LARRY!!!! You just solved my dilemma! I'm building a mannequin that needs to raise and lower his arm. I need high torque and very low rpm. The motor speed controller is perfect. Thank you so much for taking the time to upload this video.
Happy that this helped you. I use this set up to power my swamp monster that raises up and down under a bridge in the haunted forest. The body of the prop is made from 1 inch PVC pipe so it is relatively heavy. I have not had any problems with the wiper motor powering this prop.
I’m 76 yrs old, and I would appreciate a simple drawn diagram with red to red, and black to black also showing the battery connections. I’m trying to control the speed on a 12v computer fan so I can sit outside in the evening, enjoy a beer, and stay semi-cool in the Louisiana heat. Thank you.
While there are 4 connections you only wire the controller to the Hi RPM connection on the wiper motor. Once this is done the controller will allow you to sun the wiper motor from low to hi speed. There is no control of the park or intermittent functions of the wiper motor.
Shane, I'm not confident that a phone wall charger will work to operate a wiper motor. It would not only need to put out 12v but also need to provide 5 amps to power the motor.
Steve, wow...that is a lot of information. I don't actually know what to tell you but I suspect this little wiper motor would not have enough power to move that much weight.
Julio, sorry I have been so long getting back to you. I don't check my channel very often unless I am posting something. I thiks this set up would work very will for what you want to do.
Hi Larry Excellent Video - appreciate the information. I'd like your feedback on a few questions if possible. I am trying to build a self contained electric tug to move a 2K lb aircraft both forward & reverse. Am wondering if the motor is wired on the low rpm side with a motor controller, reverse polarity switch and a 12V 18amp drill battery with a roller wheel attached to the output shaft it would have enough torque to move the aircraft. Once the aircraft starts to move it is relatively easy to continue the movement as long as there is enough torque. Downward pressure on the roller wheel from a tow bar would supply the friction leverage. Thoughts?
Great job and great demonstration. Can you provide a link to the power supply. Many power supply out there are for LED lighting (even though they are 12V, 6A). They burn out pretty fast. Also what car is that motor from?
Wishwa here is the link to the power supplies I use. www.ebay.com/itm/12V-5A-60W-Power-Supply-AC-to-DC-Adapter-for-5050-3528-Flexible-LED-Strip-Light-/253152922359?var=&hash=item3af1170af7. They actually are power supplies for LED lights. I have been using them for several years and none have burned out yet. I did get one order of 3 power supplies that the power supplies simply would not power the wiper motor. These were a different model number (LY1205) than I usually buy. I checked them and none were not putting out 12 v or consistent 5 amp power. But I have bought several of the above model number power supplies (WT-5000) with no issues do date. However be sure to check them right away after you receive them to be sure they will power your motor. You can also get the power supplies from Monster Guts but they are significantly more expensive. I order my wiper motors from Monster Guts. They last ones I ordered last year were about $24 plus shipping. These are new and I found that used ones from our local auto salvage yards were the same price so I decided to buy the new ones...no brainer I think. Their website does not specify what vehicle they are designed for. There is also a reply on this question below that Farshead68 had. Good luck with any project you are doing.
Jeff, any of the 12v 5 amp power supplies should work as long as they will consistently put out at least 5 amp. If they don't put out at least 5 amps they simply will not power the wiper motor.
Jeff, not it is not the very same model number that I have been using but I bet it will work. Just be sure to check it when you get it to be sure it actually does put out 12 and 5 amps.
Sorry but I am not familiar with an auto cutoff switch. Wiper motors have a park mode where the motor will stop and then start again with the next trigger.
Great set up and explanation Larry. Can you give the specifics of the components ie. brands, specs, etc. I am building a hanging man and several other props and would like to be able to save some money without having to buy complete kits. Thanks!!!
farshead68 Sorry this reply is so late. I'm not on this site very often. Just search ebay for the following. For the power supply search for 12v 5a 60 watt power supply AC to DC adaptor for 5050 3528 flexible LED light strip. For the motor controller search for PWM DC motor speed control 6 amp 12-24 volt 13 khz controller switch. For the pig tail wiring search 2.1 x 5.5 mm DC power socket jack.
JC, the bracket is just a chain link fence post bracket that you can find at about any hardware store. I buy mine st Lowes. It is just the right size to hold the wiper motor.
Great tutorial Larry, thanks for sharing. I was googling about for help with powering a motor, it's a 12V 5A.. would prefer to plug it in rather than use batteries, the above set up looks ideal.. what you think? thanks.. :)
Hate to ask..do you have any links on the speed controller and power supply you bought off eBay? Or at least the names of them? Trying to build the same thing for a Halloween prop and this would be ideal
dblack, sorry I don’t have a link to this specific motor controller. I just checked and it appears neither eBay nor Amazon still carry it. However, you can search either site for 12-24 volt PWM motor speed controller and several will come up. Any will work. I just bought this one because it was enclosed in a case. But you don’t need to buy any expensive one. I wouldn’t pay more than $10 at the most. Also, you can find them on monsterguts.com. In fact they actually have the complete setup as a kit now.
