I live in the isle of mann and there are many unmanned crossings on both the IMR and the MER. I have always treated them as I would a road crossing as you could never know when an extra service can follow. Even in the UK, at a level crossing even when the barriers are up I still took in both directions. It's only common sense
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
It wasn't a 'key learning point' video, it was a train video that had an 'interesting moment' in it and like many thousands of tube vids it used that 'moment' for the title. Fortunately you saved me having to watch it all to find the gold tho 😂
First day on the Internet is it? Titles and descriptions aren't allowed to relate to the content now. If they do match you should like and subscribe immediately. You found a normal. Not many of them post ever unfortunately
To anyone that's knows anything about the railway a near miss is when some of a danger could happen like idiot's crossing infant of an heavy move train. They could of tried. Anything. That's the near miss. People think they didn't even seem to notice the train was even there. Its idiot's like that that cause all the accidents and problems on todays railways.
all of 10 metres away ,did those people STOP LOOK LISTEN ,NO THEY DID NOT,any one of them could have fell over or any other mishap ,DONT EVER WALK IN FRONT OF ONCOMING TRAIN .
Nice video, but I would hardly describe it as a near miss, it wasn't as if the train was doing 50 mph. I bet they jumped out of their skin when he sounded the horn...lol!
You leave emotional reaction behind when you step onto the footplate. The driver is just concerned for the safety of his train and the people on the crossing. It's what pilots call " the sterile cockpit principle". Don't get mad, just take a deep breath and focus! Thanks and blessings.
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
I have picked up quite a few pieces from the rail tracks around Sydney. I guess the trauma everyone else experiences isn't the first thing the jumpers think of. Removing legs from axles was not my favourite job before lunch.
Message to the stupid among you that think this is nothing. A train is not a car where you put your foot on a peddle to stop. read the comment before this of a gentleman that knows what he is taking about.
@@RTTVProductions Except the train was practically stationary when they crossed. Most people would have seen that situation and judged that there was more than adequate time to cross. Which there was.
The mysterious platform 2 at Battersby Junction you must be stood on.I have never seen anything use it but somebody once told me that the NYMR use it for loco run arounds when they run their specials between Grosmount and Battersby Junction usually using vintage diesels.
Yes... The line extends for a short distance past the station platform. This means diesels can uncouple, then run round via the other line - to position themselves at the other end of the train.
Yes used for loco run rounds, both on Nymr passenger trains( remember them? ) and loco and support coaches coming for galas etc to Grosmont. At one time the neck beyond the station ran to the ecml at picton as I recall
@@lesatkins42 correct; to the foot of the Ingleby Incline, rope-hauled to the top (known as Siberia!) then on the Rosedale Iron Railway (and briefly also to Farndale).
@@lesatkins42 only 3 lines met at Battersby. The line from Picton to Grosmont was the mainline, the 2 branches were to the Middlesbrough (now the main line) and to Rosedale.
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
The line is a dead end, so to exit it via the second route to whitby you must use the second train to pull the train, think of a letter Y, you have to pull into the bottom of the Y and pull back out the other fork.
On site, where the work is taking place to replace the ballast, it can head straight back out again in the other direction when the work is done or shunt on site without having to run the other engine round.
Its called Top and Tailing. Its so that you dont have to propel the train backwards, as this requires a man walking behind with a radio. The driver can just walk down to the 2nd engine and drive in the other direction.
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
Yeah I was going to say the very same thing but I think my friend is an HSE consultant ! He'll have them doing safety homework from the green cross code man !@@roachcatcher266
I love how the train staff pile out at Battersby to reset the points. And now they've got rid of the Pacers it is nice to use the line. Just enough time at Middlesbrough to nip across the station to get the return trip.😊
There's a youtube video, one of the NYMR training-type videos (I think) that shows what is involved in operating the points at Battersby. Sorry, I can't remember what its called now.
