*I want to be very clear; I’m only giving Bungie this one chance for Act 1. I saw how much was put into the Final Shape, and so I assumed it would be a weaker first act. However, if this continues, this is definitely a problem.*
I gave them a chance with the final shape and it was awesome. Separately I gave them a chance with episodes and.... Meh. I'm not buying the next one until I see reviews which is the safer option now.
What problem? One chance? Man you will still pay for every content and cosmetics like you always do. You can say whatever but you are still buying and making content with it. If you were actually going to do something, you would not buy it.
The obvious answer is that Act 1 of Echoes was made intentionally sparse in order to give players time to finish TFS and all post campaign content. People forget that not all destiny players are playing 8 hours a day like it's their job. It tracks that things are going to gradually build, just like they always have.
How long are we going to keep saying stuff like this? TFS campaign takes like a week to complete with only an hour or two per day. Post campaign are just some Exotic missions and finding dead ghosts. As for Echoes, you just need one hour a week to catch up on that story. Act 1 was a dud. It should have carried the momentum from TFS, but it fell flat.
😂 if your looking for something to do 30 hours a week, I suggest a job or side hustle. Destiny isn't made to supplement your real life lack of things to do. Go live your life! 😂
The timegate is too long, there is no excuse its more than enough time, plus you can choose your own pace. The time wasting is not for our benefit, its for theirs.
@@cos0 you say that, but half of my friends haven't even finished the campaign yet. Regular people have responsabilities, work, family, etc. Things are not that simple, and the general playerbase, the silent majority, the 9-5 dads with wife and kids are lucky if they can/want to spare 1-2 hours a week to play. People have 40-60 hour work weeks, family they spend time with, stuff they like to do besides gaming, hanging out with friends, doing exercise, touching grass in general. It's gonna take long for people with normal lives and schedules to go through a campaign that you and me could knock out in one day or two.
There is a whole Vex Civil War and we have not seen it. Just a bunch of lore paragraphs telling us it’s happening. I need them to add story components to the gameplay. Let me 3rd party 2 Hydras fighting each other!
Bro we've seen nothing like I'm looking to pull up on the cistern and just see a huge battle field of craters and destruction with vex fighting. Imagine having to thread the needle between that
The problem is that the story quests are still too predictable and follow a standard model. We want things to be shaken up. I dont want to keep doing a weekly quest each week that feels the same because its just talk to vendor, do seasonal activity, talk to vendor, if youre lucky do a quest or see a cutscene
@@Boomer-12347 how exactly do you make a non predictable story constantly And is it worth it As in should they make crazy twist just for the sake of it A lot of people felt the campaign was predictable because we all knew we’d fight the witness in a mission (cuz it lets everyone beat him) and even tho it was predictable af it was still surprising how it was executed For episodes sure we predict it’s maya but so what that doesn’t tell us anything about how that boss will be executed their motives what they do in the story how we beat them etc etc The only thing I can see that’s predictable is going to vendors and it being weekly but that’s not enough to judge a story in its entirety It can judge execution maybe but as a whole? Nah And (this may age bad) but act 2 could break that entire we literally won’t know till act 2 is out
@@SepticEmpire They're not saying the story is predictable, they're saying the way it is delivered is predictable. Your defending is why the game can't even break 90k
I am fine with seasons and episodes. The only thing I will say is that coming back every week for 5m of narrative does massively reduce any impact it could have. For example, the stillhunt quest or the queens quest were really cool narratively because we could go through the whole quest line without waiting. If we had to wait a week to do each step of those quests, I would have not liked them that much.
The multi billion dollar company telling us something wasnt possible before while cramming more microtransactions done our throats is enough to show they havent changed
I think Cross missed the point; it's not about liking or hating Seasons, it's more to do that Bungie said that Episodes ARE DIFFERENT from Seasons, yet there is nothing different about it. It's still "talk to vendor, get data, go to vendor, do some other tasks (vendor bounties/patrols/etc), go to vendor, go do story mission, see you next week." Bungie themselves marketed Episodes as something different than Seasons, but the only differences are the naming and that we have 3 instead of 4.
