Destiny 2 has become a Microtransaction Hell | Asmongold Reacts 

Patty! And yeah for a new light they just wouldn't know where to start

Patty is here too! Well said. Paying full price (when theyre not on sale) for dlcs more than a year ago is ridicolous, its so hard to convince new lights to buy a dlc if theres one really good weapon specific to that dlc, looking at you divinity and shadowkeep

Not to mention that the older DLCs that they're still selling at FULL PRICE have 95% of their content stripped out and deleted..

Game can go on sale and dlc but never dungeon keys. You can only buy the keys with silver or a deluxe edition.

I’ve had at least 4 friends try destiny 2 in the last year and all of them quit within 48 hours. I think after around the 4th time I said “Yea but you have to do this, this and this before you can do that” they just lost interest. Really sucks to be in this state

Seriously? I haven’t really played d2 since the original game came out. That’s fucked up. Tbh I stopped playing destiny when I realized that initial game they launched was basically an expansion. For $60. Glad I jumped ship because I guess it’s just gone downhill. I even remember bungie blaming micro transactions on Activision. Man I miss Destiny 1.

Nothing of value was lost.

@@joebk44 i quit the same exact time, for the same exact reason. I played Destiny 2 from launch every night with my roommate for a month or so, but then its just running down the same chorelist every week and its not fun. Then they released an expansion for $40 and I realized they are drip feeding the game for expansions every 3 months and thats not a model I want to play. Also, its a boring game after you get to the point where its just doing yhour weekly ingram checklist blah.

@@dakineprotoss Games as a service do always reach this point: Wow dailies, Apex weeklies, etc

I payed for d1 three times because of their bs. Along with a PlayStation store issue. After foresaken. I took a break, and when I came back have been completely lost, and have no clue where to start.

Barely anyone brings up the content vault. It's the worst case of anti-consumerism I've ever seen. It's bad when Fortnite does it with free content and it's about 1000x as bad when Destiny does it for PAID content.

I stopped a week after Lightfall because the bullshit from Bungie at this rate already buried you so deep you couldn't even see the sky. I was a diehard lover to Destiny and was a childhood gem, it broke my heart in so many ways once Bungie went down this road.

Same

the moment this happened in season of the deep i left

they could keep the scummy shit they do as long as we got a forsaken every year. But we only got that because of acti and the additional support from vicarious and the other dev teams. We got more quality content and the monetization was less than it isnow. Never thought id actually miss activision being involved but this is a prime example of the grass isnt always greener.

Not even remotely true.

Jokes on you, bungie did that before activision 😂😂😂 Activision never had the rights to decide such actions in the first place with destiny as a whole. Bungie was in control of everything basically. Stop excusing this bullshit

@@xSoulhunterDKx activision did have the rights to demand a return in investment though and all bungie was able to come up with is the "eververse" because "making content is hard" and another forsaken was never going to happen again

@@knightofnightside Activision wasn’t in control of dlcs and prices directly and what is being monetized. Bungie did that.

why? aztecross literally sponsored by asmons cock pc company starforge

Being honest, this video was like a perfect bait for him to react.

Rage baiting is the best way to get views

Slap that like button like yo momma taught ya right

We just need both of em on a Theo Von Podcast

Sad but true. And let's not forget PAID Early Access games that get microtransactions implemented before the rest of the game is finished. an ARPG on steam comes to mind that i forgot the name of.

​@alexdolezalu9066 have u noticed that the stores for these early access unfinished games generally work flawlessly but nothing else does 😂

I think its because Destiny is the leader in live service games, so almost every other gaming company is looking at what destiny does and taking notes so to speak. So anyone paying attention is looking at what bungie is doing even if they don't play the game.

@@Jabinc Nah, Fortnite is the leading live service game and the one that started the Battle Pass Madness, Collabs and Skin Packs

Yeah. Sadly, Destiny 2 is one of the earliest adopters of this model, and it's really been emblematic of the disappointment of the last ten years in gaming itself. Destiny has actually managed to put out good content every other year, but it's undeniable the monetization model (and poor initial releases) truly is the black mark on Destiny 2 and this era of gaming in general.

