Destiny 2: How To Get The Most Out Of Airborne Effectiveness v2

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There is a lot to talk about. In this video I go though how everything changed, thresholds, and a lot more. I have tips for subclasses, exotics, what to look for. The system completely changed and you need to try it.
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@CoolGuyGames Год назад

Thank you for watching! This one took a bit to be made. It needed to be made though.

@SnorlaxingGaming Год назад

Appreciate the time and effort! Now to go try out some airborne Warlock Shenanigans

@cykeok3525 Год назад

Good resource with huge value for a great many people, very much worth it.

@martinborrego5848 Год назад

Thank you for the work, I didn't get it to well and laid it out very well and I appreciate it.

@chip7522 Год назад

Wow. Good info. Yes that had to be made. I need to watch it again. That was good listing the April 22 TWAB exotic again. I forgot where that was. Lots to think about. Thx again.

@jonathancarroll958 Год назад

Thanks for your time and effort spent doing this. Although I don't really play in the air much I have been trying it out of late. Nice to have some numbers to aim for 👍

@vellycanelly7429 Год назад

Now I can finally take advantage of Darci and Whisper of the Worm’s 90 Airborne Effectiveness by hitting 360 quickscopes in the air

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

@Logan-tw7wv Год назад

This gameplay looks like it's from an entirely different game, it's been so long since I saw effective airborne gameplay.

@VAVORiAL Год назад

Finally good again. Feels nice. Game immediately starts to feel much better when Bungie stops catering to scrubs and bad players.

@progenitor_amborella Год назад

@@VAVORiAL except for they literally stated why they did it like that and we know what happens when they don’t follow through with what reasoning was given

@seffers4788 Год назад

@@VAVORiAL Grounded gameplay is definitely more skill based though. I’m not saying either is better or worse, but you could tell that people couldn’t handle losing gunfights to opponents with simply better aim. Idk I just thought all the chaos was funny to watch lol

@horizontide568 Год назад

Thank God...I was itching for some destiny PvP and came to see what the sandbox was like. This was sorely needed. MM still super sweaty?

@dandyman7819 Год назад

PSA for viewers: Coolguy quoting "Tempered Metal for Titan" is actually Ember of Tempering fragment available for ALL classes. Coolguy was faithfully quoting Bungie's mix-up of the old pre-3.0 Solar stuff.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

from April 2022. It's all so lame lol. ty ty

@dandyman7819 Год назад

@@CoolGuyGames No problem man. Bungie should release a CURRENT list of relevant info.

@TugboatTheBoat Год назад

The "receipts" part in the beginning... This is why I love your content. A balance of facts and feel that isn't limited to just what's happening with our load-outs, but in Destiny as a whole. This is the type of content creation that I personally find most enjoyable. You dive into the depths of Destiny and share the hidden gems you find at the bottom. (And you don't run out of content as an intrinsic reward because you aren't afraid to try something different!) Also, if I may, consider doing a video on one-shot fusion nades with Verity's brow. It's a blast! Thanks for all you do Cool.

@Arshay Год назад

I definitely was like "listen to this dude talk" - that was perfection right there. This video is probably arguably one of if not the best content videos I've ever seen for D2.

@LordTonzilla Год назад

I do find Peregrine Grieves to be pretty solid with the +20 AE and forcing your opponent to respect the possibility of the one shot melee.

@pirate_duck4985 Год назад

Definitely sounds like the flying Shotgun Ape could definitely be a viable choice again! Can actually hit Shotgun shots BUT if you don't secure the kill? You're absolutely ready to knock your opponents into the respawn screen!

@dusk2308 Год назад

still sadge that shoulder charge doesn't one shot any more

@LordTonzilla Год назад

@@dusk2308 so run peregrine's

@ForeverLaxx Год назад

I hate how so many devs, even going as far back as 2004, are so against giving players hard numbers and are in favor of vague descriptions. It's like they believe indistinct values will somehow prevent players from finding the mathematically best version of something when all it really does is delay it all due to being forced to do a ton of testing. Give us numbers, Bungie. We promise it's not a bad thing to let your players know exactly what's happening.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

a lot of those numbers are the "sauce" of what makes it feel good. There is supposed to be some mystery to it and honestly, Bungie has been one of the most open devs on systems.

