It’s good that you don’t know what’s going on here. Hasan didn’t talk about that POS for a long time, so I didn’t even know who he was until recently. And when you find out you’ll see one of the most disgusting and pathetic group of people on earth.
i understand that I myself am very unhinged at times, and i'm definitely not a normie in any good way. but before watching the video, i must ask. what the fuck do you mean "cheese ball drama," how do you make drama out of fucking cheese balls? edit: i have watched the video. i absolutely did not need to know this. in fact, it has definitely reduced any metric of intelligence i may have. these people need hobbies, stat.
@@joaokowalski9736 I love "both sides" 5head trying to act like they have a neutral, yet moral high-ground. No, it just means you have no idea what's going on and you think you're being smart. Hasan, unlike Destiny, actually yells at his chat if they were to do what Destiny's chat does. You can see instances where chat gets influenced by Destiny. Hasan often yells at chat for being toxic and condemns them for harassing people. Meanwhile, you'll always see ddger hating on a Hasan page, they'll even go out of their way to hate-watch the stream. It's very established that's loser behavior Hasabani fans know. Destiny has talked WAY more about Hasan, he has videos dating back TWO YEARS. He and his fans have been obsessively hating him for years lmao, Ironically, some guys think Hasan yelling at chat is him hating his fans too.
I’ve been a destiny watcher for a while now and I have to admit- lately I’ve been so incredibly turned off by his incessant whining, complaining and annoying OBSESSION with Hassan and not being apart of the community he is scornful of. That and his horrific apathy on 30k deaths in Palestine have pushed me to not listen to him. It’s also so refreshing to experience Hasan apart from destiny’s hateful POV. It’s truly amazing to bring yourself out of an echo chamber after years. I think I’ll be here a while. ❤️
I was trying to be nice to one of them and urge them to use their research skills for something productive and less hateful... They insulted my children in response.
To be fair, this is a bit more serious than that. Ludwig all but called him a clout hungry asshole who wouldn't associate with low viewer streamers and got caught in an outright lie. This is after Ludwig has already been called out for lying about Destiny "doxxing" Hasan, lying about Destiny supposedly pimping out Melina at an event that it turns out he wasn't even at, lying about DGG being responsible for a whacky hater message he received without a shred of evidence. However you feel about Destiny, Ludwig clearly has a weird thing going on with lying about him, and it's fair enough to want to call him out. Pretending it's just about "bad vibes" is so fucking stupid for the guy with arguably the thickest skin in the streaming world.
@@jessjess23brooks89 yea I talked to them they were saying slurs are wrong when talking about cracker being a slur and said people shouldn't say slurs it's very sad and weird how they act about cracker but don't mention him just casually saying the n word
They are debating Ludwig on a personal feeling he has... Imagine someone saying "i feel sick because i ate rotting food" and then one of these guys replying "actually the food was only slightly over the due date so it wasnt rotting so youre not allowed to feel sick"
There's legit people in this comment section saying "I watched a video by Maya and qt where they said destiny went upstairs and smoked with some people on a couch. If he did that, he couldn't have left the party in 5 minutes. So actually he was having fun at the party and Ludwig lied"
“After reading many Wikipedia paragraphs to try to find arguments to support my pre conceived edgelord opinion, I have determined that I am right and you are wrong” -Destiny fan
The video they cut together isn't even good. It shows nothing of context and isn't edited together in any way to do proper storytelling. Like as someone who doesn't follow Ludwig I got nothing from that video. Either positive or negative.
It's just similar to the IDF tactics of trying to muddy the waters enough to make normies think "I don't know if either side is saying the truth so I won't take a side"
they'll also cheer that their videos go "semi-viral" for getting 5k or so likes, unaware that they're all from other DGG and not actually reaching anyone else
The funniest part is the video contradicts nothing. Ludwig claims Destiny refused to play the game where they were tossing cheeseballs into people's mouths, and the video is of Destiny tossing it into his own mouth (meaning he didn't play). Then his community goes to bat saying the vibes couldn't possibly be off, and in the process they prove the vibes were f*cked. Edit: the school unaliving song is the perfect choice for people insisting the vibes were fine.
Son, you're on youtube debating cheese puff drama and if a man threw or let others throw cheese puffs in his mouth. Go outside and touch some grass, sun doesn't kill you.Swear to god you talk about Destiny's freaks like you lot aren't a bunch of unhinged antisocial weirdos yourselves.
