Why Woke Characters SUCK | Asmongold Reacts 

"so tell me about your character?" "shes interracial" "okay..whats her story?" "Shes woman" "...okay...whats her motivation?" "Shes a lesbian"

The simple reason is they aren't characters, they are merely self inserts and vehicles for the writers personal issues.

if woke writers created a D&D character sheet for their characters, all you would see filled in is appearance and minor details about their ethnicity/sexuality. the entire bio section meant to explain their backstory, personality and motivations would be completely blank.

Asmongold is missing the fact that people can relate to characters based on their struggles. They don’t need them to look like them or be short and fat.

Fans didn't ruin diversity in entertainment. The writers/producers did, then gaslighted the fans.

The thing with Rey is that the criticism always was mainly about her being a bad character with bad writing. It was her defenders who insisted on her being a woman to be the main talking point.

Creed was his own character with his own story. He wasn't reduced to just "black Rocky", even though their were parallels Creed was a story about a man striving for greatness through self improvement. Skin color doesn't matter and they didn't focus on it.

I think the difference between what guys like Ditko and Kirby did with Spider-Man and The Thing and what modern writers do is that they would base the characters on their actual selfs and experiences but would treat the characters as a son. Modern writers write like it’s a revenge fantasy starting off explaining why the world is wrong and hates them and by the end they have powers because they are them and they needed to do to be happy show how they were the best all along. I’m actually surprised we haven’t gotten a random girl picking up Thor’s hammer “only she can determine her worth” or some other self aggrandizing nonsense.

Imagine making a character after yourself and being told they suck. No wonder these people are mad all the time, they're realizing that everyone hates them

Toph Beifong is the absolute gold standard of all diversity characters that all other examples should strive for. While she is female, Asian, and blind, these aren't nearly as much of her identity as her being a smart talking badass. She does bring up her blindness pretty often, but mostly only when it's genuinely an issue for her, as she's so competent in every other regard that people tend to forget that for whenever it does present an issue.

My husband and I struggled with Castlevania: Nocturne for numerous reasons, but ultimately gave up on it because of Annette. Her backstory was compelling, but she was COMPLETELY changed from how she is in the games, originally being a pale-skinned blonde girl with a very different origin story. The show changed her race, origin, personality, and storyline - only keeping her name. They should have just renamed her and made her a completely new character. Yes, Isaac had been changed from the source material in the original show, but he was also significantly less annoying, his introduction and story well paced. We learned everything we needed to know about Annette in a single episode dedicated solely to her being sad and monologuing about a dead guy who never mattered in the first place.

Because Ridley was a badass survivor, Wonder Woman's backstory was supposed to be her distrust against men, but Rey... the only thing I've seen that makes her a problem is that she's doing so much so fast, she didn't need a master unlike luke or ahsoka but somehow she still succeeds in some reason

I think when gender and sexuality becomes a problem with characters is when they’re so flat that their personality becomes that trait. Like they can’t go five minutes without them announcing it because that’s all there is to the character.

Being "woke" Isn't just being supportive of minorities or women, it's using things like race and gender to shield themselves from criticism. And using it as an excuse to be bigoted towards people you disagree with

I recently rewatched Pirates of the Carribean and I was ASTONISHED by the presentation of Elisabeth Swan in the original trilogy. She's much smarter than pretty much everybody else, often tricking and playing other people to gain leverage, and on top of that she's just as (and sometimes more) competent in a fight as other characters. But she has flaws, namely she often makes illogical decisions due to emotional factors or lack of information, and has difficulty inspiring authority until the last movie. Literally one of the best written female characters in fiction. Literally all Hollywood has to do is write characters like that.

The reason that the woke mentality forces bad writing is because of the rules of it. For example you cannot show a woman as weak or in distress because thats bad. But those things are also an endemic part of the heroes journey. Wokeness holds back important aspects to storytelling and drama by design, making bad writing a feature not a bug in wokeness. It applies artifical rules that hold back writers and the creative process. Rather than focusing on what makes a compelling story the concern is about toeing the line of rapidly changing rules that have nothing to do with actually writing a good story.

Having Luke attempt to murder his own conflicted nephew was insane. After it's already been established that he was willing to die to redeem the second most evil man in the universe. It's like it was done purposefully just to stir shit up among fans. Can't believe that's part of the story arc now and you can see why Mark Hamill just shit on the movie nonstop. Absolutely butchered a great character that I'm sure meant a lot to him.

