST, the soul themes are not only put into pairs of two but are in the exact same pair order I give out. The only conclusion I could draw from this is that Red's pairing might be... Red. We often brush off the fact that Chara and Frisk are both red souls, but I feel like we could draw up some point that there *isn't* a different color to pair with red and that is will always circle back to itself. Two red souls fell into the underground, so it would only be right to consider both when theory crafting. The fact Flowey constantly compares Frisk to Chara also helps reinforce this idea. Determination, Power, Ball Game-- whatever you want to define red, it seems to always be an exception. But what does that mean for Chapter 1? Well, I'm not entirely sure. But it's something I want to share my thoughts on and see if other people can see where I'm thinking with this. Perhaps that second red might refer to us and our discarded vessel. We might become the final opponent, at least to Kris. Because really, who's the one in control?
@xxcorrinxx6299
@xxcorrinxx6299 Месяц назад
Wow this theory is spectacular, and I appreciate this level of quality in under 10 mins! Not every good theory needs to take several hours to cover lol
@redisnotsus263
@redisnotsus263 Месяц назад
If the soul colors were *actually* related to Undertale's fallen humans, "the secret chapter" would probably be associated with the red soul as Chara has a determination soul.
@JustGr8
@JustGr8 Месяц назад
You're spitting bars ngl
@por3896
@por3896 25 дней назад
my predictions in the future bosses: also i wanna point out that every chapter will have a secret boss that uses one special gimmick special soul c1: Jevil RED c2: spamton/spamton neo YELLOW c3: Undyne GREEN also c3 will happen in a tv world which is confirmed c4: we didnt see mettaton who used the yellow soul before c2 was released and we got spamton a dif version of mettaton so i predict that c4 will have a different version of muppet c4 probably will mostly be in the overworld c5: either sans or papyrus that may be crazy but i have an idea of what c5 will be: paparus will be the knight or just a main boss and sans will be a secret boss (i hope atleast) we got hints that we will see paparus soon thats what sans said and he had history of being a knight before but i have no idea where c5 will happen c6: is so far in time its useless to speculate but if toby continues with this pattern there will be a secret boss that uses the orange soul gimmick which is unknown only some fangames used either the "always move" gimmick but its unofficial so the gimmick may be completely different c7: may or may not be released before 2030 at this point so its dumb to speculate that far but we will get a secret boss that will use the cyan soul gimmick i have a theory that since its an inversion of the red soul cyan soul will be red soul but with inverted controls but that is just a theory a game theory
@No.1RatedSalesman
@No.1RatedSalesman Месяц назад
1:35 This may suggest its not the krder of fallen humans but the reverse order of the souls used, in which case next chapter will be the purple soul as that comes after unyne but befire mettaton 2:00 how would kris know undyne can provide a method of blocking?
@boredteenagerinthewild
@boredteenagerinthewild Месяц назад
Undyne is a police officer,what kind of police officer wouldn't know how to block attacks?
@No.1RatedSalesman
@No.1RatedSalesman Месяц назад
@@boredteenagerinthewild Kris has a fucking shield, so maybe applying common sense to this argument doesnt work out for either of us
@amberslime3683
@amberslime3683 Месяц назад
7:06 Unless my eyes have completely failed me, I'm pretty sure those two hex codes both read "#ECFE0F" Aside from that, very interesting theory! The idea of Deltarune's soul order being inverted from Deltarune's is interesting, although i feel like a sample size of two secret boss fights is a little early to be making the call that there's a specific order of souls in mind.
@Michael-cg7yz
@Michael-cg7yz Месяц назад
There's not much to suggest this, but with red and orange being so similiar, maybe it has some connection with theories that talk about the indended recipient of our control? That is, we were meant to control the vessel, but ended up with Kris and the vessel is now under Gaster's or someone else's control.
