DEVASTATING News for NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle! 😮 

It a double whammy. Putting a team together with all the tour costs involved + funding of 1-2 million dollars per season is one thing.. THEN getting Beat every weekend by a massive company that has all the resources in the world is another. Its unreal what MSR has accomplished all these years . Terry Vance is asking what can be done to fix the class. What a joke...He knows exactly what's been going on .

V&H have been influencing the NHRA since the "Dragbike!" era. They win by changing the rules to fit them ONLY. I stopped when the rules made it 3 to 6 times as expensive to race.

When NHRA bent over to let Harleys in, they started ridiculous equivalence formulas. Looks like someone got beat at their own game.

Modern day drag racing in general sucks.....glad I grew up in the era I did to witness drag racing in the 60's thru 70's.....rather go to nostalgic events and to apoint relive some of the better era including the Steve Gibbs "Nitro Rivival" event every year

I give Matt Smith props, He has a passion to race. He takes it all in stride and makes changes to combat the monopoly. My Hat s off to you Matt Smith

Vance & Hines are doing great at destroying the very class they want soo badly to be the big shot in. Any record that Gaige reaches is tainted and bs, even just comparing him to Bob Glidden is laughable

Record needs to have an asterisk next to it. NHRA was bribed by Vance and Hines to fix the rule. Pro Stock motorcycle class is trash now

@5:20 will not be comparable in any way shape or form, Bob Glidden did not go about creating monopolies on parts and pieces he gained his win streak from working his ass off and honest driving competition.

Its not a CAR,,,,,,...... HE'S NOT BREAKING BOB GLIDDEN'S ANYTHING

Old school short track solution. Claimer rule on the motor. Anyone who makes the semis can claim the winners motor for a fee.

Pay $12,500 to ride a bike that's being setup two tenths slower than there favorite rider! I'D PASS ON IT ALSO😲

Sadly most sports are fixed & this looks & smells like fix.

The way to fix the class is for all the teams tell V&H, and NHRA they are not going to another race until V&H produces the EXACT same parts for EVERYONE.

Glidden was a class act. Had the pleasure of talking with him on several occasions. Not many guys like him left.

Man I sure do miss Dave Shultz when watching this.

NHRA = rigged racing

Why would you buy your equipment from your rival. Think they just might have a little conflict of interest?

Herrera may have broken the record, but it is a tainted record

These days, my racing budget is my phone bill watching on here.

Is the NHRA being secretly run by nerds that don't know anything????

Comparing anybody to Mr.Bob Glidden is a JOKE ! For anybody that that witnessed his greatness, seeing him compared to a cycle rider (not a driver) makes one hate the entire two wheel category. Does Terry Vances million dollar donation to a NHRA charity a few years ago have anything to do with any of this B.S. !! Share your thoughts.

I quit watching several years ago because the fix was in. #neveragain.

no comparison between gauge and Glidden

Racing is Super Expensive and prostock bikes don’t attract sponsorship that’s the side no one talks about . The teams are probably running out of money and dropping out as a result. You want to compete V&H bikes, you need a big budget . There’s no value in prostock motorcycle racing if we are being honest and only a labor of love!

If it would have been Bob Glidden he would have been penalized after his first qualifying run.

HE'S NO BOB GLIDEN.

This has been happening for a long time I'm surprised they're just now doing something about it honestly I would have dropped out a long time ago if I were the other competitors seen how I wasn't gaining any ground when we're supposed to have the same equipment and the guy riding the Vincent Hines by got to feel stupid or I mean has no sense of sportsmanship if he's willing to cheat and just keep winning and not care as long as he's getting a paycheck

Historical NHRA BS. Come on Jack on that record is S show. Yes, NHRA keeps crying on decline sales.

NHRA is fine with the class going away

Bring back funny bike

Make Pro-Stock bike a clamer class. If V&H had a few bikes clamed, they would straighten up.