Woke or no, they really did Finn dirty. That first film starts off with his story and it's an interesting new angle we haven't seen before and he has so much potential for character growth but they sideline him immediately for Rey :(

The problem isn’t the storytelling, the problem isn’t the woke characters, the problem isn’t the women. It’s the woke writers telling the stories who are all women. They’re the problem. You can’t say Deadpool dating a non-binary character isn’t a big deal, sure in isolation I agree. But it’s every fucking marvel character now, it’s every comic book, movie, show, video game, etc.

Some of my favorite piece of litterature I've read were self-inserts, the kind where the author is literally isekaied. The authors were just very aware of themselves, their flaws, their strengths... So essentially they're just another character with the plot point of being completely out of their element. And as someone who loves reading about cultures clash, "fish out of water" scenario, and outside context problems, those kind of self-insert are basically the only place I can consistently read what I like. The overwhelming majority of self-insert are still shit though, but Disney and their pals can't argue that they can't afford someone who knows what they're doing. They just don't care : make movie, name it "Star Wars", and make profit is what they thought, and it turns out they were right.

Another thing that's becoming noticible is that many of these new characters inserted into the legacies of previous characters usually come from places of extreme spite for the source material and customers.

100% agreed. Problem isn't the characters. The problem is that the sort of writers and producers constantly worried about being politically correct naturally ends up creating a terrible product.

A character originally written as black is not wokeness but a character originally white and turned into another race is wokeness.

I love how AG contradicts himself within 30 seconds of the video starting lol😂 Short fat girls don't deserve their own thing because a bunch of Twitter accounts said they do. That's the problem here. Tweets don't equal purchases. If they really liked the product they would take it for what it is and what made it popular, not demanding changes in outrage posts.

That actually could've been interesting. If Rey embraced the last name of Palpatine and used it to rebuild the Jedi Order. Showed that bloodlines don't always have to make you follow certain paths. She can rise above the sinister past of the Emperor. But they were too focused on destroying whatever was left. Calling herself Skywalker was just weird.

Kathleen: "The force is female!" Asmon: "Yeah, I don't think this has anything to do with being woke."

I can't believe you said you don't know Starfire, she was one of my favorite characters when i was a kid. She's an alien species from the DC universe & she had a thing with one of the Robins that later grows to become Night Wing. She's was from a warrior/Barbarian race & Dick Grayson was from a family of Acrobats. How they would have an overweight grumpy child? Dick was the the heart of the Robins & Starfire was one of the gentlest characters.

"I am not Starfire" is a character assassination of Starfire and Dick Grayson. No way those two would raise a daughter like that, because only bad people can raise bad people, and Mandy is a bad person.

I'm sure an AI can write a more compelling character than any of these soulless corporations.

The bride from Kill Bill has always been one of my favorite characters and I'm a guy. I never once thought of her as a "strong female character". I always just thought she was badass and likeable.

It DOES have to do with being woke though. There's a literal checklist that Disney uses to produce these "strong, female characters" and it includes removing literally every aspect of what makes a character compelling, along with several other diversity and feminist pillars: there _has_ to (even at the expense of the talent and quality of the production) an even distribution of racial and gender-based characters (except for white people; there can be little to none of those), majority of men in the female-led movies are depicted as wholly incompetent, evil, and/or inept, the female characters cannot be saved by men, they can't have learned anything or have anything explained or mansplained to them (which is so sexist it's laughable), female characters cannot have any perceived weaknesses or significant struggles, it's perfectly acceptable and even encouraged for female characters to demean or diminish their male counterparts for the sake of propping up the female characters, female characters must be stoic, strong and essentially adopt all the "toxic" masculine characteristics they're absolutely against depicting in men, love and motherhood is seen as "weak" and unimportant compared to being a leader and business/political-related accomplishments, etc. Go through anything female-led produced in the last 5+ years, especially from Disney: you'll not have to look hard to find these attributes. And it doesn't need to be that way in order to have great, "strong" female characters. As you pointed out, Ellen Ripley from Aliens, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Trinity from Matrix, Sarah Connor from Terminator, Zeo and River from Firefly, and even Catniss from Hunger Games: all of them strong, all of them with weakness or struggle to overcome, all of them embrace the concept of love and family, etc. You'll practically never find that in modern movies especially from the likes of Disney. That's seen as weak, unimportant and "outdated". It's ridiculous. Clearly evident more than ever by the likes of Rachel Zegler in her Snow White interviews: THAT'S the real motivation and philosophy behind many studios like Disney now. They're selling a message, not relatable and timeless stories. It's going to be the subject of their own demise, and they absolutely deserve it.

