If someone hooks up with someone that is in a relationship, thats bad but at the end of the day, its not their responsibility to save someone elses relationship. Cheating on someone youve promised to be loyal to is infinitely worse.
if you are willing to hook up with someone knowingly that's in a relationship, it really shows that you dgaf about hurting others. So it's not that far fetched that you might be a shitty person. Immoral = bad either way. Point period. I can't comprehend why people always feel the need to justify one thing worse than the other as if it matters in the end. Valkyrie is a hypocrite and so are many people in that circle.
@@andy2012ization What if that person is telling you that their marriage is functionally over? Is paperwork that important to you?? Fuslie was single, she didn't seek out some married guy to hook up with, some married guy comforted her (after the end of her engagement) and told her his own marriage was ending. This isn't "justification" it's reality. How important is paperwork to you?? Wendy literally cheated on her husband....point period. A person who cares so little about their own spouse is not the same as a person who doesn't care that much about an abstract stranger. Fuslie doesn't know Noah's wife, who Noah is also telling her he is on the verge of divorcing.
@@kasparhauser88 "This isn't "justification" it's reality" - then my comment isn't affected whatsoever so your reply is just adding context which doesn't really make me think better of them. You are replying with the same argument i was against in my reply so idk what else new to tell you. I don't care about paperwork nor did i make an opinion about it. If their situation was dysfunctional and they knew for months on end that they won't work out and they would seek other partners, then sure. But that's not the case, isn't it? They maybe changed now but what they did was a shitty behavior. I don't need to say that Wendy is worse to criticize another, that's just justification in my eyes to spare the parties involved in the argument. If you don't care about a person that you hurt directly because you don't know her, that's on you, i'm gonna say you are trash especially if this is going to blow up in your face when you are a streamer.
Explanatory guide: a) Rae implies that couple A’s situation is much worse “behind the scenes” than couple B’s situation. b) Destiny appears to know everything about the couple A situation and implies that there isn’t anything significant that happened “behind the scenes”. c) Rae is being criticised for bending the truth to avoid simply saying that she treats both couples differently because one is a friend and the other isn’t. d) Rae did that because her teenage audience are hiveminded to have zero tolerance towards any kind of immoral action. Therefore, e) Rae is spineless.
Why even dip into it. Her saying she learned details yesterday sounds like ok so yesterday I chose with these people on what to say because my audience keeps asking my take. Because ofc she knew some drama from already 3 years ago.. I don't get why complicate it. Just say people mess up, you have no problem with the people while cheating is obviously not good and that it is from 3 years ago aka everybody has grown a lot. If people were treated differently by me, that's my bad, that shouldn't have happened. Easy. If the audience goes bonkers it goes on that day at max if even that.
@@ronfoster6963from what I understand lexify is a predator and brought up that noahj thing to distract from him which while I hate cheating when you can just break up with them comparatively lex is way worse
If I'm getting this right. Fuslie was the cheaty in Noah's relationship after the ending of her relationship with edison. But Wendy cheated on Abe while they were in a relationship? If this is the case then I get why she treated it differently. But still pretty bad. Not sure if I end a relationship with a friend over that though.
There could be so much to it. For these people, I think the main thing is their friend wasn't the one cheating. The second thing is that their friend wasn't cheating on their other friend. Other factors that could matter to me IF they applied here, was whether or not Leslie was told by Noah the relationship was practically over, and even Noah's wife agreeing it was already over, but then the wife decided to be (relatably) petty and say her for intents and purposes ex wasn't allowed to move on with his life until certain paperwork had been filed.
Exactly but every time this happened in the past with both Albert and Wendy it was bad people cut them off like it's not something that happens, but now since it's the nice and sweet Leslie we need to grow up and be mature, people can change and a lot of BS excuse. Cheating is cheating it can destroy a person emotionally and made them less trustworthy of people and take time to heal, you are terrible person for that but doesn't make you a monster everyone needs to get away from, people make mistakes and can redeem themselves.
