Destiny 2 Lore - Why is there a Worm God inside the Pyramid? Vow of the Disciple Lore Explained! 

The more we learn about the darkness, Witness and how the Hive tie into it all, the more I feel really bad for the Hive. They were manipulated by the Worm Gods, but only because the Worm Gods themselves were manipulated by Rhulk, who is in turn only a pawn to the Witness. The Hive aren't evil. They are what happens when the protagonist loses.

Witch Queen content has gone much deeper than I expected! The plot is seriously thickening and I’m loving it! Keep these videos coming Byf! 👏🏼👏🏼

Start of the seasons and expansions are my favorite time because I get to watch Byf videos more frequently

As someone who couldn’t do it on day one I say you may as well just do it my man. Everyone either wants to rush through this thing or wants you to have experience, so the people you’re worried about aren’t going to get to play regardless so you may as well do what you want. Like I want to go through it blind as hell, I don’t want to be spoiled, I want to figure it out myself, but nobody wants to deal with people like me.

Wow....just...wow. Not only do i feel empathy for the Worms. It just proves even further that villains and/or antagonist can be victims in pursuit from what is best for their kin and ones that matter to them. And Rhulk the twist lad he is got his just desserts.

The witness seems like they’re taking apex warriors from each species it comes across and makes them witnesses, kinda like calus was doing with his shadows. I think the “final shape” is just a state of perpetual warfare between the apex warriors of all species

Do you think these supposed “gods” will ever be like “ya know... I just don’t think sol is worth all this trouble.”

There was some theory crafting about Rhulk's eyes and the symbols therein saying that while he's a Disciple of The Witness he's just the disciple of the one pyramid ship and that we might be the disciple of the pyramid on Europa.

I've not done a raid since Leviathan in year 1, but I still really enjoy these raid lore videos. I get to experience them vicariously this way.

this was a particularily good video! i really liked how you ordered the information in an easy way, especially the way you clarified who the title subjugator belongs to and why, before it is used without explanation.

Honestly, the more and more we're learning about the Hive in this dlc, I kinda feel sorry for them... Though they did terrible things to humanity, they were used as puppets basically against their will

I’m surprised byf hasent covered Rhulk backstory and how we know now know that the traveler isn’t the only being of light. Seems like that would be right up his ally

i had to rewind this so many times, because i couldn't believe what i was hearing! 🤯🤯

As always Byf, Thank you so much for bringing us these lore readings.

Glad to see I'm not the only person who forgets I have abilities when running striga and necrotic grips lmao

If my understanding is correct Savathun actually managed to trap Rhulk on her Throne world isn't it?

imo I get what Larry is saying. It really sets the mood of the whole video when you start with a lore quote or piece of the lore relevant to the video. I also feel like it will hook people into staying and watching it all. Not saying leave the video stuff out, just dont put it in the very beginning. If im not mistaken you actually used to do this

This lore answers quite a few questions, most notably, why the Leviathan was basically a hindrance to the Ammonites when he rose from the sea of fundament when he was thought of as some indomitable power. He was already injured and crippled by Rhulk, making him an easy target to be picked off. Wow. Not to mention his rib being there, woo chile.

What's truly sad is when you realize that both this Worm Mother and Eramis were both victims to the exact same type of deceit and circumstance. Both were mothers that wanted nothing but safety and assurance for the future of their children but were both lied to into serving the evil machinations of someone far less concerned with the morality of their actions and with an agenda of their own.

Bah, guess I gotta start carrying the Parasite around... first finding about those rifts it blasts shut, and now that bit with its Mother...

I feel like Bungie will put a lore how even if when "Your lights fade away", we still can retry again and again forevere

Rhulk concept art has been posted on artstation, it's fucking awesome

so basically, the witness is - and this cannot be understated - the most evil piece of shit in the universe and the hive are on an infinite conga line of trauma and exploitation

You know those “lore accurate master chief” videos? Someone should do that for our guardian

This just makes me think how on earth did we casually defeat rulk thus making us more powerful than all the worm gods and leviathan.

