What is the Highest EXP Possible in Undertale?? 

Glad you mentioned the Loox thing, glad to see someone getting that information correct. Although I doubt anyone actually did it - it would require an unbelievable amount of time to get to LV20, since each Pick On only gives 1 extra EXP. (You would need to do 90000+ acts, each of which is at least 4-5 seconds) By normal means (what you do in this video), LV17 is indeed the highest that can be reached in a Neutral run. Using glitches to infinitely re-fight some monsters does let you get to 18 - 20, but outside of that LV18 is essentially unused which is kind of wild! Good video, glad it's getting attention. 💜

undyne the undying watching how some random child murders her entire race except for an obese skeleton, a yellow otaku reptile and two random guards right after she sacrificed herself in the name of the monster race

Alphys is the most disgusting character in the game. She evacuates the monsters, preventing us from reaching LV 25(((

Imagine being Madjick in this run. You confront the human that has been slaughtering monsters in a desparate attempt to save your people. The human kills your ally, and then just bails. Then the human repeats this, over 30 times, murdering your friends and inexplicably just completely ignoring you.

Canonically, Sans says, in a neutral route where you get LV 10 and reload in the judgement hall, that LV 20 is the maximum

So funny having the end of alphys soul crushing failed no mercy run dialogue getting cut off by the uplifting hype youtuber music lol. Neat challenge idea.

discrimination against certain monsters be like:

1:09 sans ain't even there bruh, bro was too lazy to show up 💀

I remember someone saying a really long time ago that lv 17 is the highest that can be achieved in a neutral run, and I always wondered how true that was. It's a gratifying feeling to see someone perform such a run themselves.

Fun fact: this isn’t actually how you can get the highest Attack stat in the game (well, on a neutral route). Basically, you recreate what happens here, but spare Glad Dummy and buy Temmie Armor.

Human I remember your *highest EXP in Undertales*

9:29 LOVE 13 AT UNDYNE THE UNDYING?!! Oh my goodness... That's impressive!

Alphys in aborted geno: I should have killed you Alphys when I kill undyne but spare monster kid: *Suddenly not watching*

You said in the video that Toriel does not contribute to the Ruins death counter. However, that isn't entirely accurate. A glitch in the game lets you slay only 19 enemies in the Ruins, then fight Neutral Route Toriel and still be on the Genocide Route, implying that she does count toward the Ruins death counter. This information will be useful when you do the "Lowest EXP Possible in Undertale's Genocide Route" video.

I tried doing this exact thing in Undertale Yellow! I didn't have the patience or information for it though, as it uses different encounter rules then Undertale. Notably, being on a genocide route in that game means less monsters show up per area, so the optimal thing to do (I think) is to abort the route in Snowdin. Maybe you should try to do it! This video was very well made, and any more love for Undertale Yellow is always good.

Really good video! I did this run myself a while back, and you can actually get a slightly higher amount of EXP. The “don’t pick on” option for Loox subtracts the amount of total EXP you would get. You can optimize this to be one off of the EXP cap and get the highest EXP amount, similar to going over the kill count. This allows each Loox to give 24 EXP. This would give 42 extra EXP, which still isn’t enough to reach LV 18, but it is theoretically the highest possible EXP.

Sans in the judgement hall was probably like "Jesus fucking christ dude"

Sans: *makes pun* Papyrus: *watches this video*

As another comment said before, it's possible to get 24 EXP from Loox instead of 22 Another thing though is that it's possible to erase Lesser Dog's encounter entirely, since he's always the third Snowdin encounter (unless you fight Glyde). If you exit the room on the same frame that you encounter Lesser Dog, he will never appear again. That means that you're free to farm Glydes FIRST and THEN get a triple encounter with Snowdrake, Jerry, and Ice Cap. Be sure to steal Ice Cap's hat so that it gives 25 EXP instead of 16

0, because exp is EXPERIENCE, -1 is the lowest, if you try to kill napstablook

16:40 Technically, LV 18 is completely possible, though only through a glitch I have little understanding of called the Persistence Glitch. Also, I'm aware this doesn't count under your criteria since you have to fight Mettaton NEO and get the automatic LV 19 in order to do this, but it's possible to do a LV 19 Neutral Route through another glitch- which I'm not sure actually has a name- by exhausting your Hotland kill counter and sparing Muffet afterwards. Mettaton NEO's kill check doesn't actually check for whether or not Muffet was killed, so you still fight him and get LV 19. But Sans' kill check does, so you never end up fighting him.