As a lifelong rider, racer whos traveled all around , sampled rare cuisine, threw up...slept in castles. If only i could have saved all that foreword to the 2020s. Racing was HARD! There were almost NO speed shops or performance lines. We had to machine our own engine cases, and built up our own 4 v heads, and straight cut no dog gearsets... Or buy used Yoshimura and pre Mugan sand castings from some overseas team and rebuild for mountains of cash. My 1978ish honda CB750 i built 1984 to a 903cc Yoshi clone was literally only about 10% original left. Even the frame was custom. the crank was Yoshi billet, rods, pins Yoshi Ti. Heads yoshi cylinders, custom from me.And a crapton of old F1 worn out parts from bosses stash. mechanical methanol system from//something F1 or hillclimb. It literally took me what would have been 40-50 thousand in parts and after hours machining time i spent to build that bike. And Now Any Kawi H bike can walk away bone stock... I still miss that cough and bark as you wacked the throttle and go from 1%power to 95% in the mearest throttle blip lol. CA, ca ca ca..pings rev limit ...KA Cough...moments hesitation..HAAAWWWHHOOOOSHHH!!@! with fricken authority. NO in between EVER LOL> hang on bub!!

Saving the class might be gone.

Bob Glidden was winning and innovating when he was winning like that . V&H has been Hoarding championships for 3 decade's lol. It took long enough for guys to say no more not on our dime !

And when Harley came in to the sport who was the dominant bike's Vance and Hines.

nhra has become bullshit

I used to be interested in PSM, but not in the last couple of years. The class isn't much of a class anymore.

politics in racing for monetary gain.... as a business strategy it's incredibly smart...as a fan it's meh, but there are plenty of other, more interesting and just as fast bikes to watch

Gauge Herrero in Vansen, Hines and NHRANHRA is cheating for high. They are showing very much favoritism and if they don’t change the rules and fix the problem there’s not gonna be no more stop motorcycle racing people are gonna quit coming. They’re not gonna bring their bikes out because, too much nhra favorite so do you wanna keep motorcycle wake up in the early you’re about to lose a class

This is what happens when you allow a monopoly on engine components. Money can buy success

While everybody else is sucking up to them and kissing their ring I can't help but remember one of the nicest guys I ever met Rodger Mcphail. Ask anybody old enough about him and V&H

The amount of money it takes to field a prostock mc is a bunch. I don't blame any rider that doesn't show up, who wants to go to a race knowing they can't win. NHRA is all about the $, and they are very friendly with the Vance & Hines boys.

Byron Hines is the best Engine builder ever. Nick name The Wizard. I have watched VH for years. The top fuel Suzuki was the one that that was a changer of the guard. People need to research and see how the motorcycle drag racing is from the commitment of Vance and Hines. Harley Davidson owes them for their success also.

Since the video that you exposed the cheating and the team was a douche to you, I stopped watching CycleDrag much. Not that it's your fault, but you cover these races and I don't want to watch cheaters win. I watch the other content, but there isn't much of that.

LoL, I get a kick out of that. A typical July, Aug, Sept day! down here in SE Va. when its 105 then rains for 15 or 20 minutes it cools down all right. Now its 103 and 105% humidity!

The only way too save the class is too open up the class ok it’s not hard too understand allow others to create parts to help the class evolve

Yoshimura needs to get into the game. Yoshi is probably the only company that could actually give Vance and Hines some trouble when it comes to motorcycles anyways. I rode for a long time and was more a fan of sportbike racing and in that category you had V&H, Yoshi, Muzzy, V&H has a monoploy on the class similar to the cars with being strictly Chevy Camaro bodies, computer controlled EFI, technology based.

PSM has been bad for years. Between lack of personality and dominance of 1 team, it’s boring.

Who cares about this pro stock bike racing anymore, would you like to bet who wins next time ?

There must be a reason that Honda, Kawasaki, or Yamaha field bikes in this sport. They used too..... especially Kawasaki. They are huge companies with deep pockets.... But if class is rigged between two brands..... why bother.