Yup. It's just a stretched out season by another name. Same formula, same amount of content. Even the season pass is inflated, with the same amount of cosmetics.
Wouldn’t be surprised if we got a sex scene at some point with how hard they’re shilling them, they both have such great interactions with other characters in lore tabs but in all cinematics they’re just in love and repeating each others names endlessly
Absolutely all of this in this comment chain. We get it Bungie. This is the twenty-eighth week in a row you've shown this in show and tell, you really really like it, we understand. Can we get something else please? Like Eris and Drifter stuff, or Elsie's relief after the Final Shape for being freed from her time-loop curse, or Crow settling in as Hunter Vanguard, or any number of more fascinating stories? Give Byf and Venextron and Myelin more interesting stuff to talk about that I can listen to while driving, because I'm not going to experience it through severe time-gated predictable "content" that only serves to pad out the engagement time of your playerbase while minimizing effort for you just to make nice numbers for investors and suits to look at.
Cross, I don’t like time-gating because it brings the story to a grinding halt (pun intended). I don’t care about getting every piece of loot or the god roll. I just want to experience more of the story and lore.
It reaches a point where the whole story just isnt done, they probably work on these till the week they drop And if you just want to experience it all at once, wait for it to be all out and play it
@@GlutenPlayz bungie just doesn't have the capability to crunch I guess. Bungie needs to realize good games are made by hard work. Overtime hours staying late crunching miserable hour after hour In the studio. That's how you make good games.
@@LifeWulf u say this but if time gating didn’t exist you’d beat the story in like a week then say there’s nothing to do for 4 months If u don’t care about loot then just don’t play till all acts are out People don’t seem to understand this is a LIVE service game it will ALWAYS have time gating If you want a game with story that can be explored in full and by your own progression then play Elden ring Play any story game that ever existed Destiny is live service first loot second and story third (Story and loot switch places when it comes to dlc) THATS WHAT DESTINY IS if you don’t like this it means destiny isn’t for you Plain and simple And if you like the story and lore just watch byf while you play other games Stop complaining about a fundamental part of what destiny is that’s like being mad at someone for personal Like your personalities don’t mix stop complaining about them and just move on You complaining like this is the exact same as a toxic gf/bf complaining about their partner Just stop
@@GlutenPlayz I hate to say it but we live in a world we're you can't be happy and get eveything you want. Everything is blood sweat and tears. More man hours goes along way. It's very common in the game industry that you are going to work really hard and really long. Finale shape was a prime example. Bungie knew what they made was going to fall flat so they delayed and started grinding. Personally idc if bungie is "woke" but I do care when it has your employees convinced that they got into a career where they supposed to work 8 hours 5 days a week like they don't get payed 100k plus a year. I really feel like bungie is like pre Elon musk Twitter. People just doing whatever barely working doing nothing. Bungie is the coworker that never does anything at work but acts surprised asf they got fired. *gasp* "I never seen this coming" yes your bitch ass did you lazy mf. Every thing they release for this game should have finale shape levels of pressure. If you don't want to be here there is the door. There is plenty of other young developers willing to take your place. Nature if business.
@@stevenjr.5536 bruh khvostov wasn’t even nerfed it was fixed because it was doing something unintentional Saying oh it’ll be nerfed in a week when the “nerf” is actually just a fix is kinda wild Like ofc a gun that’s not doing something as intended is gonna be busted af But oh look a gun that’s preformed as intended (conditional finality) has been the most used special in the game since then It’s almost like that argument is twisted and applied whenever people are upset they can’t used a busted weapon anymore
But guns aren't supposed to be too strong to the point where they make everybody other gun useless. Luke imagine gallahorn just instant deleted everything and had infinite ammo. You would be retarded for using anything else. Balance has a place in every game. Like what's up with everyone wanting every gun to be broken and then not get nerfed? I'm genuinely curious could you answer please.
i thought Episodes were gonna be mini expansions like Curse of Osiris. we get to play the story on day 1, and then they can unlock more stuff like activities, exotic missions, and weapons throughout like they’re doing now. i don’t mind time-gating if it’s like that.