The thing about Doctor Aphra, is that A) she has a fully developed character, not just a series of tickmarks [IIRC her creator designed her to be "a dark version of Indiana Jones"] B) She isn't perfect. Her plans do fail, or unexpected things happen that she doesn't foresee, and she has to work out a solution, sometimes on the fly.

I think the biggest problem to come with "woke" culture, is that they're inserting into pre-existing IP's instead of making their own stories. Just a few recent examples include The Witcher, Halo, Velma, Star Wars, Marvel, and Rings of Power. Writers should be held accountable when they take a crap upon existing worlds and have the arrogance to think their story is better. Then the audience is blamed when the show or movie does terrible and has negative reviews.

"Nick Fury isn't being played by a black guy, he's being played by Samuel L. Jackson" - Asmongold 2023 He spittin straight facts.

you can't de-canonize something... once it's cannon it's in the story. If you change it, you can change how the characters understand the interaction or behind the scenes what the underlying reasoning was or small details about it. But if you change a large event like that your telling a new story that isn't part of the old story.

I went straight up to the original video because of the pauses and how Asmongold kept missing the point of the video and he narrowed the topic to "they are poorly written characters". Yes, they are, because the writers want them to be powerful and important only because of their sexuality/gender/race and they go straight to the powerspike or anything else without any character development - and that makes it woke.

Woke characters just end up being boring, with "being preachy" as their only character trait.

I find it hard to believe that Starfire. One of thee most caring and compassionate super hero would allow her daughter be what is depicted in "I'm not Starfire." Starfire would defiantly give her daughter emotional and social support.

I liked bo katan from clone wars and I thought she was a petty cool character in mandalorian. But she needed her arc in her own show

Self inserts are a problem when they replace established characters. If you want to make a character and story for a specific group of people then do that, don't hijack beloved characters and stories.

Its not that (identity) characters are bad, its that if the characters only notable characteristic is that they've got that identity trait, then it's just an insert to tick a box.

the line where he said "anybody can be mandalorian now" when this initially was a secret creed of exceptionally capable but mistrusting warriors, at best will cheapen that impact and at worst completely will eliminate any intrigue and mistery that the mandalorian creed ever had. again Syndrome from The Incredibles, a 2004 animated masterpiece, said it a line that basicaly describes the consequence of what happened in Star Wars: "When I'm old and had my fun, I'll sell my inventions so everybody can be superheroes, EVERYBODY CAN BE SUPER! ...and when everybody's super... [evil laughter] noone will be!"

Oberyn Martell was such a good example. One of my favourite characters in GoT.

It's kind of hard to say "if you don't like something, don't consume it". Cause you basically have to consume something in order to know whether you would like it or not. Generally what happens is you don't watch the next thing of the same creator but it's potentially bad because you could just watch something that was bad, not watch the next thing which was better and then watch a third thing that is bad because you heard the second one was good. Meanwhile the creator sees you watched first and third who were the worst. Especially in movies, not so much in video games that have replayability ofc. That's why you kind of have to get reactions, discussions about things (even tho it becomes a twitter shitshow I suppose) and not just "checking if product was consumed".

I mean it's pretty simple yeah? They manage to offend both the people who never asked for this and the groups they're trying to appeal to in the first place.

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - JRR Tolkien.

The wokeness in Rey was that she did everything Luke did, but better and without effort, while every exciting male lead of the old films have turned into poor, helpless, grumpy old farts. Every successful man from the original stories have been systematically downtrodden to give rise to the female leads. Even Kylo Ren descended into this emo dweeb of a character, even though his first intro was him stopping a plasma bolt mid flight. Flynn got totally sidetracked when it was obvious "stormtrooper awakens to the force and gets a conscience redemption into jedi master" was the original intended main plot

Andor is an excellent example of a show with a good political message conveyed through great writing. No one is complaining that there were a lot of “woke” concepts in it because it was extremely well made and well written.

A big problem that's arising is that due to the forced diversity in so much media that is poorly written, a lot of people, myself included, are much more critical when the protagonist of a film/show/etc happens to check one of those diversity boxes, even before the thing gets released. It becomes difficult to analyze characters properly when we've been burned so often. I hate that, since you could easily have a film starring 10 black non-binary lesbians with incredible writing and a plot that delivers, but because companies have been more focused on simply HAVING the diversity present, it makes actual diversity easily hateable.