If that was the case then a video would of been posted showing people playing that game, this was being streamed and a lot of people took part as ludwig said Not even ludwig denied Destiny played after the video came out so I’m not sure why you guys are even trying to pretend otherwise
@@AdamDeRossi How do you know they weren't playing the game in that stream? Also Ludwig clearly stated Destiny didn't play, so it's weird you're lying about it.
i dont watch hasan's streams, nor watch alot of his videos all the way through due to my short attention span, but this whole destiny and his fans losing their god damn minds over the most peanuts shit is so fucking funny to me. i havent watch a single second of this vid, i just see the thumbnail and im like "maybe destiny fans dont need to touch grass, just stay inside forever."
@@NervinJ"if you don't want to be viciously harassed and doxxed by my community you shouldn't have made even the slightest criticism of my favorite streamer" isn't the own you think it is
@@NervinJ i hope you, the troll that you are that probably turned off notifications like a lil baby boi, still hold this mentality now that there's replies cooking you like sunday dinner lol
I really don't think you get the point; people weren't trying to prove Ludwig actually likes Destiny or that he thinks Destiny had good vibes, they were making the point that Ludwig completely lied about what happened. It's funny all these people in this comment section talking about how Detiny stans don't understand social interaction, when all of you completely missed the point of the guy who was calling Ludwig out for being a liar.
@@brentoncarter4275 I know. I'm saying Destiny as a lib is closer to the nazis and people who hate him just because they think he's a "leftist". I'm going to include people like Vaush too, also a lib and not a leftist. Destiny is probably gonna start his openly right wing arc soon and not even call himself a lib anymore
What’s even happening? I keep seeing stuff about this but I have no idea what started it, just that Divorcelli’s being a freak towards Ludwig (and also maybe slime?)
@@jjrneptuneslime made a comment on the yard that Destiny just reads Wikipedia on stream for Isreal/Palestine coverage (which he does). He gets mad at Ludwig and angrily tweets at Slime. Ludwig responds with a non serious meme. Destiny responds with a pic a qt crying from the deepfake porn situation. Ludwig then says Destiny has terrible vibes. Destiny fans try to use facts and logic to prove that destiny DEFINITELY doesn't have terrible vibes. Destiny continues to do heinous shit like telling his discord that he should masturbate to QT deepfake porn and that he should make fun of Slime cause his dad died in from of him from a crack overdose. And somehow destiny and his community still somehow think this is Hasan's fault and that he's "feeding Ludwig" talking points. All the while, Hasan is on vacation 🙄
Ask not what I can do to fix my fucked vibes but what YOU can do to deal with them. I am not responsible for how fucked my vibes were. - Destiny probably
I think these people want to believe everyone else is as obsessed with Destiny as they are, so when they make an offhand comment about him it MUST mean they’re obsessed and if they slightly misremember something involving him, it’s actually a conspiracy to make people hate Destiny which is the biggest deal in the world.
There's legit someone in these comments trying to tell me "no you just don't get it, the cheese ball thing is a big deal all Destiny's friends are gonna make videos about it"
I looked at his subreddit, it felt like seing feral animals at the zoo. It's a really funny exhibition. They're so obsessed with "logic", despite not understanding most logical fallacies and failing to realize that FEELINGS are integral to human interactions.
@@reddragon3163 Yep. Saw them claiming "Appeal to authority!" When a black man said "I'm black, I don't use the n-word myself". He's establishing that he has personal experience and a stake in the game, not saying "I'm correct because I'm black". Insane.
@@reddragon3163 And they don't even know how to use these logical fallacies. Appararently you can't make valid points and insult your opponent at the same time. Anything Norman said was completely dismissed because he was mean to Destiny and called him names :(((((
Its narcissism, but these people have never learned to mask themselves and "act normal" instead theyve been taught that "feelings" are not normal. Thats why they seem so alien
It's unfortunate that Destiny is both ignorant of history and casually, and insanely, racist, which probably explains why it was so inappropriate for Steve Bonelli to be debating Norman FInkelstein on Lex Friedman's podcast. No surprise his audience is toxic as well.
Yeah i didnt know much about destiny until now but hes just openly racist and islamophobic and his fans are like "hes so edgy we stan"? When he was being absolutely disgusting towards qt i saw comments defending saying thats just the kind of edgy person he is, and i was just like are you even listening to yourself??
