Developing 'Hi-Fi RUSH' Backwards and Finding Our Positive Gameplay Loop

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In this session, Game Director John Johanas shares how the initial concept for Hi-Fi RUSH came to be. From there, he provides in-depth details into the development team's early learnings on approaching this type of rhythm-action title.
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@GWYT2003 4 месяца назад

Rest in peace Tango Gameworks.

@NathanielJordan85 4 месяца назад

To be fair, it's not like the talent that made the game is dead; they just don't all work at the same place anymore. Look for where they go for more good games still, and maybe other smart companies will pick up this star team.

@haihuynh8772 4 месяца назад

@@NathanielJordan85Or they just quit altogether, because who would still hold faith when your employment gets destroyed by the whims of CEOs?

@ThatGuy2005137 4 месяца назад

@@NathanielJordan85 I wish I was as optimistic as you but In first 5 months of this year there has already been 1000 more people laid off in the games industry then the entirety of 2022. The grim reality is that very few of these devs will find another job which let's them create in the same way or even another job which will pay them a similar salary. I do hope they find something that can lead them on a path to make more amazing games. They have proven that they only deserve that.

@MrDjBoyLover 4 месяца назад

Shame on Xbox and MS.......

@MarwinO3 4 месяца назад

@OtterlyG 4 месяца назад

The timing…

@rngwrldngnr 4 месяца назад

Could be deliberately provocative, but I'll admit to giving similar side-eye that it might be meant to make up hyoe for the game to quash out the shutdown discussion.

@williwerbung5203 4 месяца назад

@@rngwrldngnr GDC presentations have a restriction when they can go on RU-vid is all. GDC took place back in mid March.

@chidaluokoro9104 4 месяца назад

On the beat...

@detessed 4 месяца назад

@@rngwrldngnr You think Microsoft is bribing GDC to post Hi-Fi Rush content to... hype up Hi-Fi Rush.... to quell negative buzz around them shuttering the studio that made... Hi-Fi Rush.............

@rob19ny 4 месяца назад

The times are ever changing.

@acudaican 4 месяца назад

They really laid off this talent for more COD money.

@Miki-hk6vy 4 месяца назад

The real reason is even more pathetic, the investors can't possibly understand that the line of profit can not go up every year more and more without stopping so when they see it isn't going up anymore studios get on the chopping block which is really pathetic

@adam145 4 месяца назад

Man imagine all this talent losing because someone said "can you make more pew pew and me a billion dollars?"

@abdel1143 4 месяца назад

Blame Zenimax’s years of mismanagement.

@NootNoot. 4 месяца назад

I find this especially funny when Helldivers sold over 12m units on PlayStation. Sony must be thinking, "Y'know what, losing COD ain't that bad after all".

@cybertubeman745 4 месяца назад

@@NootNoot. They didn't backtrack fully just yet, in fact there's even more countries banned from PSN that can't access the game anymore now.

@khursaadt 4 месяца назад

The fact that this video came out just after Tango Gameworks closure is such a salt on wounds...

@alan.smitheeee 4 месяца назад

I'm pretty sure it was intentional.

@rosthouse 4 месяца назад

If anyone from Tango is reading this: Your game inspired and excited me like nothing else in the last few years. The soundtrack is still in my daily playlist and I advocate on every opportunity I have for others to play it. I was really looking forward to what you had in store next. Thank you. I hope you find your paths.

@StefanLopuszanski 4 месяца назад

😢 Too soon... You can create a great game that sells and wins awards and some giant corporation can still shut you down. Always remember that.

@AZ-qw1kz 4 месяца назад

The problem is capitalism and publically traded companies, really. It doesn't matter how beautiful or amazing the art is, if line don't go up, they will shut it down.

@StefanLopuszanski 4 месяца назад

@@AZ-qw1kz : That's the thing, the line supposedly did go up. They said it sold well enough but it was closed anyway.

@thebookofive 4 месяца назад

@@StefanLopuszanski But it didn't go up enough. Also, supposedly Tango had "the audacity" to ask their parent company for resources needed to extend the team. So yeah, the problem is the same old capitalism

@milk_bath 4 месяца назад

@@StefanLopuszanskiLine goes up higher by dissolving the studio. 🦍

@abx_yenway 4 месяца назад

My heart goes out to everyone who was at Tango.

@r6scrubs126 4 месяца назад

they didn't die

@NathanielJordan85 4 месяца назад

@@r6scrubs126no, but layoffs still suck. Empathy does not require death. 😅

@DLxxx 4 месяца назад

@@r6scrubs126And? They STILL lost their jobs and got thrown out into a struggling, oversaturated job market immediately after producing their magnum opus. All in the name of greedy corporate scumbags who wanted the line to go up faster (the very _same_ people Tango made this game for)..