@trailmountain8336 there were NOT 3 story missions in curse of Osiris 😂, that story was long as he'll compared to the 4 missions in warmind the expansion after. The end game just sucked cause the infinite forest wasn't infinite, couldn't even walk in without doing an adventure, 1 public event that didn't reward anything, no sparrows in the area, etc.
".... will be bigger and greater" AH YES, last year Paul Shillssy and some bungie devs said there was going to be a *REWORK* in TFS and what did the players got? Go to the Helm talk to X go do X activity talk to X SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Not even wrong lmao, the guy got a cash injection and was told to be nice because Bungie can't afford to have what happened last summer to happen again. Bungie would be gutted by Sony if that happens once more, and I honestly think they couldn't make it any worse than how Bungie has been for years now.
Most of those youtubers and reviewers are shills anyway. TFS is a neatly packed garbage made mostly out of old content, take the Traveler for example, you wait 10 years to learn what it really is, and in the end you learn that it's just a garbage container. Moreover, pseudo-artsy graphic design makes everything look like a cheap vaporware video, it's like someone was too much in love with 3d Studio Max from the 90s. Cheap emotional tricks are the key elements of the story, and they only work for someone who's into anime and its repetitive tropes and aforementioned cheap emotional tricks. Two weeks ago I finally uninstalled Destiny for good. It's just sad to see it end that way, but I've had enough. Guardian down.
Nah. Streamers/no-lifers would blow through everything in a day or two and then we'd get endless complaining. I don't necessarily care for this format, but as a father, husband, full-time worker, I'm appreciative of this downtime. It beats the alternative.
It's legit why I only come back for major dlcs I beat the campaign get the exotics I want then to crucible I go until the next expansion releases been doing that since forsaken after the hype died down
@@WaterGates1 Why does how other people play or enjoy the game affect you? It sounds like your poor lifestyle choices already affect your ability to play the game so why does there need to be an arbitrary time gate?
@@afilthyweeb8684 bruh go play something else. If you have all the weapons all the class items all the new goodies then take a break God damn. This new model actually lets me do shit at my own pace and make time for other games without the fear of fomo for not keeping up with the grind week to week. Pass your harshest judgement freely once we get to act 3 at least so we can know how an entire episode will play out before passing judgment on the first act.
@loopygordo You shouldn't be blaming other players for the FOMO that BUNGIE THEMSELVES implement into the game lmfao. Actual delusion. There'd be no worry of fomo if bungie didn't arbitrarily remove seasonal/ battlepass content after a year/3 months. Players that wanna grind through it fast ge tto be happy, and slowpokes like you can enjoy it at your own leisurely time. All you're doing is defending a multi-billion dollar company for their anti consumer practices and manipulation of the consumers' behavior and psychology.
Oh no... not another dual destiny please. As a solo player I'm on the verge of quitting. I buy every season with the annual pass since I started playing in Season of the Worthy. I was ok with raids being the only content I can't access. But now exotic missions? F*** that. I can't even get a refund for the next seasons. P.S.: Not asking for easier content, not socially anxious or anything, I just like playing alone. It's relaxing. Heck, give me a solo grandmaster level of challenge. But literally locking it behind team play and calling it "creativity" is just nonsense.
The first time Episodes / acts dropped they were supposed to be bigger and better improved over seasons according to bungie. But this time they REALLLLY mean it. Sure bungie.......sure
The only way I can see it working out is if the acts are separated for the world building too. I.e Nessues changes act 2 because everyone should be up to date at that point. Idk, setting was a big gripe of mine and if they consistently update the location in relevance to the narrative I’m a happy camper.
@@rgentum I'd be happy if bungie actually did what they said they were going to do for once. Just meeting expectations of TFS being good is not enough.