@ForeverLaxx Год назад

@@CoolGuyGames You say that, but how many Aspects/Fragments are built off terms like "moderate duration" or mods that say "escalating chance" (which in actuality is always on the 7th kill and not random at all) or neglect to inform the player of a cooldown, internal or otherwise? Hell, it was only recently when we got to see recoil direction on a weapon, something that is very *very* important for certain archetypes, especially with regards to whether or not you wanted a barrel/weapon mod that changed this value. Not to mention the relative vagueness of the Impact and Range stats, considering Impact is basically meaningless in the grand scheme (damage is based on RPM instead) and Range changes wildly in effectiveness between archetypes (a damage falloff value in meters would be more useful). Some of these are still hidden even in weapon crafting, like the aforementioned recoil direction. I have to look up every weapon I craft on a third party site just to know if Arrowhead Break or a Stock that modifies recoil direction is worth my time. I shouldn't have to do that. I get that there's a limit to how much a UI can display before it gets overwhelmed, but there's stats displayed that don't matter and words used where numbers could be used instead. It's all intentional obfuscation and is often done so people who are "suboptimal" don't feel like they are.

@jesseritchie9282 Год назад

@@ForeverLaxx Flawless comment.

@zazapackbussin Год назад

i appreciate all the hard work you do and for always delivering info clear and concise o7

@mythe6669 Год назад

According to Chris Proctor 85 fov is where the cone angles are exactly depicted by the reticle btw. They're also working to change that so you can see what you get more reliably at higher fov some time after LF.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

previous test wouldn't show anything at 85 fov. At all unless AE got to 75+. All for consistency.

@Rayan-or2zo Год назад

Thank you for this in-depth video really cleared things up about the AE system!! I finally have some idea on how I want build into it. : )

@LavaMinotaur Год назад

Dude your content has gotten so good it's insane. This vid is a huge help - thanks!

@Omega-Ignition Год назад

This is really good info. Thanks for taking the time to explain the changes!

@gryphon123456 Год назад

Great job on this. This is good info and you obviously did allot of work! 👍🏻

@spaceboysilver Год назад

Great video. Lots of detailed testing. Love it.

@littletank3476 Год назад

Thanks you Coolguy. I appreciate all the hard work you put into this.

@madddogg145 Год назад

Appreciate you my brother!...always ontop with Destiny info....thanks

@NeoRaidenn Год назад

Thank you for your work Mr. Cool Guy

@thekingswitness3374 Год назад

Excellent information @CoolGuyGames ! Love the content Bro. Keep em' coming!

@MrSpidey71 Год назад

Tux for posting. As usually very informative and definitely insightful. That list of AE exotic gear is extremely helpful as well. I am currently of that new on that's [redacted] lol for fusions and linear fusions next season.

@jesseritchie9282 Год назад

My man can do a breakdown, and make a clear concise video about the Destiny community in any way possible, and I still would be in awe in how clear and clean concise he his. Great video, and protect Lono at all costs.

@alfighter27 Год назад

Always love your vids and thoroughness CG, bless 🙏🏻

@jamieblakely4043 Год назад

Thanks for doing the lords work as always coolguy. Always appreciate you good sir

@ForTheViolence Год назад

Thanks cool guy. I love your channel because you use a lot of data and not just your opinion like a lot of other content creators.

@amann5186 Год назад

Excellent work

@sg1678 Год назад

Thanks. Great Vid.

@TeraInferno Год назад

I like how you still got to build into it to really get the benefits.

@dylanlasky2389 Год назад

I've been waiting for this

@catfat1000 Год назад

I think I fought you yesterday on titan you killed me so much with those side arms I knew an ae video would come out soon! Lol great video

@Laachen Год назад

astrocyte + blink + slug is feeling really good again. Pairing it with a Long Arm or DMT (even post nerf) or a 120 hc also feels really nice.