I hate seeing such good videos from such good channels who just don't have enough subscribers. You deserve so much more recognition for what was quite obviously a passionate idea.

I think I caught a mistake. It makes more sense to spare or flee from Snowdrake at first, THEN kill 15 Glydes. Afterward, you can get the encounter with Snowdrake, Ice Cap and Jerry, and kill Snowdrake there. The extra Ice Cap and Jerry would add 26 EXP to the total, making the final EXP a nice even 23500. EDIT: I think I caught another mistake. It's possible to obtain as much as 24 EXP from Loox, not 22. I don't blame the doc for not catching this, since to do it you must do a combination of Pick On's and Don't Pick On's. One combo that works is: Pick on x3, Don't Pick On x4, Pick on x3. This means an extra 2 EXP for each of the 21 Ruins encounters, making the hypothetical Max EXP 23542. EDIT 2: I greatly underestimated how hard the game railroads you into a Lesser Dog encounter. The Snowdrake, Ice Cap and Jerry encounter is locked behind the Lesser Dog encounter. It can be avoided by glitching it (getting it right at the room transition) but in a glitchless run there's no way. So the new new Max EXP has been downgraded to 23516.

Great idea and great excecution! (Pun not intended.) Fun fact: The highest kill counter possible is 120 kills, although it's lower in total EXP than achieved in this video. It's the same as this route with two minor differences. The first is that in the ruins, Snowdin and Waterfall, instead of killing two Looxs, one Glyde and Aaron with Woshua, instead kill triple incounters with any enemies. This will grant four additional kills. The second is instead of sparing the Royal Guards and aborting the genocide route, keep proceeding on the genocide route so that you can kill Sans for one additional kill.

"I believe in equality" "Therefore I will kill every monster" -Genocide Frisk (Probably)

Wow, I never knew that about the Loox pick on option! I love that people continue to find new content in Undertale, Deltarune, and its fan games, it makes them even more interesting! I hope this video gets many more views, I'm so grateful it happened to reach me! Awesome job.

this took a very interesting take on the idea. Great video editing and story execution. you are very underrated and have earned a new sub. Not to mention you pointed out Easter eggs I was unaware of (like looks) (I've been heavy into the fandom since 2015)

Awesome vid! I’ve thought about doing something like this a lot so it was cool to see someone do it! One note: Loox can actually yield 24 EXP. The way to do this is to: -Pick On (3x) -Don’t Pick On (4x) -Pick On (3x) When using don’t pick on, the EXP is reduced by 2. After subtracting 8 from 22, were left with 14 exp, and all it takes is three more Pick Ons to get 24 (not that it would’ve affected much of the run, also the third pick on after the dont pick on just removes spareable status and doesn’t increase exp yield so three are necessary). Not that this would have affected much of the run. Awesome work though!

Gonna fact check you here. With Loox, Don't Picking on him lowers his EXP yield by 2, as long as it's above 5. Picking on him raises your EXP yield by 5, as long as it's below 20. Meaning that you can Pick (12), Pick (17), Unpick (15), Unpick (13), Unpick (11), Unpick (9), Pick (14), Pick (19), Pick (24).

Interesting how the whole thing was aborted because you spared two random guards, but you actually got MORE kills than absolutely necessary.