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True, however I will say Destiny's core gameplay is great. Too bad everything else sucks. Never got into it because of the awful story, monetization, etc etc

thats why i miss Destiny 1. Destiny 2 was a big let down for me as a HUGE destiny fan

Remember how happy we where when they split? O man how wrong we where, they are even scummier!

well they where the problem and then after they left bungie drop a banger like forsaken and then they slowly became what activision was

​@@itsyouuu3152 Nope, you can thank Activision for that Banger too. Their studios also did the seasons and Opulence is universally loved. The first thing Bungie did on their own was Shadowkeep, so the first genuinely good expansion they made (by themselves) is Witchqueen and everything else varying degrees of mediocrity

@@elseggs6504 dang

I mean. Bungie is doing a lot of Activision stuff now. They definitely learned from them. I hope it all works out. Because they have so much control now. They're not enslaved to whoever bought them. They are profitable

I remember making rune chainmail and being satisfied with that, knowing each little ingredient and level that went into rune plate. And when you made the chainmail, it was like no we're going back to weapons or another metal type, you don't just leap one armor to the next. Now we're out of the realm of cosmetics though..

This is exactly why I quit destiny I remember when I would hours or days grinding for exotics, armor and cosmetics only to see that they could just be purchased with zero effort later there is actually no point in even playing anymore

When getting a title meant something... game died for me the moment it went f2p.

Like in souls games with the white spirits of other players

@@Daniel-wz3yv Yeah they fucked up super bad setting light levels to 1000 off rip and locking old content behind dlc's. The light level thing literally made me quit on the spot. I was level 600 or something i think after playing for a good while about 3 years ago and came back to the game a year later. All my characters were lvl 1000, but the actual gear I had was garbage to continue playing the game. Reset my characters to "try again" and that shit didn't last more than a week

Hold the fuck on. Are you telling me there's no main campaign anymore?? I played for a few hours some years back, I don't even remember when, but I at least had a story mode to slog through.

The base game's campaign, the Red War, was "vaulted" when Beyond light (Y5, I think) was released. because the size of the game was "too much to manage".@@Ocelcinion

​@@Ocelcinionyeah it got content vaulted, it's not in the game anymore because "game too big guys". Reminder people payed €60 for that trash at launch

@@fel524not only that, I payed for both subsequent expansions (which were trash as well lmao) that also got vaulted, then bungie turned and sold all that shit again. This franchise is dead to me.

@@avaliantsoul5408 thats because they changed engines tf you mean... like bro please talk shit when you know the shit youre talking about. they are just too lazy to remake year 1-4 of destiny

I wanted to play the game, but when i noticed the expansions were going to be expensive themselves, i never got into it, cuz i saw i couldnt afford it then, and i cant afford it now, fuck gaming, i miss the days where it was fun and you didnt have to worry about how much money you had to have to play a game

​@@GhostlyShadowyou can take the older DLC for 12 euro and the eclipse DLC for like 20 euro at least one week ago

This shit is exactly what made me quit Destiny 2.

Oh, that thing you bought 3 years ago? You're not allowed to play it again. Why in the hell would any customer see that and not immediately rage is beyond me. We live amongst absolute idiots, and you should hate them.

​@@ekscalyburOh i do. People actually act like they did us a favor by removing shit we paid for then doubling the price of everthing going forward

@ekscalybur5247 it's why i stopped playing and why I probbably won't play marathon. The whole gaming industry is a shit show

I caught up quick with what was going to happen with the game. As soon as I got 2 absolutely shit DLCs in the deluxe edition (which I didn't even pay for, a friend got me the game to play together, and I still want "my" money back) and they announced more, I was out. It was even more ridiculous to see people saying how they "fixed" the game with Forsaken - like I'm going to spend ADDITIONAL $40 just play a game like it was supposed to be at launch. Nah man, I ain't sinking money into a game just to make it "good". Give me a good base experience and I'll consider dropping more for GOOD content. Unfortunately Bungie isn't doing the former and is inconsistent with the latter.

