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DESTROYING A MONSTER INTEGRAL: int (xln(1+e^x))/(1+x^2)^2 from -ve to +ve infinity 

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@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
The answer is pi/4 I forgot a factor of 1/2 during the integration by parts
@user-pn6ys7rw9q
@user-pn6ys7rw9q Год назад
i thought i was wrong 😂, just let t=-x, simplify it. Then there’s going to be some easy integrations. Don’t even need a pen to write.
@user-vd7om2vr2r
@user-vd7om2vr2r Год назад
There is a much simpler method. Making substitution x -> -x reduces the integration to elementary
@kshitijkumar5629
@kshitijkumar5629 Год назад
Yes
@daddy_myers
@daddy_myers Год назад
The result should be π/4, you dropped a factor of ½ in the IBP section. Also, how about just performing a magical transformation straight from x to -x, and seeing where that takes you? You'll be pleasantly surprised.
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
Damnnnnn that is awesome!
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF Год назад
Sorry, I don’t see it. The log terms combine but I do not know what to do from there.
@daddy_myers
@daddy_myers Год назад
@@GreenMeansGOF After you simplify your transformed integral, you'll be left with log(1+e^-x), which can be re-written as log((1+e^x)/(e^x)). Just apply properties of logarithms, and you'll notice that you're left with your original integral and some other basic Calc 2 integral.
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF Год назад
@@daddy_myers oh! I see.
@michaelbaum6796
@michaelbaum6796 Год назад
This is a real ingenious solution. I enjoyed the video👍
@Obotron7
@Obotron7 Год назад
Your solution is more elegant than mine. I IBP like you did but then I brute forced the resultant integral by splitting the integral at 0 and using geometric series for 1/(1+exp(-x)). Had to derive some other general integrals so it took me almost 2 whiteboards to get to the answer XD.
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
Points for the effort
@manstuckinabox3679
@manstuckinabox3679 Год назад
I was an integration by parts hater, until I met this integral... bro this was so awesome! although I dought that I would have been able to guess a factorization of e^x/2... thanks for teaching me this trick!
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
SUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
@ericthegreat7805
@ericthegreat7805 Год назад
I think a way to conceptually understand this is by a "limiting integral". We have I = S_-oo^oo x*ln(1+e^x)/(1+x^2)^2 dx Now what is interesting about this integral is that if you take the limit x --> +oo, we can define this to be, since e^x >> 1, IL ~= S_-oo^oo x*ln(e^x)/(1+x^2)^2 dx = S_-oo^oo x*x/(1+x^2)^2 dx = S_-oo^oo [x/(1+x^2)^2]*x dx which we then integrate by parts Differentiate x Integrate [x/(1+x^2)^2]dx --> -1/2(1+x^2)^2 and in the first limit we get IL ~= 0 - (-1/2)*S_-oo^oo dx/(1+x^2)^2 = 1/2 * (pi/2) = pi/4 which is exactly our result. So using the integral version of the squeeze theorem, if IL = lim(I as x-> oo) = pi/4 then so does I at the bounds x --> +-oo since the integral is symmetric.
@EtienneSturm1
@EtienneSturm1 10 месяцев назад
awsome !
@mohammedal-haddad2652
@mohammedal-haddad2652 Год назад
That was amazing, thank you very much.
@nuranichandra2177
@nuranichandra2177 Год назад
This is not annihilation but nuking. Good one
@Decrupt
@Decrupt Год назад
DESTROYING INTEGRALS WOOOO!
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
SUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
@zunaidparker
@zunaidparker Год назад
Holy. Shit! That was awesome!
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 Год назад
Integration by parts + odd even decomposition of function odd even decomposition of function Function can be decomposed into f(x) = (f(x)-f(-x))/2 + (f(x)+f(-x))/2 and (f(x)-f(-x))/2 is always odd and (f(x)+f(-x))/2 is always even Finally we get integral 1/2Int(1/(1+x^2),x=0..infinity)
@subhrayanbarman1654
@subhrayanbarman1654 Год назад
I = int (-inf, +inf) xln(1+e^x) /(1+x²)²dx Let, x=tant=>dx=sec²tdt I= int[-π/2, π/2] sintcost ln(1+e^tant) dt =int[-π/2, π/2]-sintcost ln(1+e^-tant) dt =int[-π/2, π/2] [-sintcost ln(1+e^tant) +sin²t ]dt =>2I =int[-π/2, π/2]sin²tdt 2I =2[0, π/2]sin²tdt =2[0, π/2]Cos²tdt =>2I = [0, π/2](sin²t+cos²t)dt =π/2 I=π/4
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
Nice one
@aayushiajith.
@aayushiajith. Год назад
Can anyone suggest me a book to start with feynmanns integrals???
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
There's no such book....however whenever you see an integral, try going feynman on it....that's how you practice
@danielrosado3213
@danielrosado3213 Год назад
Amazing
@danielrosado3213
@danielrosado3213 Год назад
What program do you use for your videos? I love the way you can scroll right down.
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
It's just the default software on my note phone
@danielrosado3213
@danielrosado3213 Год назад
@@maths_505 cool, thanks!
@yudoball
@yudoball Год назад
Lol that's beautiful
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
Bro! been a while How's it going???
@yudoball
@yudoball Год назад
@@maths_505 oh damn, you remembered me! That's crazy haha Thanks. I'm doing fine :D just haven't been doing math lately xD
@yudoball
@yudoball Год назад
@@maths_505 what about you, how are you ?
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
@@yudoball doing good bro Just hit 11k subs alhamdullilah so looks like I'm doing something right 😂
@yudoball
@yudoball Год назад
@@maths_505 that's nice. And you had a couple videos that blew up with +100k views. Stay healthy and take care of yourself bro :D.
@MayukhMondal-ob8fp
@MayukhMondal-ob8fp Год назад
I think there should be -1/2(1+x^2) at 0:41 , If I am wrong rectify me....
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
You're right...I forgot about that factor 🤣
@NurHadi-qf9kl
@NurHadi-qf9kl Год назад
Misalkan y=1+x^2 maka x dx=(1/2)d(1+x^2)=(dy/2). |=|ln(1+e^x).y^-2(dy/2)
@rohkofantti8673
@rohkofantti8673 Год назад
Monsters don't exist.
@mohnedhammadi4106
@mohnedhammadi4106 Год назад
The result should be pi/4
@piyushraj760
@piyushraj760 Год назад
i think answer should me pi/4 can u please check once
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
Yup I forgot the 1/2 on the way
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 Год назад
1/2ln2+1/4pi....no,correggo ln2 non c'è
@petterituovinem8412
@petterituovinem8412 Год назад
Maths 420
@hayksargsyan4416
@hayksargsyan4416 Год назад
Wtf
@SatyanarayanaMudunuri
@SatyanarayanaMudunuri Год назад
your pens are distracting and presentation & writing very cluttered
@AC-tn4it
@AC-tn4it Год назад
Why isn’t this integral Odd?
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