@LuisRodriguez-pf8tt Год назад

We just need more AE options, being locked to a subclass or exotic piece to use a particular weapon to get high AE its limiting player creativity, but we are heading on the right track with these changes.

@edg4rallanbro753 Год назад

No armor perk options, either weak exotic options that work for all weapons or strong exotic options with weird conditions (+50 AE on a melee hit for like 5 seconds???), and non sunsinger exclusive abilities rely on getting a kill (freezing should be a kill 99% of a time). They have a base system to work off of now, they just need to expand it.

@lumas69 Год назад

Thanks for this video my dude. I logged in today, rolled a random allied demand, got subsistence and eye of the storm. Said screw it, threw on Icarus grip peacekeepers and fusion grenades with weighted knives and a reconstruction trustee. I haven't had this much fun in iron banner in awhile

@TenshiThesseus Год назад

I sometimes don't agree with you in some things but I gotta give you props for this, you make great content and I imagine all the work you do to bring us something like this, thank you!

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

@@bannedmann4469 they have known about strand for a while and I think that class will bring stompees way out of the hole. That's what they did though, that's how they decided to change them, the AE system

@jormungandr4690 Год назад

@@CoolGuyGames I want to believe that, but considering they gave the unique thing of Hunter to all 3 classes is prob going to make strand hunter pretty ass.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

@@bannedmann4469 Eh. That video was a conversation point. It did what it needed to do and ultimately could care less what you and others say. It's an incredibly stupid conversation to be had and still having. The best part about all of it to this day, is I would piece up about 90% of people from the air in that playstyle. They did say AE was bc of strand. They did show stompees are the highest usage. There is a connection and you will see that in Lightfall. Nothing I ever did got stompees nerfed. It was a video. A video that brought people in and subs were gained. It's 2023. It's not that serious. Get over it.

@SpartanVengeance Год назад

Also if another class had the same exotic usage rate as stompees had, you can guarantee Bungie would nerf those in some way. The fact it was untouched by a nerf for like 5 years should be more surprising then when they got looked at.

@joako3733 Год назад

@@SpartanVengeance ophidians? lol

@nicksalazar4402 Год назад

Would you consider making a video on Hero’s Burden/Pizzicato-22 after the changes to adaptive frame 900 RPM smg’s?

@KageOffire Год назад

Thank you for this. Can't wait to jump in later tonight. Ideas already turning. Cryo + Hedrons + Tricksleeves. 😎

@Thund3rstone Год назад

Now is the time to camp with a sniper to pluck people from the air.

@KababKnife Год назад

damn cool guy this is a comprehensive video on a complex system, I am loving the content! The side-by-sides are crisp af - although I've gotta say I'd love some small visuals for the numbers you're discussing during the gameplay segments like 6:50 - 8:00, lots of back-and-forth between values it was kinda hard to keep up.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

I was running on fumes at the end of this. Some things I would change for sure

@KababKnife Год назад

oh yeah this must have been a WILD grind for all that info! really great work dude, there's always gonna be smth to improve - just wanted to throw in my 2 cents :)

@GAMINGwitJEFFY Год назад

Hands best pvp videos on youtube ! If i could make one suggestion and its a small personal one. Add bookmarks at the bottom so its easy to sift through your videos.

@Ewerboweski Год назад

Thank you for doing all this testing to save my sanity.

@JeremeSanders Год назад

Doing the lords work 👏

@bootlegbison3758 Год назад

Thanks for the vid. Great breakdown. Maybe manticore has a fighting chance… Still less ae than perfect float jararaca so lol who knows

@jetbarber1329 Год назад

😂 you trying to make me come back cool guy!!

@kaleo09 Год назад

Been waiting for this video. Awesome job thanks so much 🙏 👏

@julianlak1017 Год назад

Another banger vid, seems like bungie hit the AE sweet spot with this update.

@beyondxhorizon4992 Год назад

Thank you

@TravyDead Год назад

Thanks for making this video. I’m excited to hop into PvP. Literally.