I left a long comment already, but I also want to give a simple-ish explaination on how Genocide Routes work. Basically, the game has a counter in it that counts random encounters per area, so no scripted encounters like the first Froggit, major characters, etc. . This doesn’t include semi-scripted encounters like Snowdrake and the first Aaron enounter that are “scripted” by the fact that it’s impossible to leave the room before exausting the room’s “step counter”, a counter that counts steps (duh) within rooms to track when the next encounter should happen, since having rooms like the -3- -_4_- _five_ Froggit room and the big open Waterfall room with all the Echo Flowers and the Ballet Shoes (the one with Moldbygg, that one) have the same encounter rate would suuuuck (It’s also set really high for Glyde’s room so you won’t find it without looking super hard for it). This step counter is set to increase as your kill count for the area increases, making Genocide something you have to go out of your way for. It doesn’t affect initial step counters as much though, so changing rooms makes encounters MUCH faster. Anyways, the game also has a Murder level sytem (abbreviated to MDR because it’s undertale what isn’t abbreviated?) that increases when you: - Kill 20 Ruins monsters - Kill Toriel - Kill Doggo - Kill the Dogi - Kill Snowdrake - Kill 16 Snowdin monsters - Kill Papyrus - Kill Shyren - Kill -the Dummy- Mad Mew Mew (Respect her transition, folks!) - Kill 18 Waterfall monsters - Kill Undyne - Kill the gays - Kill Muffet - Kill 40 monsters across Hotland and The Core - Kill NEO (Manditory if previous steps taken) Additionally, if ANY skippable mini-bosses or manditory mini-bosses that DON’T have Murder levels assigned to them are SPARED (The flag STARTS at 0, then INCREASES for each spare, so it doesn’t count unencountered monsters), then the game will overwrite your Murder level later on, aborting the route. Now, Murder levels ONLY GO UP throughout an unaborted Genocide Route. And the game CAN skip Murder levels since it keeps track of all the flags individually (Murder is just a variable the game uses for simplicity, the actual values are still there). Killing Muffet after killing 40 Hotland monsters won’t softlock you. However, due to an oversight in the game’s code, the mini-boss check is only run AFTER you fight NEO, and due to a bug, the game WON’T abort Genocide if you spare either the gays or Muffet IF you killed the previous encounter, so you can kill a Genocide NEO, setting you to LOVE 19, but then the game goes “Hey wait a minute, you didn’t kill everyone!” and so your Murder stays below 16, so you get the story of Asriel instead of Flowey’s depressing stories, you get Asgore and Photoshop Flowey instead of Sans, and Alphys says she wishes she had murdered you. The end. (Also, both times I just said “the gays”, I was refering to the Royal Guards. I just wrote “the gays” as a joke at first and it was really funny so I kept it) Edit: Wooow, who would’ve guessed a comment this long written by a mildly dyslexic person would have some typos. Yeah, I’m not fixing those for the most part because I’ll be honest I can’t even be bothered to read all that and I’m the one who wrote it. If any are pointed out, I might fix them, but I’m not just gonna, like, proofread it, and I kinda just wanna leave it as is.

“But hold on just a second!” Also him: proceeds to speak 22 more minutes about EXecution Points

In version 1.00, there was a glitch to get locked into true pacifist and still grind encounters in the core, so the highest lv you can get to in pacifist is lv 14*

Man, why so underrated?! Your videos have so kuch quality to them! Keep it up!

Aborted Geno - Or for Speedrunners like me: Neutral Glitchless (great video! :))

Because of this video, I just learned Sans has extra dialogue if you try to get his key off of Pacifist, where there’s dialogue for if you get judged, feel bad, and then lower your LV to 1 without also changing your EXP and kill count, one for LV 2 where he says no one gets to LV 2 and feels bad enough about it to stop killing people but not bad enough to reload, dialogue for LV 3 where he actually goes easy on you, dialogue for LV 4-9 where he says you MIGHT have done it in self defence since that’s about what you’d get if you did a Neutral playthrough, dialogue for LV 10-14 where he says you officially have an F in Mercy, and dialogue for LV 15+, where he basically calls you an evil mugger who should stop. He ALSO has hidden dialogue for getting judged, loading your game, killing someone, and coming back. This supposedly happens if you gain LOVE OR abort Pacifist.

absolute chad moment knowing about the Loox EXP thing

Another underated channel im good at finding these.

