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Developing South Park: The Stick Of Truth 

Timothy Cain
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I tell stories about the development of South Park: The Stick Of Truth.

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@Gamescommentary
@Gamescommentary 9 месяцев назад
I wish more high profile devs would do these types of blogs.
@jamestipsfedora
@jamestipsfedora 9 месяцев назад
Not enough 0 diff extrovert/introvert developers out there.
@RootVegetabIe
@RootVegetabIe 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely. We're at a point in time where a significant amount of people who shaped the entire medium are still around to talk about it. It won't be that way forever.
@Darkmaster120660
@Darkmaster120660 9 месяцев назад
​@@RootVegetabIeonly other channel like this I can think of is Gamehut. Old Travelers Tales dev.
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames 9 месяцев назад
Different people have different methods of wisdom-sharing. Sid Meier and John Romero both recently published paperback memoirs.
@Gamescommentary
@Gamescommentary 9 месяцев назад
@@aNerdNamedJames gamers don't read 😂 lol
@kip_c
@kip_c 9 месяцев назад
Gabe Newell wasn’t lying when he famously bemoaned the PS3 architecture
@ManOfParody
@ManOfParody 9 месяцев назад
Aw man. You said Chris Avellone and immediately reminded me of the crap that poor guy had to go through. I feel so sorry for him. Genuinely seems like a good guy. He didn't deserve that. But on South Park Stick of Truth, I think the final product was amazing. It was a SP version of Paper Mario TTYD. My only complaint was how incredibly short the game is.
@Hoppelite
@Hoppelite 9 месяцев назад
What’s even sadder is despite him clearing his name, he will probably never get rid of that stigma. Either people won’t know he cleared his name, don’t believe it, or won’t associate with him out of fear. Those women who falsely accused him should be in prison right now. If you falsely accuse someone of sexual harassment or assault, you should be given the same penalty that the person would get if the accused was charged. Also sad how Techland completely threw away the story he wrote for Dying Light 2 because of the bullshit accusations
@junior1388666
@junior1388666 8 месяцев назад
Obsidian's writing have gotten worse and worse after he left too
@Vanity0666
@Vanity0666 8 месяцев назад
I personally liked the short length of Stick of Truth because it never overstayed its welcome, had it been much longer in runtime I definitely feel like it would have become tedious and grating near the end.
@user-ev5md5sz9x
@user-ev5md5sz9x 2 месяца назад
Damn I had no idea about this. That’s absolutely awful.
@joshjames582
@joshjames582 9 месяцев назад
The final boss fight from this game has stuck with me to this day. I have the Princess Kenny song stuck in my head often.
@hughneutron5303
@hughneutron5303 9 месяцев назад
princessa kennyuuu
@MFKitten
@MFKitten 9 месяцев назад
Sounds WAY better with the lav mic! Nice and warm and clean.
@Rustvaar
@Rustvaar 9 месяцев назад
Your videos cheer me up, no end. They make me think about a lot of things; life choices, appetite for risk, personal goals. I just can't comprehend how anyone can decide "well, I'm moving to Seattle". I can barely decide what I'm having for lunch and here's someone who will move around the country and juggle multiple projects. It's amazing how determined you are, how intelligent and personable you are in your videos. You're a real community treasure. Thank you.
@terminallumbago5582
@terminallumbago5582 9 месяцев назад
2:41 “it didn’t always stop where you put the breakpoint”. I can see myself being driven mental by that!
@astrahcat1212
@astrahcat1212 9 месяцев назад
This was my favorite game in the last 10+ years due to having a great balance of narrative and rpg. Loved this game.
@DylonDylonDylon
@DylonDylonDylon 9 месяцев назад
Such a good game! Glad you worked on it! The sound is better too!
@NathBeLive
@NathBeLive 9 месяцев назад
I knew that South Park the Stick of Truth was made by obsidian and I loved it because of that, however I had no idea YOU were apart of this game! This means that this was my first game I played of yours way before I played fallout. I absolutely love this game and now I know why. I absolutely love fallout, fallout new vegas, and this game and its cool to see same faces in these projects.
@PledgeBass
@PledgeBass Месяц назад
The stick of truth is such an underrated game, I remember trying it out one time thinking it was just going to be some silly little minigame to help promote the tv show but ended up sinking hours and hours into it.
@pancakewizard1533
@pancakewizard1533 9 месяцев назад
Those 'ass' skills ended up in Wasteland 2 somehow!
@tribbergrips1613
@tribbergrips1613 9 месяцев назад
"Badass Smartass, and Kissass" are all stats in wasteland. Badass is intimidation, kissass is persuasion etc.
