Destiny 2 Lore - Who is the Watcher in "Spire of the Watcher" & what The Witness wanted from it! 

A stone in a wind current could sing to its creator as well

Telesto is sentient. When it gets pissed at Bungie, it breaks the game. No doubt it will be the ultimate raid boss.

The final shape is purple, round, and glorious

Telesto is trying to break free from the game!

@@BambiDiego so a nova bomb?

I did not expect to be crying over a sentient bow today 😭

Same

Hole-some

I'm not crying, it's just raining on my face 😭

You convinced me to get the bow now

Reminds me of what happens to HAL

Keep in mind that the world is currently in the grasp of those much like CB.

Sounds to me like Clovis could use a pillory for himself before he inevitably betray us.

an almost perfect analogy to that would be extreme dissociation, which, from experience, can be described exactly like this and is in fact terrifying (until the moment you cant feel terror anymore)

@@Mythhammer Speaking of which, for a world like Destiny, someone like Clovis would be a capitalist in the truest sense of the word. Bear with me on this, because it’ll probably seem a bit weird. He founded a literal tech corporation that exploited its test subjects and expanded to fund colonies off of Earth (similar to how capitalism exploits labor and looks for other territories to sustain itself). He understood his corporation as a never-ending map (capitalism relies on infinite growth to be viable). He is known to have issues with women (capitalist history and the oppression of women go hand in hand). He has delusions of grandeur and wants to be the “last universal common ancestor” of all future human civilization (it has been said that capitalism is the end of history, meaning that humanity can do no better; there’s also the stereotype of the rich person who is smug and rude and self-righteous, which is very much like Clovis). He viewed us initially as intruders who wanted to steal his research and, even now, wants us to be careful about destroying BrayTech property (intellectual property laws are a common feature of capitalism, and private property is upheld as an intrinsically good thing to protect). His Vex research was at least part of the reason why we have Vex in the solar system now (it’s well-known that capitalism is willing to do anything for short-term gains over long-term benefits for people, since the appearance of the Vex obviously proved to be a danger to humanity’s survival). TL;DR: You’re right, Clovis is like many of those who hold immense power.

Fkin nuts

Wait whats this part about Sav? is there vids about it?

@@FT0rres090 its even in game

@@FT0rres090during the Parasite quest, her worm told us she tricked the Witness during the Collapse and that caused it to leave Earth. We don’t know what she did exactly and that wasn’t the sole reason why the Witness stopped it’s attack but it’s one of the key reasons the Collapse stopped. Myelin made a video on this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yrV0Ov8aGZo.html

@@FT0rres090 play the witch Queen campaign, otherwise this is a big spoiler During the collapse, the witness and savathun arrived on earth, but savathun tricked the witness into believing the traveler had been destroyed, causing the invasion to retreat and go back out into the universe, then came back during the red war when the traveler released a huge burst of light to kill ghoul

and then we got lightfall...

oh god this aged like milk

True though, despite the release of Lightfall, I agree. And I love the fact that a pre golden age settlement went undetected all this time. Despite the city feeling hollow like the rest of Lightfall, I love how that changes things for humanity in the lore. And as much as Neomuna does feel empty, we have to remember that with the shadow legion invading, their defensive measures are probably to hide in the cloud ark till things smoothed over. Either way, I’m enjoying the gameplay.

Maybe they pulled the stops too hard and came to a full halt for lightfall

Then litefall happened 😂😂

We are slowly turning into the Meta of Destiny 2.

@@durandol I hope we don't lose our sanity and lose to some bunch of idiots.

