Deltic D9000 Royal Scots Grey is seen accelerating away from Beeston Castle, with one mk1 Buffet/kitchen coach in tow (test run for the coach). The first of 2 runs from Crewe to Chester and back. 13th February 2024
The Deltic is a magnificent beast, a machine that was worthy of succeeding steam. I say that as a steam enthusiast and with reverent respect. Great footage! Earth has too many people, not too many Deltics.
very true. i had the pleasure of riding the auld reekie in 2019 with tornado on the way up and alicydon on the way down. the sound and smell of the deltic is something i've only experienced once, but will never forget.
Too many people on Earth : we all know, but don’t say a word about that. It’s a dangerous and slippery field, you know. Who are those ones too many ?... Some have their more or less precise answer to this question, not only Russians who began attacking Ukraine nearly two years ago, but even in the most democratic countries like ours, and are getting ready for the next elections. This is no time for joking about that. Besides, the loc is impressive. Greetings from France.
I am glad I’m not paying for the lub oil for this beasty . This is what happens when the engine is old, worn and been on very light load for too long, it gets blown out after several minutes when on higher continues loading but that is when the silencer drum in the engine room burst into flames ! They always were heavy on blue smoke but nowhere near that example when I was a service engineer for E E Co at Leeds Central in the sixties, they were newer and better financiers then.
It's a shame they don't or can't modify the exhaust to drain the excess oil to a waste tank or something, I can imagine at some point they might be stopped from running if they can't control it.
I remember her thundering down the east coast main line when she first acquired this livery in the final year it's two and she looked very much like this. Walking back from school we'd see her pretty often. Added colour and excitement to the late years of childhood and early teens.
@@philclarke3203 very environmentally friendly - it’s good to see the loco returning the fossil fuels converted to simple molecules returning back to the environment, from where they originally came 10 points for you, Phil !🎉👍
Looked and sounded fantastic, but the exhaust is a cause for concern, it doesnt do the preservation movement any favours. Thanks for catching and uploading.
@@philclarke3203 see the illusion is you dont see the burning of fuel for electric but it happens , an electric car is far from emission free but as its in production its all ok lol.
I had a Ford Anglia that made white smoke like that. When I dismantled the engine I found that every piston had lost at least one piston ring. Maybe the Deltic has the same problem.
@@raybarnes630 Then again it's a diesel 2 stroke so it just takes up tons of air and fuel comes only at the combustion point, shouldn't be eating too much oil.
That's funny as until this week my BMW was doing a similar trick. Luckily solved the problem with high and low boost PCV valves. Thought I was looking at valve stem seal replacement or turbochargers.
Superb capture, many thanks for posting. Looked like she was on both power units, and on such a light load. This is the problem with the Deltics. They were designed to work on full power at high speed with a full load. when the pu's are under utilised such as in this situation, or when idling for a long time they produce this "clag". It is mainly caused, not by faulty engines as some suggest, but by accumulated oil in the exhaust system which is burned when power is applied. When you see a Deltic on full power with a full load the fumes, although still there, are vastly reduced from what you see here. (Don't forget these engines are 2 stroke). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uDm8oG1yB4Y.html
I couldn't have put it better :) It's also ironic that the opposed-piston design is clean and efficient in some respects, hence no black smoke (except when firing up).
its a 2 stroke mixture so yes that engine had idled coming to that bend and when it was opened up the oil was surplus and burnt, it was clean going under and away from the bridge . deltics were always like this
It’s a two stroke DIESEL!That’s not the same as a two stroke petrol engine. That’s vapourised diesel from exhaust build up causing the blue “smoke”. It’s the black smoke which is the nasty stuff;-full of dangerous particulates! We used Detroit two stroke diesels in powerboats,back in the day. They were powerful,but noisy and thirsty, but I don’t recall any of them kicking out too much smoke. Main problem was the throughput of warm diesel going back to the tank via the return line. It used to heat up the remaining diesel in the tank,and caused vapour locks in the feed lines. We cured it by putting coolers on the return lines,but not before it caused a few issues!
@@dennislane100 I have the original Napier engine brochures with data on lubricating oil consumption/passing. Oil is force fed to the pistons for cooling and lube. The piston design is unique to Deltics. It then passes out through the exhaust ports. Exhaust velocity drops in the collector-drum causing precipitation of lube oil during idling. It then gets blown out when the engine next revs up.
Nice to see still going strong as I used to drive it for Virgins Trains back in the 1990s from Preston over the Long Drag to Carlisle and I retired in 2007 also did a run from Carlisle via S and C to Blackburn and via Darwen ro Bolton with same loco and severely battered the inside of Sough tunnel when I opened her up after passing Darwen rear class 47 covered in muck blown off tunnel roof!!!! happy days folks.