@jameshanson922
@jameshanson922 9 месяцев назад
I love watching all of your videos. Thank you for sharing so much.
@gils501
@gils501 9 месяцев назад
I'm a long time fan of south park & a gamer, The Stick Of Truth was amazing thanks for being involved!
@elroma7712
@elroma7712 9 месяцев назад
"There was a werewolf and Michael Jackson was involved" ajajajaja i never thought I would laugh at that.
@ytubeanon
@ytubeanon 9 месяцев назад
argh, release the Stick of Truth cut content as a DLC or bonus or a youtube video, it can't just remain unseen from another video: "eventually a bunch of content was cut from the game this included a battle with vampire kids a quest to save Carmen's doll from the gingers a whole Christmas town and a huge underground world where gnomes and crab people lived"
@Pedone_Rosso
@Pedone_Rosso 5 месяцев назад
Really a fun game! Lots of South Park in it, straightforward and yet satisfactory RPG mechanics, and so much variety in all aspects of the game play that it kept being super interesting for me all the way through despite the (relative) simplicity of its combat system and progression. Even if I only managed to play some 80% of it before a bug locked me off from finishing it (as an obsessive completionist, that meant too many hours for me to go back and replay it from scratch), I remember liking it more than the still very good second chapter of the series (which I had actually played right before the stick of truth game, btw: couldn't have had a more direct comparison than that!). Thanks for your videos and games!
@thewastelandarchitect9000
@thewastelandarchitect9000 9 месяцев назад
So cool to hear about all the cut content, sounds like it would of been really good! I wonder if modders could put it into the game like they did with all the fallout 2 cut content 🤔 also would of loved to hear about your interactions with Matt and Trey, what are they like in person and what are they like to work with etc.
@diegofigueroa6953
@diegofigueroa6953 9 месяцев назад
Yooo the mechanic you mentioned where a character stays after he moved seems to be a similar thing to what they did for the South Park The Fractured But Whole game.
@GypsumGeneration
@GypsumGeneration 9 месяцев назад
I don't say it often enough, but thanks for sharing Tim.
@Vincent_Van_Vega
@Vincent_Van_Vega 9 месяцев назад
Please do one for Tyranny, one of my favorite games of all time.
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames 9 месяцев назад
As much as I'd love that (Tyranny is one of my all-time favorites), I worry it might be difficult to separate that topic from the drama around Chris Avellone and Obsidian's split.
@clairesteeleforever
@clairesteeleforever 9 месяцев назад
Please!
@poopingnuts
@poopingnuts 7 месяцев назад
I remember Gabe Newel complaining about PlayStation 3. That was one of the reasons he didn’t release Left 4 Dead or Half a life for that console.
@metalgary
@metalgary 9 месяцев назад
You bringing up getting involved with the Pillars kickstarter updates was a pretty big nostalgia kick. I remember you answering a question about combat types that'll be in the game, specifically because I remembered grapples wouldn't be in it because of animations. "How would you grapple an ooze" is a phrase that comes to mind now and then.
@Xbob42
@Xbob42 9 месяцев назад
Been looking forward to this one!
@wimbusbert1249
@wimbusbert1249 9 месяцев назад
Been waiting for this one!
@Grinningfartking6969
@Grinningfartking6969 9 месяцев назад
i love when people talk about everquest can you talk more about everquest and your memories and fave classes
@exarkann
@exarkann 9 месяцев назад
Mic needs some tweaking, sounds a bit muddy, like the middle-high and high end has been damped. Previously you sounded more bright and lifelike on my Klipsch system. That said thank you for this series! I love listening to professionals talk about the thing they are passionate about.
@aintnomeaning
@aintnomeaning 9 месяцев назад
I had no idea you worked on POE Tim! Would you ever do a video about the specific challenges of crpg genre over the years, and what you see as the future of the genre? What you would hope to see? Will bg3 help revitalize the genre? I was so happy that poe Kickstarter happened...imo it saved the genre for the young people to now enjoy.
@jtaco4101
@jtaco4101 9 месяцев назад
Darn those deleted levels would have probably been fun
@slizzysluzzer
@slizzysluzzer 9 месяцев назад
There are leaked prerelease builds of Stick of Truth that have the cemetery level, pretty easy to find.
@deltapi8859
@deltapi8859 9 месяцев назад
Lavalier mics are OP. Sound is phenomenal.
@bratttn
@bratttn 9 месяцев назад
it was fun to be just a programmer again (c) - super relatable!
