Yes indeed. But also i think there is another layer. I dont think JD likes shouting ,screaming, aggressively violent typen of conflict but i think he is a debater, a verbose speaker and an intellectual who probably does not mind having a linear intelligent discussion and accepting and listening to someones reasonable and rational side of things and wants to be able to say his peace which he was unable to do with someone like Amber. And in a way in cross you have to do yes or no answers...you cant elucidate.. or defend yourself in any way...expound on your answer and it triggers the ptsd of never being able to defend yourself in your past conflict situations which im sure he has from way back in childhood and of course with Amber. So i think he feels backed into a corner and almost tricked on the stand. I am similar and its also from being around overbearing people in childhood where i couldnt debate my case so to speak and also in my dv situation. So i totally relate to that and also as someone with ADHD as we often as neurodivergents have a harder time being succinct (as my comment probably shows lol 😎😏). Whereas Amber seems to enjoy the challenge andis happy to just go around in circles. But I think thats why rather than frustrated during cross ex she just clearly gets angry.
Dennison deserves more love! He isn't excessively combative, he is respectful, he has the one liners, and he is good at putting pressure on the witness without being rude. I think Dennison did great
I agree I found his crosses to be so precise, methodical and so natural, he was 100% confident and to the point, you knew he was going somewhere when asking questions
How could she say she could leak things in a much more proficient way - but in the same breath say she wouldn’t know how to leak data 😳 I’m so glad Camille asked it straight away!!
Also, in UK trial - and video with this part is submitted into evidence - she said that TMZ had been notified, so even if it was not her, she knew they knew. Another lie.
“What actual survivor of domestic violence wants that!” EXACTLY AMBER! BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT A SURVIVOR NOR VICTIM OF DV!!! You brought this upon yourself!!!!
That comment stuck with me, too. Guarantee it at LEAST stuck with one of the jurors. If you believe she tipped off TMZ (which, clear evidence she did) by her OWN account there’s no way she could be a victim of domestic abuse. That was about the 50th nail in her coffin for me lol
She said she "can't have a career" because of attacks?? What lol...her career is over because of her Lies & now admitted panic. Nobody Will Ever Take a Chance, except I think she will be offered X-Rated films. Now they would take a chance for many reasons!!
Lets be honest, no one is attacking Amber heard because of what Johnny's lawyer said in some article, people are pissed because they have seen through her lies. She has finally been caught. SHE HAS MADE HER BED, LET HER LAY IT IN. I have zero remorse for someone who started this whole charade on her own. She should have taken her 7 mill divorce settlement and moved on with her life, she wouldn't be sitting in a courtroom right now had she done that.
Nope. Hearing her saying she noticed Johnny’s patterns and it was an emergency for her to intervene was infuriating after we’ve listened to the audio between them.
I was thinking the same thing! It's always her supposedly telling, oh no not telling, KNOWING that she's right and the other person is wrong... even if she'd taken hallucinogens, magic mushrooms, smoked weed AND consumed alcohol, but SHE remembers exactly what the stone sober driver remembers! Such a farce!
Camille is brilliant. She practically demonstrated in real time, Amber's inability to just let it go, and know when you have lost this argument. Because I could feel, and I think that the jury could too, that were it not for the fact that it's a courtroom, Amber would have been following Camille from room to room shouting, banging on the bathroom door. And it even felt like, if the jury was close enough, she might have reached out and struck someone. you felt it, you felt her rage, and saw the surface of a mirror of how a depp/heard argument progressed.
I noticed when certain people were testifying, her lawyers got real close to her like they were trying to prevent her from going into full-on rage... like they knew she was triggered. I noticed this mostly yesterday. They knew if she ever turned loose the jury would see her in action and know without a doubt that she was the abuser in this relationship and set out to destroy him. The op-ed was only a part of what she's tried to do to him. I hope justice is served in this case.
My take. They put Johnny on the stand yesterday as a ploy. They knew, by doing so, that Amber would demand to get the last word and have her ‘moment’ like Johnny did. He didn’t need to go back on and almost seemed a little unprepared. They set her up for this cross and she (and the lawyers) took the bait. Well done!
She's hurt survivors in so many ways, but hearing her say that she has PTSD but just managed to basically 'pull herself up by her bootstraps' is so damaging. I can barely leave the house most days and for decades I internalized a message similar to what she is saying. It's caused a lot of pain and shame in my life. Overcoming mental health is not just pushing through as she is claiming. It's working with what you have and seeking support. That last day insult cut deep. I also have BPD and it's manageable with help. I hope she is able to get the help she needs.
I've done the exact same thing with my PTSD I have to try to just keep going regardless of how I feel otherwise I'd have no life at all. Some days or weeks I just can't do anything because I'm life seems so fkin hard now. I believe Amber.
@@chiquitafeldberg8512 1st please understand - I am not in anyway challenging you. I so glad you found what works for you. However, whatever coping skills each person finds to live the best Life they can (e.g. for PTSD) EMDR Therapy, Rx's, Counseling, Spiritual Beliefs, Specific Mental Techniques (e.g. mental imaging, progressive relaxation, mantras, etc). I use all of the above but I still have times when I can't function. I, personally, have trouble with Amber on both Personal & Professional levels. The way she is throwing the PTSD around bothers me. Her statements about things about her life don't fit. Some other things are NOT factors that she claimed. Curry's tests & assessments are the accurate ones. Dr. Hughes is not accurate on the "Testimony Level". She also was Very Wrong in using the wrong pronouns describing DV & IPV.