Who said they were going to be bigger and better? Could've swore they said they were scaling back with the episode model. People make expectations up in their minds and then get mad when they aren't met. Kinda weird
Or and ik this may seem crazy af Maybe act 1 is purposely made to have less that way people still grinding post campaign stuff can do that and not be overwhelmed Would kinda suck to go through episode stuff right after campaign you could either do post campaign stuff and get spoiled for no doing episode fast enough Or do episodes and never have time to do post campaign At least this gives us a break to earn the title and get some exotic swords and class items before the real episode stuff takes place If I’m wrong then oh well but at least I can think logically about why they might of done this rather than mob and hate bungie and make unreasonable expectations
That guy that commented isnt wrong, im yet to see a seasonal activity where im not moving and defending some shit or depositing some dumb thing. Or a combination of both, give something new man.
Destiny fans are truly in an abusive relationship. They're genuinely gaslit into thinking the next thing is going to be good. While TFS is good, it's just a good general expansion. It just seemed so amazing because everything was dogwater in comparison. It HAD to be good. The fact that Bungie knows what makes there expansions good and only puts the effort when their back is against the wall is shameful. D2 fans are about to go back to the same cycle. You all hyped and praised TFS so much they're going to think they can get away with half-assing anything after, and then once people finally see it's dogwater they will make another good expansion a year after. The cycle continues .
Did we not get the good stuff with final shape ? Destiny is arguably the best it’s been in a long time. The first season is always sparse after a major release. Hopefully they can deliver. Bungie doesn’t really have a choice but to do better and give us good content
Loved your take on the time gating part!!!! This is exactly what I think about all the time, there are sooooo many things to go out and grab. I'm loving the ergo sum grind and I just got the catalyst to work on!
I understand what Cross is going for the time gating. my only point is that there are people doesn't want to grind all the stuff that they will ignore. But then again, time gating is a way that keeps the player base engaged with the game, specially with a 4 month long season.
I actually don't mind that there's a longer break between the ax. It gives us more time to do other things because there's actually a lot to do in the game right now like a lot
Nah, this seasons story has been ass. Its supposed to be a vex story, but we've gotten 2 cutscenes about how in love Saint and Osiris are, and nothing about the vex other than "They're acting quirky guardian." Fucking pride month the season.
The infamous Bungie move of releasing half baked, measly, lackluster content via Episodes that were legit just longer more time gated Seasons (so they have more time to develop more half baked, lackluster content ?) Only to state "It will be bigger and better then ever!!!!"......Next Season... so tune in and be sure to pre order and buy the next Expansion/Season......😉 Bungie is just burning me too many times lately man im done until Destiny 3, sure Final Shape was great and cool but it still is just Seasons on repeat and the same dull weekly story/1-2 Seasonal Activities.... Where is the innovation bro? Like someone needs to release a proper killer to Destiny so Destiny can want to become greater. Legit.
Kinda related, but I feel like Destiny 2 really needs a relaunch of sorts. The entire game just feels so unorganized right now. It's hard to explain but the game kinda feels like a landfill (not implying that it's garbage) where old content is just randomally thrown into a pile instead of being reintergrated in a meaningful way, especially with content that has been impacted by vaulting. Old exotic quests that were once able to be naturally discovered by playing the game are now thrown into disconnected menus, you already start at 1900 power which both feels weird for new players and makes leveling up feel less satisfying, old important story moments are haphazardly retold in brief recaps from more menus. The holes left by vaulting has made the game feel like a mess because Bungie has just left the remnants of vaulted content on the floor. I'm sure some people don't mind this at all but I feel like this is a major turn-off for new players. I hope my point made any sense here.
@@thetachyonhivemind Yeah. Stasis and Strand definitely needs an additional supers. Also more grenade types and at least one more melee for all classes.
It's always gotta be bigger and better. Don't buy it, guys. Bungie marketing is stellar, but their promises often over-hype and undeliver. It's always gonna be "Just one more thing, then Destiny will be great." It's all marketing. This is just a season.
I can't get behind the timegating defense, i know i can grind for other stuff but i mean i pay for the whole story at once. why do i not get the whole story at once?
@@Asgaardiangatekeeper well, his pile of gold is dependent on everyone playing the game. It does make sense that he would be super defensive of their actions. It would make sense for him to do what he can to make the community think positively about the game. Interesting for sure.
