Detailed Explanation of Baseboards vs Radiators | Radiant vs Convection Heat

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Due to their simple yet robust design, cast iron radiators have a long and proven track record in the domestic steam and hot water heating industry.
They are suitable for a very wide range of applications, from smaller residential to large commercial, and can work with virtually any type of hot water or steam boiler.
Advantages:
Inexpensive - when compared to other types of radiators on the market (aluminum, panel type, Victorian style and others).
Higher level of comfort - uses radiant heat instead or convection, resulting in more natural and proper temperature distribution.
Flexibility in installation - with a wide operating temperature range from 150°F to 220°F
High thermal mass - means less equipment (i.e. boiler) cycling & wear and higher energy efficiency.
It’s simple to install - no special parts are needed (such as diverter valves and thermostatic valve heads needed for panel style radiators).
Disadvantages:
Heavy - a single cast iron radiator may weigh anywhere from 40 to 150 pounds or more and will require a physically able person (or two) to position it in place.
Rough look - the radiator has a rough, unpolished surface which may be unappealing to some.
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@quetzal4042 6 месяцев назад

Great advice. When I see people trashing their radiators and converting to forced air, I just about cry. I instead kept the radiators and switched from a boiler to a geothermal hydronic heat pump as the heat source. The radiators now rarely exceed 110º. On really cold days they'll get up to 120º, and that's plenty enough to keep the house warm. It's astonishing just how efficient they are at distributing heat into a room.

@Vladdyjr3526 7 месяцев назад

Writing my license on tuesday this channel is helping me study big time

@wawawis Год назад

Actually, I'm pretty sure there was a fan-assisted steam setup in one of my old schools. I still remember hearing the banging in the pipes during heating season. The air handlers were in the corner of the classrooms with modular duct spreading across the outer walls just under the windows. In a couple of my other schools, this duct work was hidden within a cabinet-like structure.

@lisainnewarknj8313 2 года назад

Thank you for the comprehensive information. Thank you for leading.

@matthewcaulfield4371 4 года назад

Very helpful vid, thanks.

@garthoppel1274 3 года назад

You helped a lot,thanks

@Selahsmum 3 года назад

This is good information thank you!

@robaltherobal Год назад

An excellent, informative video!!!!

@denisrhodes54 5 лет назад

cast iron radiators can also dry laundry. larger sizes handle bed sheets no problem

@PEXUniverse 5 лет назад

very true

@Grit489 4 года назад

Great info !

@wayneblay9532 2 года назад

@@PEXUniverse what are iron radiators? and do they go on like automatically?

@Hambxne 5 лет назад

thanks!

@dirtyarjun 4 года назад

very useful thanks

@hiphil8559 2 года назад

I am enjoying your program. I have a question. Whis is better to use, "cast iron baseboard radiators and the copper pipe radiators."

@asianseyesRpretty2 4 года назад

Useful info

@nelsonbrito4964 2 года назад

I have cast iron radiators in my house, cast iron rads keep heating after the boiler's turned off, but they also take way longer to heat because there's way more water in them than a 3/4 tube that baseboards use, also the heat isn't uniform (at least in my house) which has very high ceilings. Baseboards can be distributed around the entire rooms making a curtain of heat. I'm thinking of upgrading to baseboards because of this.

@rhondamariewright 2 года назад

Super well done. I love it. I’ve been telling my husband for years that I prefer radiators with steam heat because they keep the house feeling so much warmer. Now I have justification. Lol!

@PBS-nm1uu 2 года назад

thanks for the info.

@pcno2832 4 года назад

It's really a matter of degree. Depending on the temperature and the objects (especially insulating ones like sofas) nearby, the heat from a cast iron radiator can be up to 80 or 90 percent convective, but the radiant portion can still be felt. And, some of the heat from a baseboard it still radiant; even if you block all the air, you can still feel some heat from it, especially if the metal has a heavy gauge. And, even underfloor heating generates some convection current. Of course, the higher the radiant portion, the more comfortable and efficient the system. One thing I'd like to try would be putting a high-mass cover (thick metal or tile) over a fin-tube radiator element, preserving the dimensions needed for convection. The air going through would heat the heavy cover, increasing the radiation to anything (or one) near it.

