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Detroit 4-53T Swapped Super Duty (How to communicate with PCM/TCM) 

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Here's the video of the sensors I kept from the 6.4 to make the PCM/TCM communicate with the cab and 5R110.

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@paul2466
@paul2466 6 месяцев назад
You said something in the last few seconds that is golden, “ I plan to keep this rig 30 years” it’s a shame the manufacturers don’t think that way when they sell a person a truck for 80-100k US. You have done really nice work and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us all.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, I stopped following the new truck market a couple of years ago because they've just gone crazy with the prices. I can't see how anyone can afford them now? I love the look of them, but would never buy one.:)
@Superduty_59
@Superduty_59 6 месяцев назад
Planned obsolescence! If your old truck lasts they can't sell you a new one. Sad
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
@@Superduty_59 Very true.:)
@user-ff5ge7hx2c
@user-ff5ge7hx2c Месяц назад
That won't happen, ridiculous
@turbogrin
@turbogrin 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your conversion experience! I paid $500 for my 2000 ford Extended cab super duty with a BAD 5.4L I'm in the middle of putting a rebuilt P Pumped cummins engine with a NV4500! I rebuilt my 5spd with an adapter to mate the 273 T Case! I bought a Hillsboro flat bed cause there was no bed on the short bed frame and I should have it done when the weather starts getting better here in Western Montana as I'm working on it outside!
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Awesome, great truck and even better with the P Pumped Cummins.:) I recently drove a 2008 F450 P Pumped Fummins with around 325HP and that was sweet.:) You're going to love it.:)
@benq.mechanical
@benq.mechanical 6 месяцев назад
Great details. Awesome you're willing to share so much!
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching!.:)
@ExCELGamingandMods
@ExCELGamingandMods 6 месяцев назад
I love builds like this and would like to do my own Cummins swap in a super duty some day so I watch a lot of videos about them. One thing I have never seen from anyone else's project is (and some of them did very good work) the ability to successfully make the PCM happy enough to not have a permanent check engine light. I figured if I did one of these that it would just be something I would have to deal with but you must have done everything right.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
I used HPTuners to tune the PCM so it doesn't trigger the check engine light. With Forscan and HPTuners you can tune the PCM/TCM so it works like factory.:)
@bennygibbons5417
@bennygibbons5417 6 месяцев назад
This is so interesting. Thanks for sharing. I have a couple newer powerstrokes and I'd agree, they finally got them dialed in. I think you could get a pretty penny for that excursion if you did the detroit swap. Good job.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, love the Excursion.:)
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 5 месяцев назад
Really great video 👍 thanks for making it. I bought 4 Super duty crew cab trucks from 99 to 05 very cheap that don't run or drive but are complete and I am in the process of putting a 12 valve in one and a 4bt in one that came with a standard trans. A running 4-53T is pricey around here as a lot of oilfield equipment uses them and because hardly anyone rebuilds them correctly and the one place that does it right cost so much you could buy 2 or 3 used Cummins 12 valve engines for what it cost to pay for that rebuilt 4-53T. If I can still work hard enough when I'm past 70 maybe I can play with one then. Your truck came out perfectly. Would like to see the face of the Ford dealers service manager if you dropped it off for an oil change HAHAHAHAHA.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 5 месяцев назад
Thanks, I did run the truck into Ford to get new snow tires on rims I had. Had to drive through the service bays to drop off the rims. Had a crew of techs looking over the strange sounding F350. They really liked it.:)
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 5 месяцев назад
@@detroitgarage9430 back in 1993 I needed a van capable of flat towing a 3200 lbs car over mountains as high as 11,000 feet. So I put a 500 inch Cadillac engine in a long Chevy van. I was racing in the Carrera Panamericana (Mexican Road Race). Just for fun I took it by the place who rebuilt the engine and told them I had extensive problems putting the engine they rebuilt back in the vehicle. Their operation was the largest local engine remanufacturer in the area and I had personally installed many engines from them for customers. So the manager was worried I was unhappy and came out to look at the van HAHAHAHAHA. He had everyone from the shop out there looking at it lol. It was a failure however. Cadillac engines have siamesed bores and the more I pushed the pedal down going up mountains the higher the temp gauge went. I should have stuck to my guns and used a 454 Chevy but the guy bankrolling the operation said I was just trying to put in a racing engine I could take out later and the Cadillac was cheaper. It did it's job and worked well on everything but long uphill grades. However getting passed by a Mexican bus going up a mountain really griped me. They had exhaust cut outs on those mountain busses and that 8-71T was absolutely SCREAMING when it passed me !!! HAHAHAHAHA
@jimkillen1065
@jimkillen1065 6 месяцев назад
I always thought the Ford truck is very well made .. i like the interior as well ..Not a fan of some of there engines . I perfer old like me p pump cummins . Those Detroit engines run good when turbo charged . I just want a engine that is reliable and does not leak everywhere.. i got a taste of dealing with sound when i did a g56 conversion on my old 95 4x4. I used some kill matt in the floors under the carpet .....i watched a shop do a conversion on the front axle to coil springs on the Ford . i watched your video and i wondered how you got the dash and transmission to communicate and work properly..Thanks for the video
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
The Cummins Ppumped engine is pretty much an all around winner and makes a great swap for this truck.:) I drove an 08 Fummins F450 with the same 5R110 and it was nice, at around 325HP.:)
@strokedmule3838
@strokedmule3838 6 месяцев назад
Very informative, I think this is one of the coolest builds I’ve seen.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Thanks.:)
@egancraneriggingservicesin9142
@egancraneriggingservicesin9142 6 месяцев назад
I found your video on transmission adapting good job
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.:)
@grumpasmirf
@grumpasmirf 6 месяцев назад
That's about it folks ;0) time intensive...😂 Detroit garage! One of a kind.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
:)
@rodneymiddleton9624
@rodneymiddleton9624 6 месяцев назад
I was really curious about how you kept the PCM and transmission working. Thanks!