When Destiny showed their contempt for single players with the 2player exotic class item mission was the day they made the decision for me to switch to another game. Add in the fact thay there was no information about it being forced 2 player until after a week had passed so I couldn't refund. F**k Bungie and the devs that decided to give a massive middle finger to solo players
Bruh exotic missions are just not worth the hype. People glaze the hell out of them but you just get the weapon and then you leave it alone forever (unless you're forced to play it multiple times for catalysts etc.)
You explained what players do for literally everything else. Dungeons and raids are not excluded. The only difference is that one gives guaranteed drops at the end. The others are chance drops.
@@jimmcmeen761 Literally nothing is going to change holy shit, there are 3 battlegrounds coming out in act 2, want me to tell you how act 2 is going to play out. Week1: get quest, do random fetching shit, do battleground Week2: get quest, do random fetching shit, do battleground Week3: get quest, do random fetching shit, do battleground And then another 3 week break until act 3
@@Alckee6904 maybe things are this way cuz people always leak it? Not entirely but probably a large reason They didn’t wanna do secret missions cuz they wouldn’t be secret and what do you know every detail about the mission was known day one and people had guides within the same hour If that happened to be I’d do the same boring thing all the time too cuz the moment I try to surprise or do something different everyone already knows and it ruins the point For raids it’s different but I’m sure people leak that too and how would you feel if a team that got first saw leaks and already knew the raid This isn’t always the case but I think this is one of the reasons bungie doesn’t make changes that much The fact people already know act 2 is crazy Like you literally don’t want to be surprised saint could die tomorrow and you’d already know How can someone who knows that kind of info also say “episodes are worse in every way so far” Like ofc it’s worse you already know everything Bruh
@@SepticEmpire Firstly this is definitely a company issue not a player issue. You one company that people leave the hell alone Nintendo!. They will sue until there is nothing left. Anyway though passion and all that is cool and I understand they don't want they're surprises reveal but who gives a flying fuck. They are a business of they want to make money they are going to have to start making a game worth playing otherwise they will have another pre finale shape situation. They also need to start legally going after leakers. Start ruining life's like other companies do make leaking something that is way to risky.
@SepticEmpire no bungie just let's people like you use it as excuses for them lol oh no extra content for leaked so cares lol at least it'd be in game. Crafting definitely is a double edged sword tho. When into the light came out and I had to farm shinies I wouldn't get as bored. But the check list loop they created only really hurts them. Idrc either way
Look, sure we’ll have an exotic quest and 1-2 new activities but it’s still the same stuff and we always overestimate bungie when they say things like this, they never do the logical thing like actually change the patrol space, change up the time gate logic or do anything new
We don't need bigger missions. We need a bigger goal to work towards to keep us playing. Look at something like the atlas in PoE. You have the goal of reaching the end of the atlas, all while the game progressively gets harder. This has you seeking out loot so that you can push your build further to its limits. Destiny doesn't have that. You do the campaign and the raid, and maybe some one off missions. And then what? All you do is get loot for the sake of getting loot.
You know people would complain about that too right? Destiny appeals to a much wider audience than PoE - it'd be like comparing PoE to Diablo again. Diablo IS a worse game (in most regards) imo but it appeals to far more people than PoE. Yes Destiny could give you that grind and content just like diablo could but that isn't their goal because thats not their target audience.
@@skylerfreeman1173 Ok. Then let's continue down the same path that will continue to slowly lose its most dedicated fans. Destiny has no future as long as this keeps up.
@@flametoooth Access Journalism is designed to be easily digestible for people with low intellectually curiosity or people that aren't curious about their own bubble. AJ always makes the parent company/product look good. Because its designed by a high end PR team to produce products like this video. There is ALOT of this on youtube.
@@lukelaws3545 PR-AJ exists to distract from and reaffirm the product in the direction the company wants it to go. Most American's dont really see this spin. Im just saying is I see the invisible hand, and im calling BS. Aztec thinks diet seasons are fine .. so they are fine! its FINE.. To be fair im sure everyone else that went on the PR junket in late may, Fallout etc.. or get the free limited editions, also post a video saying it FINE.