It amazes me how these people cry about Vance & Hines when they were losing on them Harleys nobody tried to help them they were getting their ass kicked but when they started winning everybody started complaining then they go back to the jet bikes and you guys are getting your asses kicked again and yes they do have the best rider in the class that is no no doubt the guys like a machine put them guys are supposed to be able to tune them bikes and people just going to have to catch up

They messed up pro stock motorcycle about 20 years ago when the Suzukis were dominating the cycle scene and beating the Harleys so they handicapped the Japanese bikes limiting them to carbs and horsepower.

I wonder if Jack has ever raced his bike.

I don't understand why everybody is making such a big deal about it look back in the day when Vance & Hines went to v-twins Suzuki's wasn't even nowhere in the category now Vance & Hines with the Suzuki's now look where the V twins are since day one Vance & Hines have had their hand and everybody's pocket and everybody's pockets it just shows you NHRA is favoritism Vance & Hines

Thanks for bringing that up I will no longer watch it I did not know it was all fixed racing.

This class has sucked for years, street bikes with no training wheels are much more fun to watch!😊

I grew up at Orlando Speedworld and started racing drag bikes around 1985. Jon Meyers was one of the people that i asked advice from. Many Car drivers were friends but the bike guys always helped me as a kid. Kelly McDaniel is one that i still talk to today. Check out his story. Thanks

You said a mouth full there vance&hines is the only one that can save the class but to be the best beat the best just what you said at the beginning of show 95% of the bikes has been touched by vance&hines would you tell the other team your favorite play vance&hines is the best and every body must just face it

I'm 63. I've been a Drag Racing fan since I was FIVE! Think...Garlits, & Clayton Harris. Drag Bikes (as a Motorcycle Rider for 44 years) Just LIT ME UP!! All that said, NHRA has GOT to do something to make Pro Stock REAL again, & Vance & Hines is NOT playing fair. They've got the market cornered, they've got a monopoly on parts, equipment, & Nobody else can compete. And this AIN'T like back in th' day, when it was WINSTON/NHRA DRAG RACING. Audiences are dwindling, PARTICIPANTS are dwindling...NHRA is Killing ITSELF with their own bullshit. DON'T go th' way of the French family with NASCAR...FIX IT ASSHOLES!!!

No Question about the Incredible Talent that Herrera has . But it's not fair at all. Vance and Hines are destroying pro stock bike. If V&H provided the same engines to All the league it would be fair for me. So All Suzuki Drivers have the same gear so the little performance tricks of the individual teams would make the difference. But how come NHRA allows that? Another thing, NHRA should consider a certain type of engine for the class for next season. It's My humble comment but I know that is not easy because of the brand's individual engineering I think I would be cool but the same engine type for all bikes would be fair

I’m surprised NHRA didn’t step in and require carbs and $5000 worth of spec air box To Save The Class.They don’t know why but just know they will.😊😊 Nothing brings our racers like adding another gate keep.

If I was V&H, and I leased equipment, I would tune the equipment the same way as your “main” bike. Why? Because technically if the equipment you lease wins, it’s on a V&H bike. You still “win.” Your name is still out there. “I’d like to thank Vance and Hines for giving me the equipment to get the job done!” Good for business in my eyes. You won’t have the entire division pointing a double shotgun at you like they do now. V&H may not care, but if they keep it up, there may not be a division at all anymore.

NHRA needs to step in they need to make a minimum weight mandate for ALL TEAMS & RIDERS and they also need to make ONE ENGINE TYPE because you can't have one team destroying the class .

It's not an achievement, they haven't run a single full field all season. You can't claim a consecutive record when there's no competition. This is BS and disrespectful to Bob Glidden and the overall sport. NHRA tracks are dropping like flies. "Outlaw" racing is on the rise, which is the reason NHRA was founded in the first place. Wally Parks would hate what NHRA has become.

Matt smith is the only one who has enough leverage to make a change. The class cannot survive without Matt Smith involved. He needs to boycott with all five bikes, NHRA will be forced to make some changes.

Add a claiming rule ..

Is Pro Stock fixed yet !?

Vance and Hines works harder, test more than any other team and you want to punish them. I don't think so. Best you make videos and keep your allegations to yourself. Vance and Hines would make a moped win races.