@vbrh01 2 года назад

That's exactly what I was searching for when I found this video. Did you do it? How did it work out? (A contractor put 20' of fin baseboard on the same loop as 2 cast iron radiators..in a room with 3 outside walls - 2 are all windows, no basement and no floor above it. To say it's cold is an understatement. *sigh*)

@pcno2832 4 месяца назад

@@vbrh01 Sorry to say I never had the opportunity. I'll add another reply if I do.

@stevehildebrandt4247 19 дней назад

I have baseboard heat and I want to add an old school radiator in the same room. Can I replace a section of the the baseboard with a radiator? The guys who did our addition did a lousy job in our family room and it gets cold. Thought if added 1 or 2 it would make a difference. Thoughts? We have a new boiler that was replaced 6 months ago.

@wayneblay9532 2 года назад

I have like 5 radiator heats in my apartment upstairs in the third floor. I have one like in my room, one in the bedroom, one in the kichten, and one in the bathroom, and also one in the playroom. as they white, they go on like automatically. without as we don't do like any of this. like not like these once. and they working pretty well. but sometimes we may have the problem, that however the heat takes time to come on, or when it's not warm enough, means when someone don't set up the meter up high or however when the piece of the bolier is broken, or when the boiler piece came off that the radiators are leaking. which we Have the problem before in the past. that was the year of 2019-2020. but thanks for the video!

@JacanaProductions Год назад

So the big radiators run at lower temps than the little baseboard heaters right?

@jejemon123 4 месяца назад

You are genius!!.

@snowzombie86 2 года назад

👌 Nice

@EseMorro610 2 года назад

I want to know why my radiator would be in a vacuum i’m trying to bleed the air out but instead of anything coming out it’s pulling air in ?? Any help anyone please?

@benwolf5264 2 года назад

fire

@rickgillis1613 2 года назад

I have a radiator, 3 column it has wall mounts, it has in flow bottom left, outflow bottom right. I have cut a new door opening to the outside, now when the door opens past 90* it hits the valve. I want to move the right side out flow to the left top & plug that bottom hole on the right to allow the door to open all the way. There really is no other choice for radiator placement, I have to cut out & re pipe inside the wall but I am wondering .... should the outflow be at the top or the bottom of the Rad ?

@PEXUniverse 2 года назад

If you keep your current setup and just move the outflow to the top left, it may make the radiator less efficient. If the right side is not usable, inflow through left side top and outflow through the left side bottom may be the best option. Or you can do top right/bottom left if that would not also block the door. If you're not sure then a contractor should help you make the best decision for your home!

@1sornram 2 года назад

Do you know if the cost to change from forced air vent to baseboard heater is too expensive? I don't like the 2nd method and want to change. Thanks

@PEXUniverse 2 года назад

It depends on the size of your home and how much you might have to replace/convert.

@Quagmire88 3 года назад

Do you have to use copper lines to hook up a radiator? Can I install a radiator system using PEX? Is there much of a heat loss in copper lines vs PEX?

@PEXUniverse 3 года назад

Yes! If you do, sizing is what you need to consider before taking that step. The best bet is to calculate the btu's needed at each radiator and then size your lines accordingly.

@Bacardibombillo 4 года назад

Radiator and install ceiling fan on low. Best

@Guy_de_Loimbard 4 года назад

The house I grew up in had the best of both worlds on the ground floor: hot-water baseboard radiators. The upstairs bedrooms had the stand-up grill radiators.

@javaTL 4 года назад

Did that end up working out as good combination? Any particular reason why you wouldn't want the radiator on the first floor and baseboard on the 2nd?

@klime2011 4 года назад

No I actually subscribed. I like when ppl know their stuff

@PEXUniverse 4 года назад

Thank you Kelley, we are trying our best to provide the most useful information to our viewers!

@jonwoll6586 2 года назад

i grew up with radiator's. was so nice to heat up your clothes before playing in the snow.

@alimohame4153 3 года назад

I have a question if I have radiator on my house can I replace it for baseboard.?