D1 was peak miss those days

@@Jacobb.. I remember wanting micro transaction cosmetics 😂 so excited for D1 taken gear. That was the beginning of the end.

fuck it im not. I still play destiny 1 every now and then, far more than I've ever played destiny 2, i immediately abandoned destiny 2 once the bullshit that curse of Osiris was, came out, i went back to it once forsaken came out, hoping that the game would FINALLY get completely new content, which it did for a short while but i lost interest again within the first couple years and even then later with the following dlcs, destiny 2 never made any kind of impact on me or drew my interest into the game consistently enough for the last 3-5 years now. I go back to the game solely when im bored out of my fucking mind (which is very rare for me since there are so many better single player and multiplayer out games anyway), but other than that i could care less for destiny 2. Players and content creators alike should've seen the writing on the fucking wall once the whole "free to play" aspect started with destiny 2, and now its finally making people realize how bone fucking dry destiny 2s pool of content actually is without microtransactions or purchased dlc content. Bungie has shit on the OG destiny community and the games eco system for the last several years now and i think its a good thing more people are dropping this sorry ass excuse of a continuation of destiny 1.🤷‍♂

I also stopped playing a couple seasons ago. I also started D1 day 1. I even convinced my friends to play it too after a few weeks, we all had a different class as our mains so it felt like we were like a standard fireteam . Fast forward a lot of years and we were all tired f what Destiny had become. The slow weekly story advancements, battlepasses, increase in price for cosmetics. the overal story (like how many times are we gonna beat some god only for it to be topped by another god) It's a shame what Destiny has become and that we decided we didn't had fun anymore we played for so long and cared about so much lore and stuff but now we don't care anymore

​@@ChickenJoe-tq6xddefinitely halo 3 custom games for me, halo ran so destiny could walk , Halo custom games and matchmaking in halo 3 was peak console gaming online wise , halo 3 , gears 1-3 , mw 2 , black ops 2 , Destiny was kind of a let down tbh, good game but not at all what bungie promised everyone

11:30 He starts explaining comparing to gacha games

Gah! Why would you bring that up?! I just finished blocking that from memory again!

You're giving me PTSD about that quest

That rant Gave me mad Fate vibes

Omg fuck that quest bro

Then buy games that do that. Plenty of them.

Why ? Are you a fanboy ?

@@skyj451 Because the Destiny content creator community is kind of insular. Not many of them are that well know outside of the destiny playerbase or generally even do anything aside from destiny content. So someone like Asmongold reacting to Destiny content is not something you see every day.

@@skyj451I’m a fan of them both ❤

@@skyj451says the fanboy 😂

No matter the game I go by dollar per hour. I've played for almost 4k hours and have spent nowhere near that so I'm gucci

They addicts but won’t admit

@@wilhelm2112ryan Delete your characters and you’ll realize how little you actually care. 15k in the game gone.

@@matthewcaimbeul8722 I'm not sure I follow. If I delete a character I still have played destiny for the same amount of time. I wouldn't delete characters as I have played on them for years at this point ( minus my hunter ). I'd delete any of my diablo 4 characters and not give a shit at all

It's called the sunk cost fallacy.

Activision poisoned them

I remember celebrating when they left activision. I think I prefer them being part of activision 😭

​@@zogwort1522space cowboy goes pew pew

@@zogwort1522Most people don’t use the armors as a set, you could make some interesting looks if you mix & match with other armors and shaders.

@@zogwort1522lol… what is a visually appealing game to you then? Anime girls with huge tits? 😭😭

Too bad the message is "oh well, sucks for D2 players, let's gooooo Marathon!". Like they won't do the *exact* same thing to that game. F Bungie, and I don't even play Destiny. I don't want to see this bs infect anymore games than it already has. It's a losing battle though.

@@zogwort1522 Then you must have seen people with ass Transmog

I’m surprise he didn’t mention the xp throttle incident they pulled destiny made a lot of greedy grimmey moves over the years I loved the game so much I would take the abuse but finally I said enough and had to retire my guardians

I was too, then I stopped playing when they forced you to buy new DLC packs to actually play anything…

It's funny to think back to all of the hope everyone had when Bungie split from Activision. Only to realize Bungie was the real villain all along.