2nd fun fact: the pick on loox 3 times for 22 exp thing is also on ts!underswap, so, while you cant simply grind out 20 looxes because of the "5 kills per room" thing, you can try to kill as many looxes as possible

This was really cool!!

thanks for the video, you deserve more subscribers, this information is somethign that rarely some people will mention or pay attention, this video is amazing

Severely underrated channel. Watched the whole video :)

4:05 bro started looxmaxxing

'Hey there. Quick question. Have you ever heard of Undertale?' 'Haha! No' *leaves the video*

The highest lv in neutral is lv 19. Let me explain, you have to kill the royal guards and spare muffet. Since muffet is not a hotland or core enemy it aborts the route but killing 40 monsters in the core will still have mettaton neo set you lv to 19 sans doesn’t stop you as you spared the life of a single person so you do asgore fight with 92 hp

Your Dedication is underrated

Is anyone else using this just to make undyne easier?

YOU CAN KILL MULTIPLE GLYDES?! That would have been so helpful to know when I did this experiment a couple months ago

This video is straight up impressive.

the lv20 true pacifist speedrun category in question:

+ 100% respect for this video + 0.1% respect cuz of you challenging urself at undyne the undying - 0.1% respect cuz of no version label

Maybe you could do a challenge where you start off undertale with lV20 and you do a genocide run seeing how strong you get to LV40.

I tried this because I noticed a lv 11 Undyne the Undying Fight being noticably easier than a lv 10. Doing it at Lv13 was a joke, but I barely got a lv 13. '-' Also at Lv13 your natural defense is 3, compared to 2 at Lv 12, which changed the amount of Hits Undyne needs to kill you go from 5 to 6, i think. Depends on attack.

Glyde isn't a once ever ecnounter?! Great mic quality, fun video, good pacing! Thanks for the fun watch.

huh, i remember asking myself this same question a few years ago, and i ended up doing a run very similar to this! i found a reddit post with very similar information to this video to do the run. anyways, great video man, great editing, and also it's nice to see others answering my year old questions

This is great, I spent a while working on a video with this exact subject but was never able to finish it. Glad someone could do it :)

I actually would love to see the lowest EXP

Keep up the Grind man new sub!

That was a super epic idea very nifty content sir

Dusttale Sans be like:

This by far is one of the most interesting undertale video ive seen by far Like, level 8 ruins? what WHAT???

This video JUST made me realise it says experience point so you dont actually lose any exp when you fight napstablook

Loved the outro

* Human, I remember you're *min-maxed genocides*

Sans is just done at the end also your video is great! underrated for sure

Great video!

Fun fact: you can get 24 exp from loox, actually, but its more tedious to do, iirc, you have to pick on him 3 times, then dont pick on him 4 times, and pick on him 3 times, you get 24 exp

This is a very underrated RU-vidr

Fighting asgore at lv17 looks so wrong

interesting idea, good job

i love the effort you put into the video, new sub (do the challenge of low exp geno)

Since this is the concentrated killing of specific monster races, this is a lot more akin to a genocide than the actual genocide route.

me after finding out the monster populations only contained boss monsters NIGHT NIGHTS, FAT WHALES, AND MIKE MASOWSKIS, AND 1 SNOW DRAKE. AND ROYAL GUARD 01 and 02

good video but increase your mic vol for the next one along with lowering the background vol, the mad dummy song is like perfect vol

Yes, nothing is greater than nothing 12:37 Great vid tho

In this run, the player kills everyone in the underground, except for 2 gay royal guards. Based. I mean not really that based cuz like, mass murder but yeah whatever

This was a very fun video to see :P I’m now wondering, what’s the highest amount of EXP possible in the TS!Underswap demo? Can you get to LV 9 and fight Crossbones with an additional level? That might be harder to do because the game has a certain amount of kills per room so you can’t grind kills in one room. Also, if you leave the room after killing a monster it leads to a faster encounter rate, rinse and repeat the process (I learned that trick from watching Shayy).

Its a shame that a chanell like yours has only 54 subscribers

I love how he goes from better to worse to better to worse everytime he fights Glyde, based on his HP.

Someone show this video to Toby Fox

Great video (Sorry for that grinding section in snowdin) But next, you should cut the outro music

AMAZING

The fact that undertale videos still have a mass following despite being from smaller RU-vidrs fills you with determination.