Fuslie is a popular streamer > she's close to a content group called offline TV > offline TV cut off a content creator called wendy for cheating on her spouse also a content creator named Abe (they streamed their wedding) > Fuslie had an intimate physical relationship with another married streamer while he was still married > the internet doesn't like cheating > the community is upset at Offline TV and associated steamers for maintaining their friendship with fuslie as it shows hypocrisy TL;DR Fuslie is a popular streamer involved in a cheating scandal, faced no repercussions, her colleagues are defending her, and community mad
You watched the whole video and still didn't comprehend the point 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ His point is that these people only ever have a nuanced take on things when doing so serves their interest. If it was the other way around and Wendy did what fuslie did they still would have treated her worse for it. Not because they care about the action, it's because they care about the friendship and professional relationship
@@allelitememesaem3916 Yeah, but we have no access to that info. We have absolutely no clue. Destiny might, but since we don't know what Destiny does, the nobody reasonable should be convinced by what he said unless they have religious-tier faith in Destiny.
@@allelitememesaem3916no bro, leslie didnt cheat. Better yet, she didn't cheat on someone who was in the friend group. This type of drama is personal, and Rae lived with Leslie for a while. Destiny's take is braindead to make a big deal over this 😂
I appreciate how asimgold or whatever his name is always gives context to all these videos so we don’t have to be deeply entrenched into streamer culture to know what’s going on
I think cheating in any respect is deplorable. Its not the cheating itself its disrespect of the boundaries in a relationship between 2 people. Because if they are willing to break boundaries that they set up with someone that shows their actual character.
I mean the same could be said for lying, hitting your spouse, stealing shared funds, etc… No need to put emphasis on cheating if the problem is disrespecting the boundaries.
Yes and no, there are tons of times in a relationship you step over some boundary. But cheating is on a whole other level. And unless we are talking about an actual abusive relationship, I don't think even a single instance of hitting someone is as bad.
Yeah but in one case she cut contact with the person and the other she's maintaining all professional contact with them. It doesn't really matter but don't defend her like she's a good person either
@@alejandromelecio it’s not that serious. Maybe she just wasn’t as close to the other person . Also Emily’s happened a long time ago. Not actively in their current friend circle.
@@SASMADBRUV7 IDK thee situation. But yeah. If the "homewrecker" knew and was anything as close as a co-worker or cousin, or friend, they need to be even more so punished/shamed.
When I see content like this coming out from this generation, I am convinced the human species is doomed. Coping skills: 0 This is what our civilization has to be proud of producing?
@@violetk8025 this is a disingenuous argument and a strawman. He’s not being critical of the dating. This is 100% about the actual reactions to the dating issues.
I think what made it worse is that. This was a 3 year long secret that impacted their personal lives and they kept it under wraps. It would be different if it had 0 impact
Fuslie is her friend and she doesn't know Martina (she's not a steamer). Cheating between content creators is personal but also comes with bad press because people defend their favorite content creator
so destinys point is that you could easily come out and defend leslies actions as it stands but they chose to vaguepost about how wendy was way worse behind the scenes so they dont have to distinguish how cheating can be nuanced because in their sphere (online and/or offline) cheating = bad regardless of who does what to whom but the thing about viewership i think is dumb
Fuslie made another content creator called Noah cheat on his wife with her couple years back and Valk is trying to say that Fuslie doing that is a different situation than when Wendy cheated on Albert.
Personally i think if you cheat u suck as a human being its not hard to just end ur current relationship first just quit being selfish and be honest the reason you dont is you want the option to stay with that person when you know you dont deserve the option or you know they valued the relationship clearly more than you. Scum. But lex exposing stuff that all parties had handled privately to distract from his f'd up predator ish is even more gross.
"If I don't cheat, it's because I want to avoid the trouble, not because I want to protect some losers relationship" Says the loser who was recently cheated on, he has the emotional intelligence of a 16 year old
I know nothing of this situation, but the one thing I will say is whatever voice fuslie is putting on is so annoying and cringe, I heard it described as a 1HP voice lol
Cheating while you are in a relationship is WAY worse than being the person someone cheats with. Its not someone else's responsibility to keep a relationship going especially if they aren't actively seeking people in a relationship or going out of their way to home wreck. 99% of the time a relationship is ending anyways regardless of who the person cheats with so it doesn't make sense to put much blame at all on the person someone cheats with.
That's true to a point though. I like destiny but if I walked in on a gremlin like him banging my misses and he acts all nonchalant about it he's a dick for that. Sure most of the blame goes on the person in a relationship but that doesn't erase the guilt in the accomplice either.
And people will get online and say what this guy just said like its nothing to ruin a relationship etc just dont come crying when the sht happen to you 😂😂😂😂😂