@blu3m0nkey
@blu3m0nkey Месяц назад
Orange Left partnerless Hmmm Flowey Just maybe we'll play as Asriel Or A souless charater
@morganbloczy
@morganbloczy 23 дня назад
Personally i don't think that an 8 soul color would happened, instead I'd think after cyan it would loop back to red. After all technically, chara had a red soul, and if we go by that logic undertales soul order would go red, cyan, orange, blue, purple, orange, yellow, red. So by that logic theirs already 8 souls. Also orange goes before the final chapter, meaning story structure wise, that's when everything goes to shit, Like the roaring. But if I we're to follow your logic, I'd believe that you're sky soul would be dlc or a hidden ending or path unlocked by doing either snowgrave-esk routes, the eggs, or finding the secret bosses. But with the songs, spelling WD.Gaster I'd think that the final bosses track could fit that mold, or some form of bonus content after completing the game, like the doorway at the edge of town, or dlc as previously mentioned. Anyways, good video, sorry if this comment just comes of as rude or a monotonous block of text. Have a great day.
@waffles9733
@waffles9733 Месяц назад
this is a much more shallow comment in comparison to your analysis, but Orange and Cyan souls being the last 2 souls intrigues me even further considering that they are the only ones we have not used in Undertale or Deltarune at all
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 16 дней назад
Is Undertale's blue soul really about integrity and not cyan ? Because Blue attacks meaning don't move, the blue soul coming from the blue attack and cyan souls meaning patience makes me think the blue soul might be closer to cyan perhaps ?
@arn3107
@arn3107 27 дней назад
this makes sense i've heard other theories about a chapter 0, that might be your "8th" chapter you should definitely look into it if you want to solidify this theory
@ARCTICN0VA
@ARCTICN0VA 17 дней назад
If this is true then maybe we will finally know how the cyan soul works Orange is kinda obvious you gotta move 24/7 Unless toby makes the mechanic something different
@Spaceyguy_animates
@Spaceyguy_animates Месяц назад
I LOVE THIS IDEA IT MAKES ME SO HYPE FOR THE NEXT CHAPTERSS
@leafgem
@leafgem Месяц назад
I think there might be a secret 8th chapter, since next to the newsletter flowers, there was also flowey, who seemed to stand out
@Apmarciano30
@Apmarciano30 Месяц назад
the orange soul aka bravery has no partner because it alone its bravery is enough to withstand
@lollolaso
@lollolaso Месяц назад
now that i think about it, sans tells Kris he already befriended Toriel, so she could just, "Hey Kris, I met a new monster, named sans", that's why Kris can say, "Hey, sans"
@ScadrianGhostblood
@ScadrianGhostblood Месяц назад
Good theory. It's simple, but interesting, original, possible and fits with the narrative.
@a_er0_theblazikenfan
@a_er0_theblazikenfan 9 дней назад
toby watching this video watching you completely overthink this and just wanting to use some random colours
@Yahahuuythefunniman
@Yahahuuythefunniman 14 дней назад
i think the orange soul will likely be the representative of the overworld chapter, as you mentioned the light world uses alot of oranges and greens, and since orange is the only one without a partner i would assume thats the outlier chapter thats purely in the overworld
@Thatguy16837
@Thatguy16837 29 дней назад
If deltarune is an inverted world doesn't that mean humans are the ones trapped underground
@JavisSariahal
@JavisSariahal Месяц назад
>Sky blue as in... Skies Forever Blue?
@ognenplayer6089
@ognenplayer6089 Месяц назад
Holy
@riskdream
@riskdream Месяц назад
This is wild to me, because I've long had the crazy theory that Kris, with their color scheme and personality, fits somewhere right between cyan patience and blue integrity. They're clearly focused on protecting their sense of self, but patient in dealing with it. A secret chapter with that exact in between color makes me Wonder.
@MC_CN
@MC_CN Месяц назад
NOT THE ECHOES OF THE EYE SOUNDTRACK 2:50
@DaDefenestrator.
@DaDefenestrator. Месяц назад
6:32 in the file, there's a title card for chapter 0. Maybe that's the last letter
@doppii8885
@doppii8885 Месяц назад
wait you’re extremely good at doing videos like this please become our next matpat
@MikeJoe-jy5kp
@MikeJoe-jy5kp Месяц назад
In Undertale yellow, the blue soul and the yellow soul are brought together, in Undertale musical blue and yellow are brought together and now similarly here and in Deltarune
@starracer1981
@starracer1981 Месяц назад
Man it sounds like a major running gag no dosent it?