Robert Freemond there is plenty of torque to run any prop that you want. I have used it to lift a 7 ft swamp monster made out of 1 inch Pvc pipe 3 up and down for over two hours non stop.
Robert, I really don't know how much torque the wiper motor puts out. But it is strong enough to work all my DIY animatronics including an 8' swamp monster that is made out of 1' PVC pipe, covered with a camo fabric and moves up and down for a distance of abut 12".
I’m going to use this to rotisserie a hog, do you think the motor looses any torque power with a speed control on it, because I was looking and chains and sprockets to reduce the rotation, but this might be better if it doesn’t loose turning power but just slows down.
David, the power converter is just a 12 volt 5 amp converter the same as for a laptop. I don’t have a link but I just searched eBay for “12v 5 amp power supply”. I am assuming the “ little box” you referred to is the motor controller. Again I don’t have a link but just search eBay for a “12-24 volt motor controller”. Also, you can go to monsterguts.com and purchase these parts but they will cost a little more.
RID1 I'm not quite sure the amp input on the motor controller but I believe the power supplies I use are rated at 5 amp. Also, the motor controller is rated for and can be used on either 12 or 24 volts. I have never had any issues with it not working properly on any prop I have made.
@@larrygiggy6871 Thank for responding, so many people are getting these to work off 5A and I'm not. Im starting to wonder if the motor is my issue. Im using a 7Ah battery as power supply, everything else will not power the motor.Maybe battery is too high powered, I'l see if I can find a genuine 5A power supply but here in Africa we are flooded with cheap chinese products. The 10A power supply I have right now cant power the motor.
@@rid1coza ok try this website. monsterguts.com. Look under the drop down menu and click on electric motors. They sell a complete setup with the wiper motor, power supply and speed controller for around $70 us that might be best for you to use. It is the same set up I use except for the motor controller. I like the one I get from eBay better because it is enclosed in a plastic case that makes it a little more moisture proof as my haunt is outside on 10 acres and sometimes it rains. I also get my power supplies from eBay because they are somewhat cheaper but you do have to be careful which one you get as some from China don't put out the correct power. Also, I do get the wiper motors from monsterguts.com. I buy two at a time to save a little on shipping. I hope this helps.
@@larrygiggy6871 Thanks for all your efforts in responding to me, RU-vid for some reason has not notified me of any of your responses? Had I previously known about that monsterguts site I would've bought from them knowing that this is what they specialise in and their parts would definitely work together. Will keep it for future reference. THANK YOU I've received my 60A PWM controller from Amazon today , made by DROK, also purchased a new motor locally today. I'll see if i can get a supply like yours at the local gadget shop tomorrow , i think the battery may be too powerful causing these controllers to burn up everytime. FYI, not using this for props, Halloween is not celebrated in South Africa really, this is more for the sake of experimenting since I saw videos on how wiper motors can be reused. Once i've got it going properly, I'll figure out a use for it!
@@rid1coza Glad to help where I can. As I recall now that motor controller I use is rated at only about 5 amps so if you happened to use a car battery to power the wiper motor it will certainly send more than 5 amps through the controller even though it will be only 12 volts. That's why I have been using those 12v 5 amp 60 watt ac adapters for power like the ones used to provide power to laptop computers. I have burned out one controller when I connected a vehicle battery to the circuit. And yes there are lots of neat things that can be done using wiper motors. They are lots of fun to work with. Hope you have good luck with any projects you do. I'm certainly not an expert on this but please contact me if I can help further.
Not unless it puts out 12 v and at least 5 amps of power. I don't know of any phone chargers or wall warts that have that output. My Iphone charger only puts out 5.3 v at 2 amps.
Frank, I don't see why this motor controller would not work on a single speed wiper motor. The wiper motors I use are only two speed, high and low. I just wire the power source and controller to the high speed side of the wiper motor. So in effect it is working on only one speed setting which seems this would be the same as a single speed wiper motor.
great vid, thanks. Curious on strength for this kind of set up. in terms of resistance. in other words how heavy an object could this move (depending on levers of course) before it jams up?
I have used this set up on several props...full size wooden coffin lids, pirate rum barrels, even a 7 foot tall swamp oger that rises up and down from under a bridge in our forest as well as several other props. I have never had any problems with the wiper motor not being able to work because of not having enough torque. I did have one issue with the teeth on the arm that attaches to the motor stripping out on one prop. But that was due to me using an aluminum fabricated arm rather than steel. The metal teeth on the wiper motor had no issues.