@@chiquitafeldberg8512 thank you! Sometimes I feel like I’m the crazy one or I’m lying or faking how bad I can get. I and many people in my family have PTSD (some fleeing from war, having seen and experiences horrific things that I can’t even say here) and we just kinda get on with it. Not saying there aren’t days were I simply can’t cope (recently has been very hard for me). Some comments that I’ve been seeing recently has me really questioning my various diagnosis. I’m not housebound or in a constant state of breakdown, I can actually talk about many of the things I’ve been though in great detail without crying etc (and so can many in my family). And I’ve never had any therapy aside from what was needed to get diagnosis. But I manage.
100% agree with you and struggle daily with my issues. Leaving my house is very difficult despite seeing psychiatrist for years and being medicated. Lost car, lost my job, all my retirement, etc... I am not saying people cannot heal and cope better than me but with "her history" she is a Wonder Woman if she has had no change in her lifestyle. All IMHO.
Yup! There's a saying that goes a little something like...When a narcissist no longer has control over you they will start to control the way others see you. I think it explains the entire situation perfectly. When JD had enough and walked away AH started a public campaign to make the public hate him.
I said it in my own comment today, but Amber _needs_ to have the last word, and Camille proved it. I'm convinced they had Johnny up yesterday to bait Amber into doing it today. And it worked.
Therapist here...to be fair, Dr Currie diagnosed other Cluster B personality disorders (Histrionic and Borderline) but *not* Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They overlap significantly, but Camille walking away is more likely to trigger the abandonment in the BPD and grandiosity in the HPD than narcissistic injury.
No tears. Amber is now using this trial to manipulate her friends and everyone around her because she has "fake triggers ". She needs to stop. She needs help.
It's been clear for some time now that AH is used to bossing around her gaggle of sponge loser friends and sister. They committed perjury for her and have now removed her from their lives.
Childhood abuse a big factor, Dr Currie’s diagnosis points to PTSD from childhood. AH definitely needs help as I’m sure her sister does too. Are these accusations from AH misdirected?? Perhaps a different older male in her life at fault, look into her history and you will find answers I’m sure of that. My own mother developed MPD from childhood trauma, protection mechanisms learnt from a young age kick in.
I think AH's acting coach's testimony about her having trouble shedding tears when acting should come up in closing, as she did not shed a single tear on the stand while "crying".
Amber's constant committal to sticking to basic facts that are clearly incorrect - what looks like "holding her own" - is such a classic display of gaslighting. She can't make a mistake, will weasel around truth, sell you a totally different story about something you can see with your eyes, fight you on it, and make you feel nuts. She doesn't back down, but I don't think that's a good thing. It just shows what he/others lived with.
As a bartender, I have seen many broken liquor bottles. They break into chunks and shards. A handle bottle breaks into chunks of glass, and are quite thick and heavy. IMO it happened just like Mr. Depp testified to.
If people don’t like you because of something you said or did, you have no right to play victim. She didn’t care when it was Johnny being attacked and cancelled.
Depp appeared in a satanic movie directed by a convicted child rapist. He campaigned on behalf of the west memphis satanic child murderers (they did it) and he fronts a band called the hollywood vampires. Wow does he have a good publicist. Either that or his supporters are REALLY dumb.
She never cared. She has it on audio that she hits but every time they talk about her abusing him she pulls the he's the abuser, drug addict, crybaby one in the relationship
to a point i agree but the threats about her child and death threats are well outside the boundaries of what society deems acceptable behaviour people need to reel it in a tad, so shes a lier! her punishment of losing public respect and likes should be apt punishment right?
I love how she doesn’t cry about the abuse but she cries about the effects that this whole case has had on her. You’d think she would be upset about both and probably the abuse more
Dr. Hughes Understood her Assignment... Diagnose Amber With PTSD. And she rushed to do it with checklists, Never thinking for one second anyone would question her professional opinion. I bet she has done this many times in the past. She's like Amber, she got caught this time!
Also, just the fact that she keeps on calling her "Shanon Curry" instead of "Dr. Curry" while harping on how much better she is because she is board certified. Just disgustingly petty behavior from a "professional" in a serious legal matter.
The reason why JD was put on the stand for the second time was to goad Heard into wanting to testify AGAIN and be crossed by Camille AGAIN which was absolutely devastating. JD's attorneys are top notch. Brilliant.
As a clinical psychologist, I would NEVER submit a form that is incomplete. That's just unprofessional, regardless of the fact that it is going TO THE COURT!?!?! Goodness.
@Terry K that's understandable for during the assessment but once you've finished and submitted it to the legal team, you would want it to be completed in all areas. Even when writing paper notes we are supposed to rule across to the end of the page if you finish your notes halfway along a line so that no one can add something in and imply you wrote it. Blank sections on assessments isn't a good look, whether you are planning to fill them in later or not.
Haha yeah, they tried to add Spiegel as an IPV expert because Hughes was a disaster, then Spiegel was an even bigger disaster, so they brought back Hughes. I mean seriously... They're never going to discredit Dr. Curry with pretty much anyone, Curry is pretty much the definition of "unimpeachable".
@@theonlyju1 that’s because curry did her due diligence and the others didn’t. Curry KNEW HER SHIT and hughes could barely answer a single question without checking her notes.
Camille STUDIED this woman. For YEARS. She asked Johnny for everything and anything that could or would bug her. She read through all of these notes from medical professionals and took anything that could affect her. THATS why she could respond to her on the fly. THATS why we saw Amber unravel on the stand. We saw Amber demonstrate ALL the behaviours that were described by the incredible team of experts that were hired by JD. An absolute masterclass.