@DailyDoseofGTag-le5lr
@DailyDoseofGTag-le5lr Месяц назад
Can't wait to see what the cyan and orange soul are if they appear
@Megapixel8063
@Megapixel8063 Месяц назад
This is some of the most insane brain-rotted theorizing and I love it
@Megapixel8063
@Megapixel8063 Месяц назад
Actually I’m starting to believe you
@T0B3573R
@T0B3573R Месяц назад
If there was a sky blue color, would it be a trait like, I don’t know.. Humility? Maybe something like Dedication? Loyalty? Hope? I’m not sure.
@supermemoluigi
@supermemoluigi 25 дней назад
I always thought that Kris/Frisk's original Soul is Patience but our Will/Determination to this world make their soul into Red previously the only type of connection i had for that was Kris' color palette in the Dark world, Frisk being called Kris in a newsletter code, the fact that in certain part of Undertale CORE there's a hidden third part in which requires to be patient and the Switch Soul in the Nintendo Switch version. but with this theory of the inverted souls, i think it adds something on that other theory. consindering that Cyan and Red are their counterparts.
@FluffyWolfLord
@FluffyWolfLord 28 дней назад
its heavily theorized that Kris's natural soul colour is cyan so having the red and cyan inversion would fit perfectly with the whole player and Kris dynamic
@blakestation2632
@blakestation2632 Месяц назад
Just an FYI the order that you listed to souls falling in is 100% just a theory based on the order you find the weapons and armor in undertale. That could be equally likely to be the places they died or just completely random. Overall I like this theory (not the first time ive heard it but I do like it) and also generally subscribe to the idea. That being said i think it is a bit misleading that you assume thats the order the human dies without mentioning its just a theory. (Im wrighting this comment early into the video and will edit if i made any wrong assumptions) Edit: Just finished the video, absolutely excellently done, you have definitely earned a sub. I would just make sure to keep in mind the previous things i said. Also I doubt we will have an 8th chapter but if we do I doubly doubt we will have a 3rd blue soul lol, especially considering I think we were only supposed to have 6 souls to start with in undertale. (If you reply I would love to elaborate on that claim)
@IliLav
@IliLav 22 дня назад
I was thinking the order of each soul color throughout the chapters were just the reversed order you get the items associated to the soul colors in undertale
@cutecharacterpower
@cutecharacterpower Месяц назад
I believe it was never fully confirmed that this was the orders in which the human child fell in UT, but it is an interesting coincidence
@ognenplayer6089
@ognenplayer6089 Месяц назад
I never would've thought of this, amazing theory! But, for me it's a bit of a shame these soul types would only be used for the secret bosses, and not be that important in other parts of the game. But who knows? Maybe Toby changes his mind and makes it appear in other bosses too.
@redwolf705
@redwolf705 25 дней назад
5:41 most relatable part about undertale/deltarune
@PenguinParty
@PenguinParty Месяц назад
"There won't be a dark world in chapter 4" Then how the heck are we getting a secret boss with the purple soul, huh???
@Goldpro42
@Goldpro42 Месяц назад
maybe the light world will have a secret boss :)
@milesmcallister8542
@milesmcallister8542 Месяц назад
​@@Goldpro42 but Magic doesn't exist in the light world
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 16 дней назад
@@milesmcallister8542 Isn't the point of his theory to be that the light world gets inverted after chapter 3 ?
@Cheese_McCheeseMan
@Cheese_McCheeseMan Месяц назад
Our fandom is so cooked we’re making theories like this 2 chapters in
@Deus_Corvus
@Deus_Corvus 29 дней назад
I also recommend watching half bread chaos’ episode about elements if you want to know about the shadow mantle
@destinypurpley
@destinypurpley 27 дней назад
also on the note of the newsletters, it goes with all the last unfinished chapters, and then flowey, do you think the 8th chapter might only exist if you've played and beaten undertale? some games have cross game references and featues, they're usually much smaller than a whole new segment of a game, but I could see a world where a secret final chapter unlocks if you have beaten undertale on your device
@Halfsmashy
@Halfsmashy 22 дня назад
2:28 bro from where orange went XD
@mrblakeboy1420
@mrblakeboy1420 Месяц назад
this definitely supports my chapter 5 papyrus house theory
@faelsafe
@faelsafe Месяц назад
To back up the speculation/theory, If the Last 4 soul colors / Hypothetical last 4 chapter colors are accurate, then wouldn't Flowey being part of that lineup suggest that 8th chapter? (And also, to connect Deltarune + Undertale together even though they narratively aren't connected, could that suggest that Flowey/Asriel's 4th wall breaking powers were potentially unlocked by the same source as the Deltarune secret bosses? Like, how do you make the jump from "I can use the power of determination to "SAVE" and Turn back time for myself, making all these interactions *feel* like a video game where I'm trying to scrape out every piece of content" to going "oh my god I'm in a video game" and speaking directly to the player?)