At the very least, his exposure to a wider audience caused him to be seen as a weird ignorant gamer who doesn't deserve to be on all these shows he's brought on
Absolutely wild to me how people throw out baseless claims about destiny and his community, insult his personal life (literally the ONLY arguments I ever see), and don't expect him and his community to defend themselves. Destiny didn't even say anything negative to slime except "damn is this serious enough to need a whole ass tweet thread lol" when slime went hard with a personal attack out of nowhere. THAT is what started all this, funny how Hasan never mentions it. But sure, just keep calling people "obsessed" or "racist" when they prove you wrong, that's really going well for leftists.
@alkshy8350 "baseless" he literally said the n word (nothing new, least racist destiny moment) in his recent tweet but keep talking ig 😮💨🫡 least parasocial d fan
Ah yes, because I'm sure Hasans community is so much more social and better than Destiny's community. Both communities are just as unhinged and chronically online as each-other.
@@ChrisM-bn5vr Literally yes, I hate hasans community, but compared to the dgg community, yes, they are actual human beings who can form healthy relationships.
Destiny and his community are classic examples of people who dish it online but could never handle a real face to face, especially with homies as wholesome as Ludwig and QT.
I'd love for these people to actually interact with people offline who don't care to spare their feelings. They need a "you're a fantastic moron" moment.
Hasan fans do the exact same type of shit online, I love Hasan acting like he's standing on the moral high ground of Destiny and would never act as unhinged as him, or his fans would never do the same type of shit to defend him. There's a million Hasan dickriders who would do the exact same deep dive type of shit to Defend Hasan. There's also a million clips of Hasan out there being critical of people in the same way Destiny does, while Hasan calls him unhinged for it. Complete hypocrite. It's also funny how whiney and conceited Hasan comes across in this video. Also before someone calls me a Destiny fan I'm not, I think I've watched him stream once in my life.
@@Windwalker88 destiny fans lying as making things up, are we? You clearly don't know anything lmaoo. You know these things you can look up these things actually debunk them yourself... We know you're the idiots who think Norman lost because he called Destiny a moron rather than you actually paying attention to what he said
Yes, but, have you considered that, hypothetically, they fuel their existence by being annoying? Have you? Hypothetically speaking, they have no friends, so therefore, they must engage in debates with people they have never met.
Umm actually thats not true. Here is this 5 part series i will compile clips that prove you wrong and show that destiny can in fact go 5 seconds without debating. checkmate liberal
Wasn't the claim that Destiny never stayed at the party and did the cheese all throwing thing? How has it shifted into his vibes because he is a "wallflower"?
I’ve never seen destiny fans on the internet before but yesterday I saw them in a hasan alt Chanel going crazy. This one dude spammed “lasan” on ever hasan video, like you click on his profile all you see is “lasan”. And kept telling me to cope. Another dude was telling me destiny talking about genocide being good and necessary was out of context. Like the level of parasocial to go on another yters video to spam this shit.
Oh yeah, they are VERY easy to spot lmao. They somehow make XQC juicers look more well-rounded and they're sharing their last few braincells with XQC. At least XQC tries to learn even though there's still plenty he's ignorant on
Actually as a Des-tiny fan Ive ran his voice through 37 voice analyzers and found that his voice is normal in terms of; tempo, apature, peak, seismic tension, pitch, volume distribution, and volume equality. Retract your statement now.
@@lishanimations9852 You know they're on any video with Hasan's name or face lmao. They probably barely leave the internet while they're hate-watching. If you go on his channel, Destiny has been talking about Hasan for the past 2 years lmao.
@@lishanimations9852 they post shit in their loser discord to brigade any piece of media that portrays him negatively. The Frogan shit on LSF was so obviously manufactured because she's a mod for Hasan and you can't directly talk about Hasan and Destiny on the sub
As someone who isn't a fan of either streamer, Hasan and his community are just as bad if not worse. They will bend over backwards to defend Hasan and attack the people he doesn't like, just like some Destiny fans would do. Watching Hasan rant for 40 minutes about how unhinged Destiny and his community are for being critical of him is hilarious, Hasan is the definition of a hypocrite. At least Destiny can be somewhat honest with himself about his intentions and the way he conducts himself online, while on the other hand Hasan has this holier than thou personality and acts like he's so much better and standing on the moral high ground above all of his adversaries. Hasan is arguably more obsessive and unhinged when it comes to his opinions of Destiny as opposed to vice versa.