I disagree, I totally believe JD IS THE ONE THAT KNEW HOW AMBER WOULD TESTIFY. I also believe that was the main reason JD WANTED CAMERAS/SO THE WORLD AND HOLLYWOOD COULD SEE AMBER AND WHAT HE WENT THROUGH AND DISNEY!! NOW I DO BELIEVE THEY STUDIED HER TO EXPOSE AMBER/ But it originally would’ve had to come from JD:: then, JD ATTORNEYS WENT TOO WORK
It's absolutely not ok that people are sending her death threats or wishing harm on her kid, or even on her. 100% stand behind that. *HOWEVER* she cannot blame JD for *causing* that social media backlash. She is getting a taste of her own terrible medicine, because JD went through similar hits after AH took out the restraining order (and made sure to be photographed) and then made her "story" public all in order to jump on the MeToo train and get herself some sympathy points and more exposure. As someone who grew up in an environment of domestic abuse and as someone who suffered violence at the hands of bigger, stronger men (one of him tried to choke me right in front of one of my family members _who did nothing to stop it_ or to rescue me), I absolutely KNOW that yes, SOME men in positions of of better strength--whether that strength is manifested in a physical way, or in having power of others--SOME men do take advantage of that. And yes, some people--not just men--who abuse alcohol and/or drugs can turn into fucking monsters. Yes, yes, yes. But that this man who has SO MANY former partners or current friends or former colleagues who all say he is not a man who ever raised a hand to them says something. And I know that is not the be all end all of proof because, yeah, wealthy and famous people have a certain degree of power and so they will always have somebody standing up for them. But look, when my mom was going through it, she could not hide all the bruises, she could not hide the fact that friends and neighbors heard what was happening, and she had plenty of clear evidence of what was going on. It started on the honeymoon for her, too...she was hit in the face. When she was six months pregnant with me, she was punched in the belly and then pushed to the floor, at which point she walked out ("friends" advised her to go back, because it was the 70s and single girl of 19 expecting a baby was never going to be able to get a good-paying job she could work full time. Sadly, she put up with it for 7 more years). As someone who lived through _actual_ DV in the home, I'm fucking PISSED that AH has decided to play the role of victim and "survivor" and that she did it so publicly, expecting that she could destroy JD's career and advance her own. The problem with PRETENDING to be a survivor of DV is that the lie NEVER. HOLDS. WATER. And every single time someone comes forward with a story of DV that turns out to be a false claim, they make it 300 times harder for the REAL survivors to be believed and to get justice. I pissed that she has set us back with this BS. I'm pissed that she decided to destroy someone else's life just for the sake of a few more clicks and more followers and watchers. And I'm PISSED that her kid is going to have to grow up with this shadow forever hanging over her of "That's Amber Heard's kid...the woman who claimed Johnny Depp abused her." She should have taken her $7 MILLION dollars and let all the toxicity of this marriage go. And it WAS toxic, no doubt. And omg I hope like hell that Johnny gets his ass into rehab ASAP and gets COMPLETELY off the booze and the drugs then gets some therapy (and maybe some anger management) and then HE lets the toxicity go. PURGE, you guys, and forget you ever knew each other. I said from the beginning when she first got with him that he was going through a mid-life crisis and AH was clearly trading up from her well-known photographer girlfriend to an A-list celeb who was, let's face it, easy pickings due to the mid-life crisis. Everything she does now is to get attention. She needs help/therapy. They BOTH do. I just hope they both manage to pick up the wreckage of their lives after all this and move on.
Wow Irish this is the best post I’ve seen so far. Sorry for all your family’s trials & tribulations, wow sad times…good on you for getting through it. That said ,just want to say well said I couldn’t agree more 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😮👏👏 thank you 🙏
I have not read one single death threat anywhere. She is exaggerating. Mist pple r righteously angry at her abuse. Also this matches with her personality disorder- to lie, exaggerate and make herself a perpetual victim
Listening to Amber today… no tears again. Can’t believe a word this woman is saying. Her words, tone, body language don’t match. Nothing about the trauma that she put others through. No acceptance of her own issues. She is perfect in her own eyes. People are speaking up against Amber because they see the same thing that I and most everyone else sees. Johnny is not responsible for that. Amber Heard brought this all on herself.
Also, If people are saying anything about babies in microwaves those people are jackasses and need a lot of mental assistance but that still doesn’t mean that Johnny Depp is the cause of these things happening to her. People are dicks on the internet. Period.
I think some people find crying in public difficult, parental abuse in child hood is a reason. I still dislike AH, but her childhood has caused a lot of damage.
Software dev here. Ackert lied about exif metadata being changed by Photos 3. Sorting *does not* modify exif data. Sorting data is stored by the app in a separate file, not in the photo itself.
It just dawned on me - an important part of what happened today... Amber's habit of turning to the jury to answer totally backfired. The trained habit became a true habit because of all the hours of testimony. By now, she was doing it automatically. So today, when Camille got under her skin, she was turning directly to the jury while responding with anger, indignation etc. She was just beaming this directly at the jury. If anyone was still on her side, I think she likely lost them.
Cherry picking facts, eh? Johnny lost his case in the UK which proved that he is indeed a wife beater. So not defamation. The op-Ed was about speaking against powerful dudes and the backlash women face. Despite the evidence. She mentioned some powerful dudes by name. But not Depp. She doesn’t even go into the specifics of the relationship. Last but not least, Depp claims he lost potc because of the op-Ed. The evidence doesn’t support this. He sabotaged himself. Those are the facts. At some point, a drug and alcohol addiction will catch up to you.