I wonder: if the Krill hadn't been corrupted by the darkness, would the Traveler have prioritized them and never cam to humanity? In Savathuun's hidden memory, the first line says something to the effect of "the ight will take them if we don't take them first"

Hopefully there's some extra dialog when you bring Whisper to the worm mother

I actually theorised before world's first raid completion that the rib was that of the fundament leviathan

I gotta do the raid but I don’t care about spoilers personally because I procrastinate on doing raids

Yeah we’re basically in the destiny universe endgame huh? We just killed the first follower of the witness and learned that the hive are a slave-army

Byf, in a lot of the raids you can ask "what is 'insert title of raid here's'"

I am really enjoying this seasons lore. Poor Xita

Yeah, that's it's mouth. Didn't realize it at first lolol

"There's always a bigger fish."

So the Leviathan is dead then? Or is it simply sleeping/in a hibernative state, destined to possibly one day wake up. Should note, that if Rhulk was that immensely powerful, how much of his power was he constantly expending during our fight to make sure to keep to his end of the bargain in keeping her sated, afterall, a being that powerful would never truely lose to guardians, no matter what, so to lose would mean he was extremely handicapped by setting up this very plan and making such a deal. Really makes you wonder what Rhulks true powers entailed and what they would've looked like.

When you get the time can you cover the ostio striga lore and if the mother speaking is xita well?

He knew what we wanted first

What if the Traveler is grooming us in a similar way The Witness & Rhulk did to the Hive (Random thought)

I feel like if Xita was kept alive after we killed Rhulk we would’ve became allies with her tbh

The lore so far in witch queen just makes me cream my crops.

So if xita is dead/slumbering now and therefore not making any more worms, does that mean there's now a limited supply of worms to go around- and therefore, a finite number of Hive left in the system?

Wait I’m confused, did the Raid boss meet with the Worms before or after the white worm washed on shore?

Nice work covering these topics. Do you think you could cut down on the pre-video banter a bit going forward? I understand doing a sponsorship ad for 60 seconds at some point in the video, but to ramble on for 5+ minutes at the beginning of every single video is getting tiresome. Trying to figure out where to skip to to get the actual beginning of the video is frustrating, and I would love it so much if you could try to shorten your video intros (including your title card) so that we are getting to the point within 2-3 minutes or less instead of 5+ consistently.

Didn’t have to do Larry like that😭

]]]Burn the wormspore. The current shall gild the smoke. Breathe Deep.[[[

Are Worms to the Hive what Ghosts are to Gaurdians?

THIS IS AWESOME

Great stuff.

to be honest i kind of feel bad for xita's death she just wanted to make sure her children were safe and now there in a war because of it

I wonder where the great wish dragons play into the fight.

And now the worm becomes a grenade launcher

If bungie wants me to kill the hive , why the lore is making me to have sympathy for them

Wait... The little worms the Hive have inside them are the "larval" stage of a Worm God?

Heh, worm sounds like Variks. Yeeeees?

Yeah, seriously. I got to thinking that the worm gods are...darkness? Or they're linked to it somehow? Cos when the hive went down into fundament they were the temptation...bringing them? Guess I'll watch the video!

I do not feel bad for the Hive, not for the Eliksni, not for the Cabal. I did not shoot first on any of my first encounters with them, they did. And so they died. The Hive follow the Sword Logic because they would die otherwise, but that is still a choice. However, I don't think Rhulk followed the Sword Logic the same way Oryx did, out of survival. Nevertheless they both died to it, to a stronger being conquering them. If the Witness is the same, they too shall fall to it. And in that moment I will remember Oryx, and Crota, and every other being that has fallen because of it.

What perks do you have on osteo striga

Larry is special. Dont be like Larry

2 minutes about what you’re going to talk about, 3 minute advertisement about hello fresh meals another minute of going over what you’re going to talk about again, 1 minute advertisement. Bruh

Skip to @3:30 for the video

What weapon is being used? The smg?