@spikkle2627 4 месяца назад

So you have a crazy idea, take the risk, pour gallons of talent and dedicaton into it, somehow succeed against all odds, and then polish the end product to a mirror shine, and it's critically acclaimed, sells well, brings joy into thousands of real human lives and wins a bunch of awards. Surely it's only up from here! :')

@AxWarhawk 4 месяца назад

Hi-Fi Rush is my personal GOTY 2023. It's extremely rare to see a developer making as many correct game design decisions as Tango did with Hi-Fi Rush. The fact that the game did extremely well despite being a new IP and being shadow dropped shows what kind of masterpiece it is. I am truly sorry for what's happening to Tango. I cannot believe that Microsoft is killing yet another goose that laid golden eggs. Hoping you make the best out of it!

@alexeybulatov3547 4 месяца назад

Buy successful Studio -> milk their current project until the last drop -> PROFIT -> Shut them down before you will have to take financial risks of developing a new game -> wait for another tasty acquisition to appear on the horizon.

@jitek4 4 месяца назад

You forgot the part where they keep the IPs for few years and just serve you remakes just few years after the original studio got shut down 😮‍💨

@moritakaishida7963 4 месяца назад

@@jitek4 fable series anyone, god I miss lionhead

@DLxxx 4 месяца назад

It's absolutely *disgusting.* And don't forget that Hi-Fi Rush has licensed music. Without the developers around to patch the it out, the game will inevitably get de-listed when those licenses expire. Because the game doesn't have a physical release, and the PC version has denuvo, that means this gem could potentially be lost to time and inaccessible after a decade.. What an incredible way to repay all of Tango's hard work and the positive publicity they got you last year, Microsoft..

@JamesListener 4 месяца назад

@@DLxxx Ahoy, lass! Welcome aboard, yo-ho-ho! ☠😉

@blacxthornE 4 месяца назад

absolute vultures

@punishedbung4902 4 месяца назад

Rip Tango, if only Microsoft hadn’t condemned you to be a sacrificial tax write off.

@neverhave 4 месяца назад

Unbelievable to close a studio after such an incredible and purposeful game

@amiibler 4 месяца назад

I was there in-person for this talk, Johanas seems like the exact type of person that you'd want to be a game director. It's such a shame that Microsoft ripped this studio apart.

@applehazeva2739 4 месяца назад

He has made one of my Favorite Games of all time. I will Support any other game he and Tango Devs will ever work on

@Pakigi716 4 месяца назад

"Great job you guys, by the way, you're fired"

@slingshotdev 4 месяца назад

Hi-Fi Rush stands out amongst its peers, the game had so much style, soul, and pure fun not found by most AAA games studios. It felt like I was playing out a Saturday morning cartoon in the best way possible, the fact that the game did as well as it did with absolutely no marketing is a testament to its quality. Unfortunately, you can't exactly put the smackdown on corporate greed with a junk guitar IRL, but I think this may dissuade other studios with unique gameplay experiences from signing on with a megacorp that can dissolve them with a snap of the fingers.

@seha4943 6 дней назад

I choose the games i play and only play the games where story feels alive like detroit/life is strange/twd/days gone/high on life, even rdr felt boring and not alive but hi fi rush was a blast, i had so much fun playing it, i dont think i can have this much fun on another game.

@namesurname624 4 месяца назад

You've done your best and for your players it was more than enough ❤ Thought and prayers to the devs! RIP great studio.

@manhattan2003 4 месяца назад

To the poor fellow who had to release this video within days of the studio's closure, I am truly sorry 💀

@MegaMbembe 4 месяца назад

I hope they open a new studio and make more games like Hi-Fi Rush.

@PotentialNrgy 4 месяца назад

An important presentation to preserve.

@GameDesignThinking 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing this talk, GDC. It really shows how passionate and talented Tango Gameworks folks are. Hope the best for them in this difficult time.

@THExRISER 4 месяца назад

Thank you all for giving us such a wonderful game, I hope you can all find better career opportunities, under companies that actually value your skills and experience.

@squiddywiddy8891 4 месяца назад

RIP ❤

@ShinPepsiman 4 месяца назад

Praying for them to find a new home. Mikami's studio, UNSEEN, platinum, nintendo. Somewhere

@gregorymansour1763 4 месяца назад

Nintendo's investor report details plans to hire more staff rather than pursue M&A. I hope all of the talent at Tango finds publishers that value their talent.

@d4n5t3p3 3 месяца назад

41:10 this is one of the most mindblowing things I've ever seen. This is genious and I can't imagine how much work it took to nail it for just this small section

@Dastankbeets9486 4 месяца назад

Seeing how much dedication went into all the levels, it’s no wonder one of the main levels got cut from the game. It’s incredible that we got as much content as we did considering how bespoke it all is

@brookrichardson1373 4 месяца назад

Hi-Fi Rush was innovative and refreshing. I was very much looking forward to seeing what they would do next. RIP, Tange.