During direct she's faking sadness and trying mask her anger (and some contempt) but it leaks through. However there were a few moments when she was genuinely sad. It's interesting to see how many people will pick up on her micro expressions since she is an actor. On cross she definitely lost that control and let everything show on her face
i literally cried when johnny closed. i wasn't a fan of him as a person before because I thought he was too weird. now ... i see he's human and real and good and kind and generous... and broken.
It’s when she claims “I never wanted all this attention, all the abuse I’m getting!” Well, if she didn’t write the article, then repeatedly contact TMZ, she would have faded into the background. But that’s the last she wanted! She made her bed, then she shat in it 🤣🤣🤣Sorry, couldn’t resist 😜
Exactly 💯% Everything she is "going through" is a result of her being pissed Because He Left Her! No sympathy for her violence lies. She made crap up as she went along, starting with that last night he came over to His Own Penthouses. She Knew her shit in the bed was his last straw. She was frantic trying to figure out who told him. She knew! That OLD pic of a bruised arm, where no telling who grabbed her, was her starting pic, the rest Created By Her! The pics of him sleeping were her pissed he passed out. That's All She Has. He's right she just wants Fame! Now she's Infamous for shitting in the bed.
Yup. I’ve been in a few fights (I was a wild teen) and every time I punched anyone in the face my knuckles would be bruised. My stepsister punched a wall and she had a broken hand (?) idk how to explain it but this is what was a red flag for me
@@angierox69 Someone I know used to punch walls when he was angry. Never had a visibly bruised hand because he didn't punch the wall that hard, but I can see how a partner might still find it scary and intimidating.
@@tkay5904 yea luckily (maybe not so lucky because it took my fear of fighting away) my mom had me in a self defense class up until I turned 14 so I’ve never broken anything but I have bruised my hand.
That's gaslighting. It's a large part of Borderline Personality Disorder. She will say what she needs you to believe, stick to it, even if there is clear evidence to the contrary, and repeat and repeat until you give in and agree with her that - yes, they are probably two different photos. You are the one who is incorrect. She must have turned on the light between taking them. BPD is a very dangerous illness. The mental and emotional damage it does to the victims can be severe and long lasting. Perhaps someday she will see that her worldview is skewed and get herself some treatment.
Besides that very obvious one. The ones showing her trashed penthouse bar area was now slightly different angles, supposedly on different days, had the exact same wine stain pattern. When AH stages photos she's REALLY lazy.
Amber is simply playing out her narcissistic borderline personality. She is jealous of Depp's good standing with his employees and colleagues. She can't stand him being liked by the public, having a successful career, having 15 houses and 2 islands and millions and millions of dollars. She cannot live with anyone's kindness and good nature. She perceives everything as snub, a form of abandonment or an escape to her control. She is naturally self centered, her vision of reality is the only one possible and she is always right and justified, regardless of the hard facts. She also projects her wrong doings onto others, exposing herself (confessing, really) in the process. It's textbook stuff. On the other hand, Johnny Depp put up with all of this because AH reminded him of his mother and he thought he could bring her around, make her love him, he fought to feel seen and recognized by her, something he did not accomplish with his mother. This is a very clear representation of a mental health picture that is much more common than most would believe. Amber Heard was played like a fiddle on this trial by JD's team of professionals (lawyers, doctors, technicians, security personnel). They knew what sort of person they were up against. They knew how she would behave and what would trigger her. Even the fact of getting the trial televised served a double purpose: enhance AH's vanity and thirst for public recognition while allowing the facts to be streamed live to the public, free of mainstream media interference, hence naturally clearing Depp's name and honor. The cherry on top was JD refusing to look at AH. That just digs at her like crazy. Feeling ignored is the worst for narcissistic borderlines - it starves them of fuel. Johnny Deep's team's execution was flawless! AH even chose a team of very weak lawyers because she needs to be in control and would not concede to anyone telling her what to do. She dug her own grave, as she would. This is a clean cut case and one for the books of Forensic Psychology. And an example that the TRUTH will always come out and shine through, no matter how long it may take.
@@michelehyman6362 You are a survivor. Amber is the aggressor. Therapy and understanding these phenomena can help victims to heal and become aware of patterns that would make them fall prey of aggressors. I wish you all the best. :)
especially after watching her 2016 video depositions, where she acted like a queen and glared at the attorneys for interrupting her, it feel so satisfying to rewatch Camille shutting her off and tearing her down
Her and her expert witnesses would rather look like complete arrogant fools than look wrong. What they doing understand is that it’s possible to survive looking wrong but looking foolish is a whole different thing
Emily,I don't agree with you Johnny testified truthfully where did he hold anything back and how could you believe anything Heard says are you just playing Devils Advocate I'm afraid it's not working,I will not watch anything you have to say WOW
"I have SO many pictures..." ...but I figured that submitting multiple different versions of the same handful of photos and attributing individual photos to multiple events/times as evidence in trial would be the best strategy?
If she had so many photos over 5 years, was she taking them before they were married? And if she was taking them for 3.5 years, why would she marry him? Oh, wait, I know the answer. IF she was taking photos during their entire relationship it would seem to be evidence that she's planned this whole thing from the very beginning.
@@elenalatici9568 I will say I don't like to take the "then why did you marry him" approach. People stay with and marry their abusers all the time. It goes both ways here, as well. Depp's side claims that she was controlling and abusive leading up to their marriage and that he essentially went through with it begrudgingly. But when she lies about every little thing under the sun and her entire defense is to assert that everyone, including her own friends and her own witnessess, are either lying or getting it wrong on the stand when their testimony fails to align with her version of events....she makes it damn near impossible to believe her in any matter whatsoever.
