Destiny 2 has a New Weapon Problem 

Bungie: "We power crept most mods that players use by increasing damage numbers across the board. This is good. Due to this change, and the fact that we want more gun and build diversity, we are removing damage mods from the game." Also Bungie, probably: "How come PvE players are only using back up mag?" Bruh

While we're at it, can we get rid of the negatives from adept mods? Most people don't even use adepts period, so why does something like adept back up mag also have a -15 handling tradeoff?

They wanted to get rid of people only using the spec mods and now the problem is worse because people are all running one mod instead of at least choosing between minor major and boss

Another thing is a mod that basically makes all weapons kinda function as kinetics. Lowe the amount gained, but allow them to give progress to BOTH sides of the transcendence bar. And then buff how much it gives to kinetics.

Sprint grip helps keep speed booster up on Arc

There are no mods, weapons or builds made in Destiny that can overcome the throttling Chickens…

Tuned optics: +7 zoom Cqb optics: -10 zoom Hairpin trigger: +8% ROF (primary only) Bandolier: +1 reserve Targeting optics: Applies target finder effect to scopes. Tuned barrel: reduces hip fire bloom. Power pack: Activates traits on orb pickup Anti armor casing: +5 impact damage, -20 blast radius (explosives). Piercing rounds: Applies piercing. Balance rounds: Dark weapons do more damage to light afflicted enemies and vice versa. Cheap ammo: Finds more ammo, double special; this weapon will gain more ammo over the other. Lightweight materials: +8 handling speed, +1 movement speed. Friction Grips: -70% visual recoil (coldheart for ex.)

Don't forget quick access sling on things like rockets or dps loadout swaps for faster damage rotations

Ah so THAT'S why all my weapons had missing mod slots. I hadnt played in like half a year and I was confused when looking through my vault.

I really like the recoil and hip fire ones on the right weapons. Oh and sprint grip too sometimes

Bungie really did kill off the weapons mod system for pve...

The only other mod is Quick Access... yeah idk. Everything we could ask for is in our armor. Outside of +10 Reload, maybe partial reload mods.

I use Counterbalance Mod on my Snipers. I am just terrible at keeping my sights steady. I am not like others, who can run, aim, and snipe a target in a second (lol)

As someone that uses hip fire on some guns when backup gives like 1 ammo to a 30 round, and has also messed with the ready speed ones, they kinda slap for things where you run a lot, like excision and the add clear Encounters in raids like totems or caretaker

I think they should return an old ability of masterworking weapons as a mod, making an orb of Power on rapid kills.

They said they realize backup mag is pretty much going to be the only used mod, but that they’re formulating what exactly a weapon mod should do for the guns in the game. Probably see something going into the next two episodes

They should add weapon siphon mods to the weapon mod slot

I did find one good use of counterbalance being: playing on controller with a rapid/multi hit gun that rolls with headstone. Just to absolutely make sure you get the crit on more unwieldy weapons and get perfect straight upwards recoil. Or maybe just me because I have weird sensitivity settings, with max on unscoped, and almost min on scoped.

I just want either the ability to get orbs on weapons again, the ability to swap element, or combine the primary and secondary slots into one large 18 slot page so can doubble up on solar weapons etc.

Idk man I'm still salty about loosing spec mods for adept weapons.

The fast mag sounds amazing to me tbh

Someone had an idea which I thought was pretty good: why not make mods based off of bad/underutilized/retired weapon perks? For example, a Thresh mod was suggested, where it could be like “Kills with this weapon give a small amount of Super energy,” or maybe an Underdog perk, like “When you reach critical health, this weapon’s magazine is fully reloaded.” Now, of course, this would only be with perks that gave little to no effect in the first place, as Underdog and Thresh do. Maybe they wouldn’t be as powerful as the OG perks, but it would be a way to bring them back into the fray in at least some way. Maybe this is just more power creep, but idk, I thought it was nice.

Panic Magwell: +10 reload speed when shields deplete Aftermarket Muzzle: +3/maybe 4, to range Illegal Sights: highlight targets and specific data about them (Hive Guardians would be highlighted yellow when they have a super active, same for PvP) Polybionix Foregrip: slight boost to stability and recoil direction the longer you shoot the weapon without unADSing

With how fast I’m burning glimmer now, I’ll take that mod all day 😂

dont sleep on Target Adjuster for Triple Tap or Fourth Times The Charm guns, the ammo you reclaim with the additional precision shots will be far more than backup mag

Free hand grip should increase rate of fire as well from the hip. For maximum cowboy feel.

i have been wanting a speed reload bonus since forever, beats me why we dont have it yet, there is so much stuff that would make the experience feel better but its bungie what we are talking about here so.... yeah

Don't remember the proper name, but the quick swap mod on auto-loading weapons or utility weapons is pretty great actually. Quick swap to your auto-loading blinding grenade launcher, or your chill clip riptide, then swap back to your damage weapon after blinding or freezing your target.