@SuperSurferDan Год назад

Great Vid, I was going to try out AE builds now that it's improved. This info is greatly welcomed!

@stephenjablonski6227 Год назад

Thanks

@carl6969100 Год назад

been waiting all day for this! thank you!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

@redtower481 Год назад

Currently running double sidearms with the sleeves. Definitely my play style :)

@joemurray Год назад

Appreciate you doing a follow up on AE. Superb level of detail. I agree so much about how players should be able to see all this information in the game. I do definitely hope they revert the nerf of stompees though

@nickyessir7105 Год назад

the fact that I didnt know there was a list that shows AE bonuses for exotics makes the buildcrafter in me sad. Thanks for the vid, great info.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

exactly dude. Exactly. and that was from almost a year ago.

@pici7826 Год назад

It's funny that the sample character to test is a hunter, says a lot. Let the monkey jumps games BEGIN! XD

@jonathanmiller8364 Год назад

And while they are adding details on stats, add recoil direction to the crafting screen at the enclave.

@yarisher3127 Год назад

Thats quite a new video

@BOLOGNAINTHEHOUSE Год назад

THanks for the deets CoolGuy. Go Chiefs!

@Hypercane_ Год назад

I'd like airborne effectiveness to NOT show up as a buff on your screen, they only allow 4 buffs/debuffs on screen per time so AE could show up somewhere else. Maybe on the character screen where your prime attunement shows up?

@brizzzyplays924 Год назад

You’re the man

@Aj-py8en Год назад

0:34 I agree that we should see numbers for it but that reasoning seems a bit silly. We don't see numbers for all the other weapon stats boosts exotics give. Even in the weapon itself we sometimes don't see those stat changes. If anything not seeing them is just par for the course. What I think Bungie is doing is making reticles more indicative of those hidden weapon stats. So the precision aim angle and recoil Direction would also be present, and it would work for all FoVs and change accurately with any exotic or perks.

@ItsAMeeb Год назад

I gotta tell ya it's so refreshing seeing airborne gameplay again, pretty excited to try this out

@Gunslinger8912 Год назад

I think you mean Ember of Tempering, rather than Tempered Metal. It's also class agnostic. Not just for the Sunbreaker - Dawnblades and Gunslingers can use it too.

@Mr_Gilado Год назад

I saw you in a crucible match doing a lot of jump shots with the Survivor's Epitaph. I was figuring you were going to pull a AE video and I'm glad I was right. I already knew bungie wasn't going to scrap the idea. It's too core built into the game and needs to be polished.

@jwilsonred1913 Год назад

Appreciate the work you put in man! You should do a video on the crafted Heritage. I think enhanced hip fire on it is absolutely nuts

@a_q_y0001 Год назад

Great video overall and now I'm wanting to go back to slugging people with wings of sacred dawn. Also as a side note the numbers in the twab are different from what they implemented ingame according to the patch notes that followed the twab with exotic AE values.

@nerdherder9340 Год назад

Have you tried out an adaptive smg since the buffs? The forensic nightmare also feels damn solid with the one extra zoom

@good_morning_guardians Год назад

Had a dream the other night that CoolGuy was playing basketball out front of my house, so I walked up to him and he was super chill, let me join in no problem. Anyways, 10/10 would play basketball with again 😁👍

@joelbetts3159 Год назад

Onya man

@jombii-7090 Год назад

Honestly, Bungie needs to revamp on screen buffs because only having 4 shown when I've got like 8 or 9 going at any given time and not being able to see the duration is irritating

@furjaden8553 Год назад

and while they're at it, put the AE value next to the gun's icon on the ammo bar

@antny645 Год назад

System is the first step in the right direction. I have some strong feelings the crucible at a high level is gonna be full of stasis and strand

@brandonwright1377 Год назад

Idk they are definitely going to be strong but Dawnblade has become a lot better with these changes and blink as well because you can actually land your shots out of blink. Makes the skill ceiling much higher.

@fryler5865 Год назад

Im a d2 veteran at this point i guess, and i struggle to figure out my ae stat. Couldn't imagine being a new player. Luckily we got CG breaking it down!