@slimbob7553
@slimbob7553 Месяц назад
I love this guy's videos.
@amarelswtor5446
@amarelswtor5446 9 месяцев назад
Hi Tim! Can you pls make a video explaining how you made art for Arcanum? All these sprites for animations in 8 different directions - sounds like a huge amount of work. Were they hand drawn? Or what was the software you used for that?
@stacksmalacks8826
@stacksmalacks8826 9 месяцев назад
Oh shit its like I can hear Big Daddy Cain talking into my brain with the new mic
@CaffeinatedKing
@CaffeinatedKing 9 месяцев назад
I remember being shocked at how much I enjoyed Stick Of Truth. You sort of go into these games based on shows expecting the worst, but I thought "Well it's Obisidian, I like to think if anyone can make a decent RPG now days it's them". Sure enough I really liked the game, it's a shame so much work and content was lost to whims, I remember wanting to play the game a bit longer once I was done with it.
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel 9 месяцев назад
Funny how the sequel had the opposite problem, running longer than it should have.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 9 месяцев назад
This game got me to try Fallout and Fallout 2. I'd never played a turn based game but I heard this game was very much true to the show and it was hilarious and fun to explore.
@dudeglove
@dudeglove 9 месяцев назад
Would love for you and Sawyer to chinwag about Pillars dev like you did with Leonard and Scott
@cmmmmmmmw
@cmmmmmmmw 9 месяцев назад
Tim's the man! According to Steam, I haven't played this one since it came out. Might be time for a second playthrough. Really cool game. How much interaction did you have with Matt and Trey? Were you required by contract to never make eye contact with Trey?
@FaxanaduJohn
@FaxanaduJohn 9 месяцев назад
I loved the Stick of Truth! It was a lot funnier than the sequel.
@hpbecraft
@hpbecraft 9 месяцев назад
Wow the cut things sound great.
@Amberclad
@Amberclad 9 месяцев назад
I think they used that movement system atleast in part with South Park Fractured BUT HOLE
@zzeck431
@zzeck431 9 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to hear about your "programming history." Not sure what to call it. Things like, hardware coded on, OS programmed on, OSs and hardware targeted, languages used, IDEs, compilers, other tools (debuggers, profilers, memory leak checkers etc), difficult problems, strange problems, most elegant code you've seen or written, programmer coordination difficulties, how are minimum system requirements chosen and tested for, how to structure code so optimizing later is reasonably feasible, thoughts on automated tests vs human qa, programming styles, when did projects start using source control like svn or git, what build systems and asset compilation systems have been used. For DOS programs, did companies have a bunch of PC hardware around to configure in different ways for testing? Seems even more essential back then without much of an OS abstraction.
@Tyubirocks1
@Tyubirocks1 9 месяцев назад
Tim Cain ASMR! New mic sounds great
@binaryc
@binaryc 9 месяцев назад
Great video! but I prefer your other mic! This mic makes your voice sound more natural, but it seems like there's a constant white noise in the background.
@abd1979o1
@abd1979o1 9 месяцев назад
great video Tim! stick of truth was originally published by THQ, before they went bankrupt and the rights were bought by Ubisoft, did that have any effect on development?
@CainOnGames
@CainOnGames 9 месяцев назад
Yes, it did, but not in a lot of ways that affected me. Most of the changes happened at the contractual level, which I didn't see. Now, the near constant approval and subsequent unapproval of content came from Matt and Trey and it affected development a lot more, but that continued under Ubisoft like it did under THQ.
@8Paul7
@8Paul7 9 месяцев назад
I somewhat liked SP but never really loved it so it took me years before I decided to play South Park, but it was awesome. I liked it more than the show. Hearing about how much cool stuff got cut is depressing though.
@stacksmalacks8826
@stacksmalacks8826 9 месяцев назад
Tim I've got a question I think you haven't covered yet! What made Interplay come to using The Ink Spots in the Fallout intro?
@theamazingbatboy
@theamazingbatboy 9 месяцев назад
There's a section in one of the Leonard Boyarsky chats where they go into it.
@TorQueMoD
@TorQueMoD 9 месяцев назад
Game developers should make DLC for their games that are basically comprised of all the cut content, even if it's garbage. Like the Extras on a DVD it would just be fun to see.
@GeezNutz
@GeezNutz 9 месяцев назад
I never expected that game to be as good as it is. Happily surprised.