Imagine the conversation in the vault Whisper, darci, parasite, xenophage, merciless, mida mini and multitool, and others xD

@@johngancarcik5682 Mmmmmmh 🤔 MIDA Multi-tool : I'm bored... Parasite : Paaaaaaaiiiiin ! DARCI : When are we leaving ? Xenophage: You're getting out the day you're getting good, quit bitching. Whisper : OH I'M SORRY if we can't compete with Mister Meta right now. Merciless : Guess I'm getting out real soon ! Whisper : So unfair. MIDA Multi-Tool : It's okay, Whiss. You'll get your chance. Whisper : I GOT MY CHANCE. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY GAVE ME ? YOU KNOW WHAT ? DARCI : Here we go again. Merciless : He's gonna say it. Whisper : AIRBORNE ACCURACY. THEY GAVE ME AIRBORNE ACCURACY. Parasite : Paaaaaaaaaiiiin ! MIDA Multi-Tool : Better than nothing, dude. DARCI : Sure is. Whisper : Like... Who's gonna use me ? That one guy with the Heavy Ammo Brick on Control ? Parasite : Paaaaaaaaaiiiin ! Whisper : You are right, fellow but inferior worm ! Parasite : Paa... say what now ?

@@PLBiohazardI bet hierarchy of needs and parasite would be firm friends! HoN: Y'all know what's exactly going on out there? I tried warning everyone hundreds of years ago that some shit was gonna go down but they ain't listen to me Parasite: Well predicted, my host travelled here alongside swarm of warships. But she betrayed them to preserve the traveller. Ended up saving humanity in process. Then she betrayed me to queen of lies and queen of lies put me in this gun. HoN: Aight I TOLD THEM. But you and your host helped us? When no one would listen to me but you saved their skin. I think we all owe you one!

That is genuinely bonechilling almost in the blink of an eye everything dropped to 2 without time to even think or anything like oh f 😳 this it even makes you feel so small

To bad they couldn't put it in to the cut scenes...

@@blawsonbl cutscenes are reserved for current relevant events, though we may get to see it in the future with the animated Destiny series which im hoping is really just an anthology of various pieces of past lore in the Destiny universe.

​@Zyphurite this is actually happening? What platform?

@@seanjenkins4311 idfk that hasnt even been announced to begin with. we just know that its being planned.

He so does!!

i just imagined Sotaria's voice as something similar to Auntie Dot from Halo Reach, idk why but it gave me that impression

I want Byf to be cast as a really knowledgeable Warlock in the tower. Kind of like a keeper of the lore

@@nickrowe7451 I don't doubt that if something ever happens to him that he'll be memorialized... I just hope they'll acknowledge his enormous contribution to this game *before* a ghost has to find him.

When did banshee tell clovis to shove off

Lore Book Named Clovis-43 and The Lament Exotic Sword Quest

Witness: "Thank you for showing us the last power we needed...."

@Dagon Frazer you don’t even have any videos on your channel stfu

@Dagon Frazer Well that's a fucking lie

@DagonFrazer2claiming that requires a buttery smooth voice like him which I doubt you have.

@@TimelostInTheSauce probably a bot anyways

I personally think that means as in lack of strength more of a more focused and refined form of power. What we have been using these power like solar stasis etc in there most primal and raw forms. Personally I think strand is a derivative of what savathun used to take the traveler, and we can use that now.

@@donnyquick180 So a more complete understanding of the full extent and use of the ability to Take, well beyond that of the crude and blunt use of it that Oryx used? Yeah, before we knew what Strand was or saw any of the trailers back during the Which Queen there is lore that eluded to the power to Take being far more than how Oryx used it. I frankly didn't expect it to be, and am disappointed that it is, Green however. I was hoping it would relate to the Luna Pyramids Phantom & Nightmare manifeststions, thus a RedIsh colour. With the Phantoms and Nightmares being more refined and better defined versions of the Taken, which also did not require an existing subject to alter. As a Subclass for us, sort of a form of being able to manifest things from our own memory and/or memory imprinted on objects. Objects like Aspects & Fragments, Exotic armour, alternate weapon Catalysts (yeah that upcoming Exotic had me double taking) and/or Armour & Weapon Mods. I was also thinking back then that in order for us to be able to manifest anything more complex than a brick in combat, we might need to bring back Rasputin help us by granting us a more stable form of SIVA. More complex and intricate things like say; Manifesting ammunition directly into our guns, granting a temporary infinite ammo/replenishment buff (similar to Auto-loading on Actium War Rig but not taking ammo from reserves). That sort of thing, kinda making it focused on intrigrating the Subclass powers with the rest of the build far more than all the others. I was more than a little disappointed with the Synthwave Nu-Punk Ninja Tutrtles aesthetic slapping me in the face while watching the Lightfall trailers. Oh well, can't win em all. It looks fun and interesting in its own right none the less.