Amber Heard: "What DV survivor would want publicity" Also Amber Heard: "Mr. Depp only recently spoke about his allegations of DV" (when forced to defend himself in the courts) We all can see who the real DV survivor is, can't we?
“I know how many people will come out and say whatever, thats his power. That’s why I wrote the op ed is cause I was speaking to that phenomenon; how many people will come out in support of him and will fall to his power…” In other words, the Op Ed was about him and written with malice.
No she's a bit inarticulate. She shouldn't refer to him when she means the man in any abusive situation, which is true. The men who are abusers are often charismatic who have the support of people around them. People don't want to believe men they adore are abusive.
I caught this too! Earlier in the trial she said the op ed wasnt about him at all, that it was about her previous experiences and situations in general. Now shes claiming the Op ed was about him and his power. Which is it? And if the op ed is about him, i mean, he just won this trial, as one of their main goals was to prove the op ed was about him. Another was that she wrote it (again, towards the begining she said she didnt write it, that someone else wrote it for her).
The first thing she said weeks ago when her interrogation started was “I’m here for an op-ed i wrote about my ex husband” and even though latter she denied that it was about him she also said she’d never “been abused” before meaning it couldn’t be about anyone else so today only cemented what she’d already confessed without noticing it, the only thing the jury needs to determine now is whether the abuse actually happened or she made it up and hopefully all the testimonies the evidence and the professional explanations were enough to prove it
Key facts in this case- 1- JD is right handed therefore ALL bruises would be on AHs LEFT side unless he only hit her from behind. In all her accounts he struck her facing her. Most bruises she claimed she got were on the right of her face. 2- JD wears rings, big chunky ones which had he hit her, would have gouged out tissue, left imprints, deep focused bruising and a hell of a lot of swelling. Bruises displayed by AH were superficial with NO tissue damage. Not even a slight break of the skin. 3- No amount of make up could cover the damage done by the extensive beatings she claims to have endured. When the eye socket is struck with force blood vessels in the eyes are ruptured. AHs eyes have always been clear. 4- Ice cannot totally eliminate swelling in a matter of hours. All photos of bruising show no swelling around the alleged strike area 5- DV victims NEVER get free access to private medical and therapy personnel. The abuser keeps them from any help that could remove their victim or alert with evidence the police. 6- A DV victim would NEVER taunt, start fights with, argue with or otherwise provoke their abuser. They will try to be invisible, not enrage or risk any type of altercation with their abuser. AH has lied. These 6 points are the only ones needed to completely debunk her claims. The lawyer’s for JD should have used these at the end of their cross with AH.
They also would not be allowed to have friends and family live with them or around them like JD did, abusers are very controlling and try to separate you from family and friends
DV can occur within a relationship where both individuals are violent to one another, but AH is claiming that she was purely on the receiving end (except for defense) so I'd agree that taunting is inconsistent w how she has framed her victimhood
She absolutely is! Scary. Very scary. Had Mr Depp not stood up, she would have absolutely ruined his life with zero remorse-zero....and shes still trying!
I agree...Amber Heard is Dangerous. I believe All Movie Executives will think she's certainly "Not Worth it". She can tell horrendous damaging lies about anyone with no consideration Will anyone hire her? They would think The risk is to high, the exposure to The Company is not acceptable, Amber Heard Could Fabricate Anything, She is An Accuser. Maybe she could be hired by some soft porn producers? Just trying to figure out who would use her with such a high risk factor. I can't think of any Employer in any Company taking on responsibility after watching this.
or smerk the hole time he was getting g cross examination yesterday. smirking like ye I got you on that evidence johnny no victim would behave like this just to get there story out
I am so disgusted listening to Amber. Her account of her “trauma and triggers” is absolutely despicable. Where are the pictures! She doesn’t have a clue what a DV survivor endures. It’s like she is playing make believe at the cost of DV survivors. The ACLU needs to drop her like a bad habit
she has useless pictures of spilled wine which i bet she threw during her tantrums but not of violent bruises and cuts and when she did, it was light blush or random bruises on her lips. It's funny how people even side with her.
What is relevant is Hughes didn't follow the instructions for the test . All she did was show AH how to fake pstd by not following the instructions on the test
I did not notice watching this live how blatantly Elaine disrespected Judge A. The amount of times she explains the law to the judge I would've sanctioned her.
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If I was a juror I would be so turned off by Ambers demeanor when getting cross examined. She is rude and dismissive and the looking at the jury is manipulative.
If I were a juror in this case I would be disturbed that an almost 60 year old man uses pornographic language and has depraved homicidal rape fantasies. Plus the drug and alcohol abuse for over 20 years and a history of violence. Why the fuck is that guy not in a rehabilitation center?
@@jamiwengler338 i thought it was weird that it seems like no one notices how she switche between "poor me" and dramatizing and whining when she is on direct examination and as soon as cross begins she switches up and becomes defensive and rude
I was skipping through Amber on the stand because I have a hard time listening to her, and there is SUCH a huge difference between her demeanor when she's on cross versus direct and redirect! As soon as she was into direct, she was sobbing and making faces. Then on cross she was cold, composed, laser-focused. As SOON as her lawyer came up to do redirect, she was a sobbing petulant mess again. Switched on and off like a machine.
