Very useful. I’m 95kg and was struggling with my standard wingfoiling Fone kit. Upped my foil to a 1300 Seven Seas and using an overhead swim technique I got on my 54l rocket wing S, and it was easier than the wider bigger rocket 75l rocket wing which I prefer for winging. Glad I don’t have to buy a new board! The 54l carbon rocket wing s cost me £2k and it was too small for my weight winging to be fair….but is going to turn into a great foil drive board it seems….
Thank you! I normally hybrid wing on my 75L board and FD+. While on vacation, I've been hybrid proning with it. I watched your video this morning, and it inspired me to try my 25L winger board. Success for me and a friend!! We had a great day in very small swell.
@Foilfun 😀 amazing! I share your experience! Even with the Sky Surf TE coming from 75l. I wanna add that if you needed to get up on flatwater, without a wave that's pushing you, than the Sky Surf has a lot of rocker which makes it plow/push a lot of water. I am using a 25l Duotone Pace 4'6" from 2019 ..flat..no rocker..mind blowing easy take off.😉🤜🤛
Very helpful! At 100kg, it's great to see a fellow big dawg on small boards and foils with the FD Gen 2.Thanks for all great information and getting a head of the opinion train.
Super helpful and great job setting expectations. So glad you didn’t have 65kg person demonstrate all that and left me wondering if it would work for big guys.
We're all for real world examples and providing content for a range of riders both physically and from a skill level perspective. Glad you found it useful!
🙏helped me a lot in the beginning. Now I've figured out that on a smaller board it helps while doing the double arm strokes to gently press your feet down on the water surface to help control the pitch in a good flat angle (like you'd do on a boat with trimming the motor😊) And, mounting the system further back in the tracks will make you plane more easily BUT when free foiling might be off centre, weird feel. The further you mount it forward in tracks the harder you get it on a plane, but you may find the sweet spot somewhere along the "road"😅. So some playing around with the mast position can help. thanks for making Foildrive 😀
I’m just getting up and started at the back. When it gets up it feels very floppy (weird!). I don’t use my feet as trim, I bring them up to my back to shift my weight even further forward! 😂
@jimheaven interesting! Also what you write about your smaller board. I had the same surprise. With my 45l Sky Surf from Duotone. Now I found out that my old Kitefoil Board works best. It's only 25l 4'6". But it's flat!! Very little rocker. And it makes the big difference! Even in cruising while waiting for a windswell to steepen up in Downwinding...it's so mellow! Not so much forward pressure needed. With 82kg I get up on a 850cm Frontwing. Loving Foildrive ❤️ 😆.
Some tech interest there for me. I wing surf, 3D print last 13 years since I designed my first 3D printer motherboard and wrote it's software and all the wings I ride are my own designs. So very similar skill set, including I spent many years designing RC jet boats and jet units using brushless motors. I'm 115KG and so it's interesting to see it lifting you with various non beginner foils. I'm pretty happy with the winging coming from wind surfing and kite boarding but it's nice to see discussion of your "pre-spool" (folding prop would be a big point of difference vs fixed there) I've seen what I think are some fairly recent units, if you aren't yet moulding them, I'd suggest a medium hardness polyurethane 2=part resin. I suppose the 3D prints are adequate if not exposed to shear forces against the layer adhesion, PETG+ is pretty awesome to work with, has a bit of shrink but the adhesion is great and if you print it in white, much better temperature stability than PLA. There are some tricks in my wings that are being adopted by a few other companies for the outer wing profiles that affect stall angles after I linked some old but very inspired wing research on kite forums back in early 2021. The controller location vs the water is also interesting. With lots of cheap chipsets embracing radio inc ESP32 series with wireless and bluetooth and Arduino and LORA, that's an area I haven't experimented with under water yet. Ultrasonic might be an option too. The big trick with radio is FM and phase locked loops, I'm sure it can be adapted to ultrasonic and foils aren't noisy, so long as your prop's ballanced I guess the motor vibrations up through the mast aren't too bad? It's convenient that the maximum mast vibrations near the motor under load will be absorbed by the water around the mast.
Great stuff. Thank you. This is "super" helpful for prone surfers, and pump foilers, down winders. I'm guessing it's a bit different for wing foilers as we need at least one hand on the wing unless we are being really fancy. I am not fancy yet. In watching this, I think really low volume sinkers (volume for one's weight), long boards are not a go unless you're using straps even though the Gen2 Max has the power to get you flying. I'm starting on a 6' 2" x 21" 100 liter that should be cake and have an 85 liter 5' 6" x 26" (traditional wing board) and will be curious about how technique evolves with FoilDrive users and wings.
At "41 minutes 35 sec you introduce a 5'8" 30 liter foil board which i have since identified as a TWIG Pro Model. I was very impressed how you were able to ride it with the "foil drive". They don't make these boards any more. Is there any manufacturer out there making similiar boards?
I noticed you changed the foildrive and mast from one board to the other at 29:14 without it coming apart. How do you keep the mast and foildrive system from not coming apart? Thanks
Hello.... i tried to reproduce your technique on a 60 liter board, however the foil drive didn't deliver enough power to get me up. Therefore, Im wondering if the "app" was set differently than yours for this activity. Can you please post your settings that you used on the "remote" and /or app, so I can reproduce your results?? Thank you
It's a pretty amazing sport to get into! Gear really depends on how deep you want to dive starting out! We recommend second hand gear or heading to a local foil dealer near you to try demo gear or take a lesson! There's a lot of options on the market in terms of foils and board, depending on where you're located as well. Here in Australia a Foildriving setup (motor included) can be anywhere from AUD 10000 - 15000 - If you haven't tried it lessons and demos are a great way to get a taste for the sport. You can find all of our Foil Drive dealers here if you're keen! foildrive.com.au/pages/dealers
haha the best tool in the shop! It's a Makita TD022D www.totaltools.com.au/143646-makita-7-2v-2-x-1-5ah-impact-driver-kit-td022dse?srsltid=AfmBOorylcnYZYF4cFSor0yQF2yxjvkO6r3NjSh194TCxMIeOngrntpLI28
My Foil Drive Gen 2 arrived a couple of days ago. Not yet got it in the water. I think post this there’s a video re the controller settings and how when the controller gets in the water the prop will stop (sensible safety). So if on a small board, where you need to keep the controller on the board to transmit, won’t the both front arm swim stroke to get a boost, stop the motor?
The Gen2 system allows the rider to change the latency in the app. this is the time it takes for the controller to "cut out" and stop the motor. More info here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o60V_-4efV8.htmlsi=eYF51RWyVb5jlxqy
Genial el vídeo! Me surge una duda, piensas que una tabla con menos volumen y un poco más larga, sería más fácil despegar que con una mas corta pero con más volumen? Yo estoy en tu rango de peso y con una tabla de 80 litros 5,3' no consigo coger velocidad y he siguiendo todas tus indicaciones... Tabla plana, peso adelantado...
@foildrive 2 months ago haha the best tool in the shop! It's a Makita TD022D www.totaltools.com.au/143646-makita-7-2v-2-x-1-5ah-impact-driver-kit-td022dse?srsltid=AfmBOorylcnYZYF4cFSor0yQF2yxjvkO6r3NjSh194TCxMIeOngrntpLI28
On all of these, Paul used a 25cm Gen2 stator cable setup. I think that is the distance from the top of the mast's base plate to the center of drive (center of propeller.) If you want the length from the board, you need to know the height of the battery box. I am not sure what those are for the Max and Slim. This video has more info - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aqdWWU4CELQ.html