I use: Counterbalance to boost fast firing weapons to 100 RD. Targeting Adjuster to boost slow firing weapons for better headshots. Quick-Access Sling for weapons usually used in-between gameplay. Backup Mag for everything else.

Maybe it’s just me but I use quick access sling on most weapons, especially for dps rotations. It just feels nicer to have the weapons come draw faster even if there is minimal usage for it outside of pvp and dps

I now have a legitimate excuse to put counterbalance on my midnight coup, that recoil direction is awful.

Bump loader definitely needs to be a percentage so large magazines feel the appropriate effect. All great ideas though.

One annoying thing about backup mags i found out is that it can eat up/lower the reserves of some weapons, notably LFRs, which make them even worse than if you just gave them any of the other lackluster mods

The reload speed, glimmer/xp booster, and steady ground mods seem like reasonable additions. The bump loader may be a bit more powerful than anticipated and the prismatic mod seems *way* too unique to simply use as an interchangeable mod.

One mod we NEED Is what I call Osmio Mag turns the weapon to the same element as your subclass, i feel kinetic weapons are kind of obsolete and mods like this would help.

Heavy fluted barrel adding 2 points to range for every ten points in range so if you have 70 range it will become 84

This is kind of a niche complaint because counterbalance mod does help for some guns that can't get a 90-100 recoil and freehand helps with GLs to be more accurate while saving time on weapon swaps. Even the airborne one is helpful for the Witness boss fight since you're considered to be airborne.

I'd like mods that change the sights slightly. I love sights that highlight targets or come with an ammo counter, I'd like to be able to add that to a weapon. Or be able to do that with weapon crafting. I have way too many Ascendent Materials lying around, I need new things to do at the spooky crafting table.

I personally always had a major spec on my guns, when i came back to play final shape i was so confused as to where they disappeared

I use the stability mod on auto rifles, machine guns, and sub machine guns. I've trained myself since call of duty to compulsively reload. So, I only use back up mag on like grenade launchers, snipers, and such. I like the reload speed perk idea though.

i have one gun that backup mag actually makes a difference on and I can proc kinetic tremors 1 extra time every other gun ive tried it doesnt do much, and for focused fury it makes it harder to proc etc

And where do you get them?

A lot of these run into similar issues that the damage mods did, that being you can’t use other mods

Hip fire grip is very useful on the last encounter of the raid, Using a Linear fusion, you can still precision hit the boss and still see the boss' attack pattern.

i like the option between backup mag and quick access more than the option between spec and nothing else lmfao

I beat the campaign on legendary and all of act one, I've reset Zavala and Shaxx twice and I haven't seen any of those new mods appear anywhere. What content do you have to do to unlock them?

Steady ground may get shot down because unflinching mods exist but bump loader and speed mag will definitely see usage, though bump loader will need to scale with archetype. All GLs and Rockets would load 1 (If they even get bump loader). LFRs, FRs, Snipers and Glaives would get 2, Rocket sidearm 3-4, Trace rifles and LMGs would get like 15 (think 1/5th of the mag). Ammo reload that's archetype dependant means its a viable option to weapons with bigger mags instead of always picking fast mag. Do you only fire your LMG in short bursts to ad clear where a bump mag just tops things off instead of needing to reload the whole thing. OR are you dumping it on bosses which warrants a fast reload to make sure it's always ready (can be synergised with field prep). Rolls like target lock, recon, rewind rounds, killing tally will influence what you pick too. LMGs are the example because most archetypes mag total size means you only need an average of 1-2 loaded back in from bump loader.

it does mean some of the guns frel a lot more useable with counterbalance mods, where before i wouldnt want to use a primary weapon with like 70 recoil direction

I have been feeling a bit lost on what mod to chose lately

Freehand Grip is actually god tier on glaives ngl

Freehand grip is actually really good for The Witness.

I think adding range, reload, handling mods would be awesome

The fast mag mod is genius

Bungies foresight never ceases to amaze me

kinda epic that icarus grip now decreases ready and stow animation

Back up mag and quick access sling are all you need now :)

I think they said that they would add more later.

Fast Mag sounds fantastic

Smart sights? Never seen it before.