@@philclarke3203 I think I should make it clear that I got the phrase " honorary steam locomotives (re. Deltics) from an article/ item in "Steam Railway" magazine. I didn't think of it myself.
@@catastrophic009 it’s nice, but it takes a lot of papers to roll them up and before smoking them and you need someone strong to hold it up and light one end😂
Still comments from some who appear to know little about these machines. Deltics are opposed piston engines so have double the number of pistons passing a little oil every stroke, Add in the three bank Deltic configuration and the operation at 1,200 or so RPM thats a lot of pistons (36 cylinders, 72 pistons) stroking every minute. So unless the piston liner, rings and piston ring grooves are all spot on in every liner you will get more oil passed than a EE, Sulzer, GM power unit etc . Power output will also alter the Deltic supercharger outputs so pootling at 25MPH tends to suck oil in through seals and labyrinth glands as their is little boost pressure. All this is collected in the drum which drains excess off but any left on the surfaces, carbon build up etc will 'burn off' when powered up. This is normal on any engine just more noticeable on Deltics due to the design and numbers of cylinders. Paxmans in the HSTs used to suck oil out at Stations and cover KX/Padd in blue on leaving.
'Wet stacking' is a well-known problem with big diesel engines run at light load for extended duration. I ran into this with a 70 litre Caterpillar V16 diesel driving a 2 MVA generator, it was much happier once we got a load bank connected to avoid running it unloaded (unusual intermittent load profile). The load bank also made for a good space heater...
similar but I believe its a common issue with the scavenger box collecting oil in the bottom and when you open the throttle fully it blows it all out the exhaust, it can also lead to exhaust fires, I believe they would stop in this situation and run the engine flat out until it burnt out, please quote me though if I am wrong on this, you can see them do this with Russian 2te10 's similar opposed piston engines with the same issue , you could say it a wet stacking issue I guess
British steam locos: run cleaner than most cars American steam locos: "lemme show those truck guys how you REALLY roll coal" British diesel locos: "Hey, wait, I'm going too! Let's teach Billyjoe Jimbob a lesson or two, ole chap."
What an amazing sound! This video should come with a content warning for Greenies. They're likely to have a heart attack just from the first scene. And I immediately had this vision of all these sheep on their backs with their feet in the air, overcome by the huge cloud of oily smoke as the train went past. It's certainly a very interesting engine note.
Those poor sheep! I could imagine their conversation: "Hey Eunice! Look! There's that crazy guy Howard driving his loud, stinky smoke machine around again!" 🤣🤣
@@philclarke3203 Ya nor wrong there I'm 61 now and we used ta travel all over UK I'm I'm Sheffield so we had that the Tinsley shunting sheds and of course Darby 😊
@@GlenB-qo7wd I'm 64, from Northwich, not too far from Crewe,and yes I travelled the country too, in those days . Got round many,many sheds, depots and yards, full of locos. Can't do that nowadays, even with what little is left.
Deltics do kick out a lot of smoke at startup... The three exhaust manifolds from the three banks run into a big collector drum and oil tends to collect in the bottom of this drum; when you give it some wellie it smokes it all out.
Another lovely video phil very good camera work as usual I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RU-vid bye for now Philip
Deltic escapes ULEZ celebrates with a “here’s what I think to it” signal. Engine needs a bit of TLC to cure/ improve? Nice to see in all its glory. Track at end is a bit of a roller coaster - some serious subsidence/ moles!
@@waldenhouse Yes, it tickles me how they turn a blind eye to the extra emissions things like the Heathrow expansion and all these rich space tourists create, it cancels out all the gains and sacrifices they force the rest of us to make, surely its nothing to do with money…
@@waldenhouseif they’re forcing us out of our cars and won’t tax the aircraft because they’re owned by the rich I’m not sure what the alternative is. They can’t put any more tax on the huge cost of train tickets.
A fantastic catch of Royal Scots Grey. Quite a show of power there too. (The Bridge sections are showing signs of needing raised and the track relevelled, but a great cache of views.) Nice one. I have wondered...can they not get new fuel injectors for these machines? That and maybe some suitable new piston rings? I dare say there are reasons why not but a great catch of a fantastic locomotive, sir. Cheers!
Back in the 60s there was a song called The Monster Mash . They will have to rewrite it for the beast of Deltics and call it Monster Thrash, at the beginning that was a monster thrash
great to see this locomotive running, but on how many gallons of OIL per mile? Don't let the followers of a smoke free climate see it!! Best wishes from Lincolnshire
they often do if idling as the oil is not being burnt off, then they open up and there is a surplus which gets burnt and produces that, notice the other side of the bridge it was as sweet as , it was up to speed and doing as it should. the deltics always smoked when idling , something they didnt and were not built to do really remember
That locomotive shouldn’t be anywhere near a railway line, it does the preservation movement no good. It’s not piling on the power with smoke like that.