I still think Finn was the one who was absolutely ROBBED from his spotlight role as a Stormtrooper turned Jedi but they never would do that in the modern day. His story Arc was the only motivating factor that I forced through the sequels. Was so disappointed when that never happened.

5:06 the problem is they are co opting known IPs and changing them. It isn’t their own story. No one cares about a no name new character being created, it’s taking a beloved series and then manipulating it. The fans of the series expect 1 thing and get something else. The creators are banking on the fans to drive revenue but then make it something else. The food analogy is always a great one. You order lasagna and get a soy burger. You wanted x but got y. Then when you add the fact that sales of lasagna are 200x what soy burgers are, it looks a lot like bait and switch.

Love your nuance, much needed in the realm of gaming

They didn't turn the mandalorian into a girl, they just made the mandalorian a "recurrent" character in his own show

With the Mandalorian, its not about the main character being Bo now, it's about the fact that the whole time up until then it was centered around Dinn, and then when Bo comes out and takes the mantle, it feels like a bait and switch.

When it comes to characters i usually don't go for looks first thing. Talking about fighting game characters for a bit, i usually go with what they can do rather than what they look like. If i understand what they are meant to do and i can implement that then that's a character i'll gravitate towards. My first assessment of the character is: What can this STICK FIGURE DO? That's how i see them at first. Then comes the meat and bones and scars, the characters personality, the motives and the struggles. The scars/struggles don't have to be visible, physical, they can be emotional and psychological. Take Juri Han from Street Fighter as an example. She's basicly a traditional Shoto character, a female shoto. She has deep personality, she has personal motives and she has plenty of scars to show both physical and emotional and psychological. What was the result? INSTANT FAN FAVOURITE AND MAINSTAY IN THE SERIES. She's Asian btw, no big tits either. What? A deep female character that actually defies beauty standards? And she became instantly popular? NO WAY!

Asmongold advice: "Stop consumming content you do not like." We would not. Unfortunately, they give us what we want at first then transform it later into something else entirely. That is the problem. If they were clear about what they would do, be honnest, we might actually like and give a chance and not be outraged. They should create their own characters and write them good! We will be happy. But they should leave established characters as they have been known and liked.

The biggest issue is not when they appear, (that’s another issue) but if they appear in exchange of pre established motifs or plot points. Rey taking Luke’s place for example. Her and Finn were primed for absolutely compelling story points. The orphaned scavenger, and the force sensitive stormtrooper turncoat. It was actually exciting in episode 7 when you thought of these potential points

They straight up assassinated Luke's character so Rey could do the stuff he was supposed to do.

tl;dr: a lot of movie and game makers think "GIGACHAD = wear a label and nothing else" or "GIGACHAD = have literally no flaws whatsoever (and make sure to point out that it's solely due to that label)" when they should really be creating interesting characters. No one complains about Ripley and many other girl characters because they're well-written and more or less realistic. When you confuse writing with slapping labels on the character, you have bad writing and that's it. To add insult to injury, most people tend to double down and resort to rhetorics like calling names and _ad hominem_ when someone points that flaw out.

Self-inserts are fine to me, as long as they stay fanfiction. The moment they try injecting it into canon? Nah, don't you dare.

It's simple, "the message" is more important than character arc or character development or storyline. Are there any franchises left that haven't tanked their fanbase for this?

Xena was around in the early 90's. Powerful, not sexualized. They just didnt beat you in the face with it until you couldn't take any more.

30:40 pretty sure Fury had dark hair. He would have been perfect for David Hasselhoff(pretty sure he did play Fury once) but Samuel L Jackson did a good job for while.

Why does Asmon assume we didn't stop watching Mandalorian and other shows? We did. But that doesn't stop us from noting how many franchises we have had to walk away from and explain why we left.

havign black people in a story does not make the story woke, having black people in it BECAUSE they are black and their entire character and identity is "black person", that is woke. Having a woman in it doesn't make it woke, having a woman in it BECAUSE its a woman and their entire character and identity is "I has vagina" makes it somewhat woke, and "i has vagina, therefore I can do no wrong, I am super good at everything I do, and everybody loves me for no conceivable reason" makes it truly woke.