​@@nimmer4749 destiny could be so much more, probably the opus magnum of bungie, corrupted by activision and lobotomised by bungie itself. I'm still gonna play marathon, since nobody does scifi games like bungie, not even close, tried to find several times, but the excitement that early destiny days gave me is all but dead

how do you survive in there?

It drives me nuts how expensive stuff is in some games. I booted up SWOTOR and a single weapon skin costs $20. Why would I spend that on a single skin? If I could spend that and buy 10+ shiny new toys I'd be much more willing to open my wallet. It's all just digital goods, why wouldn't you emphasize volume? I mean a whole expension in GW2 costs $30. Hell, 1 month of premium in SWTOR is $15. But $20 for a single skin that came out years ago? Yikes. Say what you want about crappy mobile games. But I've caved and paid for more than one cheap game because they offered piles of useful stuff for just $1 or $2 as a first purchase deal. Warframe gets me too with their 50% and 90% plat discounts on PC. I can spend $15 there and go absolutely ham on their online store, it's great.

A half baked truth and lies video will be his biggest video. Yep slimest Destiny RU-vidr. What a great video to remove context and act like certain things actually affect the average Destiny player. "Pay 2 Win" lmao what a shit ass section.

Rage bait is the way

@@Arctis326 So being honest about a game is rage baiting now?

@@immoralboi3158 People will always defend garbage if they're invested enough

Buys "Club pass" but "Club house" is $20 more

I agree, but sadly I know this won't change shit. Too many gaming companies care about money more than creating good games.

"how dire the issue is" brother its not dire its just annoying life is far to complicated and difficult for a video game monetization to be a dire situation for you

Dude if you play 750-1000 hours in a year it’s $0.10-$0.13 a HOUR for entertainment. If you waste money on cosmetics that’s your problem. I haven’t spent a dime on this game outside of DLC and have soooo many cosmetics and enjoy the game just fine. This is not a dire situation. The dire situation is people deciding to spend $10 for a damn skin.

​@@ChazzyPhizzle1 new people have 0 hours in the game and have to spend 400 fucking dollars to play the full game. And then they play the new light campaign and nope the fuck out. -400$

Holy shit. Full on addictive behavior. Hope they do ok.

Bro 80 hours a week is 14 hours a day wtf 💀

​@dunkawunka2278 do you realize who we are watching. Among has negative vitamin D

So basically a fortnite player

Even before Asmongold's attention to this, his video almost hit 1m views while his normal videos get around a 100k. He made a masterpiece.

@@Bazzabazeman Negativity sells

@@oxsilano he talked about some negative topics before and it didn’t hit like this video…

@@oxsilayes but negativity towards big corporations is always fun and cool, so this time it’s very justified.

​@@Bazzabazemanhe made negativity....that ALWAYS gets clicks

that's strictly in place so they can get you to spend $80 (or a extra 40) on the deluxe version. This game has the scummiest business model.

Dungeons have always been paid, Bungie gave us a free dungeon once as a gift and then went back to making them a paywall.

​@@JGburneraccountwell dungeons were included in the expansion you bought now they are separate lol

​@michael-pg8fi And that was just for witch queen. They upped the price this year despite the whole package being worse in quality.

Well u just have to add these things slowly and steady then they don’t mind some dropping out cuz most already paid for the game. Same will happen with Diablo 4 cuz it’s also an activities live of service.

@@Fadaar Ion know about that

Nobody ever mentions Clyde he is the goat

Sometimes heroes brush shoulders.

​@@JetskiChucKhe ain't got no neck

@@JetskiChucKdoesn’t he kill kittens or something? He shit talks everyone even though he’s been riding sweat’s coattails since they met

I don't think the people making this video have spent any true amount of time playing games if they think this is new

My mind still goes to Diablo 2 when people say this 😂😂😂😂

Haven't played since new light

Same

D2 will always be Diablo 2.

Same, I adore d2 so much, but fuck thos video needed to be made, and with how Asmon talks about microtransactions n stuff I was interested to hear his take

People who claim that slippery slopes aren't real are trying to gaslight you as they push you down the proverbial slippery slope.