Ok. I must know. Why at 745 did the track official run out and change the timing block?

Everybody has a winning streak Matt had a winning streak while back I'm not really a bike guy but I've been watching NHRA drag racing since 1979 everybody has a winning streak at some point and this will go away somebody will find another combination and then they will kick ass think about think about funny car for all them years John Force was winning championships are Tony Schumacher winning all them championships Steve Torrence was winning back-to-back-to-back-to-back and now he can't win somebody will find a combination that will beat this kid until then this gauge kid is nasty he's good but somebody will beat him

ok Hold on Here But I beg to Differ Bob Glidden Numbers In my Book will always Stand you can Not compare these 2 classes I say This because one class is on 2 wheels plus thy only 4 cylinders and it ways in at 640 or higher the other 4 wheels with 8 cylinders and it ways in at 2.350 or higher can you explain this ????????????????

This is the most contrived class in Drag Racing. Pure idiocy from staging to finish.

No way! $12,500 is all those guys are making? Byron and Terry put the Pro Stock bike class on the map in the late 70’s. They’ve created a monopoly where no one can compete with them. The writing is on the wall. I think the NHRA will do away with the PSM class all together due to a lack of competition, other manufacturers participating, fan interest and an overall lack of relevance. All racing is headed in that direction, look at NASCAR.

Quit you're Crying and Step-up your Game if you want to Win!...Matt Smith was just Fine when HE was Winning all the Time!

But by the way it pushes the other bike brands to develop their own performance programs and it's also very good for the class. So All the other brands drivers get together with the brand the same way V&H is doing 😊

If you’re getting beat, hire a better driver, engineer and crew chief. Cuz you ain’t cheating at the highest level.

I really think Pro Stock Bike needs to be a stock 600 with no wheelie bar. This drastically lowers the price of building a bike and opens the door for other manufacturers. Also, it introduces more visibly obvious rider talent.

Vance and Hines has always been allowed special treatment and rules for whatever manufacturer their with at that time

Maybe make it a "spec" series in which the engines are supplied by one or two manufacturers that aren't associated with any of the teams. The problem is that I can't imagine that there are many companies not named Vance & Hines that are willing or able to supply engines for 15+ bikes to compete at this level for a whole season. Maybe I'm wrong though. Part of the problem is that few (if any) others have the money and resources that V&H has. I used to work at the race shop in Brownsburg and the amount of Engineering, dev time, machining time, tuning, etc. that went into the 4v Suzuki engine was impressive. MSR is probably their closest competitor and his shop is a fraction of the size of the V&H shop. With the money, name, sponsorships, etc. that they have theres only so much that can be done.

Thanks Jack for doing your best to be Impartial.. Sad to see Racers throwing the towel in.. Racing is a Passion all of those Riders ..

Vance and Hines are ruining the class. They are obviously given preference by NHRA. NHRA and Vance and Hines are killing the competition.

When Matt was dominating there were constant rule changes. When V&H dominate there are constant holdfasts. There will always be favoritism in the NHRA.

i've been a drag racer on motorcycle since I was 15 I'm now 71 I watched the growth and the decrepitude both. I knew this was going to happen and I predicted it 10 years ago that these were not Suzuki's and these were not Harleys these are custom built motorcycles and I don't care what engine you have in that chassis it was going to come to this no matter what and to tell you the truth people could care less because they can't buy this motorcycle and they can't ride it do you remember when it was race on Sunday sell on Monday well the motorcycle industry needs to get back to that make the motorcycle industry make better motorcycles. they need to start racing motorcycles that people can buy and want to ride I can tell you that a bike that runs the sevens or a bike that runs 11s are no different when it comes to consistency you wanna see that double .00 light that's what we're there for all this backstabbing and factory crap just sucks and you're never gonna put an into it because that's how the business operates do you know how many people would show up if you could buy a stock motorcycle put a super tune in it and go racing at the NHRA events there would be big races every Sunday and you wouldn't have to bribe people to ride the bikes. sorry about the speech to text it's not very good but I will say I could go on for an hour about this and I believe I have the experience in the industry to speak my peace I was at the drag race event for motorcycles at Fremont Raceway in California and I had been racing for 10 years previous to that tells you how long I've been doing it we need to boot the idea that a super built motorcycle is what people want to see race it is not pro stock superstock those are just terms used by the industry and NHRA which is losing viewers as the years go by how many teams are in the nitro class now also when you call something the nitro Harley races that's crap it should be nitro bike and anyone with a nitro bike should be able to come and participate like they do in Australia where they draw massive crowds.ok i've said enough