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 6 месяцев назад
I get doing a transplant but doing a 4-53is just crazy, i did my apprenticeship on these detroits but i could think of a half dozen better options
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Not for everyone, but I like them.:) The 4-53T is saving me $5000 a year in fuel savings and pays for itself every year.:)
@TheFarmersLife
@TheFarmersLife 6 месяцев назад
@@detroitgarage9430plus I’ll bet you got smarter and you have something unique you did yourself.
@justnsaliga8518
@justnsaliga8518 6 месяцев назад
thank you for making this video.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
You're welcome.
@jamestregler1584
@jamestregler1584 6 месяцев назад
Thanks from old New Orleans 😇
@drewmurray2583
@drewmurray2583 6 месяцев назад
awesome! I would hire you in a heartbeat
@jameswest3021
@jameswest3021 6 месяцев назад
Got to beat the 6.0 I wanted a 6v53 and later saw a Chevy dually with that engine. Looked just as good as a new duramax to me
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Very true, the best I can do and keep this engine reliable and smoke free is 280HP. I do have a 6V53 in the shop, so maybe someday I'll see 400HP.:) I have a few more swaps to do before I consider a 6V53.:) For giggles I test fit the 6V53 and it fit really well.:) Here's the video.:) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FotKRMyf4TQ.html
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
Awesome thanks for the video.
@poppasgarage484
@poppasgarage484 6 месяцев назад
Awesome build! Would like to hear more about how you did the sound deadening. I have a 24 valve in mine and that’s the biggest complaint I have is the noise. Thanks
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Really easy, can't remember the size a sheet roll I used, but measure the fire wall and then order it off Ebay.:) I use 1/16" thickness. Take off the oem material, then bond the lead sheet to the fire wall. I used a product called No more nails. After that I put the oem material back on over the lead sheet.:) I'll see if I can find a video of the fire wall. Used a ball pean hammer and lightly tapped around to form the lead.
@poppasgarage484
@poppasgarage484 6 месяцев назад
@@detroitgarage9430 thanks
@jbird21122
@jbird21122 6 месяцев назад
Great video thank you
@t1259sw
@t1259sw 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing.
@EliAngwin
@EliAngwin 6 месяцев назад
I’d love to do a 1st gen expedition diesel swap with a 5/6 speed manual transmission
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
That would be very nice.:)
@toddstanley7804
@toddstanley7804 6 месяцев назад
Come to Ontario, they want 10k plus for a rusted out 20 year super duty
@grumpasmirf
@grumpasmirf 6 месяцев назад
Yes they look horrible. I was just in SoCal and couldn't get over the number of nice 6.0's down there.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Lol, that's nasty.:)
@allancrow134
@allancrow134 6 месяцев назад
My brother was all excited because he got a digital instrument display for his big block gas pot that is in his Gillnetter. I go and check it out and says to me, "I guess you don't have a sensor/diagnostic computer in your Detriot Diesel do you?" I said, "No it was made in 1972". Then I was thinking the guy on Detroit Garage has the digital setup, I wonder how he did it? The quest ends there. :)
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Lol, I love that edge tuner.:) Just bought an expansion cable to add airbox pressure and fuel/veg temp.:)
@allancrow134
@allancrow134 6 месяцев назад
I'll just rely on my analog gauges. I was going to ask you how you did it, then you made this video. :)@@detroitgarage9430
@davidfleishman2275
@davidfleishman2275 6 месяцев назад
Great video.There is a RU-vid video on Chevy 2500 with a 453t in it.For the tach the fellow got a crank tone ring,6.0l,and mounted it on the front of the crank.He used an interface unit for the trans.Also kept as many OEM sensors.I gather a 353 in a half ton pick up would work?