I literally just realized that Snowdin is supposed to be a pun on "Snowed in"

So underrated hope you grow like a plant

W Andrew

2 minutes of walking per 1 glyde which is 30 minutes + time spent killing glyde around 1 min each 15 times. So 30 mins + 15 mins = 45 mins

You could do is the same charge in undertale yellow that would be a good idea keep up the good work❤❤❤❤❤

The royal guard bros when they're literally the only people alive

You know this is actually a sick tech for first time genocide players to farm glydes to make undyne die around 15% faster. That's a significant reduction in difficulty considering the worst patterns are at the end

It's so weird hearing "Too Much" during an actual fight

Great video I once had the thought myself and decided to try it but lost my patience at snowdin. I think you missed 42 exp at ruins, I have to test it again cause I did it a long time ago but it should work like the following: loox's exp starts at 7, "don't pick on" reduces by 2 if >4, "pick on" increases by 5 if

For a low lvl genocide run you need to kill specific monsters. (i have done this before) skip the first froggit in ruins and only kill whimsun. Whimsun gives 2xp. When the nobody came text comes you should be lvl 3 with 40 exp. Kill Toriel and go to snowdin. Entering snowdin with lvl 5 and 190 exp. Kill snowdrake and the dogs. We need to get to the bridge in snowdin. Cause we need to kill jerry multiple times. You will need to kill lesser dog for this though. Kill jerry 14 times and you will be lvl 7 with 414 exp kill papyrus and enter waterfall with lvl 8 and 614 exp. Kill only moldsmal in waterfall. Kill until you have 2 left. Once you do kill shyren and glad dummy. You will be lvl 8 with 714 exp. Kill undyne the undyning and you will be lvl 11 with 2214 exp. Kill only vulkins in hotland for 70 exp until you have 3 left. Kill R1 and R2 and muffet and you will be at lvl 14 with 4624 exp. Have fun

very nice vid :D

How do you have only 670 subs?!?! You looked like you had more! Anyway good video man!

You could skip the Snowdrake at the beginning of Snowdin, then kill 15 glyde, and encounter a triple battle against Snowdrake, Jerry, and ice cap.

Hey! Do you know about the "LVL 20 True Pacifist" glitch. With A LOT of grinding and some preperation you can get inf exp (or as high as it will go)

Fun fact: (not technically related due to Mettaton NEO being excluded) (Warning: this got kinda long because I’m not good at talking so I kinda foget how long a sentence should be sometimes. Sorry!) (According to the game’s wiki, this is untested by me because I lost my save data and also have never beaten Undying before) As long as you reach the Murder level for Hotland/The Core, you can spare the Royal Guards and/or Muffet and the game won’t notice IF you killed the previous monster, meaning you can get up to -Level- LOVE 19 on a Neutral Route. Luckily, the game knows you’ve aborted since it has a second Murder level system JUST for mini-bosses, meaning if you miss one, progressing will automatically abort the run. This is in some ways a good thing but in most ways a bad thing no Sans but yes Asgore and Photoshop Flowey. Also, extra fun fact! For some reason, entering a battle at -Level- LOVE 20 cuts your attack by 8 but in return raises your defence by *TWENTY-SIX* for some reason. Yeah, your base attack at LOVE 20 is 38, which is lowered to 30 in battles, and your base defence is 4, the same as level 17+ (OH MY GOD GUYS IT’S A WING GASTER REFERENCE IT’S THE SUPER LORE GET MATPAT OUT OF RETIREMENT ASAP!!!), but for some reason, this ALSO gets set to 30 in battles, making entering a battle at LOVE 20 make your defence raise MORE THAN TEMMIE ARMOUR WOULD for some reason. Because this game was made by a white dog who can’t sew using voice-to-text software with the help of a weird cat-dog-human thing who new him from a webcomic she liked.

6:03 bro's the biggest lesser dog hater

This is pretty impressive. I've been minimaxing my pre-Undyne encounters for a while now so that I could get the best possible stats for the fight and was surprised at how many of the techniques I was using overlapped with this vid. Good job. 🙂👍 Just out of curiousity though, do you think you could also try your hand at doing a _minimal_ EXP No Mercy run? That's something I've never personally optimized myself and I'm curious to see what that'd be like or what strategies you could use to achieve it. Could also lead to a pretty tough Undyne fight lol.