​@@aznhomigPrecisely. I heard once that the slippery slope argument is only a fallacy if you have no evidence of prior behavior. If u do, then its an obvious pattern.

The "slippery slope fallacy" doesn't mean slippery slopes don't exist. It's a fallacy when you claim a slippery slope exists without sufficient reason to believe it. Slippery slopes absolutely exist, nazi Germany was an example of a slippery slope

Destiny 1 isn't playable at all anymore right?

@@Kr4v3rd Not sure, honestly last time I played it was on the xbox 360 a decade ago

Yea quit playing destiny but still watch some of his stuff

It's the energy he has. Shits contagious

Destiny doesn't deserve Cross tbh that man is a goat lmao

If he branches out that guy can be as big as Tim the tat man, Doc, Nickmercs Ect.

​@@Herringboneri think asmon reacting positively to him and subbing on stream will be that bridge. Hopefully anyways. Love aztecross

Feels good being free 🙌

I can't believe the game got worse. I stopped playing in Forsaken for good and I couldn't believe DUNGEON KEYS are a fucking thing

@@ISesseriI What happends if you stop playing the dungeons

​@@-The-Golden-God-brother we're all free, they showed they're true colors last season and now it's way worse lol

Competitive pvp????? YOU SERious LMaoooooooo.

​@@N.O.A_YTit had in D1 especially in the Taken King. There was a very elite and competetive scene around trials

@@N.O.A_YT at some point in destiny history the pvp was very good, trials was sick content

​@@N.O.A_YTpeople are wild, PvP was never competitive lol I'm with you on this. Going to die on this hill

@@N.O.A_YT Trials was unironically a starting point for some major pvp streamers prior to fortnite and pubg

Most of the Destiny 2 content creators are gladhanding cowards, all pretending to be friends in order to climb the greasy pole. They would glady shank Aztecross in the back if they thought it meant they could take his place in the community and get further in with Bungie, problem is we all love Cross, so they stay quiet as they rightfully should. If Cross was less popular, they'd have been doing what they did to SayNoToRage, which... people talk about cancelling and stuff, what they did to him was obscene.

​@@WozLeedatto giving bungie sloppy every time they add some new shit to buy

@@WozLee Yea Lono got the short end of the stick. He gave off kinda sorta creepy vibes with a few girls in the community, one who happens to be married to a Bungie VP, and they banned him from the community and game. I was thinking he had at least harassed or abused someone, but no! Such a pathetic circle of people.

​@@zachrohler1047Why I said some of these guys are getting flown out in secret, like IG models and shown shit WAY ahead of time (like the dude who was dropping spoilers and got too comfortable recently).

@@zachrohler1047 I don't really like the guy but that statement is just false. Datto literally have been complaining about how scummy destiny's microtransactions since 7 years ago.

As someone who just got into it a month or two ago I had to read the reddit FAQ on what each purchase gets me and Google extensively to see what I needed. That willingness to research alone already sets me apart from most players so I'm in a very small minority of potential new players who will actually stick around. Bungie needs to change it.

​​​@@iinsomniaaaaabungie should first stop deleting content from the game. 😂 everything from Vanilla game to 2018 expansion are gone. You can still buy them on steam, but they add nothing. There is no game to play. 😂 Free to play content in Destiny 2 is just Destiny 1 content. 😂 And every expansion you have bought gets deleted when new expansion comes in. So you can't even replay the game, because content is not there anymore. 😂 they scam you.

​@@iinsomniaaaaanot to mention you have limited time to enjoy expansion before it get deleted. Because it gets deleted. 😂 like Forsaken DLC is not there anymore. You can buy it. But that campain and weapons and places regard to that campain are deleted.

​@@MikkoSimilaI started on Forsaken, the 1st explanation, and they had ALREADY deleted huge portions of the campaign. It's crazy that the game is still alive at all, much less still making money.