@HybridHamster
@HybridHamster 27 дней назад
this is likely coincidental, but when you said the opposite of orange is “sky blue” it sounds somewhat similar to Toby’s other game, skies forever blue. (The irl version of dragon blazers, nollelle s game. Not sure what this could mean, however. Additionally, spamton had a dialogue predicting the location of the next chapters in the spamton NEO fight. I don’t remember the exact dialogue, but the next chapters should take place in room with a TV chapter 4 in a room with a canvas room, perhaps an abandoned art room? This makes it unlikely for a light world chapter 4, though it might just be a really long carnival session. Maybe things get crazy in castle town, idk.
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 Месяц назад
Justice and kindness also makes sense with genocide becoming available since justice and kindness naturally oppose genocide, unless it was like genocide towards some intrinsically evil force.
@Clover-212
@Clover-212 Месяц назад
Having bravery and patience respectivily sounds really but really cool, i just hope they dont work like undertale fangames usually make it work. Fast edit: The newsletter confirmed chapter 4 has indeed battles
@Tach_ion
@Tach_ion Месяц назад
I always thought there'd be a Magenta soul if anything for a secret 8th given how Magenta is different enough from Purple to be a main color in its own right. But looking at it closer, the Purple soul is already more Magenta than Purple
@AlexanderMyers-zn7ge
@AlexanderMyers-zn7ge Месяц назад
Something I've been thinking of is the 8th soul might be the thing we made in the beginning of the game fighting against us
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 16 дней назад
Or the opposite, we play the thing we made at the beginning to fight Kris, making us come back in control of the game and the choices
@AlexanderMyers-zn7ge
@AlexanderMyers-zn7ge 16 дней назад
@Chaki21 yeah maybe it's toby so nobody knows
@Clock1-work7
@Clock1-work7 Месяц назад
I’m not 100% sure, but I think that the cyan SOUL was originally the inverse of orange, but they changed it because it was hard to differentiate it from the blue SOUL, especially for colorblind people. As someone else here said, red is much more likely to be the odd one out, since it’s the protagonist’s.
@aarongrant1
@aarongrant1 28 дней назад
Personally, I want to think that it goes in order of the Mechanics correlating being introduced in Undertale, but reversed. Red comes first and when it gets a gimmick is at the end of the game, and it is the only mode in undertale to refuse, similar to how Kris refuses our control as a player. Yellow comes next, much less to explain. Then where it changes is it would be purple instead of green, because of muffet. Then, another change, it would be Orange instead of purple, not just because there is no purple, but because of orange attacks. Then there is green, and frankly I think it would be better if it wasn't undyne, because then it could get something new like the yellow soul did with the [BIG SHOTS]. Next, there's Blue, obviously. And then finally, theres cyan, so that stays unchanged. This actually still lines up with your inversion theory with how the souls work, as it would be Red, Yellow, Green, Purple, Blue, Orange, and Cyan into Red, Yellow, Purple, Orange, Green, Blue, Cyan, which has all your inversions in the opposite location. Red 1st, Cyan 7th, Yellow 2nd, Blue 6th, Purple 3rd, Green 5th, and then Orange, the only one without a counter, gets put in the middle
@zipped_file
@zipped_file Месяц назад
this is what 4 years without a new chapter does to us
@Chaki21
@Chaki21 16 дней назад
3*
@xaviidk
@xaviidk 16 дней назад
Navy blue should allow you to move to the position you were at two seconds ago
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