Developer Update | Design Goals for Game Mechanics | Hunt: Showdown 

Bullet drop is probably the biggest change since Hunt 2018. CRAZY

"Compact Ammo weighs the least, and has the flattest curve while Long Ammo weighs the most, and will drop rapidly." *Galileo self-rezzes looking pissed

If we're getting bullet drop, can we make it so the spyglass can actually show ranges in live match? That would be awesome and bring an incentive to actually take it into matches.

"any headshot at any range will always be lethal" silenced nagant sounds pretty juicy

Im deeply worried about the effect of bullet drop on suppressed Weapons (sparks especially, those irons are going to make accounting for bulled drop near impossible)

Trials will be gone in august. While this is understandable, there's one trial that I particularly like, the mosin one on the train station, to kinda warm up a bit on moving targets. It wasn't much but it was still something. Is there any plan to add some moving mannequin in the training ground, especially with the new bullet drop rule ?

😮 BULLET DROP? Though I don't mind the added realism, we're talking about a 6 year old game with an already well established gameplay mechanic. This isn't re-balance; this is a whole gunplay rework - for something that wasn't broken. The gunplay feels so good already! Iron sights are probably going to suffer vs scopes and I can't see universal headshot lethality as a good thing at this point. I just hope this doesn't frustrate and push away the established player base over the potential for gaining a few new players.

Does bullet drop not buff snipers more? Only scoped weapons can account for drop because iron sights literally block you from seeing what youre shooting at. It’s going to be even harder to contest snipers because of this.

Uppercut in august launch will deal now 123 dmg. Interesting

Will the update in August change something with the reconnect feature ? Like 8 out of 10 Reconnects end up in a Dsync Game that is unplayable, Super Muffled/No Sound. I need to reconnect at least 2 times for it to work.

Now, I get to predict bullet speed, bullet drop, and ping abuse. Thanks, crytek

Headshots being lethal at any range for all weapons is Hackers galore.

These are all awesome changes...except for the bullet drop. Are there not enough factors to consider when firing a weapon in this game? Just seems unnecessary.

so can we flip up the sights of rifles to account for the drop? Otherwise you are just asking us to shoot with the iron sight blocking the target.

Bullet drop will just make scopes stronger and iron sights worse. I really hope it won’t suck.

bullet drop should be tied to velocity, not ammo size

Headshot changes are actually huge and open the road for stuff like precision nagant and multiple dead eye/marksman variants to be useful at long range, very interested

I really wish they previewed what the bullet drop was like but MAN that's a crazy change. The soft headshot noise was probably the most disappointing in the game and now that'll be gone. Nuts!

Bullet drop is based on muzzle velocity not bullet weight...

Some information for the Hunt team: Bullet drop is influenced by several factors, including: 1. Bullet velocity: Faster bullets travel further before gravity causes a noticeable drop. High-velocity bullets, therefore, have less bullet drop over the same distance compared to slower bullets. 2. Ballistic trajectory: The shape and design of the bullet affect how it flies through the air. Aerodynamically designed bullets tend to have a flatter trajectory and less bullet drop. 3. Bullet mass: Heavier bullets maintain their speed over longer distances better than lighter bullets and therefore often have less bullet drop. 4. Weapon and caliber: Different weapons and calibers have different muzzle energies and ballistics, which affect bullet drop. And not: less weight = less drop

Bullet drop, 10 meters on the pax. Hi, excuse me? Have you ever fired a gun???

I'm skeptical about bullet drop being added to Hunt since one of it's appeal was that it didn't have any. Though seeing that long ammo does get nerfed makes me a bit hopeful that it'll do some good and make Long Ammo not that great.