Destiny 2 was one of my first XBox One games. I had a lot of fun with the first raids and liked using the currency to get the shaders from the store. It was MTX for cosmetics only back then. I don't remember buying a battle pass. Actually really sad to see the state of the game now. I loved guns like Sweet Business for questing and it's crazy to see them recycling old exotics as "new" content.

You do need to worry, or at least be annoyed by, the event pass being waved in front of you every season.

This is well said

@@SkellyHertz just dont play the events, theyre garbage anyway

Yes and no, the dungeons are extra content we never used to get we get 2 a year more work = we need to get paid! what if they just increased the cost of the seasons but only those including a dungeon? People would lose their minds! Just as they have now with the relatively small price increase. I agree it’s confusing and badly done and The fragmentation of legacy content is bad but also bungie knows that they specifically said the next on boarding point would be after light and dark ends. What’s the solution we don’t want to pay for it? Then they will stop making it saying that the 30th anniversary would of been free in d1 is BS because there were massive content droughts in d1 they simply wouldn’t of made it!

Not only that but for the balkans the game is still full price, meaning those countries are paying 4x the amount for the same content as everybody else. Imagine you want to play a game but you have to buy 3 of your friends the same game, thats the price.

And the raid you actually bought. And another raid you actually bought. And another raid you actually bought. And another raid you actually bought. And another raid you actually bought. Literally. 5 raids have been removed (leviathan, eater of worlds, spire of stars, scourge of the past, and crown of sorrow.)

they removed content that people paid for and the frogs stayed in the pot, well most of them.

@@MusMasi Because most of the "frogs" had already done that content to death. Removing an old raid like Scourge of the Past sucks, it makes the game less of a value proposition for new players, and creates massive contextual holes that get plugged in the laziest ways imaginable. Back in the day if you wanted the Whisper of the Worm sniper rifle you went on this awesome mission to find a hidden portal that only spawns in certain circumstances, then you have a timed jumping puzzle to complete that finished in a massive boss fight, which not only gave you the gun, but also unlocked the master mode of that mission which you could farm for the catalyst and achievements to get the best looking ship in the game. Now, because they removed the planet that mission was on, and the mission itself, if you want to get the Whisper of the Worm sniper rifle? You go out and do the most monotonous content you could image, save up resources which as a new player you need for literally everything, and in huge quantities... and you buy it from a vendor. Almost every exotic weapon in that kiosk used to have some kind of mission or event tied to it, and they were all removed, so that the content they were attached to could be dismantled, repackaged and sold back to us, saving costs and dev time whilst Bungie apparently plough all their resources into Marathon. All of these things suck, but they really don't affect veteran players that much. For us it's the principal more than anything. This is why I find it so hard to recommend Destiny to people, because whilst I would happily recommend the experience I had, that experience is unavailable to anyone playing the game today, and the experience that's on offer? The entire New Light experience? You'd have to be a masochist to put yourself through that.

​@@WozLeeThe problem with this video is he doesn't go out and say anything positive about anything so he just looks like a ranter. He also doesn't go into any detail with most of the problems with the game, probably because he himself has no clue. Basically to me who also still plays every once in a while I know what's been sunset, what not to do etc, but he for some reason has no idea of anything

100%what stopped me from buying it. I heard I couldn't actually play what I missed out on, and realized I only wanted in on what I heard about, not what was new

Same even made a tribute vid for d1 . Stopped playing d2 sadly .

Same man. When I took a break during d2 I had to drop like $200 on dlc

Right there with you.

Fellow day 0 player and a voidlock as well, I'm finishing the final shape and I'm done with bungie after that. I've watched the lore over the years and loved the mystery at first, but after I applied skepticism I realized mystery wad a thinly veiled disguise for laziness and a lack of a coherent story with more plotholes than Swiss cheese. I played WoW for over a decade before I quit and destiny feels the exact same to me, its predatory and disgusting to see.

I remember playing the pve alpha and getting excited over playing in the beginning earth area and having 20 minutes of stuff to do lol

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Had no interest in Destiny 1 or 2 and heard they had issues and whatever, but 2 seemed to get better and I saw it on for a pretty good sale with expansions so I bought them against my better judgement. Not long after they gave the game and expansions out for free because they were planning on deleting them for the new expansions. I managed to go through the main story but I didn't get to touch any of the expansions I paid for before they were deleted and I never bothered playing the game again. Im glad I quit before I really got into the game. Still mad I got robbed of 60 dollars.