I love that we all go to Paul for news, but he doesn't actually get the interviews. GamesRadar does. About episodes, they ALWAYS say "wait till xyz, it'll be the best/biggest ever". Wish they could just stick the landing on seasons/episodes just once rather than promise next time.
I wish to know what your feeling are about the push to playing with randoms rather than playing solo, I was attracted to Destiny because of solo but new game play makes this tuff
"The dragonsh are coming! The pizza is coming!" Bungie: "We've listened, we've heard you, we promise to do better, good stuff is coming". Bungie: *nerfs titans again, doesn't fix old gameplay bugs, fires some more people.*
so me and my brother was looking at the Traveler and thought about how they said that they would never put expansions in the DVC again but that leaves the question..is the portal to the Pale Heart will ever close? Because lore wise it should unless theres forever a portal to the pale heart, this COULD mean that D3 will close the portal and we start anew.
Hey, if episodes can get to the quality of the story missions, I'll take it over expansions. If they add NPCs joining us to help fight like that battle against the witness, where we can SEE them helping us instead of just talking to us over comms, interacting with us and providing a stronger narrative then it's a win in my book.
@@flamingscar5263we know what we’re getting for the act 2 and 3 already, just a single exotic a few legendary weapons, and another boring battlegrounds activity
Did they mention frontiers specifially or just 'future of d2'? Because the latter was bait that they only tall about the seasons, its already long time ago.
Because those activities take place 3 days before the fight with the witness; it’s to keep the dialogue relevant because it doesn’t work post-final shape
Those are some of the post campaign missions. They originally happened during the waiting period after the campaign, and before the raid released, which is why it's noted that way.
@@rgentumThe lake of shadows remake came out in light fall. That's not 3 days before the witness. It's a glitch. Same thing with the disgraced which is the new light strike. Again, it's a bug.
@@dredgenspace The remakes happened forever ago, sure, but the dialogue has been adjusted with new characters from Final Shape, Cayde and Micah 10; and their dialogue is relevant to the in-between stage of launch and the three day period to the raid
@@dredgenspacedude fym ‘a bug’ lmao. Ah yeah cause a whole new dialogue set added to each of those strikes with new final shape characters was a ‘bug’ …
the issue is the slow tempo drip fed content. I get that bungie wants us to log in week after week but if thats the case, give a full weeks worth of content not just an hour or two of running errands for a vendor. OR open up all 25 or 49 or whatever number of steps the quest has on day 1 and let me run it start to finish, all steps, in one mega 24 hour stint if i want to. The method by which we get the content doesnt really matter. Episodes are fine and so are seasons. Its the quality, frequency and quantity of the content that matters. This game has a horrible habit of getting a plot moving and then hitting a quest gate that makes me wait a week while a vendor analyzes a sample?? thats basically telling me to play destiny for 2 hours or so, then spend the rest of the week on another game if i want a non-repetitive experience. there needs be something we can do in the meantime to progress the quest that isnt a repeatable, predictable, boring and prematurely flaccid seasonal activity. the first few runs of new seasonal activities are fun, but after that newness wears off it just becomes a chore to log in and do the same thing again and again.
again:i am willing to give bungie benefit of the doubt with this, its a new model and they have shown that feedback does help (Savathuns spire and the coil)
My biggest complaint about episodes is the 3 weeks of nothing new. I enjoy the weekly seasonal model that gave me new objectives each week -- I really REALLY think that episode 1 , act 1 is just so slow narrative wise and that’s why it’s aggravating
What I would say here to the people is, don't judge Episodes with Echoes. It is VERY CLEAR that Echoes was going to be a bit lacking because it comes directly after TFS, and we know the money/hard work went all to TFS. Wait until Act 3, or Revenant and Heresy, and then make an opinion of the format.
The problem is that the episodic model still tells the story in the same exact way seasons did. Do this activity and then go talk to someone, rinse and repeat. It’s very stale. The loot and activities themselves are fine
Forget the seasonal events. As a casual player I still have SO MUCH content to dive into. Still need to do Dual Destiny, get Khvostov, and attempt the raid. Most of us aren’t power grinding the first week and completing all content.