I've learned to not judge HUNT updates until I play them, but I feel robbed by small amounts sometimes, even after I play, and these changes to bullet drop kind of piss me off as I've gotten 80M headshots with paxes and now if I wanna do that I got to blind fire fire under the barrel. I feel I'm slowly being less invigorated and more lethargic towards Hunt, but I've been playing this game since the Dolch was once a medium ammo gun and you tapped x on Xbox to insta heal from med boxes

Don't know why they felt the need to add bullet drop... They pretty much don't know what to do now

Bullet drop feels a little wild. Gonna have to relearn everything. Not sure if i hate the idea yet

I feel that introducing the bullet drop will give a big advantage to scoped rifles over iron sights. It will be almost impossible to hit a strafing target at a distance with a weapon when you have to shoot high above the target and the weapon model will block your sight. Or is introducing iron sights with adjustable range planned as well? That would make it a bit easier.

I wish Wax Dynamite was used to be a counter to choke clouds. Wiping the could away on its detonation

I don't know about bullet drop... I mean you affect the whole hunt game in general since launch and I have my doubts about this change...

Dennis skin when

guess that bullet drop with ironsight will work realy good (not) roffel roffel

Bullet drop and oneshot headshots on any range are scaring the sh.... out of me

Adding bullet drop at this stage of the game seems weird. People will definitely have to change the way they play. And as someone who never uses scopes in Hunt, I imagine I will probably have to start since I likely won't be able to see what I'm shooting at without a scope since the gun would cover the target completely at even medium distances. Though most of my favorite guns have taller and thinner sights, so maybe not nearly as much. But then that also means a lot of guns with shallower and thicker sights will be completely off the table for me, whereas they were at least be somewhat serviceable without bullet drop.

About the bullet drop. Provided your target is stationnary or semi-stationary (moving left-right continuously, for example), how will you be able to aim/see your target if you have to aim higher to hit it? The sight of the gun will hide the target... no?

Changes aside, we need Dennis' chain pistol pin on the merch store now

Its crazy how at fist i REALLY hated the lowered crosshair but after playing Hunt many years now, I seem to actually like it haha. It even feels normal to switch from a centeredcrosshair game to hunt.

Not sure what to think about the bullet drop. I think the bullets should at least be more visible from your own perspective to make lineups easier...

I'm an active Hunt player since 2019 and got about 4k hours of play time. Some changes to the game seem promising, but it feels like Hunt is slowly becoming a game I can't recognise anymore... Bullet drop for example is a big change that I think is not needed at all. It should have either been in the game from the get-go or never be added after. I just hope the game will somehow still feel like the old Hunt I used to know in 2019.

Not sure how I feel about bullet drop

Damn I want that Caldwell pin

Honestly, one of the reasons I picked up hunt was because it does not have bullet drop. So I am not happy at all about that announcement. The rest, except unlimited headshot range sounds great.

Bold changes, looking forward to see how they play out!

Will have to wait and see on this. On console sometimes hitting someone at all is hard enough, bullet drop and some of these other changes will make the game harder to play well, and maybe more punishing.

The resurrection stuff is very cool, but the bullet drop is pretty odd You'd think it'd be a mix between bullet weight and velocity

for a while I've only thought of the update as a graphics overhaul this update made me realize this is a true relaunch. exciting time

Bullet drop? One of my favorite things about Hunt was not having to deal with bullet drop

bout time.. now to make those burn traits like rampage stack since they show a 1/3... the ability to just burn away a trait ingame would be nice in case you're full and find a better trait.. no upgrade point refund, just removes it.

Hunt doesn't need bullet drop.

I'm glad the bullet don't start to drop immediatly. It may need to be tweaked a bit further after launch but we'll see. The lack of bullet drop is in my opinion a really good thing in hunt right now because unlike FPS games set in a more modern era, most weapons don't have access to a clean low zoom scope with visibility below the point you're aiming at. You can't take the drop into account if the gun completely hides your target, or you have to do weird upward mouse flicks at the last moment before shooting and both of those situations are detrimental to the gunplay in my opinion. As always thank you for keeping us updated and listening to the community's feedback, keep those videos coming ! :)

crytek SHOULD NOT add bullet drop, its not a counter to snipers, its a punish for ironsights! the reason why it was never added in the first place was because of ironsights! this should be removed immediately

Not looking forward to bullet drop myself like, seems mental to add it to an already running game, where people have 100s or 1000s of hours of learnt gunplay. Seems like its going to change the game to much. Might as well just change all the gun velocities by 40% randomly so we have to re learn every aspect of shooting. Maybe make all the guns automatic 😅 Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they add sliding or dropshotting in the bext dev update

I'm not coming back until i hear you're putting on field melee weapons back in the game.