The way you say Xita hurts my heart

We have rhulk, this incredibly powerful and well written villain and his story expanded our knowledge of the destiny universe. He held dominion over ONE pyramid ship. There is hundreds, if not thousands of others. It makes you think of what other crazy ass entities and villains we could see. We havnt even scratched the surface yet.

Oh, my raid team and I spent a solid 20 minutes in awe after seeing this thing. We were REALLY hoping that was the final raid boss. Gotta say, Rhulk was not disappointment, but I really wanted to kill another big worm. I miss Xol.

I appreciate these Lore videos. Love Destiny lore, but just dont have the time to play much anymore, so I can stay caught up for when I do have the chance to jump on for a season here and there. Thanks Byf. Its appreciated.

The fact Rhulk went into the deep and Bodied the leviathan like it wasnt nothing is insane.

I feel bad for her. She was "evil" according to the design of the universe, something that is out of her control. And it's not like she was actively fighting against the Leviathan to spread psychic mayhem. She took her children and waited in the deep. They were already dying because they were weak, but Rhulk "saved" them.

Can we just be honest and admit we all saw the worm gods lying to the krill (hive)? Most of us, Byf included iirc, theorized they were lying about the god wave the whole time.

The Young Wolf is on the prowl again

Insane, worm gods are weak to these disciples. All I can think is how weak Rasputin must truly be in this universe. Humanities greatest weapon is a joke.

Doing the raid itself last actually lends an odd sense of chronology in regards to the character of the final raid boss. I approve.

The fact that there is so much extra dialogue from holding Parasite is so freakin cool.

Still crazy that six ants somehow defeated a direct disciple of the witness

Rhulk really parallels Uldren Sov A LOT. Just replace The Witness’ selfish ends and manipulation and Rhulk’s need to act, prove, worship, please… with that of Uldren and Mara.

Seeing this giant worm inside of the raid on day one will always be one of my favorite Destiny memories. My whole clan was freaking out, it was so shocking! And when we realized it was moving…man. This raid’s set pieces, art and whole atmosphere are so unsettling and artistic. I love it.

Visually and story wise this raid is top tier

the darkness sounds like a pyramid scheme

This opens more questions like Where did the Leviathan come from, and how did it come to know of the worm gods? Also a question for byf. When do you think that we will see from the other worm gods?

Another worm! Fascinating! And we thought that they had always been of the deep!

...wow... And so, the chain of servitude extends yet further. The worms do not commune with the Deep. At least, not out of a desire for strength, as we once believed. (Or they didn't start that way, at least.) ... They are _slaves_ to it. Them, and their Hive. The plot thickens yet further. My mind... in yet tinier pieces with each new story. There is no better time to be a Destiny lore fan than right now.

you can get a similar dialogue regarding "worm father" and worm mother being visited at the beginning of the mission, he also talks about the pyramid just being on command of witness and nothign would stop the pyramid when they call.

Alright, I just found something pretty interesting. I went to the altar of reflection and activated the memory. It went like this. "Let's play 2 lies 2 truths." (This isn't the exact thing she said, but it's close enough) "The Traveler will fall" "The Traveler will leave" "The Traveler isn't the only one of its kind" "The hive aren't the last to be chosen by the light."