@cj6498 Год назад

I'm expecting a surge in hunters and handcannons. Not feeling too hype about that, but AE being back is nice.

@ShutchyerLips Год назад

I wonder if strand is going to make changes to the sky box and how our vertical axis works? I'd be super happy with ae being hard buffed like this if they just opened up the sky box. It's so frustrating to have a hunter jump over you, only to have your vertical look stop at 70 degrees (or whatever it is). If we could go all the way up and over with our look, it wouldn't be so difficult to counter someone who jumps over you when you're grounded.

@coinisinorbit Год назад

You can look directly up, then turn around while looking down, atleast on mouse and keyboard, idk about controller but you can already follow a target in air, you just have to have good aim. If you're talking about making the sky box bigger, like take away the death zones and invisible walls so you can go higher, then yeah i can see that being needed.

@ShutchyerLips Год назад

@@coinisinorbit nah, not talking about taking out of bounds areas away, just how high you can look up. It doesn't go straight up to 90 degrees, and it would be way better if you could go up and over 180 degrees. I'm on mnk, not controller, so we're working with the same thing.

@MY-rl8hu Год назад

I always wondered why people complained about accuracy when jumping? It only makes sense if you're jumping like a bunny accuracy drops... I was perfectly fine the way it was before.

@ezperro6120 Год назад

I've known about the Hedrons thing for a while and have been using a specific build on my Titan that can give shotguns up to 100 AE (depending on the shotgun). Havent played it since the update but very much looking forward to seeing how it feels now!

@FreakingDuck Год назад

So its better now. Cool.

@bonefat21 Год назад

Very well-made video! Personally, I think some more AE mods would be great. If you want to dabble in AE without putting your whole build into it, you can't really do that right now, other than icarus grip and extended mag. You have to commit with the weapon perks, the subclass perks, and the exotic armor.

@jehbon Год назад

I’ll be honest I haven’t felt any urge at all to even jump into crucible for most of this season. But after watching this I’m willing to give it a solid go after work tonight. Reasons like this are why this is one of my favorite channels on RU-vid, please keep up the great work my guy!

@rskzstealth1118 Год назад

I wonder is pulses or scouts will ever be good from the air, if built into correctly

@richsainsbury2285 Год назад

Damn you knocked this out the park my guy.

@otterbob3151 Год назад

Oh boy is it feeling oppressive now. Warlocks floating with high impact pulses at 40m two burstin me feels bad man

@kulleedimas1586 Год назад

Hey CoolGuy what shader are you rocking on your EXALTED TRUTH!?!?

@ARCtheIsmaster Год назад

you absolutely disrespected that shadebinder with malfeasance hahaha

@LukeFadeWalker Год назад

They gave zen moment a buff, I think it might actually be good now

@ShadowPIXL_ Год назад

Most primary weapons hang around 15 AE, and if 10 AE is better than pre-AE Icarus, then the -15 from Stompees isn't a big deal. Not only that but the Slide nerf was reversed, so the 2 changes that "nerfed" Stompees are not really in play anymore and it still had high usage even with the bad AE system

@ShannorTrotty Год назад

Stomps are -50 AE. Not negative -15.

@ShadowPIXL_ Год назад

@@ShannorTrotty Yes, but AE will never go below 0, so effectively the loss is whatever the AE stat is (15 in this example)

@ModeKaioken Год назад

I think the intention of AE was to be ankle weights for players good enough to shoot from the air so they wouldn't need to make an sbmm system and is why it was so heavy handed on launch. I think they see that won't work now but also like the aspect it brought to play so they nerf it by like 70% and use it to support things like light sbmm. So its still a supporting branch of the sbmm system but just in a way less invasive way. I doubt strand will get AE bonus or it would have to have abilities worse at killing then the other classes or it would make the ankle weight system invalid. It is interesting that you actually get overloaded on aim assist if you dial into the system. It almost not feels like an ankle weight system because now you get something for it but at the end of the day specing into ae means you get less abilities overall. I do wonder how the long term impact looks if ae was to be a nerf to killing pace and this seems to cancel that nerf by just going all in on ae.