The way that Dr Hughes kept saying “as I told you before…” or “as I already explained…” is such aggressive wording to the jury as if they were the ones that said that she was wrong
Because it was about HER REPUTATION... it wasn't about Amber AT ALL...she was worried about missing all of the extra cash as an "expert" witness in the future.. How can a judicial system be unbiased when nearly EVERBODY has a dog in the race...
I have a difficult time listening to her defense anymore. Especially in this day and age, most people who have integrity and gumption would earn a living through working and honing a craft. Not using someone to get ahead. Johnny made himself a star by learning a craft , not marrying into fame. Not declaring to be a victim. He is far from perfect human, but he earned his fame and fortune the honest way. I believe him. I hope he seeks therapy from the trial and the overwhelming abuse he endured.
Camille Vasquez literally tickled Miss Heard to admitting on her own words “that’s why I wrote the op-ed, coz I’d be speakin’ of that phenomenon, how many people will come out in support of him” there goes your defamation right there
Vasquez got up & tickled AH until she confessed? Did she ask the judge if she could approach for tickle torture? I missed that bit. 😉😜 Before anyone has a cow I'm just teasing a little bit because I thought it was a cute mistake. Have me a chuckle ' cause it created a visual Vasquez having Amber penned and tickling her saying confess, confess. 🤣
Here is one thing that I find REALLY important: Amber is saying how her film crew has to deal with her unspoken rules, panic attacks and other issues. But... Didn't the boss of DC say that filming for Aquaman 2 went smoothly and that he doesn't recall any problems? Hmm...
Just another lie in her web🤦 Do you remember the adio piece where Amber was trying to bait him by saying " don't push me against the wall you like the wall huh? Stop pushing me" Mmmmm.....weird considering she said she was sitting in the car.
Dr Hughes reminds me of this horrible psychiatrist that my boyfriend had once. I went into the appointment with him and the psychiatrist knew what she was talking about and was very smart but she would get defensive and argue anytime he had a question to the point where he felt like he wasn't being heard and was confused and he ended up in tears. Demeanor is very important in that field
Yes and too bring back from her first testimony she said she was a clinical psychiatrist but with some training in psychology but not as a professional forensic psychologist yet they declared her as a forensic psychologist but she's not qualified
3:02:13 The way that Camille just FLICKED the page in her binder and left after saying "no further questions" while Heard was continuing to ramble... I LOVE HER! 💜
Disagree respectfully. She seemed very arrogant, snarky and dismissive of all other witnesses. She’s basically saying to believe her and only her despite testimony and witnesses and photos. All others are lying
And that she has SOOO MUCH EVIDENCE and photos you know. His team protects him but her friends don’t ? I’m so glad Camille asked about why Raquel didn’t see the wrist when she heard the “that’s my girl”
IMO Dr Hughes should’ve been sanctioned (at the very least) for the way she handled this case. She not only skewed the truth but also taught Amber how to fake PTSD.
2:22:43 she composed herself soooooo quickly after “sobbing.” Ben at the podium, sad, tiny violins everywhere, pained look. Camille stands up, suddenly she’s stone faced.
- “I invited my publicist because I’m a public figure” LOL. 1- She took the picture of the floor. 2-She testified that EXACTLY the same picture was on two separate days. 3- Now she doesn’t know the location or when it was taken. Claiming metadata is missing. 4- Finally claims the photo is irrelevant. - Claims everyone on the stand is lying and global superstars want few seconds of fame. - Turns on the waterworks on a dime after getting angry at the comments from Camille beforehand. She’s just got a script of what she wants to say. What a load of shit.
Just realized at 2:49:19 that when Camille ask if Rocky and Josh submitted statements about the domestic violence she immediately pulled up the pics that are the same to prove they were both lying bc the pics are the same but are supposedly from two different incidents THAT both Rocky and Josh testified too. Wow! She was so good you actually miss thing until the second time around
Ty for highlighting that. At the moment, I wondered why she mentioned Josh Drew and Rocky Pennington. I thought it was to show how they were there to back her up that day, but I forgot it also means they backed her up in their witness testimony!!! In other words, they also lied!!!
“.. to advocate for others, to bring light to these issues, to give a voice to others who don’t have platform to do so..” - AH 2:18:06 This so far is the one thing she has said that i appreciate. Thank you for giving JD the platform to speak up about a highly stigmatized stereotype that men can not be DV victims, and that ALL assumptions/accusations should be handled equally, regardless of gender.
The most interesting thing for me is that her head was held high this entire court session. Not once did she lower her head during these past few weeks. (Not including when she was writing obv)
The second she took the stand today, she immediately changed the emotion on her face. She made sure she was "sad" as soon as he asked the first question like a light switch. If I was a junior, I would immediately stop believing anything she said going forward. It literally looks like acting. Happy and laughing right before before she was called to the stand. Her attorney says "action" her emotions change in her voice and face, objection is called by the otherside and it's like a director called "cut"
Someone spoke about the jury reactions to amber heard. Some was over it, one even turned his head away while she was talking and she mainly looks at the two female jurors
@@missdaydreamss I don’t blame them for looking away. I find the over dramatic way of her testimony very distracting personally. Its hard to listen to her when her facial expressions are so exaggerated
I was yelling at my tv today saying this very same thing. True emotion you are not gonna cry or not cry in between objection. True emotions don’t just change that quickly, but when you’re acting,lying and trying to fool the world, I guess she would try anything.
I was convinced she was lying based solely on the audio/videos. She clearly instigates and prolongs the fights, admits to violence and demonstrates she is the aggressor. Moreover, for someone who claims she suffered dv for 5 years, and made so many efforts to get recordings her evidence is poor. The best she came up with was him slamming around some cabinets.