Bullet drop seems a terrible idea. You will only be able to use a scope effectively at range. If you aim with iron sight on these old guns and look up just a bit you will be shooting completely blind. What fun is that?? Hunt should absolutely never have bullet drop because of the heavy reliance on bulky iron sights. It will only be snipers now if this change goes through

Me when game that it as well established as it is because of not having to worry about things like bullet drop gets bullet drop

Now I can't laugh at people who complained that the reticle isn't in the centre anymore

Hold on, the conversion and uppercut drop start at the same distance, but compact drops with less curve. Unless velocity has a far stronger effect on drop, the base conversion will be more reliable. Not to mention the Pax! Frickin RIP to my favorite pistol.

Please no bullet drop :-/ You will already change so much stuff, and a lot of it sounds good, but why not step it down a bit and test just a few things with the update? To just look how things work out and then try more? This could be a shitshow in august... especially if you think about that almost every patch, as small as they somtimes where, introduced some kind of bug that takes them ages to fix... what will happen if they change the game at this scale?

Idk about bullet drop man, kind of a big change to add to a 7 year old game.

Bullet drop is not necessary. I think it will be science to play with different guns and ammo types to hit shots. It sounds like people have to play one weapon and ammo type only to be good with it or just learn the whole game anew if they want to try a new one. It buffes snipers too bc of the scope. Cant see anything with iron sights

Holy, bullet drop and centered crosshair, this is gonna be interesting

Not sure if bullet drop is a good idea. How will I fight a guy while my gun blocks my view on iron sights. Only choice is either runaway or towards him.

Hey can u solve that bug when u start the game all settings reset on low quality?

Keep up the great work Crysis! We appreciate the communication and transparency.

Im kinda confused about the bullet drop, does it mean that there is no damage drop off anymore ? Because if you look at weapon stats on 4:00 there is no "effective range" stat like until now. Does that mean that compact ammo will now have no damage drop off after 100m but will have much higher bullet drop than long ammo ?

"Polls and feedback are important to us" Where was the poll for these changes? I've responded to every poll you've put out and bullet drop was never in any I can recall. Also I hate the new gun names. It's destroying the world building that's been years in the making.

Camping in houses for 40 minutes gets another buff, yay.

I love where Hunt is going to, love all the changes and the tryouts.

Anyone else noticed that that choke bolt was for a large crossbow?

i did not understand about Necro...if I play with teammates, and revive one of them....Necro is out of my traits ? meaning I can pick someone up only once, or how is it ?

Ah yes, time to buff shotguns, melee, close range spam, and scoped weapons (those weak and underperforming weapons) even further by adding bullet drop. Exactly what the game needed!

everything in this video is a really good change except bullet drop

Interesting changes! And very substantial ones! I like that you develop data-driven and are not afraid to change things up because of it 🎉

Bullet drop? More like shotgun meta

Hunt was my alltime favorite game ever UNTILL NOW. This is so sad. Very sad day for hunt community..... Necro and bullet drop are a 200% game changer.

All of this is fantastic!

Every developer should take note of this level of transparency..

I believe that even with these changes, some weapons should still have a limit of headshot range, though with a little more give to their current limit.

Why not just add bullet drop to scopes? They needed some adjustment since they are absurdly op if you play passive and at range. It feels like the bullet drop change was to address scopes but you guys are adding it to ironsights too. not cool man, not cool.