Thats B.S. how hasnt gasden won at all. Only herrera. Yeah tune 25hp out of richards bike so gage can bully everyone. Id love to say that his talent is the reason. And some of those wins, sure. When glidden won he had his wizardry with his heads and intake work was far above all else plus those cleveland valves were big as chevy bb if not bigger. And cams that no one else could get. Greg Anderson was a tuning genius. The vh screaming eagle vrods were a great story. But the wins were shared amongst all the riders same with championships. This situation is way different. Something isnt right if tonglet cant find the performance similarities as vh is head scratching and i dont have dandruff or fleas. When feats suchbas these happen, its usually because of vas differences in money or secret squirrel stuff that someone found that others havent yet or cheating. Id say the money and relationship with the sanctioning body has everything to do with it. If his dominance at the cost of the class is good for the sport and its future. Then ive lost hope in nhra. No wonder so many so called outlaw series are created pulling the talent away. Technology should bring the sport foward not one teams TOTAL DOMINANCE

The NHRA used to be fair if someone started winning this much they would put weight on them not tell the rest of the class that they can lower their weight knowing good and well that those bikes don't have the weight to shed. Anybody that's my age 60 and above that knows the hierarchy knows good and well that one of the key players is one of the most notorious sandbaggers to ever come along.

UPDATE. Seattle Friday night. Matt Smith parked all 5 of his motorcycles to show NHRA that they won't have much of a future with out parity. Huge congrats to Matt for making a statement for the fans.

What a joke

NHRA, i was a season ticket holder here in georgia, when they bought commerce raceway I was like yes, a race here forever! Well they sold the track and nothing close to watch. They ruined racing, look at the empty seats here in va! Sad.

It's all about who's liked and not liked as much. That's why I race for fun at the track and run for money on the streets

What happened to the time when you had to use stock blocks crankshaft and heads the only thing that you are allowed to use Billet was cylinders?

I think it's pretty obvious how all the fans feel about the V&H bs... Look at the stands!!

Pure Horse shit. Someone that has been unbeatable round after round after round. Vance n Hines dominating with 1 bike and 1 rider. And we all know about the exclusive parts avalibilty. NHRA killing their own Pro Stock div. If only one dude can win well it's a no brainer. Just plain stupid. Boring enough where I just dont watch like many others.

Vance and Hines has control over that class wouldn't you call this a monopoly like having to sign a nda, get the big money and just go back to racing

Based on the controversy you are talking about, don't sound like much of an achievement.

Pro Street racing is WAY better

Why are there no big Kawasaki or Honda or Yamaha bikes in the field?

This is getting ridiculous that NHRA has done nothing to make things fair and as for Bob Gliddens that really sucks, not saying he didn’t earn it, but things was tougher when Bob set the record!

Vance asking the other teams what do they need to do to fix the class and he asks if increasing the purse would do it and he knows without a doubt he would be giving his team and gage a pay increase. He might as well of just slapped the other teams in the face, spit on them and told em to git gud! NHRA wont step up to make any changes until its just Gage and Gadson that are signed up to show at the next event and when that event comes around they in fact only have gage and Gadson there. Vance will blaim everyone else while knowing that the NHRA is bending every other team over and sticking it to them without so much as a thankyou after each event but Vance doesnt care because it benefits THEIR PROGRAM AND THEIR POCKETS! Gages record is always going to have most fans think their should be an asterix by his record because its obvious thwt the NHRA is holding the pocket while at each event for Vance.

When in the world is NHRA going to add top fuel bikes???? That would be a dream come true!!!!

They have a monopoly