In regards to the self insert thing I feel like an important part is what they are connected to, in the case of Peter Parker it was a new character in a new world with a high chance that if it failed he would have disappeared, but in the cases of Rey and I’m not starfire girl, they piggyback onto a popular media to attempt to leach that popularity and still try to force it after it fails

Its sad that it is so shocking when someone says, "Don't watch something that is going in a direction you don’t like". People just accept mediocrity these days. Try watching something from the 90s or early 2000s. Don’t accept modern garbage.

30:55 To be fair, ANY character improves if you cast Samuel L Jackson for the role. I'd pay top dollar to see him as Snow White, or anyone and anything else.

One bit about creating characters in the author's likeness: it wouldn't be a problem, if they created they're own properties and did it. But instead they take existing properties, with fanbases large and small (but almost always equally impassioned) and subvert/insert those characters there to almost always disastrous results. Most popular IPs from the 80s on have, in this last 10 years or so, have been subjected to this and have nowhere near the clout they once did. The diehards mainly abandoned it because nothing was the same anymore (what got those properties to that clout in the first place)

the thing with Samuel Jackson playing the role of Nick Fury is that the only difference was the looks AND they didn't make a big deal about it. they didn't say "we will butcher the character in every possible way but we will also make him black and gay and call everyone who doesn't like the changes a bigot"

"can you write a new story that's original and good?" "No, no, and no"

10:35 plus there is the extended lore of Sauron in tokens other books.

There's no progression and context in the backstory of these woke characters. For example if you want strong feminine character, Sarah Connor from T1 is the best. You can see how she went from being a normal girl with daily job to a female warrior throughout the whole movie. On the other hand with these movies nowadays, you have right out the gate "this is a chick name 'X', she can kick the shit out of every buffy dudes in a bar. She also has a lot of cheap one-liners to crack some forgettable chuckles in the movie theater"

Star Killer was a great character with great potential. I love the idea of the bad becomes good.

Same, I was also only familiar with the black green lantern before the movie came out.

Removing myself from experiences and stories that abandon the ideas that brought me to them in the first place is always the best decision. I can always come back and laugh but if I stay invested in a product that is not invested in me I am just setting myself up for disappointment and sadness.

If the audience wants activism, they'll go to a rally, not a cinema.

The main problem with things being "woke" is that it ruins the legacy of whatever it touches. These new writers and directors are not making their own thing but riding off the backs of already established franchises to push their own messages. Plus it doesn't help that they always hate everything about the series they are working with.

Guts in the manga called Berserk is pretty much a self insert of the creator Kentaro Miura and Guts is literally the most well developed character in existence.

Fan fiction is fine. But when you try to sell it as cannon people will notice and not accept it.

I think it has more to do with the “self inserts” being the whole characters in their entirety rather than just having certain traits or personality points that line up with the character they’re creating.

I think a lot of the people that get mad at some characters or some renditions of a story is, partly that the story/character is being used as a platform to try and promote ideas which is fine in and of itself but not when the character has always been, looked, behaved a certain way and now it's something entirely different , and for the most overwhelming part is them being pissed off at the fact that the people behind a beloved IP are funding stuff like that instead of other settings, plots or concepts that fans would've loved much more to see adapted.

A good way to ret-con Rey in Star Wars and that she can almost instantly use the Force, that she was a clone of Palpatine, not just a grand daughter. The New Republic fell apart from internal strife when over them hunting down Palps clones (old and young alike) and the First Order (led by Thrawn in the shadows) took advantage of turmoil to strike (and no, no more death star like things). Luke and Leia had a falling over the hunting of the Clones etc. Kilo felt darkness in Rey and tried to bring her to him but then give him a redemption ark where in the 3rd, he realizes his mistakes, defeats Rey after she kills Luke (and yes, take out the Luke tried to kill Ben). Something, anything for depth.

5:15 Starfire is from the Teen Titans (essentially a junior Justice League with Tim Drake as Robin) And Self-Inserts rarely work out especially when the writer/artist isn't the actor playing the character. The big reason why Self-Inserts are almost always s&!t is because the author is far too often slavishly invested in that character--- to the point it becomes a power fantasy with the (plot warping to serve the character) as they don't want to see their 'perfect' creation suffer. If Perfection doesn't have to strived for by the MC and their compatriots it becomes anathema to a story. Rei is a power fantasy done wrong (everyone has to made dumber and weaker in order for her to shine)-- if you want a power fantasy done right see the anime IPs One Punch Man and Overlord.