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Nice, I think I know the truck you're talking about. He did an awesome swap.:) Yes a 353 in a 1/2 ton would be a great swap. I'd consider a turbo model at 130HP
@tcmtech7515
@tcmtech7515 6 месяцев назад
*THANK YOU!* 🥳
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
You’re welcome 😊
@egancraneriggingservicesin9142
@egancraneriggingservicesin9142 6 месяцев назад
Thats awesome build, can you share on how you adapted the engine to the transmision? I have a 1967 453 with a clark 5 speed going into a 1984 c30 it will be easy compared to what you did, impressive work
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Awesome, yes anytime you have to machine parts to make a trans work behind an engine it makes for a lot of work.:) Here's a video of the 5R110 and the adapters I made for it.:) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7I_6tH4UOrY.html
@snoman003
@snoman003 6 месяцев назад
" I plan to keep this rig 30 years” Well, given that the Detroit is at least 30+ years old, I suspect that a properly rebuilt Detroit, in light duty use, will last at least another 30 years. Teach the grandkids well...
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Very true.:)
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 6 месяцев назад
👍
@Powerstroke431
@Powerstroke431 6 месяцев назад
Pfffffft guys everywhere still expecting 15 grand for their 6.4 rigs with blown motors lol 😂
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Wow, that's crazy.:)
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
You put the worst engine with the best chassis and the best transmission!
@n20prostock97
@n20prostock97 6 месяцев назад
No, the worst engine was the one he took out of the truck
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
@@n20prostock97 two strokes are under junk
@n20prostock97
@n20prostock97 6 месяцев назад
Why is that? You seem to be the expert on all things diesel, explain your position please.
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
@@n20prostock97 short answer, 1930's technology. They are junk because they have no power, extremely loud (try to drive a few hours with one), require ashless 40 wt oil that's either not available or expensive, have zero bottom end power, can and do run away often, nobody can work on them anymore, do not like to idle, questionable design decisions (let's put a through hole in the head to mount a fuel filter and expect it not to leak), hard starting in winter, poor fuel economy (depending on service), smoke a ton, often requires a v block and 8-12 cyl to have power in the range of engines from the 80's, hard to work on v blocks, leak oil around a gallon per 8 hours, air box drains leak a lot of oil, 92 series rods are too small, there is many more this is just on top of my head. They will run for a long time, manufactured from 1931-1995, cheap, sound great for the first 5 minutes, fun to tinker with. Good luck selling them my last one took me nearly 2 years.
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
@@n20prostock97 ohh yeah I forgot, if you lug them up a hill you will put a hole in the piston.
@rogerkennedy9732
@rogerkennedy9732 6 месяцев назад
Why not go with like a holy pro dash for all your gauges and speedometer seems to me that be a lot easier then make a custom harness for the ac and heater radio other stuff like that
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
I wanted to keep the dash stock and everything function the way it was from the factory. I'll be doing another swap/build in a 1947 Diamond T and will be making my own harness for that. Of course no PCM/TCM.:)
@Flipping_Assets
@Flipping_Assets 6 месяцев назад
How long did it take you to complete this truck start to finish?
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
It took me about a year to complete.:)
@johnw4590
@johnw4590 6 месяцев назад
Just wondering..doesn't it turn the check engine light on due to all the pcm outputs being diabled. Injectors , VGT, EGR.. etc.
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Yes, as well as the wrench light. I'm able to tune the PCM with HPTuners to disable the missing inputs that you've mentioned so it works like factory. The PCM/TCM are fully functional and code free.
@pulsenpal7882
@pulsenpal7882 6 месяцев назад
can you get any usable information from your OBD II port ?
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Yes, all the data to the edge is from OBD II port. I also use the OBD II port for tuning the pcm and tcm as well as getting any codes that come up. PCM is tuned emissions ready and code free.:)
@davidetroitdieselnaveia8937
@davidetroitdieselnaveia8937 6 месяцев назад
@diesellivesmatter
@diesellivesmatter 6 месяцев назад
If your truck is a 4x4 turbo diesel, you need a good automatic.
@bulkchart3239
@bulkchart3239 6 месяцев назад
don't detroits vibrate a lot compared to other diesels?
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
No, super smooth engines.:)
@bulkchart3239
@bulkchart3239 6 месяцев назад
@@detroitgarage9430 for real?
@mikealalexander6053
@mikealalexander6053 6 месяцев назад
would a 6v71 fit?
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
No, way too large and too heavy.:)
@rogerkennedy9732
@rogerkennedy9732 6 месяцев назад
Why did you keep the pcm and all the censors for why not do away with all the complicated bs
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
Without the PCM nothing works.:) Transmission, gauge cluster, alternators, fan, AC to name a few. You'd have to rewire and regauge the truck, easier to keep the PCM/TCM.:)
@rogerkennedy9732
@rogerkennedy9732 6 месяцев назад
I would love to pick your brain I have two manual transmission out of a ford and been wanting to do this if there is some how we could communicate @DetroitGarage
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 6 месяцев назад
You can email me@ emerald310@gmail.com
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