@@larrygiggy6871 that's great to hear, looking around for parts as we speak. i'm in Canada so some of the companies you guys use are simply too costly due to shipping costs. If anyone knows a good place to order from in Canada please let me know
@@larrygiggy6871 also, is your wiper motor from a car or did you buy directly from prop store? when looking for wiper are there things to consider or are all wiper motors pretty much the same?
The wiper motor is a vehicle wiper motor but I buy them from monsterguts.com. I can actually but these new motors a little cheaper than what I can get used here in Missouri from an auto salvage yard. I usually buy 2 at a time because the shipping is only slightly more to ship 2 rather than 1.
Yes you do not need the speed controller. Just hook the power supply to the motor. If you hook up to the low speed on the motor the motor will turn slowly. If you hook it up to the high speed connection on the wiper motor it will turn at the high speed.
Dragana, yes the power supply with work without the motor controller. The speed of the rotation of the wiper motor will be determined on if you wire the power supply to the HI or LO speed side of the wiper motor.
You don't need all 4 wires, you need to find which two wires are for POWER and use only those 2. I have 5 wires - Red, Black, Green, Yellow and White. My power Wires are the yellow and green, the rest are not needed, Hope that helps. You need to search for a wiring diagram for the wiper motor of the make of car it came from, mine came from MK1 VW golf.
No I don't have a link to the motor controller. I bought it from ebay but now I don't see this specific motor controller but there are several that are basically the same thing. The only difference is they do not have the plastic case. Just do a search on either ebay or amazon for a 12v - 24 v motor controller. Several will come up.
Bhaun, the cost breakdown is..Motor Controller $10, Power Supply $8.00 and the wiper motor was from Monster Guts and was $22 plus shipping as I recall.
Gilbert, I tried to upload the wiring diagram for the motor controller I use but was not successful as the photo was too large to upload. This particular motor controller has the wiring diagram printed on the case but here is how the wiring is hooked up. The motor controller has 3 wires, black, red, and blue. The wiper motor will have 2 wires, a positive and a negative. The 12 v power supply will have 2 wires, a positive and a negative. You should connect the positive on the wiper motor to the hi speed connection. You can find this by connecting the wiper motor directly to the power supple and experiment until you find the high speed connection. Once you have this connection here is how to connect the motor controller. The blue wire from the motor controller goes to the negative wire on the wiper motor. The red wire on the motor controller connects to the positive wire on the wiper motor and is spliced to also connect to the positive on the 12 v power supply. The black wire on the motor controller connects to the negative wire on the 12v power supply. Other motor controllers will likely have different colored wires so this may not help much but I would guess that any motor controller you buy will have instructions and a wiring diagram with it. The motor controller I use came from ebay. It does not have a brand name on it. Just search for a 12-24 volt 5 amp motor controller and any will work.
It really doesn't make any difference where you connect the positive and negative to the wiper motor. If you have them reversed the motor will just turn backwards. For the motor controller there is a small schematic on the controller case with connection instructions.
Farshead68, The wiper motors I order from monsterguts.com for about $23.00 plus shipping. I get the motor controller from ebay. Just search for 12v-24v 6A PWM DC motor Speed Control. Item #is 250943378758. They are $8.99 including shipping. The power supply I use is also from ebay. Search 12v 5A power supply item number 141439295190. They are $8.95 each. You will also need a pigtail to connect the power supply to the motor. This also came from ebay. Search 10 X12v DC pigtail Female 5.5*2.1 MM, item # 391344968968. They are #.55 including shipping for a package of 10. Hop this helps
Jeffrey. I use this set up for several animated props. Actually on anything that I want to be able to control the rotation speed of the motor more than just on the HI or LO setting of the motor itself. I have use it on my drunk pirate on a barrel to rotate him slowly around, to slowly open and close the lid or my animated coffin, and may other props
Sorry to disappoint you. The video was only made to show how the motor controller can be used to control the speed of the wiper motor, not how to build or set anything up.
I should. You need a power supply that will supply 12v and at least 5 amps. If the power supply doesn't consistently provide at least 5 amp even thought it provides 12 v it will not power the wiper motor. I know this from experience as a couple of the power supplies I bought would not power the wiper motor. A check of the power supplies showed that even thought they were advertised as 12v 5 amp they did not put out the necessary 5 amps.
Nebojsa, the motor controller has a diagram on it of how to wire the motor, controller and power supply. Here is the wiring design. The motor controller has a red, black, and blue wire coming from the controller. From the power supply (either a battery or as I use a plug-in power supply) connect the negative of the power supply to the black wire from the motor controller. Connect the positive lead from the power supply to the red wire from the motor controller. You will also connect the positive lead from the motor to this red wire from the motor controller. Connect the blue wire from the motor controller to the negative lead from the motor. That is all there is to it. It is very simple, cheap and works really well for this application.