@PEXUniverse 3 года назад

It can be but it might not be as efficient

@jeffhopkins979 Год назад

I just did an addition adding a first floor 5 x14 room for a bathroom with schluter dita-heat electric floor and a second floor 13.5 x 13.5 room. We have a boiler that circulates hot water through 3/4 inch copper to baseboard radiators throughout our house. My wife does not like the baseboard heaters because they take up the entire wall, so I ordered the cast aluminun Fondital blitz Ardesia gray / 8 element / B4 500 which is supposed to produce 4288 BTUs at 176 ° F. Then I questioned myself. Can I mix the one cast aluminum radiator in with the rest of the system being baseboards. Not sure if this makes a difference, but the new radiator will be connected on its own run and return with a regulator valve. I plan to use 3/4 oxygen barrier plex to complete he new run of which the beginning exists from the baseboard heater that I cut out of the kitchen. Also, if this will work, does it matter if the valve connecting the radiator has a 3/4 inch opening to match the run. Thank you for your help!

@RJG772 Год назад

i have the same question. Wish these questions would be answered here. Did you get an answer anywhere else?

@odaiahmed6885 4 года назад

Hi i have house and i want change my radiator heating to baseboard heating can i do it in my house 7 radiator???

@PEXUniverse 4 года назад

You absolutely can, the same hot water supply line used for the radiator could be replaced with baseboard heating or by running a new line if you have a manifold installed. If you're unsure how to do so yourself, we recommend consulting either a trained professional or someone you know with experience as to what would be best for your situation.

@Mike-gz4xn 4 года назад

Why would you want to do that? Radiators are the best.

@jayraymondmgtow4200 2 года назад

Does anyone here know how to cut off the baseboard heater if it’s not electrical? I have 2 roommates who have mental issues because they love the thermostat to be on 80 all day long. I have the smallest room with only 1 window and it literally hell hot in my room. Like not an inch of air, even if I open the window. The heat even overpowers my AC, which they complain I use too much. But I have no choice because 80 degrees on the thermostat is way too high to me. They have no kind of understanding or reasoning, so I have been stuck in this situation for awhile. They both have bigger rooms so maybe they don’t feel the heat as much? My room is like a hole in the wall. It’s so hot that sometimes I have to sleep with no shirt on or pants! And I have the AC on and a fan on high blowing directly on me! Once in a blue they set it to 70 or slightly lower and I’m able to breathe. But I’m desperately seeking for an answer for what I can do. I wish I could just break this damn baseboard heater! I want it permanently off. Can I cover it with something to block the heat? Please somebody let me know if there are any options possible to stop this!! Thanks

@FromsoftgoatKaj 3 года назад

I have a radiator on wheels and it accidentally fell over do I have any problems?

@walterbrunswick 2 года назад

you probably have an electric oil-filled radiator

@Threezy3pac 3 года назад

Ia have a question?I live in a 6 unit apt.building and we have the radiator heat(gas not electric)and now the property owner wants to change to electric baseboard heat but the radiator heat works great for all tenants.how much work and how big of a job is it for workers to come into my apt and change the gas heat radiators to electric baseboard heat.does it take a long time?do they rip out the radiators from my floors?and how long would it take to do it.5radiators total in my apt.which heat is more expensive?& If we don't have storm windows & apt is extremely drafty all around that would make the electric bill way higher right?do they install thermostat in our apt to control heat bc I've never had electric heat or baseboard heat.i just turn the knob on the radiators.if you could answer any of these it would greatly appreciate it.thanks for your informational videos

@PEXUniverse 3 года назад

Hi Ashley! In terms of replacing each unit, we'd expect a licensed professional go get the job done around 3 hrs. So setting up your apt, given that there are 5 and quite a few more tenants a few day if not about a week to get the job done. Now an electric baseboard, presents a few challenges. While electric baseboards are said to be easier and more efficient, the cost of running one is based of how often you interact with your thermostat. The best bet is allowing them to constant, instead of being turned on and off if it is able to recognize when to cool and heat the room on it's own.

@Threezy3pac 3 года назад

@@PEXUniverse 1st of all thank you soon very much for responding to me,very few people I notice respond to people it's greatly appreciated.2nd do most electric baseboards has the controllers on the baseboards or on the wall controllers? & I took some pictures of the baseboards that they will be using the brands are Cadet Heat, DC Simplex & Farenheat.how are those brands?again thank you for your time

@PEXUniverse 3 года назад

@@Threezy3pac No worries! Those are pretty good. More than likely you will have a wall mounted control unit. Some even have wireless remotes and can be activate using an app in your phone.

@Threezy3pac 3 года назад

@@PEXUniverse Thank you very much.