Agreed. Aside from JD & AH's testimony, there is plenty of evidence and witnesses that clearly demonstrate that AH was the aggressor in all of this. Aside from the cabinet situation (which wasn't even about AH), any aggression JD shows is in response from AH's attacks. There is NOTHING that proves he was violent against her.
Exactly and wanted to stay in fighting and argument what abused victim wanted to fight. As I have seen any victim of abuse would never want to fight or start a fight or running after him
That disproves her point also. If he was abusive as alleged, why wasnt he violent to ah when she was right there and went for cupboards instead? Maybe he always goes he inanimate object in frustration? Maybe he's not violent against people?
In my personal experience with DV, if my abuser was intoxicated and slamming cabinet doors, the last thing I would have done would be to go into rhat room and engage with him.
Amber: “I don’t even know how to do that. I have no idea how that would even be done.” (Leak media) Also Amber: “If I wanted to do that, I could have done it a lot more effectively.” 🤔
This stuck out to me, as well... Amber reminds me so much of my mother & it's almost like I can read her mind up there on the stand. The gears are turning, trying to fit the mold to make herself look best, to discredit her opponent & win approval of those around her all at the same time. She is quick to think on her feet, her whole life has been one big social experiment, every person she has ever met is only a toy to her, If only she used her brilliant mind for good, who knows where she'd be then.
Amber's testimony mirrored what she did to Johnny. She showed herself as controlling and manipulating. She didn't help her case with the over dramatization.
As Robert Barnes would say, "Confession through projection." This appears to be happening when AH said she knew several people that committed perjury in trials.
I got livid every time rottenborn was like lets impeach you with this evidence and then it was a completely different question in the deposition or not a picture/text that disputed it. Added: i get upset because it makes me feel like im being gaslight.
I’ve been rewatching this trial and the lies that flow off her tonge are crazy. I’ve now started to read the transcript of her testimony here in the uk trial and the things she came out with like telling the judge TMZ had an office in the same building as the courts you can’t make this stuff up. As for the online harassment it sad to say the word is KARMA what she did to Johnny has now come full circle and she didn’t care about him his children his family his friends or the one thing he loved doing for decades his acting job and She says she has lost things she just can’t stop lying!!
I almost wonder if Johnny’s whole reason for testifying yesterday is because he knew amber would want to come on and have the last say - and make herself look ridiculous! Remind the jury how unlikable she is with 4D chess
I thought that too, it was a red rag to a bull. Also given Johnny's slow cadence it was a good way to run down Heard's time. Seems to have been very tactical.
I think so, and Camille was amazing. one thing that is telling to me is that she is all upset and crying (though no tears?) when discussing these events with her council but when challenged on cross that the same things are false she becomes angry, indignant, sarcastic and flippant. You would expect the same reaction, and even a stronger one. That's why I don't see Camille as bullying Amber. If she was breaking down and sobbing her answers and Camille kept at her like that then that would look bad, but she went head to head with her instead... I could almost see her following room to room and that needs to be brought up in closing.
Thought the same thing. I think she wanted the same vulnerable moment JD had, and the last word as well. I think there is a good chance JDs lawyers were counting on it.
Camille’s patience is unreal… the way she can keep relatively even keeled when interviewing someone who’s very inconsistent/combative is really impressive to me
I really wish that Amber would be charged with perjury but we know that’s not going to happen. I seriously believe that Amber and her friends set this whole thing up as she saw Johnny as a sucker and went after him for his money. I really hope she is Black listed from Hollywood.
She doesn't need to be blacklisted, just disciplined for he behaviour. Her job has nothing to do with this. If men in set want to cheat on their wives with her a Johnny did that's their problem and I hope their wives divorce them.
@@ellie-tk4jy Not blacklisted just disciplined? You just said her job has nothing to do with this, so why would the entertainment industry discipline her? She deserves jail time for her actions and serious false accusations against JD. But that won't happen. She can keep her acting job, let's see what happens after this trial with her first movie release and no one pays to go see it. Bet she'll be blacklisted then. She has the right to say and write what she wants and we have the same right to call her out on her BS. and protest her films.
How else would a jury know exactly what it is that they are returning a verdict on? Without specifics there could be millions of different things they could issue verdicts on.
When Amber said that Johnny only recently came forward abt the abuse, I think this proves how a real DV victim responds. Not REACT but respond! Imo this proves how she twist things.
As a survivor I can testify how true that is. I can only imagine for a man that unfortunately only now is society starting to recognize male victims and survivors
Amber saying that was so gross to me. She claims to not only be a survivor but also that she wants to be an advocate and give victims a voice yet she basically implied that if someone doesn't immediately come out with their story that they're lying. That's not okay.
It’s triggering to hear Ms Heard make a mockery of being triggered for her IPV trauma. That is what I live through. And the fact that she is masquerading having my experiences and many many other people’s experiences is disgusting.
After watching today, having Johnny go back up makes sense. It seems like a strategic move on Depps side. They knew Amber will want to go back up and it was a great way to trap Amber and get her to slip up. Brilliant!