I use counterbalance stock if the recoil direction is terrible out of the gate. But if it’s at least 75 I’ll consider backup mag. I don’t think I ever use the other mods now.

Weapons mods should be a weapon perk we get to slot into the weapon. Not as powerful as the other two mods but kinda of powerful

Yea, I was thinking of reload speed as well.

How do you even get half of those mods?

We need more mods that give us a boost to our specs. Impact, Range, Stability, Handling, Reload, RPM, etc. Plus, we need weapon mod slots on our exotics.

I got one for kinetics. All the elements. Like solar,void,arc,stasis,and strand rounds. Just turns your kinetic into that element.

These are good, I especially like the Prismatic one. But Fast Mag wouldn't exist since we already have Adept Mag. Not to mention, it's clear that Bungie only wants Adept weapons to have access to stat boosting mods.

I would never use any of these except for maybe prismatic thingie just for more siphons.

Bump loader would be insane on rockets if you can build into it. I like it

Backup Mag and Quick Acces are the only mods really worth anything now.

I like the idea of these mods, i also like the idea of something that gives flat boosts to each parameter. They could also have some synergy with subclass choice. eg another method for class buffs or debuffs, like breaking an enemy shield with a matching element granting a debuff like blind or a limited supression burst in a small area (obviously balanced accordingly to what it does) you could also make said weapon boost the transient gauge when doing specific things like precision damage or kills. These wouldn't boost the weapons damage directly but would give some buildcrafting options.

Better yet for bumpload: call it roadkill. Meat (dead body) isn't worth much but good'n'nuff for roadkill jerky (a bullet)

You on the right track, but this would make Prismatic Affinity basically the new meta for PVP and PVE and, once again, destroy the balance

You forgot the best weapon mod of all time. I now have no reason not to use sweaty confetti

I absolutely don't know why Bungie hates people using their guns reliably. If I had a fucking space gun, I'd rather it working reliably the same way than having to dump it, modify it and change it every single second. And most of the time, changes simply take AWAY guns from rotations, while introducing 1 single gun that eveyone ends using. Case in point, Sunshot

They should just put siphon mods from heads into weapons mod slots

Hipfire grip is handy for rocket swapping

Honestly if they brought back rampage scec and firefly spec, along with other perks like for subclass verbs it might be a cool wait to enhance lesser perks

I want a stability one to compliment the recoil one. Because sometimes you already have 100rd and just want to reduce the recoil even further. No, it's not because 'skill issue' I can manage just fine, but not having to with a good gun is way better than suffering on purpose.

sir that's not what icarus grip does

Quick access sling is just really good.

Counter balance is actually huge. Alot of guns I would take 100 recoil direction over backup mag, easy.

All good ideas except decreased flinch while crouched. We don't need more crouching in PvP lol

Some really good ideas here actually, especially the prismatic affinity. Hate being restricted to a degree with surges in high end content and feel that would make a huge difference for players arsenal and freedom 💯

Counterbalance is good for playing on a controller and it makes the recoil more predictable on a weapon.

Domain expansion: sweaty confetti

Bunp loader should be restricted from single shot weapons, like rockets, or breech grenades

I also use the mod that improves ready and stow speed. Especially on heavy weapons like rockets and machine guns.

I miss those mods

the confetti mod is a good choice

They should add champion mods as weapon mods tbh

A reload speed boost would be great

I love your mod ideas. Prismatic affinity and bump would be major go tos for me

I think some perks like outlaw should just be made into mods or at least reworked

They should remove reload masterwork altogether and just give us a reload mod

Oh so THAT'S why the mod list looked different

Imagine not using sweaty confetti

The birthday party mod should also be able to be turned on and off and not consume the whole slot

Y'know what? Mods should be custom. A modification by definition is a personal touch or change someone makes to an existing thing, so by that definition, we should just sweep all of the mods from the list, and redesign the system to be custom for the player to determine what the benefits from the mod are. The player can choose one stat to increase between +5, or +10 to that stat. The difference being, that if you only take a +5, you can choose an additional effect from a list of different things, which would be like your Icarus Grip, Quick-Access Sling, and the ongoing list of reprised, reworked, or completely new mods. If you take the +10, your tradeoff is not getting a mod effect for the extra stat bonus.

"Quick Access Sling" helps with faster handling for Bait & Switch loadouts & similar Give us an Orb Of Power Mod that only activates on Full Masterwork weapons, like the good ol days Gives us mini-Warmind Mod back lol

Bumploader is 100% a hand cannon/rocket etc type mod. Garbage on something like an auto rifle or god forbid a pulse