Yup additionally I go by the Opinion of Red War being the single BEST Destiny Campaign and it got removed

Basically they removed a bunch of planets and content so they can use it in future for seasonal content lol. They just reskin it and hope noone notices. It's crazy

Dude i had no idea they removed old campaigns. I'm never going back to that game.

​@@ThesavagesoulsI started playing at the first expansion (of 5 so far), and they had ALREADY deleted huge portions of the campaign because of the stupid way they forced the single player campaign to be part of the multiplayer world, which is constantly changing. I skipped an expansion & tried to get back in, & it was a nightmare trying to figure out what you were supposed to be going. Literally impossible to follow any part of the story because they're constantly deleting things.

Don't forget, they took what should have been raid cosmetics and put them in the cash shop in Shadowkeep.

gone are the days you can show off a cosmetic you achieved by playing the game

I'm with you there. Pattycake comes number 2 for me

I stopped playing at the end of S19 (which was really great and reason why I wanted to finish it) and i also still watch him and some other creators just because they are great creators. Destinys content creators im general are really great. Aztecross, Wallah, Datto, Fallout, etc. These guys saved the game many times for me actually.

You shouldn't. Like if anybody just buys out cosmetics, expansions and what so not just to get into it, that's the equivalent of throwing your money in the garbage bin. Like at that point, just donate it to a homeless person with a drug addiction. On the other hand if you spend roughly a couple of weeks or a month or so to see if you want to play the game, then you can decide to invest for your own consumption. It's business and only a product. By the time you're in your 60s, that money is digitally wasted, t'was good trip though.

Bet your going to have people pay $100 for gta6 lol

Plug in the old ps2 and play some Socom

This is why I'm mostly done with western devs. They might occasionally put out something good, and I hope for that, but if they're not indies, I stick to japanese devs. They still care about quality products, not endless monetization.

As long as the zombie is Ed and I can go out in my shed and sort of play playstation with him

This was eloquently put

its wild to me that ea of all companies released a no nonsense no microtransaction single player game in 2023

Yep, that's my biggest issue.

This is when I realized Asmon rocked a ponytail 😅

And how much is that in actual money?

@@FelisImpurrator So if its around $10usd for 1,000 silver. so thats like $3,600 USD give or take.

@@omniadoc Man. That's nasty.

None of the stuff you can buy in the store has any effect on gameplay. I know Cross makes the argument that loot is the endgame so it’s “pay to win,” since loot is “winning” but the cosmetics you get from the store are aesthetic only. It’s ludicrous to say that d2 is pay to win. Unless you mean paying for the game itself, which is… most games? The real shit that you need, that you want, comes from playing the game. I don’t know why people are acting like micro transactions are brand new… every live service game has it, and a lot are much worse than this. Inclusion of season pass was just an optics shift. Before season passes, before the game was “free to play,” you’d simply buy the season, buy the content. You’d still get all the same shit, it was just dispersed through vendors and challenges and stuff. When the game went “free to play,” they introduced the season pass ladder. Same content, same price. But now instead of buying the season you’re buying the season pass. No difference in content. But the “season pass” has a much more negative imprint. They should’ve never gone free to play, because it isn’t really, and just confused things even more. The seasonal armor you get in Season of the Deep (by playing the game) is some of the best armor they’ve ever released in the game. I’m not even rank 100 yet (used to get there in a week or two) after a month and a half of the Season. But I’ll still get the coolest armor by playing a few hours a week. Barely a grind.

@@AETHEREALMINDS I know its all cosmetic and it has no impact on game play and you dont need to spend a single dime in it. I haven't. But the point is that Bungie is putting a most of their effort or time on the store instead of elsewhere. And lastly, I just rough calculated the store total just for information. No one is going to buy everything from the store.

Money corrupts, Bungie seen all that money Activision was making off of them and Bungie said they wanted ALL of the money. And now that they have Sony over them and allows them to not only continue their business practices, but also highly encourages them to do so. Times are changing, it’s simply the way how things are now.