For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows 1 The stopping distance of the train? 2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos? People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
It looks a bit worse on account of the focal length in use, but if you look at the timing, it’s more than 30 seconds after the peds crossed over. Note that the minimum time for an automatic half barrier type crossing is 25s - so if it was one of those, it would be a non-event.
Near miss? Did I miss something? A little extreme given the train was travelling slowly and the pedestrian crossing and individuals had plenty of time, be realistic or just after clicks I wonder
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
Thank you. you seem to be one of the sensible people among the thousands of idiots leave replies on here. no wonder there is so many accidents at crossings these days. Thank you
Yes a near miss something that could happen even though in doesn't. The idiot's crossing could of fallen or anything and a train of that wait doesn't just stop like a car.
Title is misleading ("clickbait", as usual).. there is no near miss and no 'very unhappy driver'.. should be titled 'a train driver sounds his horn approaching a crossing'.
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
YOU NEED SOME SENCE OF SAFTY For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows 1 The stopping distance of the train? 2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos? People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
Message to the stupid among you that think this is nothing. A train is not a car where you put your foot on a peddle to stop it. read the comment before this of a gentleman that knows what he is taking about.
@@gregrsvr3947 Not to mention: * the missing article at the start of the first sentence * the double space in first sentence * failure to capitalise the start of the third sentence * ambiguous meaning of "before this" in the third sentence * erroneous use of the inanimate relative pronoun _that_ referring to a gentleman in the third sentence * misspelling of _talking_ in third sentence
If he thinks that's a near miss should of done the crewe/ holyhead run back in the 80s, section of line at Rhyl we called murder mile, the track split the caravan park and funfair and part of the fun for the kids was playing chicken crossing the tracks, used to just lay on the horn for the whole mile even at night though it made no difference.
@@itssteve1923 They had overbridges at the time but no one used them preferring to use the foot crossings, but I think your right that the foot crossings have gone completely so you have to use the footbridge.
The fact is, although it looked like the train was moving slowly it is extremely heavy and doesn’t stop instantly when you press the brake. Those older people crossing, one might have tripped and fallen, what if they had difficulty getting up ? Then what ? Risk assessment. The signs stay STOP when a train is coming for a reason. Just wait a couple of minutes, wow, not going to make your dinner go cold is it ? Muppets.
🤔Your probably right🤫In the old days we only gained 3 days as a depot spare driver, Now days they go off sick claiming STSD 🙄for weeks maybe months on full pay!🤑! If your a driver you expect this to happen sometime during your driving career, Just one of those things you have no control over as I had 3 before I retired😒.
A 'Near Miss' is a term used by the R.I.B & HSE and it would be used to describe what has been shown. As the driver you don't know what is going to happen next, the pedestrian decides to commit suicide, or another pedestrian in sheep mode decides follow the other two pedestrians and not get clear! Dependant on the speed of the train it"s braking distances can be around 1/4 of a mile, unlike a car stopping on a sixpence as perceived from a railway perspective. This is the real problem you have, some people don't get it locos have far greater stopping distances than cars nor realise the weight of the two locomotives. To prove a point & without looking on Google I wonder who can tell me what is the combined weight of the two locos?
Oh come on, that was a clickbait title! They should have waited yes, but that was far from a near miss. Even if the bobble-hatted lady had fallen and was trapped in the track, if that Class 56 dropped the emergency brake it would have stopped in about 3 metres, at that slow speed. Look at the distance between the train and the pedestrains, and look at the train's speed!!! 5:55 Good video but don't clickbait with the title please.
YOU NEED SOME SENCE OF SAFTY For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows 1 The stopping distance of the train? 2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos? People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!
HAVE SOME SENCE For those who those who say this a little over dramatised, I wonder if anyone knows 1 The stopping distance of the train? 2. Without looking on Google what is the approximate total weight of the two locos? People look at things through perspective of the car world which is totally different to the Railway world!