@Daniel__Nobre 4 месяца назад

Thanks for putting this video out at this time. This situation needs to be exposed as much as possible.

@NoxideActive 4 месяца назад

Investing in 'Tango Gameworks' backwards. ~Phil Spencer

@Phoeboi 4 месяца назад

Too soon 💀😭

@sub-jec-tiv 4 месяца назад

Vampires.

@sonicartist91 4 месяца назад

MAAAAAAAAAN, really wished that Xbox had smaller teams making award winning games.😬😬😬😬😑 This game is amazing! I am learning so freaking much! Thank you John Johanas, Tango GameWorks, and GDC for sharing this!

@darkduds38 4 месяца назад

Damn, Microsoft really said thanks for the new IP that we can lock in a vault for 20 years

@applehazeva2739 4 месяца назад

May be good fr. Without Tango, Bethesda lacks the Talent to recreate Tangos Talent

@higon99 4 месяца назад

13 years of Tango Games, that's glorious. Making a kick-ass action game must be a long-long-time dream for John Johanas and his lead programmer when they joined Tango Gameworks where the legendary dev Mikami resides. Reverse-developing action game shown here reminds me how GodHand was developed. They did it with new IP Hi-Fi Rush. Released it and EVERYBODY LOVED IT. But then they got fired. How sad.

@ariloulei814 4 месяца назад

Okay now hire the voice actor for Smidge to do this entire talk. I dunno why but I want it.

@GertyFlings 4 месяца назад

John Johanas IS the voice of smidge

@prototypelq8574 4 месяца назад

My heartfelt condolences to the team at Tango, they deserved so much better

@R3endevous 4 месяца назад

Hope every person from tango can land on their feet, because what they created is magical. While the parent company they worked under didn't have a positive loop, I hope tango employees have found their way back to land back on their feet.

@activemotionpictures 4 месяца назад

9:12 What an inspiring prototype. Thnak you for sharing this awesome dev conference.

@bcrane86 4 месяца назад

Well great timing for this to come out.......We'll miss you Tango :( Hope the team sticks around somehow for more titles in the future.

@PatriciaZaresh 4 месяца назад

One of my favourite games of all times. We will miss you, Tango.

@Iskra_Audio 4 месяца назад

Hopefully all the devs get picked up by other studios! It's crazy that you can make good games and you're still not safe from layoffs or your studio closing

@RobertleeEtn 4 месяца назад

Thank you for everything

@baconx6476 4 месяца назад

Microsoft: "You guys made a great game, we love that for you. Go ahead and empty your desk and vacate the premise or security will do that for you."

@AnAngelineer 4 месяца назад

This couldn't be more ironic, considering how brutally those very people were betrayed just a few days ago... Kinda sends a message of "it doesn't matter how well you worked and how clearly you can teach it to the world, big money will kill you anyways", which sadly has become the reality of our world, and the entertainment industry in particular.

@joshwpro4499 4 месяца назад

This is one of the best. A masterpieces for generations to come

@VikingRobotNinja 4 месяца назад

I hope the suits at Microsoft get linked this video a billion times

@luxxers 4 месяца назад

Is the upload date of this intentional?

@IvaN-cf7qt 4 месяца назад

oh for sure!, but i think it was with good intention, to let more people know about the talented devs behind this game.

@o_O81 4 месяца назад

NAME: Chai AGE: 25 PROFESSION: Rockstar Chai: Future… Rockstar… RIP Tango Gameworks / Hi-Fi Rush 2

@ShinPepsiman 4 месяца назад

I think it's really impressive how the prototype hardly differs from the final game. They knew exactly what they wanted to do. Please find a new home Tango 🤞

@RingTeam Месяц назад

TANGO IS BACK BOYS

@nicoblasss 4 месяца назад

Best wishes to everyone involved in the project. It was truly amazing. Much love

@newkickztv 4 месяца назад

RIP TANGO ❤

@rkrams1989 4 месяца назад

Man good game....the timing

@solofox9426 4 месяца назад

Give this man a job!

@jakkdlaw 4 месяца назад

I have not played it yet but this game is amazing, I can't believe they went through all that to make it. These devs are amazing.

@way_way_better 4 месяца назад

There were multiple times when playing this game that I thought to myself "this is a masterclass in game design". This talk is a nice supplement to that. Well done, everyone. And thank you for sharing your design process!

@nairocamilo 4 месяца назад

Bring awareness and justice for Tango Gameworks developers!

@REXanadu 4 месяца назад

@52:58 - I think it's both shocking and inspiring to find out it took 6-9 months for the game devs to not only go through the prototyping phase but also to figure out the game engine Even after watching the PsychOdyssey documentary - which explains how they made an entire commercial game to learn about Unreal Engine - I always assume professional game developers watch a few tutorials and have the entire engine learned in a few weeks It's a good thing to keep in mind going forward: even professionals spend more time learning than you think

@hamboy2610 4 месяца назад

44:20 Microsoft: "what future projects?"