Падение пуль было бы хорошей идеей, если бы добавили эффекты попадания этих пуль в поверхность, для корректировки выстрела. Стрельнул ты в охотника, а куда пуля попала - без понятия, доска рядом с ним даже щепками не разошлась

I’m really excited for a lot of the changes in this update, but the option for a centered crosshair and the addition of bullet drop really just seem like they’re stripping the game of it’s personality. I’m glad that we’ll still be able to use the old crosshair if we want it, but obviously a change like bullet drop can’t be optional, so I’ll focus on that. There is no other game I’ve played that has bullet travel time, but not bullet drop, like hunt does. The first tip that experienced players give newer players, both ingame and in tutorials, is that there is no bullet drop. Not only would this change make a whole bunch of those videos outdated in a way that no new player getting into the game would expect, but it also makes hunt less unique. I personally enjoy playing with pistols more than any other weapon type, and I’m sad to see that the medium ammo pistols are going to be affected more by bullet drop than compact ammo pistols, since medium ammo doesn’t get enough love already lol. I really enjoy being able to compete with rifles when all I have is a handgun, it’s like being in a western movie. The addition of bullet drop just seems like it’s gonna act as a nerf to my personal favorite weapons, and not as much is gonna change for the bolt action and lever action rifles, which have a crazy high pickrate as things are already.

over all cool changes. Not sure about the bullet drop as that is part of what made hunt unique would rather not see that get added. For the necro nerf its understandable but maybe make it have max stack of 2 so you can necro both teammates in trio. I am curious for the bullet drop if this mean Winfield with HV will be meta for the long range snipes since headshots are guaranteed kills

Centered Crosshair is big! The headshot at any range will make comapct ammo scopes fun again but I doubt rifles like the Berthier Marksman will be worth the cost. The burning stuff is not a nice way to make the game more offensive I would have hoped for a sound based solution.

I like the centered crosshair option but I always thought a lowered crosshair kind of countered head glitch spots. I wonder if they've worked around it or not

Finally a centered crosshair!!! And bullet drop is gonna be a fun addition!

im happy to see witness get put in to the trait roster, im not to sure about the solo necro changes that will be a wait and see sort of thing for me and finally bullet drop i suck at bullet drop in games so might struggle and will have to use shotguns alot but idk untill i see it

Drastic changes to an established game surely this will go well. Why do companies feel the need to say "you know this established gameplay loop you all come for? We're changing it, lmao." I don't want to play tarkov, I want hunt. For the love of god,, just make it look better and prettier. That's all you had to do. Instead we're getting bulletdrop, crosshair and burn changes. Who asked for this? Who was like "yeah no you know what this needs, bullet drop and unlimited headshot range"

I just want to say how much I appreciate these videos! Love ya ❤

that winnie is called a "Ranger 73"

I really hope bullet drop change wont make it into the game. If i want bullet drop i go play other games…

Community gonna have fun when there's solo in your match bushing even harder with single revive, love it

I like these changes to necromancer, we stopped playing litterally because every lobby was just all solos

What about adding more movement to your crossair/aiming when side stepping or just stepping in general.

Wo bekomme ich den Ansteckpin von der Kettenpistole?

Bold changes Crytek! We need to see what this means but overall I appreciate that you dare to tweak so many essential game mechanics. Especially balancing solo necro was needed. Thank you guys for your work!

Finally... with the crosshair update my other friends will be willing to try hunt. With that being said this is something I too have wanted since I started playing. THANK YOU!

Hi thanks a lot it looks good ... the only thing I'm a little worried about is the Bullet Drop how big it will be

Oof... Yeah, idk about this. Looks like quite the rain on the Hunt parade, so to speak. Seeing these announced changes was an instant joykill for my August expectations, sadly. Don't have much other choice than to wait and see how it'll turn out I guess.

Absence of bullet drop is the reason I played Hunt. Please, don't. Just..please. It will be just frustrating and nothing else for most of the experienced players.

I’m a bit nervous for the bullet drop.. but I certainly accept that challenge!

My prayers for centered crosshair have been heard, finally 🎉

Very interesting stuff! Some actually courageous changes. I like especially the idea of the new necromancer and of bullet drop as a new balance mechanic (for example for long ammo and sniping). Not gonna lie: those things were unexpected (and wished for by me :D)