@@ChrisM-bn5vr "who isn't a fan of either" people still not getting what's going on and thinking they know more lmao. Hasan is very notorious in the community for yelling at chat to be normal. He HAS condemned those people, your fault you just dont pay attention. Let me guess you watched Destiny's interpretation of what happened between Ethan and Hasan.
Then you should talk? well not really talk more like listen to his fans their manic episodes. Basically sociopaths who only care about politics to ego boost and verbally harass people.
He seems like he REALLY wanted Ludwig to like him, and when Slime (Ludwig's best friend) made that comment about him, he got so butthurt that he decided to go ultra weirdo mode
Also Destiny said at the end he doesn't want to be called progressive or far left anymore.....(which we all knew he wasn't)....but congratulations to The Yard for making D lose his damn mind
@@NervinJ Brother, the fact that you’re in here within the first hour of the video dropping replying to every comment in Destiny’s defense proves you’re insane.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Yo why do you care. Destiy's vibes were off at birth way before Lud. He calls himself Destiny wtf. Shit doesn't need to be fair. Bulling isn't fair. Destinys get bullied tho, it is what it is.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2pwhat does it matter if Ludwig lied? That's like saying "my dad lied when he said he was just going out to get milk" no one cares. It's not like he called destiny a .pdf or something. Unlike Destiny's friends that seem to have a habit of doing that.
The reason they're so adamant that his vibes are good in that super specific instance is because it paints a simple and clean picture of how Bonerelli is weird and antisocial. Obviously, you can't make that judgment from that one video alone, but it is a little awkward moment. However, his fans have to insist that it wasn't awkward in any way, and actually, you'd have to be the weird one to think that it was awkward because THEY HAVE THOSE SAME EXACT BAD VIBES and are very insecure that people look at them like the asocial freaks that they currently are, hopefully they will get out of it one day 🤞
To be fair, if I didn't know these people well and they invited me to a party and started throwing cheese balls at me I'd probably say "no" as well. But I'm lactose intolerant.
I can’t disagree on what you’re trying to say.. maybe reword how you say it. Being antisocial doesn’t make you a freak.. I’m tired of hearing “progressives” talk about how unhinged a group or thought is while simultaneously feeding the fire by calling them freaks. I know you mean this small subgroup of humanity that follows a streamer, but it can so easily be taken out of contexts. Watching Hasan react to this is kind of cringeworthy. Like why is it important, because it’s not..
@danielbrooks4057 I agree with that, I should be more clear in pointing to toxic online communities as amplifying completely valid mental health issues. It's ok that people are weird or have mental health problems, but not ok that online communities feed into making everything worse rather than helping get proper treatment.
First time hearing of this drama & my god destiny fans are insufferable 💀 also destiny saying that about QT was absolutely uncalled for, unwarranted, and vile. QT's not even involved other than the video she posted leave her alone 💀 Also getting this mad over being called a Wikipedia reader is another level of mentally unwell holy crap
@@Vincisomething Lol Hasan never yelled at them for doing that, when Ethan confronted Hasan about it Hasan started trying to justify his chat and that's why they started to have beef. Hasan's community is just as "unhinged" as Destiny's community, they do the exact same type of shit to defend Hasan or go after people Hasan doesn't like. It's hilarious Hasan acting like he's holier than thou and his community is so much better than the "parasocial" people of his enemy's communities, as if his community doesn't have a parasocial relationship with him and would bend over backwards to defend him. Hasan is a complete hypocrite, hearing him whine for 40 minutes about how unhinged Destiny and his community is, is hilarious.
It makes me laugh so much that destiny got this triggered over what is seemingly the most mild ass comments towards him It literally just comes off as destiny schizo raging over the fact that he is the inverse of ludwig being that lud has friends in tons of diff streamer circles, has good charisma/stage prescence and is generally decently well liked
The issue isn't that Ludwig made a mild ass comment. The issue is that, after Ludwig already lied about Destiny and his community three times previously, now he has been caught out again. At some point you can't just let one of the biggest streamers on the planet keep slandering you baselessly.