This is why AH offended all those who have experienced abuse..... WARNING***TRIGGERS***WARNING I am a retired psychologist who prepared evaluations for court and insurance companies. My comments contain descriptions of cases I worked on personally. AH needed to be 'heard' and have a voice to be understood by the world. So did my patients/clients. My 19 year old client who was seeking custody of her two toddlers to protect them and her from their father who removed them from her after he had kicked her in the abdomen (while 6 months pregnant with their third child) until she spontaneously aborted her baby. The baby had a crushed scull. This dear woman could not afford a multi million dollar law suit. A dear gentleman who was repeatedly beaten with a baseball bat who lost his job because he had two broken arms needed a voice. In court he was asked why he didn't defend himself and just hit back, his tearful answer was, "you're not supposed to hit women ~ and besides, if I hit her I would go to jail." AH could have given abuse victims a voice by supporting a group who works with victims and use her high profile to bring this to public attention. It is disingenuous for a woman who could walk away from her abuser at any time to behave as she behaved in the aftermath of this unfortunate, dysfunctional relationship. Apologies for this long comment.
As someone who has severe PTSD from not only childhood abuse, but also domestic abuse from my ex…hearing her say she turned it into a positive & “found relief” in her PTSD? Are you fucking kidding me? Way to minimize a deep & well, *traumatic* struggle that she clearly has never truly been through. I’m genuinely fucking appalled..
Camille came back and said, "If you didn't get me the first time, let's get me the last time right now. This is MY courtroom, not yours, Ms. Heard!" ICON! Camille went IN and she didn't hesitate one second! We love Camille.
Gay male DV survivor here - my relationship ended when my ex was convicted of strangulation and assault. From that perspective, I can relate to JD as an abuse survivor. Even without any of the details that have come out in the trial, it just seems obvious to me from what he says, and the way he says them. All I can see in AH is an abuser that needs help before she moves on to destroy the next person.
Thank you for sharing. I hope you've healed from it. I don't think she'll hurt anyone as she's been exposed. If her current partner stays with her then at least she was informed of her behaviour.
I’ve been listening to Emily over the Johnny and Heard case, from Scotland. The courts here in the UK, never gave Johnny the Justice he deserved. Her lies have been unbelievable. Hope the Jury see through this horrible woman. She tried to completely ruin Johnny but if there’s Justice , she ruined herself . Everyone is lying but Heard herself!!
Julia....exactly . and on the same vein she said he had a stylist tell her how to dress yet if you see every one of her gowns on the red carpet their low-cut, backless, skin tight... that's BS.... if he was jealous like she said she would never be able to wear stuff like that out in public. Never.
Honestly I wonder if it was her way of threatening Johnny Depp through her testimony. She said he blocked her and I really think he did. He can not indulge her at anytime.
@@Motherofrat my first husband didnt allow ANYTHING that wasnt high necked and didnt compleatly cover me. Once he buttoned a button down the front shirt as high as it would go and it choked me so when I got to work I unbutton that top button and forgot about it... when I got home needless to say I got the crap beat out of me and everything else that went with it. She is full of crap. My abuse was in 1978 and I have never, ever ,ever, believed a man over a woman until this case ...I know an abused woman when I see one and she is not. This line of questioning would be so triggering to her her body would be vibrating and she would be gasping for breath from anxiety attacks .especially since she claims she has PTSD
If she has panic attacks, why haven't we seen one? This trial should be a trigger. Panic attacks cant be controlled. They dont wait till you are away from cameras.
And not EVERY abuse survivor with PTSD even has “panic attacks” I definitely have a spiked heart rate at times for no real reason but my thoughts but it doesn’t present like your stereotype of a panic attack. That’s just me but dr. Curry kinda said similar things; shes presenting herself as every trauma related disorder all the time at 100% intensity. It’s not realistic. My ex tried to strangle me 4 times and I still function more smoothly than she claims to.
TRAUMA AFFECTS EVERYONE DIFFERENTLY But I testified and questioned my own witnesses to get a lifetime restraining order on him a couple weeks after the last assault and I got it, and I didn’t lose my composure and didn’t need to act hysterical (EVEN 2 WEEKS AFTER AN INCIDENT) to be believable because I literally just told the truth. Period.
she jumped when on the stand hearing the viedo with kitchen cabinets but when sat with attorneys ans same viedo came she stayed still. First week of court case this was . I was thinking same thing why is it only triggering her when she wants it to but can turn it of or forget she has attacks and triggers when she thinks no one is looking
Not once, not once during this trial has the emotions she's displayed on direct ever transferred over to cross examination. She goes from quivering and sobbing when alleged traumatic events are brought up during direct...but when those same events are discussed during cross, she is argumentative, hostile, defensive, sharp and abrupt, etc. That's not how these emotions are supposed to work. It should be even more traumatic to her during cross when these horrible allegations are brought up to her, she has to relive them again and is then immediately called out for them not being true. She should be displaying more distressed emotion on cross as well. Unless... this is an act and she was coached to behave a certain way by her legal team. That was the very first thing I noticed about her on the stand in her previous testimony and today.
Yes! She is straight faced or smirking when sitting with her attorneys, but once on the stand 🎬. Almost as if she thinks she's invisible when not on the stand and thinks we can't see her! Oh, the delusion!
Ladies and gentlemen, gaslighting at its finest and in real-time. Everyone must believe her and disregard everything their own eyes see or what is just plain fucking common sense. I'm scared to think of how many Amber Heards walk around outside and how much damage they do. 😳
The jury are just ordinary folk like all of us... no doubt her expecting them to believe her over their own eyes and intelligence must feel highly condescending
I feel very sorry for her sister Whitney. Yes, Whitney committed perjury, and that is awful.... especially after all of the love and help Johnny gave to her. She has been a victim of Amber's physical, mental and emotional abuse her entire life and I believe she feels trapped. Going against her conscience is going to mess her up for the rest of her life.