@user-xxxxxn 2 года назад

you have 2 systems in one with the iron cast..... it has also convection heat.. it's 50/50.

@bluecavemen 4 года назад

I live in Dallas area. Where can I find a radiator tech to install this for me??

@PEXUniverse 4 года назад

It will be best for you to call around and ask who has experience working on the style of radiator you have, we found a link with a few boiler/heating specialist over in Dallas. Hope this helps! www.homeadvisor.com/tloc/Dallas-TX/Boiler-or-Radiator-Heating-System-Repair-or-Service/

@stealhty1 4 года назад

Thank you,I thought base boards was the up grade of Radiators,Just purchase a pipe wrench,work the valve back and forth until it opens free also purge air out ,,now it work like a charm

@PEXUniverse 4 года назад

stealhty1, glad we could help!

@user-xxxxxn 2 года назад

there are also plate radiators with convection between the plates... this is common in europe for over 90 years.

@wayneblay9532 2 года назад

what are plate radiators?

@jmad318 2 года назад

My house has both cast iron radiators, (kitchen and living room) and cast iron radiators, (every room except for the living room). Keeps the house nice and cozy

@cool1800lemonlaw Год назад

My house has both radiators and baseboard heaters

@joshuasmith1215 3 года назад

I don't understand the difference between the baseboard and the radiator. They both have heated liquid flowing through them. How is one heating objects via radiation but the baseboard isn't? Is that because the radiator has more thermal mass so it's pushing off more energy to be picked up by the objects in the room?

@TerminalSaint 3 года назад

The difference is due to the materials. Cast iron has relatively high emissivity, i.e. it more readily expels heat as IR than the aluminum fins of a baseboard heater.

@nymeria1160 2 года назад

Think about that heavy cast iron sitting on the stove over a open flame and how long it would take to cool off when you turn off the flame vs the thinner metal baseboard material under the same conditions.

@walterbrunswick 2 года назад

This guy is giving incorrect information... radiators DO heat the air... He was mistakenly talking about infrared heaters smh

@walterbrunswick 2 года назад

@@TerminalSaint wrong

@walterbrunswick 2 года назад

@@nymeria1160 again, wrong

@javirodify 2 года назад

:41 hot air enters??

@MrSohn2000 3 года назад

Not only Baseboards look cheap but they are the ugliest option to increase your home value.

@howardskeivys4184 Год назад

Actually, radiators also warm the air around them. That warmed, less dense air, rises and is also replaced by cooler air. This is convection. So, ‘radiators convect and radiate. The ratio of radiated to convected heat is dependant upon the design of the heater, but is typically 30% radiation and 70% convection! All electric heaters produce equal power to heat ratios. A 1500 watt fan assisted heater produces an identical amount of heat as a 1500 watt convection or radiant heater. Their efficiency comes down to the way they distribute that heat into the room. Yes, it is true that convector heaters heat the air in the room, whilst radiant heaters heat objects in the room. But that air that has been warmed by a convector heater will after time warm the objects and people in the room. Much like a convection oven cooks the food with in it. Conversely, a radiant heater will heat objects and people in a room. Given time, those objects and people will warm the air in the room. So, given time a status quo will be achieved. In my humble opinion, baring in mind that I’m not an expert or a heating proffessional, convector heaters are more suited to heating a room rapidly, whilst radiant heaters are better suited to maintaining a room at a constant temperature. Fan heaters will heat a room more rapidly than a convector heater and fan heaters are generally cheaper to purchase than convector heaters. The only issue is they can be noisy and do tend to dry out the environment. If you’re trying to keep warm, whilst reducing energy consumption, remember it is easier to keep a person warm than it is to keep your room warm. Put on multi layers of clothing. Snuggle up to a hot water bottle, your partner, someone else’s partner, your children and dog. If you still feel cold? Drink a bottle of rum, brandy or whisky. It’s unlikely to make you feel any warmer, but you won’t care!

@iranjackheelson 2 года назад

My main issue with convection heat is its dryness... is there a way to overcome this?

@benwolf5264 2 года назад

humidifier or throw some water on your convection heaters to make some steam lol

@andreaf5765 2 года назад

My whole house is radiators and it's extremely dry

@iranjackheelson 2 года назад

@@andreaf5765 no steam?