@12345abxdefghijk Год назад

Oh no… Stompees are back, may god have mercy on our souls

@hschooljoe Год назад

I couldn't figure out why I could only see it in my screen sometimes!

@patricklarsson2372 Год назад

Liked without even watching. Thanks for breaking this down.

@wood5596 Год назад

Pretty happy especially with a shatterdive hunter, my problem before was there wasn’t really a reason to go in the air to use shatterdive in the first place but now aerial is much more viable. My only thing now is I have no idea which load out to use with it 😅

@AJGudmundsen Год назад

If you figure one out, lmk

@matthewreed5988 Год назад

Any advice on how to use airborne gameplay on titan and non dawnblade warlock? Hunters get the neutral perk from heat rises at all times and of course dawnblades as well do, but it is extremely hard to utilise being in the air outside of than (with exception for lion rampant and DMT). Looking for a way to enjoy the new system on other classes and subclasses and any advice would be appreciated.

@ArkPel Год назад

I love your vids, always keen on hearing your analysis, but I gotta admit this one kinda left me even more in the unknown. Bungie said that primaries will feel like they did previously with Icarus, I though they are reverting the AE thing totally for primaries and that I could ingnore that stat on primaries. But after your video this is my understanding: if your weapon already has 12+ AE your are good to go with no investing bc it feels like ~60AE before patch. Am I right? Am I missing something? What AE stat is now a sweetspot for HC? ist it 12? 25? or still something with 50+? I play MnK

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

yes. 10 AE now is what *60* AE was in the previous system. They pretty much said that from 10-30 AE "they can hit body shots now". Crits on dead on aim. The technical sweetspot is 60. 60 and beyond you get scaling extra benefits. At 60 it starts to change the benefits of the precision cone angle. 10-30 is base. 31-59 is mid tier. 60+ is where it's really at.

@ArkPel Год назад

@@CoolGuyGames Thanks, but wasn't 60+AE always the sweet spot?

@devinreid6556 Год назад

@@ArkPel It was. They adjusted the system so that the lower end is no longer as punishing as it used to be and made the higher end better than before. Basically a blanket buff to how primary weapons feel in the air across the board.

@CoolGuyGames Год назад

@@ArkPel no, 50-60 AE in the prev system was basically the entry level to even land shots on target from the air. That is now *10* AE in the new system

@ArkPel Год назад

@@CoolGuyGames ahhhh thx alot, sounds good :)

@alexpolsinelli7124 Год назад

You are a baller

@albala8695 Год назад

Dunno if it was said or not but No Backup Plans grants AE to shotguns

@rhyshuber9981 Год назад

This is all well and good but what if I don’t wanna use peacekeepers

@flamingscar5263 Год назад

Other was to build into AE then just exotic Icurus grip +15 Extended mag +10 Steady rounds +7 SMG with 20 AE That gets you to 52, not quite 60 but still pretty good, thus ignores in flight compositor (since it's just for this season) and other exotic options

@zebrastripe665 Год назад

Thank you, should be a nice reference to share around! Also, your recent videos were starting to feel a little too wordy (lacking concision) or like you were trying to fit too much into 10 minutes. This video felt a lot more prepared and well-said.

@nicgara8781 Год назад

I think exotics like peacekeepers, oath keepers, etc, ones that specialize with specific weapon types make it so those respective weapons perform even better in the air than if they were on the ground, except special and power weapons.

@joshaltea Год назад

Cool. Time to unnerf stompees

@pirate_duck4985 Год назад

Thank you for this my dude! Like a lot of folks I pretty much gave up on any airborne play that wasn't say Wings of Sacred Dawn, DMT x Lion Ramparts, Heat Rises, etc. I took off Stomp EE5's a long time ago, got hooked on a couple other Exotics so I wasn't quite as annoyed as some! If the AE system wasn't completed & ready to go? This is how it should've been introduced in the first place! Don't ruin what people are used to!! Make it BETTER but only if you actually spec into it!