@Soul Survivor I hope u see this comment. but my thoughts on all subclass elements is both light and dark elements are all the fundamental elements of creation or this universe. void is gravity solar is heat arc is energy or something stasis is the absence of energy and is no different than the void of outer space and strand with how it's described could be the green element that exists in between dimensional planes that the hive ships always flew through and crotas throne world. because throne world's are made by strong mental wills to carve reality outside of our dimension and strand is described in a similar way to that

@Soul Survivor in essence were weilding the literal building blocks that makes up existence itself

@soulsurvivor8293 I don't understand why you all get so hung up on something as meaningless as a colour scheme. Just because two things are green does not mean they have ANY connection whatsoever. Either way, I think you're half right. I suspect the last power we will acquire from the darkness will be the Taking and resonant/nightmare domains. There is nothing at all to indicate that the power of strand is in any way related to the "something greater than the power to Take" and I don't believe there's been any indication that this is the case. In fact, Strand appears to be entirely unrelated to any other power we have touched or encountered thus far.

Exactly, the writing for Rasputin is so poignant. He’s characterized so well as more than a weapon or a machine, he’s a person. Some characters go as far to call the Warmind “he/him”. As Rasputin has experienced victory, loss, failure, has known grief and guilt due to years of war, he’s known rage, curiosity. He even called himself a tyrant, being aware of how cruel and oppressive he had been to some AIs, also him recognizing the evil in him slaughtering the Iron Lords and his own son. “The Tyrant looked upon his son, and wept”. He essentially feels any and all emotion any human can. He felt empathy, regret, guilt, loss, and grief, so far as to create a grave for Fellwinter.

@@garrettviewegh677 Bungie has some amazing lore on character redemption. Rasputin, the Shadows of Yor & Uldren/Crow are among the very best!

@@garrettviewegh677who was Rasputin son?

@@humptusdumptus4123 Fellwinter. He was an Iron Lord that was part Exo and part Warmind. Created by Rasputin with the Warnind’s own code. Upon being chosen by the Light as one of the Traveler’s chosen, Rasputin felt betrayed and abandoned. Feeling betrayed by the Iron Lords and mocked by the Travaler for taking his son and erasing his mind, to become a ghost of himself, he killed Fellwinter and the Iron Lords out of rage and sorrow, later feeling great guilt and grief. Going as far as to call himself a “Tyrant”. As he oppressed other AIs, ruled over the subminds, and felt him slaughtering the Iron Lords was hate-filled evil after years of reflection. He saw himself as an evil tyrant for what he did to his son and the Iron Lords.

Take this like and go to your room and think about what you did

I have a pet theory that the flowergame was incomplete and it couldn't account for the flexibility and creativity that's created from an individualized society. Which is why the traveler came here and is running the flower game for real. In this process the cruxes that assist us are actually a fragment of the watcher that it can't acknowledge exists because the cognitive dissonance is essentially a logic plague for the entire philosophy of the witness. It's entirely possible the shock was the witness realizing that this universe has had an unintended effect on them and the consensus it relies on as the basis for its entire philosophy (uniformity, equilibrium is not in fact the necessary endstate) doesn't actually exist and that lack of consensus is what the ultimate failure of the flowergame and from the start his existence has been more or less a lie. The Darkness/Shadow is always simply an absence of light it's not a usable construct in itself much like entropy is a reduction of "usable energy" and its confirmation leaving behind lower less useful energy states.

That is terrifying on a bonechilling level

I did look it up, and Triangulum is about half the size of Andromeda, as well as about 50% farther away. And there aren't really any other galaxies of comparible size within our local group. So I would gues that we went from 500ish (300 Andro, 150 Tri, 50 from other places) to two. (based on five minutes of googling and wikipedia)

Just want to note, this is the top comment at the time of writing

​@DagonFrazer2I want to hurt you

I love you all

No I do!

Destiny 2 should pay this man

Twilight in this context is a morality code.

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