I saw my first Deltic when I was a small boy in the 60`s. Nothing can compare with the sight and sound of a Deltic going full belt. Thanks for the memories.
I went from York to Newcastle hauled by Pinza back in 1977, the name sticking in my nine year old memory than the fact it was a Deltic. Then in 1980 we had to stop at a level crossing near Morpeth with the windows down as it was a hot day and could hear the Deltic long before I saw it. The noise was amazing and I became a fan.
Takes me back to days heading off to Doncaster station as a lad. The mix of Deltics, class 37’s, 47’s and 20’s then a walk into the bus station for a mix of Guy Arabs, AEC Regent 5’s, Leyland PD 3/2’s. Kids just don’t have this today. They don’t know what they’re missing.
I travelled 6 times a year between Edinburgh and London between 1962 and 1967 to go to school. At the time I was disappointed that A4's no longer hauled the trains. The "turn a lever and go" Deltics seemed unexciting by comparison although they did make a good noise when they opened up after rolling out of the terminus.. I did go behind A4's between Glasgow and Edinburgh, where they were transferred to operate the 3 hour expresses. Class 40 (D200's) took over from Gresley Pacific's before the Deltics were introduced. They actually had less power than the Pacific's they replaced. As I recall the Deltics (D9000's) were retrospectively named after their introduction. The racehorse names were a nod to the naming of Gresley A3's and the racecourses along the East Coast mainline.
I am a former railwayman ! Many years ago I love these beasts ! & the class 40s Aswell my favourite deltic always was 55001 st paddy I had a foot plate ride Hexham to Newcastle 1981/2 long live the deltic said !
Twin Deltic s on a Ton-Class minesweeper were just as 'interesting' The only trouble was trying to get them onto the railway lines at Portsmouth Harbour station!
I have noticed several people from other countries make the comment we did build the best looking locomotives in the world. We did though didnt we? The Americans cant get the size of the loco to match the trains. These elegant Class 55s produced 3300hp and they date from 1962.
a deltic had trouble doing a ton? most have been known to do 115+ and there been storys of 125mph you shore that you are not thinking of a class 37 or somthing else
I didnt get out of bed the wrong side at all. If you read my reply you would have seen that there is no need for any "beans to be chilled". The bonnet front was an import from the US. It was found the bonnet "slowed down" the track visually, making it more comfortable to the eye. Remember; drivers were used to seeing a a boiler in front. US railroads massively influenced our own railway to the good. In fact the London Underground is an American Railway! As is the Liverpool underground.
The napier engines were originally designed for marine applications- fast torpedo boats, and as as such were originally rated at 2500hp EACH. For more arduous rail applications where it wasn't all constant speed running the engines would have had unacceptably short working lives before rebuilds became necessary so were derated to 1650 each for reasons of longevity, there weren't any limiters as such. top speed was governed by the gearing on the traction motors. too fast and you can fry them.
I was hauled by RSG in July from Doncaster to Devon... before the small fire, we were hitting 99.7 mph, and once the Duff went on the front, speed dropped due to missing our slot. On the return, double headed, we hit 99.8, and crested Lickey at around 30 mph with a good heavy rake on the rear. So no, there is no maximum permitted speed like 80, it would slow other traffic, and we would have made no progress.
You used to get a nice drone from Wakefield Westgate right up to beyond Lofthouse. I first heard 55013 on this stretch in the 1970's and it was mesmerising.
AFAIK the design speed was 105 mph max which they achieved and exceeded on a regular basis. according to one of the design team they had a factory fresh early production model up to 120.
great vid, fantastic loco. I was on the train, window behind the white and black intercity coach! pity i couldn't get further forward becuase of first class!
Oh I wouldn't dis the yanks mate, they've made some stunners themselves! You ever seen an EMD F7, FP45 or an E9?? The Deltic was styled with those in mind, not the other way around! Infact the first EMD F3's were built in about 1940!!
@MRT4472 happily: a Mk2A - like a Mk1 - comes with windows which can be opened and are slightly bigger, Mk2Ds are a bit like Mk3s, they are air conditioned and the windows are a bit smaller and can not be opened! Google them both to have an idea.
@brchtr002 this is how you find out the difference between Mark2's and Mark3's. Mark 2's are a bit more noisier then the Mark3's and the Mark 3's carriages have sort of like a box covering out materials next to the bogies. you get it? Now double check the video :D
@beeble2003 I've heard of preserved Spoons doing 100 mph so that won't be the answer, but I just assumed it went as fast at it could seen as there weren't any slow trains ahead of it, nor was it sent down the Down Slow
would love to know what the 4000hp deltic would of done if they had built it but Br again don't know what good for them and the hst come close to having the deltic engine in it also but was turned down dew to the high revving of the engine
@thebismarkandthehood Sorry? I take it you don't mean generally? Both in BR service and in preservation 100mph cruising was what they were designed for and would be reached pretty much effortlessly with any normal load where the line profile would allow it, unless of course the loco were running on only one engine or otherwise faulty. I won't talk here about just how often they exceed(ed) the ton. 55022 is more than happy to run at 100mph with load 13 plus a dead spoon!
Actually, it's only doing about 80mph. (From 0:26 to 0:33, 11 Mk3 coaches, which is 253metres of train, passes in 7 seconds.) Or is that as fast as they're allowed to go in preservation?
I dissed them? How? I am a big enthusiast of the US railroads but just look at the GG1 if you want ugly. You got hold of the wrong end of the stick mate. Phil.
I always wanted to know who styles modern trains, and why on earth they think any of them actually look good. Some are far worse than others, but I can't think of any of them except maybe Japanese "Bullet-nose" Shinkansens that look "good" like an old Deltic or EMD or something (let alone a steam loco). I mean "box on wheels"? Want to make it faster and more modern looking? Slope the flat front back and add a big rectangular pane of glass as a window...sex on flanged wheels man! Or not.
would love to know what speed they would of done with out the limiters on them do's any one know what the hp would of been with out the limiter i was told 4000hp but not shore they did have plans on building a 4000hp deltic but nether did
@brchtr002 I think the comment below stating it was doing about 80mph was a plausible answer. if you look at this vid, the Deltic is going MUCH faster then on your vid watch?v=7XzMyHG3PSo&feature=related Anyway, great vid. ;-)
That was what it was supposed to do according to British rail. But regularly exceeded that think the usual bout 115 on the flat one did 125 down hill hauling a regular train.
@@mrhornby8896 Nope. In the last year of BR service, drivers were given permission to open them up all the way on the track that was suitable for the new HST 125s, and it turned out that a Deltic pulled train was good for 125 mph in places.
@MrFlavioValentino mate, seriously, when have I EVER said that those carriages are Mk3 carriages, or WHAT makes you think after all these years of being a rail enthusiast that I need you to tell me the SODDING DIFFERENCE!?? And just in case you start explaining it all again: I (we all do, I suppose) KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A Mk2 AND A Mk3. Is that clear? Good!