@@GR33TINGSEARTHL1NGSdog this is the 3rd comment I’ve seen your long ass essay replies defending destiny under please go outside touch some grass and get a life god damn 😂
@@GR33TINGSEARTHL1NGS Nothing has proved he 'lied' unless you have the logical reasoning of a child. You can't disprove a feeling someone has. Your comments and the mob only validate his opinion of Destiny being a bad vibe, so well done for being part of that. Calling it slander is absolutely hilarious.
I previously held the position that ideally all content ever created would be able to be preserved. However, after seeing cheeseball-gate video essays.... I don't know anymore
@@NervinJDude, I hope you have real people in your life that care about you because you need help. Genuinely, caring this much and defending a stranger’s fucked vibes is really weird. Get off the internet, take a break, please.
I turned this on rather aimlessly as background noise, but goddamn this makes me feel old. I've heard of Destiny before, but I really only know him as "Dude who debates" I guess? Now he says the N-word for fun? Why do we care? Y'all have fun, I think I'm just gonna like do old people shit now. I think I'm gonna take up knitting again. Yarn has gotten more expensive, and that makes me sad :( You know, the other day, I was JoAnn's and they put the clearance sticker on used yarn, but they didn't change the price. Like half the ball was gone, and it was still like $4. The audacity.
@@shadylittlefox I think there are probably a few other ways to stretch the yarn beyond what I'm doing to get the most out of a single ball, but I was making a scarf for a friend who is starting a new job in Buffalo, NY. No matter what it's just gonna be a lot of a lot of yarn.
The part about rationalizing that "actually i partook in the game therefore an attempt to initiate friendship was established" is something i would expect to hear in an episode of young sheldon.
This whole Borelli situation reminds me as a child of that odious creature on the playground who, if losing, would try to change the rules of the game to his advantage, and you just stopped playing with him anymore, because that was fucking weird.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p bro why are you on this video if you hate hasan? he’s right about you destiny fans you need to take a step back and not defend him so hard. ludwig is right about him lmao his vibes are awful
No, the vibes don't matter. It's about the fact that Ludwig was portraying him as an asshole too clouted and stuck up to play cheeseball, when in fact, Destiny did play cheeseball because he wasn't being a clout head. I think Destiny could give less of a shit about the vibes
i like how all hasan fans have to say "seems" when talking about destiny because they dont actually watch his videos but just listen to anything daddy hasan says
This is so fvcking disturbing and parasocial... I'm so sorry this is happening. Tbh Destiny should just be banned from the internet altogether at this point.
Ludwig: Destiny is kinda lame in my opinion Destiny: SOURCE?! We need to bring back bullying dude. Destiny and his community do not get shoved in lockers nearly as much as they need to
Ludwig lied about the entire event he used to justify his opinion though. Ludwig can hate Destiny, but at least we know now Destiny is very jovial in person. Thanks Ludwig 😀
I cant imagine worshipping some online dude you never met or dont know personally. So weird. They need to go touch grass and make real friends, and move on from this tribalistic para-social behaviour
It's coming from a place of empathy, and they just haven't taken a step back and reflect that this is a primal urge. They are imagining themselves being slandered, and feel an urge for revenge. That's also why so many people here feel are parasocial in the same way. We all wanna protect what we identify with.
Funny, I once thought Ludwigs vibes were off (based off a old video of his where he said fame wasn't luck based), but once I realized he was connected to Hasan I gave him another shot and loved his content. Dont think that'd be the same case with big D.
Destiny fans thinking "bad vibes" hinges on the cheeseball story and that every additional detail provided by Ludwig to further support his feelings is a 🤓 "contradiction" is a perfect example that they cannot/have not understood or opperated in social spaces without using the framework of debates. Even funnier when they tried to gaslight Ludwig into adopting their impassioned misinterpretation of his initial cheeseball story so that they can say he lied when none of his statements contradicted eachother. Destiny refused to join the group game and decided to catch his own cheeseball. Thats the story 😂
You know, maybe China was on to something limiting people's daily internet consumption. This behavior demonstrates to me that some people need limits imposed for their own safety... and ours.
Reminds me of when Nathan Fielder tested a guy's urine to prove that he was empirically fun to hang out with. But when Nathan Fielder did it, it was a joke...
I thought that was the problem for a long time. He might of made advances and was rebuffed. Now I think most of it is based in jealousy that Hasan is just a better person.