@LateNightHalo 4 месяца назад

Amazing timing

@BlazeMakesGames 4 месяца назад

I seriously was hoping that Hi Fi Rush would become a franchise with at least a few more entries, evolving the action-rhythm gameplay and mechanics to new heights. Microsoft are clowns for killing this studio

@SlurpyPie 4 месяца назад

The timing on this couldn’t have been worse. RIP Tango Gameworks

@mirrikybird 4 месяца назад

Thank you for my favourite game of the last 3 years

@nick02417 4 месяца назад

Hope every member of your team land on your feet.

@Gmouse 4 месяца назад

Makes sense, even how their owner reacted to its success was backwards, Microsoft was just doing a sick Hi-Fi Rush reference but no one understood.

@happycapy47 4 месяца назад

They were shaping up to be one of my favorite studios. Shame on Microsoft.

@sonarthecat17 4 месяца назад

Wow the timing of this ...

@JO-hs1ue 4 месяца назад

You guys made a fantastic game. I don't care what xbox thinks. It's just been bad decision after bad decision with them for years.

@britishninja 4 месяца назад

Fascinating talk, really looking forward to their next game : D

@TheCzarsoham 4 месяца назад

My heart...

@benjoe1993 4 месяца назад

Thank you for the cool game Tango Gameworks

@kylerclarke2689 4 месяца назад

I hope that everyone who contributed to this amazing game finds work with a company that values them.

@Soloman274 4 месяца назад

Microsoft really shooting themselves into leg with closing their best studio. Good luck to them, with such anti-long-term decisions.

@user-ne9sd4ow1o 4 месяца назад

Microsoft: I took an arrow to the knee Everyone: You shot your whole leg off.. Microsoft: More blood for the heads 🤑 🤯

@praisetheoak 4 месяца назад

Hi-Fi rush gave me hope on the Xbox brand and gaming in general. I'm not even mad anymore, I'm just utterly disappointed.

@soul-5 4 месяца назад

im fucking crying over here man. we will never get another hi fi rush by tango games 😭

@MythicMasters-m5v 4 месяца назад

Rest in peace Tango Gameworks

@PoweredbyidTech 4 месяца назад

RIP Tango. Hope you all land on your feet ASAP

@STANNco 4 месяца назад

can't wait to see what they develop next, Microsoft is so lucky to have them

@terry- 4 месяца назад

Great!

@metalmonster9536 4 месяца назад

Nice tribute I must say

@vul4ak 4 месяца назад

Tango Gameworks - just as you finally got the freedom to do what you were best at doing - you got shut down. Thank you for everything.

@xxCreeplyxx 4 месяца назад

Amazing game, can't wait to see what they make next!

@eneekmot 4 месяца назад

The devs deserved better.

@victorjacobson4077 4 месяца назад

I'm a solo indie dev but I hope I can get my game out before microsoft shuts me down.

@chompyumyum4615 4 месяца назад

With all tiny shreds of due respect, F*CK MICROSOFT R.I.P. Tango.

@PheonixMetal60 Месяц назад

We are so back

@GuatekeFrankie 4 месяца назад

best timing ever

@BenGoodsonModular 4 месяца назад

Unreal timing

@Heavyshadowsound 4 месяца назад

Rest in Peace, Tango Gameworks

@VincentGuillotine 4 месяца назад

if tango people are reading this, you never deserved what happened

@therealsunnyk 4 месяца назад

The Slip is released under a Creative Commons Sharealike license. IIUC John could have put the music into the video.

@soyunbonus 4 месяца назад

What a gem of a game!

@MartinGP_3dfxlegacy 4 месяца назад

Press f to pay respect

@user-ne9sd4ow1o 4 месяца назад

@nekokna 4 месяца назад

they were the dopest...

@manrique_1984 4 месяца назад

Damn you Phil Spencer and Matt Booty. 😢

@soheil4471 4 месяца назад

Yeah seeing this talk now is sad amazing talk by the way too bad Microsoft couldn't handle such a talented studio.

@HeyImKevin 4 месяца назад

Pssst….Friends don’t let friends buy Call of Duty anymore, pass it on.

@ty_teynium 4 месяца назад

I'm Sorry Tango; you deserved better.

@kirbles2035 4 месяца назад

Great timing

@Gunny672 4 месяца назад

R.I.P Tango, Phuk Microsoft.

@user-fy1fs1cu2x 4 месяца назад

very cool, YOU FIRED

@Orionhart 4 месяца назад

RIP Tango. You didn't deserve to be just another notch in their financial portfolio.

@egementon 4 месяца назад

It's painful to watch this now...