@kinokind293 Месяц назад

As with the other video from this source, it is about half wrong. First, forced air shouldn't be lumped in with baseboards or radiators, as they are almost unrelated. First, cast iron radiators heat mostly by convection, heating the air around them which circulates (convectively) through the room. Depending on specifics, about 80% of the heat from a cast iron radiator is convective, the remainder is radiated infrared: the heat that you feel if you hold your open hand facing the radiator (or a fire). Fin-tube convectors, of the type he shows, do almost all of their heating by convection. There is some slight radiation, but the hot tubing is isolated from the outside by air gaps. There are also cast iron baseboards, which he does not mention, which are midway between. The biggest difference is that a cast iron radiator contains quite a mass of cast iron, which, once heated, retains its heat even when the steam or hot water is off. This results in slower diffusion of heat throughout the room and longer intervals between operation of the boiler. Thus, the temperature remain more even. Fin-tube baseboard convectors, on the other hand, have virtually no thermal inertia and will go cold almost as soon as the boiler shuts off. For this reason you should never use fin-tube and cast iron in the same installation, since the fin-tube cools instantly while the cast iron remains hot. This means the room with fin-tube will be cold while the room with cast iron remains warm. Where do you put the thermostat? If you put it in the fin-tube room, the boiler will run more often than if you put it in the cast iron room, but then the fin-tube room will be fine but the cast iron room too warm. If you put it by the cast iron, then the fin-tube room will be cold. Don't do it. Forced air is neither convective nor radiative, which is why it shouldn't even be included in this discussion. A wood stove is more similar to radiators and baseboards than forced air is.

@Spazticspaz 4 года назад

I thought baseboard was a cheaper option tho

@unnamedxx 2 года назад

Nah. They are made out aluminum so they are really cheap to make vs the cast iron radiators which is a far more expensive material.

@mickobrien3156 Год назад

Forced Air heating SUCKS. They should be called dandruff makers. They dry your skin out faster than you can slather on moisturizer. I never had dandruff in my entire life. Just dodged that one. But.... I lived with forced air for a while and.... wtf! My usually lush healthy scalp was converted into a snow machine. I was not pleased. Ha! I had them rip the whole crappy cheap system out and install proper CAST IRON good old-fashioned radiators. Because to date.... there is no better and more comfortable and natural-feeling way to heat a home. Infrared heaters are interesting for outdoor heat because they don't heat via conduction or convection but radiation. They don't heat air, but objects directly in line-of-sight of the infrared light. But indoors.... they just aren't terribly effective. It's like you can be in the shade in your own home with an infrared heater. It's disorienting and bizarre. Because if you round a corner or if something is blocking your direct line-of-sight, instantly you're 30-degrees cooler. It's just bizarre. Infrared is great for patios. They mimic the Sun. Literally. They are the closest heating system to the Sun. Direct rays. However... this is about indoor heating and baseboard is cheap and passable. But ideally, always, ALWAYS opt for cast iron radiators if you can afford it. You will thank me. And with forced air, it's a doozy because they're noisy, dusty, they inevitably get coated in gunk and dust and crud because there's moving air currents and a whole network of ducts and tubes and vents and ports. It's not even cheap, and it sucks. And you have to also account for needing Head & Shoulders. Ha! This tutorial should be simple: Get cast iron radiators if possible. Otherwise get baseboard. The end. Seriously, forced air fucking stinks!!!! Sorry that was a long post but I believe it will help someone. Because I'm not biased or some paid shill here to push some brand for commission or endorsement. It's just one schmuck's opinion. Consider it, though. Forced Air Heating is S. H. I. T. !