Are people really not happy with episodes? Just like the first season of any previous expansion I dont really judge it harsh since they usually get better as time goes on. I personally really like the episode model as it stands though also I love how much bungie is talking to the community again. We have missed this level of openness since DMG left. I only have 1.5 complaints with this current episode and that is not being able to have all the seasonal weapons at once but at the same time I am not really upset. It gives me an excuse to come back. The other .5 complaint is the season pass being locked behind the acts but its whatever, the only thing I really wish was out is the red death catalyst. I know some people dont like the 3 week break in story but I kinda like it. Being able to take a 3 week break without needing to catch up on anything is really nice, but I know I am in a minority with that. I do have complaints about the game as a whole but compared to previous expansions instead of being an essay its like a couple of paragraphs and to shorten it up: titans as a whole need some love. The glimmer economy is awful legendary shards should have never been taken away, I put 5600 hours into this game so I wouldn't have to farm for basic materials when I need them. The pathfinder system kinda sucks, it should be a grid of X's instead of >'s (if that makes sense). The character model glitch is getting really annoying. The game needs a damage testing/firing range (like the old tribute hall but better and with a boss level target to practice DPS rotations).
Honestly what are people expecting? What insane vision do you have in your head on what we were going to get in episodes? It’s not a new game, it’s D2. If you don’t like Destiny you would think after 10 years some of these people would move the heck on. It would be like going to the same Deli every week, getting the potato salad and then going “god I can’t stand potato salad”. STOP EATING POTATO SALAD IF YOU DONT LIKE POTATO SALAD.
We are talking about people here and people are not known to be intelligent I had several customers who use to say Dunkin donuts had better coffee every day when they bought there coffee and it was legit across the street u could see it from our front window but yet they would come here and say out coffee is worse like people are stupid get use to it
The complaints with seasons vs episodes was never story narrative. It's the fact that we get only one hour of pve content for an entire week. It's impossible to get immersed into a story when u forget the impact of what happened 6 days 23 hours ago each week. I don't mind red border weapons and grinding stuff out. Just give me all the narrative at once to do it at my pace. Then the rest of the season I can spend target grinding the items I want. With timegating story, I find myself only playing an hour a week, getting bored, and moving on to other games the rest of the week, and I end up not grinding all my patterns and weapons because I'm actually having real fun playing other games that don't withhold the actual story from me. It's been a crap model for 4+ years. I love Failsafe but I still find myself hating this season, I'm sorry, "episode", because it's the same one hour per week timegate. Timegate exotic missions, fine. Timegate certain weapons, fine. Do not timegate story and impact.
Maybe unpopular, but shouldn’t the first episode be fully put before we start giving grades? Into the Light was great. TFS is great. Let ‘em cook. Let’s talk after Act 3.
From a storytelling standpoint, y'all gotta understand what's going on here. It's all about the build up. It takes you back to when you heard the narrator say "find out... on the next episode of Dragonball Z". Remember that?? Yeah, me too.
I remember the content and story drought that was post d2 vanilla campaign. How there was nothing to do or look forward to. And i remain grateful for the season formant for giving me stories to come back to week to week
@@Blanktester685 naw personally I didn't run out of things to do, it sucked she the season story ended. But that gave me time to work on dungeons, complete challenges for bright dust, and get the few raid I can do with my friends because of my work schedule.
Crazy part to me is that if Bungie gave everything on day one, people would complain there's nothing to do or look forward to. I'm not saying Episodes will be amazing, but having something new every 6 weeks sounds pretty good to me, especially if it's high quality and is bringing new weapons and unlocks too. Have a feeling the game might feel busier more often with this, but we'll just have to see
Cross is apart of the machine at this point. When u hitch your content creator career to a franchise like this, u throw softball complaints like he’s doing and completely lose touch with the casual gamer which this game and his channel, was build from
Makes sense. Why would you go crazy in an episode where youve released an expansion? Fuck a majority of people complaining probably havnt done everything in TFS.