I love how sometimes the gameplay doesnt quite show how powerful we are, especially in a raid setting where we are literally bending paracasual forces in order to create outcomes in the space time continuum and extracting the sheer essence of star killers to harness it agaisnt them. But when you read the lore or hear it from a great creator like Byf and you realize the emmense power of the beings we have destroyed. It really shows the depths of our guardian and a fireteam of 6. Rhaulk destroyed the leviathan protecting the worm gods with a single blow. (side note, the more we learn about the darkness and who's on what said, I actually believe the Leviathan Ship that Calus uses is the body of the hollowed out leviathan that was a servant to the light trying to keep creatures from accessing the worms and I believe the ship was a gift from Rhaulk to Calus or at the very least the Leviathan ship we know is not the same as the one that he left the Cabal empire in... sorry about the long side note.) Either way Rhaulk destroyed the leviathan with a single blow and then subjugated the worm gods. We have killed a worm and a couple Hive gods. We have bested a 'harold' of the Witness (I'm talking about Calus). We have learned to move across plains of existence meant for beings outside of reality. We have stood against a dragon with the ability to shape space and time. Now we have eclipsed those feats by destroying a true artist in the darkness, his lore (almost literally) makes Rhaulk the other side of our coin. A being that consider civilizations and species nothing but lessons to learn and goals to sweep. The entire time, The Witness has been watching us, prepping us, potentially grooming us, not so he can face a great challenge but because we are the closes thing to the perfect shape that he has found in all of reality. I always wondered why Oryx smiled when we killed him. It's been talked about but it's simple. It's not because he knew he would be back. It was because he was proud of us. He was watching the beginning of our ascent from the deep. He never came to destroy us. He came to test us and destroy us if we werent worthy, just like Rhaulk talks about. (Sorry about the shpeil, beat the raid last night and Rhaulk is so fascinating that I've been trying to soak up lore and opinions about him.)

Larry is my favorite. I've always wondered why the leviathan isn't mentioned after the sisters encounter with it. Of course I wanted to see it but Rhulk had other plans. I'm still curious about its power and what it was and where it came from

I haven't played in 2 years. I don't even own a gaming system anymore. But I still love the destiny lore. Was always one of the better written lore of any game I've played

Rhulk went full on Doomslayer on a bunch of sea monsters and I am loving it

With how powerful and far reaching the witness is I’m really starting to wonder how the vex fit into everything. They seem so powerful and yet they don’t seem to be doing much and I wonder if they have anything to do with the witness or have their own goals

am I the only one who would love to see Bungie turn BYF into an NPC we can talk to in the game? cuz that would be awesome.

Does this mean there will not be any more worm larvae, meaning that the Hive will die out (or revert back to the Krill)

God, I’d love to kill another hive god but after rhulk it just seems like it would barely be a footnote for our guardian at this point…

It really feels like we're getting closer to some sort of ultimate truth of the universe, and that makes the entire history of this channel so much more worth it.

They aren't called the books of sorrow for nothing I guess. I find myself having more and more empathy for the hive. I really hope in the end savathuun and her siblings become allies. I actually think it might happen considering we have already made an alliance with Fallen and Cabal. Imagine all the original enemy races fighting against the darkness together

I looked at it and before we heard that part I was like “is that part of the leviathan????” Thank you for teaching me the lore so well ☺️

In the other video you classified these new discoveries as a "retcon" and that isn't the case. Finding out more details is not retroactive continuity, that's just finding out more details. If you read the second book in a series and then go back and read the first, you aren't retconning the second book. I know you're framing it as "good retcon" but it's not a retcon at all. It's just more information that we didn't have before.

In a tragic sense of morality, makes you almost pity the worm gods. But, they died serving their sword logic, died serving what they thought to be right. Not everyone gets to be so lucky. Another day in the life of a guardian I suppose. Awesome video.

I actually really like the introductory messages of content delivery. It’s a snapshot of what will be explained and let’s me know what I need to play in game. Normally I like to play the game first and develop my own perspective before turning to these videos which personally I believe hold the community collective lore perspective. Being a good analyst means you need to see both sides. Of course this works the other way too. It tells me what I’m in for and what I need to know and will know when I am unable to play the game, such as the raid. I won’t be able to get to it for the next two weeks. So fully aware of the warning I dive in.

I love the little dialog of the parasite worm on the en of the preservation mission

Byf: watch out for spoils! Me, a pvp player who likes lore: yeah bro.... it's OK lol

Wow… how far up to the strings go? The Hive were puppeted by Savathun, she by the Worm Gods, them by Rhulk, and him by The Witness. Is there one that puppets him?

Rhulk gives off such strong Ebony Maw vibes, it's unbelievable