@annakon8423 Год назад

@Mick Obrien I also didn't like this system. You don't have an air humidifier installed in your system?. I lived in such a house for 12 years and we always set this indicator as high as possible. It was mounted downstairs by the system and the water was connected from the line. I think that this heat, which is inflatable, would be better saved in the use of cast iron radiators. Water heats the radiators and they are warm for the next hour even after turning off the thermostat. I just didn't like the fact that sometimes the water dripped from the tube straight onto the boiler and one time it went out. Inside, a porcelain ignitor is screwed into the boiler, which ignites the flame. It went out because the water was dripping there. My husband and a friend electrician did not know why the heating went out. I was just looking on the internet and I found an ignitor that from time to time he gets off. Ours went out from the dripping water. As you know, the heating always breaks down in winter, and it was necessary to repair immediately. My husband searched several stores for this part and drove at night to the store open 24/7.One costs over $100. There is no big problem with the installation, just be careful not to touch this porcelain with your hands, so as not to get dirty and can quickly cracks. Since then, I have always checked this tube from moisturizing. I substituted aluminum plates to drip water on it. There was no other way to stop dripping. I often cleaned the filter in the container and it still dripped down. In my previous house we had cast iron heaters and baseboards. It was always cold in my bedroom, where there were baseboards. I always opened the door to the bathroom where it was cast iron and it was very warm. Homeowners often change to new ones without thinking at all how they will work. My tenant on the upper floor had such large cast iron, which always burned hot. There is only one problem with moving it when you renovate the floor because it is very, very, very heavy. That's all you do, let's say, once every twenty years.

@mickobrien3156 Год назад

@@annakon8423 I never liked humidifiers. I always feel it's just a spreader of bacteria. Unless every day you clean every conceivable nook and cranny... I just find them to be kind of gross. I prefer to fix my home's climate situation so it's not excessively dry to begin with. Sure, winter months are naturally dry, because cold air doesn't hold nearly as much moisture as warmer air. But living on the East Coast (NYC), it's never really too dry. If I lived in, say, Las Vegas or Phoenix, perhaps I'd want a humidifier. But it's not needed where I am. As far as technical skills... If something can't be fixed with tape, a screwdriver, or maybe a hammer, then I'm outta luck. I just wasn't born mechanically inclined. My mom was. She could fix anything. Me and my dad, though... we can't fix squat. It's too bad. Being handy is a great skill.

@paulbk7810 5 месяцев назад

clue-less!

@brax0789 3 года назад

So radiators are ugly, but theyre better?

@James-jx3ro 3 года назад

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but yes, they do!

@MbisonBalrog 4 года назад

The whole point is to heat the air. If the heat travels to colder spots faster, then is doing a better job. Heating up an object does nothing unless I literally am touching the object or staying near it all the time. If an object radiates so much heat it can heat whole room quickly, and keep warm when doors open is likely way too hot especially nearer the object.

@pcno2832 4 года назад

A room full of warm objects will feel comfortable, despite a cooler air temperature. And cold object can suck the heat out of your body even if the air is warm.

@walterbrunswick 2 года назад

This guy is giving incorrect information... radiators DO heat the air... He was mistakenly talking about infrared heaters smh

@vbrh01 2 года назад

@@walterbrunswick You can shake your head all you want and get nitpick with semantics, but the deal is that cast iron radiators put off heat long after the water has stopped circulating. Baseboard, not so much. My house has both and the baseboard rooms are always cold. The ones with radiators are toasty. Ironically, the ones with baseboard are newer additions built with modern material and insulated. Radiator heated rooms...plaster walls, no insulation....roasty toasty. Go figure.

@fmartin59 2 года назад

@@vbrh01 yeah a lot of modern design choices are bad.

@simmojosh71 3 года назад

When the fuck is that radiator from looks like something from the early 20th century lol

@jessmelgar219 5 лет назад

Radiators are mostly an issue in places I’ve been because they are placed in the worst places for decorating. Which is why they are less efficient for space.

@brianellsworth4767 4 года назад

From the point of view of a decorator vs. comfort and function is an argument I have with home improvement contractors all the time.

@James-jx3ro 3 года назад

@@brianellsworth4767 An argument that's won later, AFTER it's been replaced and realizing that "it doesn't heat the same way anymore!" Enjoy your pretty!

@brianellsworth4767 3 года назад

@@James-jx3ro I believe in function over esthetics. The contractors want it pretty so they can collect money. I want it to function so I don't have headaches trying to make it work.

@James-jx3ro 3 года назад

@@brianellsworth4767 I agree, 100%

@brianellsworth4767 3 года назад

Radiators are costly and only found in old Victorian homes. New installations seldom use them unless they want to leave the historical look in a renovation.

@internalinjectiontrulyhere6182 2 года назад

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@AndrewKidd14145 2 года назад

U ok

@vickynoname9860 2 месяца назад

What professionals remove, power coat and reinstall radiators? I am about to spend 30k for an HVAC if I dont find someone to paint these ugly radiators.