You can always go and get your money back

Till yhey stsrted getting bad review and less sales

yup. any game thats a service. thats always online or something like that? i try not to get too invested in it. cause one day itll just be gone and you can never play it again.

Those stash tabs save you a considerable amount of time, and enable trade with other players, both of which indirectly increase player power by a factor of like x10? It is an INSANE power advantage.

@@MyNameIsSalo Only the premium stash tabs, allow you to trade. Trading doesn't give you power. You need currency to trade. Which leads back to playing the game, to get power. You can't buy Stash Tabs, then trade for the best gear. Once you install the game, buy the stash tabs, you can't buy power to easily beat the game.

Bungie isn't interested in having a conversation, doesn't matter how much people complain. We can only make a statement by not spending $, but people are terrible about not spending $ on games so it's never going to happen lol

​@@petervalvo1186Bungie is too busy being woke

​@@gerarddddno they're too busy making money don't be stupid lol

@@petervalvo1186 the people complaining aren't the people that're buying up bungie's stuff, so bungie doesn't care lol. Only thing that'll get them to stop if the whales stop buying

@@gerardddd Can you morons stop using buzzwords incorrectly lmao

this thing started on year 3 but wasn't this bad. Y2 of D2 was the best one in entire destiny era

Same.

just stop playing Destiny man, its not worth it.

@@115DELDEI have to see the end man

@@115DELDEno other game has raids/dungeons in an FPS format sadly. If another game does those specifically I’ll consider quitting.

dude , they have never put our a new enemy race.. NEVER!!! only re-skins.

There's new items in the shop tho ^_^ 💀 😔

what was scorn? @@bellcross9985

Don't forget to mention that they keep nerfing high skill ceiling weapons just to cater to the cry baby casuals in PVP.

P and

who cares anymore. if people had an ounce of integrity they would abandon bungie regardless of any "acknowledgement" at this point. can get stabbed in the back only so many times before having to admit that they are purely acquisitive

@@Fefnefef That's the incorrect mentality to have. Why just abandon something, if you still enjoy it? Just abandoning it won't solve anything, it'll just make the entire game we all enjoy disappear. We just need to not purchase anything, until they fix it. The problem is, these addicts won't stop buying stuff.

@@Fefnefef -fill their coffers so I can get Marathon- They are fixing everything as we speak. Just be happy you can still login for free. The excitement and satisfaction just from logging in is great on its own.

I bemoaned this years ago and was met with the response "but the devs have to fund the game". Now look at where we're at, spend $30 for a dev-designed outfit to stand out from the crowd and people complain that there's nothing to grind for anymore cosmetically... yayyyy.

You aren’t alone. “It’s just cosmetic” was always a bad argument, because cosmetics are an important part of games. I would argue just as important as gameplay. I mean people would be pissed if something like playing a female character or a black character was locked behind a paywall, but strictly speaking that’s just cosmetic. Digital self-expression is important (note: I’m not saying playing as a pre-designed character is bad, or less than a customized character). Cosmetics, are important. If they weren’t, people wouldn’t spend so much on them.

Nothing but facts

Yea this is fucked another reason why I stopped playing literally the only game to charge the player money for fucking transmog is unreal

sunsetting planets was it for me, taking away content we payed for

@@TheOneSivalusbUt nObOdy pLaYS iT!!

Good decision, we all should stop supporting these bullshit greedy live service games that's ruining the AAA game industry and just play good single player games. On the other note, If you're a fan of the series, you should continue with kiwami 1 and kiwami 2. They're not as good as 0 but still a fun yakuza games nonetheless. I've also heard good things about 3-6, but haven't had the chance to play them. I'm currently playing yakuza 7 tho, the new turn based combat is very refreshing and it's on the way of becoming my favourite yakuza game like zero haha

I’ve been playing this series too I’m on Kiwami 2 it’s extremely fun

​@@yyyhhh8481You're barking up the wrong tree here

70 hours in one week?

@@kingofrannoch A week or so, anyway...