The problem with woke characters is that the writers expect people to love them because they're woke, not because they're good characters. If you have good characters in a compelling story, then it doesn't matter what their gender or the color of their skin is for me to enjoy it. But on the other side of that coin, if the characters are one-dimensional and the story is crap, then you don't get a free pass just because they happen to be woke.

"Chekhov's gun is a narrative principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed. For example, if a writer features a gun in a story, there must be a reason for it, such as it being fired sometime later in the plot." When characters are gay and it plays into the story - that's fine. IMO, in the cartoon Kipo, the MC develops a crush on a guy she's adventuring with, and he explains that he is gay, which kills off any unnecessary romance and leaves the characters as friends. Otherwise, just throwing in the fact that an MC is gay without it making any difference to the story or character development is terrible writing. It's like describing a character and saying "he had a dog throughout his childhood and teenage years". Ok, how does it affect the character? Is he now an animal lover and will prioritize saving animals over humans, for example? No? Then there's no point in adding that.

People did complain about ridley actually, but that was before social media in I think 1997ish with Alien 3 I think

The thing is with the mandalorian is they had that female character and rebels and I think at one point and the clone Wars and the TV show so yeah she's been a character that's been in it for some time but the thing is though is that she lost that title and it she only gained it because of the mandalorian she didn't earn it her spot as the lead mandalorian. They brought the character back and they gave her the title as amandalorian because they wanted to fit a narrative. The mandalorian did so great already so they figured you know what why don't we just get rid of the lead characters grogu and the mandalorian and focus on her being the new mandalorian. At least that is the point that it it seems like that they're focusing

I use the "what else?" strategy. One of my characters is the grandkid of an African-American soldier once stationed in Japan. This is important to the character because he was raised differently from his peers as a result, and couldn't always fit in. And that's the "what else" that's a lot more important than the character being mixed.

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made" -Tolkien The shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make; not real new things of its own.

One problem is, in many instances there really isn't a market for those characters. Site there might be a few who want it but in the end those stories don't end up selling well then you have to deal with the turn around of being beaten over the head because you knew the story wasn't for you do you didn't buy in and somehow that makes you the problem.

Rey would have been a much more interesting character if she learned she was a palpatine in episode 8 or early in episode 9, and in episode 9 we see her fall to the dark side and become the main villain, but also that kylo turns back to the light side in episode 8 and brings Rey back to the light side. Luke could still be killed by kylo, in a similar way to obi-wan, and making kylo realise his wrongdoings, allowing for kylo to teach Rey the way of the force. It could have been done so much better, especially if Rey didn't awaken to the force until Luke felt the force in her. And Luke would have been a way better character if he instead was like a solitary monk after his jedi academy was destroyed by kylo or the first order, not as a bitter hermit. And of we could have gotten some exposition for how the first order got so much power, like if they said something like "the remnants of the empire have banded together and taken over the new republic, the first order, a government body hidden from the public has begun to show it's fangs" in the scrolling text of episode 7.

The problem is when the character is pushed for the identity they have rather than for the compelling story narrative they hold. Thats what makes the difference between "woke" and not "woke".

One big issue. Characters like Captain marvel instead of being built up by their actions are instead just told that they are smart, emotional, bold, etc when we never actually see them be emotional or take bold risks.

Good point on the green lantern. Had the same reaction. I grew up with black green lantern and was wondering why he wasn’t black in this movie

Asmond gaslighting the first minute of the video = woke

I'm black and I get people calling me racist because I want more original black characters... The argument was never about black=woke or woman=woke. To say otherwise is just being disingenuous.

Bro your content helps me clear my mind thank you

Woke characters are born special, there's no hero's journey.

One of the main things I've seen, which is a problem As never addresses, is that so many of these things are so *deeply* unpopular and unprofitable that people are obviously voting with their wallets, but the same companies keep putting out the same type of product with the same ideologies and creative problems anyway. Just look at Velma as an example, nowhere near enough people were buying what was being sold to justify more of it being created, but more of it is being made and Mindi is getting more work despite the massive flop because it supports the message and destroys more of what the people they despise love, not because people are buying it. Edit around 33 minutes in: Jesus dude, people have been repeatedly *not* buying these things, not supporting them, not rewarding their creation whenever possible and they still get made. It's not hard to not watch something, it's much harder to speak louder, even with their wallets, than the people who are in the next office over from the executives that make the funding choices and can talk directly into their ears.