@twotamatos
@twotamatos 23 дня назад
I love that game so many mechanics from that game the combat system where u mash buttons correctly for higher damage. The gross out status inflict that makes enemies puke XD 🇩🇪 🧟‍♀️👸 kenny was one of my fave final bosses. I was pretty interested in finding a way to have those first 2 features I mentioned into my game so maybe one day I could decompile the code for the 360 game but honestly I’m sure I can figure out ways to make my own system with those features. South Park is something I grew up with I was born on 1997 so I grew up watching it I remember seeing the first episode at age 5 I take some big notes from writing a show from Trey and Matt they really do touch on subjects that people wouldn’t touch with a 10 Inch pole they r using that pole to drag the corpse of the celebrity or whatever closer this was going to be my 1 question to u what was it like working on the stick of truth so u answered all my questions n more! I really hope gigs like this made u feel like u had a super amazing career so many of us just get to dream of working on a South Park project but u actually got to do it so congrats! The game would not have been the same level of quality without u dude!
@xelldincht4251
@xelldincht4251 Месяц назад
Seems like the combat system you came up with was used in the sequel (the one with the super heroes)
@emmanuel1337
@emmanuel1337 9 месяцев назад
That game was really fun. It's a pity that the sequel, in my opinion, wasn't...
@rusty_from_earth9577
@rusty_from_earth9577 9 месяцев назад
Oh no Tim is transforming into a “real” RU-vidr before our eyes. It’s only a matter of time before he’s screaming from low quality jumpscares and telling us about squarespace.
@wimbusbert1249
@wimbusbert1249 9 месяцев назад
The tradeoff with the lav mic is that it's a little harder to hear you with a tiny phone speaker, which is generally how I've been watching these. But eh, it's whatever.
@Lbf5677
@Lbf5677 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like fun to develop
@misterj8815
@misterj8815 9 месяцев назад
I find it hilarious I played that game and thought "How did they make such a great RPG out of a TV show, this is usually impossible" and I had no idea they had the maker of some of my favorite games working on it
@calebszyszkiewicz719
@calebszyszkiewicz719 9 месяцев назад
Tryany plz 😭😭😭
@geebster.
@geebster. 8 месяцев назад
I didnt play the sequels but the Stick of Truth is an amazing RPG. People played it for the memes but it was a legitimately excellent game.
@ToyokaX
@ToyokaX 9 месяцев назад
Woah, that game used the dungeon siege engine as a base? I'd have never guessed that! Totally different game world, but I guess it makes sense if you look at how the two games play, sort of. That's really cool!
@spudd86
@spudd86 9 месяцев назад
That alternate turn based thing sounds somewhat like what Lunar had, was there any inspiration there?
@qpid8110
@qpid8110 9 месяцев назад
You also were in a backer video in for Pillars 2! "Hey Tim." xD edit: I still remember your giant pencil from the PoE videos :D
@DamienToxify
@DamienToxify 9 месяцев назад
I think they used some of those concepts if not entire assets in the fractured but whole
@krellend20
@krellend20 9 месяцев назад
My response to the new mic is basically "Whoa, that's not what Tim sounds like." By the end of the video I ended up thinking that I hope you go back to the old mic.
@kuolettavaVids
@kuolettavaVids 9 месяцев назад
Feels like there is too much... reverb?
@Vanity0666
@Vanity0666 8 месяцев назад
Ps3's PowerPC Cell architecture was so nasty for anyone who wasn't a sony first party or partner
@RancidZombieGuts
@RancidZombieGuts 9 месяцев назад
the story with Clooney is actually he showed the christmas short to people in Hollywood leading it to become well known. Then later on when the series had started, he came on to do a voice and Matt and Trey made him do dog sounds for Stan's gay dog because celebrity guest voices are cringeworthy so they decided to do it in a manner that was less so
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 9 месяцев назад
They originally were going to actually have Matt Damon in Team America. I think they made the right choice of how to handle him.
@pondopondo1497
@pondopondo1497 8 месяцев назад
Game came out better than I expected, much better.
@zb3485
@zb3485 8 месяцев назад
LOL...the VAG BLAST!
@shyvchuk
@shyvchuk 9 месяцев назад
Hey, great video! I don't resonate with South Park mid 10-s and later seasons, but the game was super fun! And i have a video suggestion. Make one about chocolate! I know you have things to say! :) Hello from Ukraine and i feel sorry for you about that Roshen bar you had, like, ten years ago :D
@ygrezzie
@ygrezzie 13 часов назад
Hi everyone! it’s me, Matthew.
@willheisdarkrock6286
@willheisdarkrock6286 9 месяцев назад
Can't wait for Tyranny! Love that game!
@stefanhyltoft
@stefanhyltoft 9 месяцев назад
Oh I remember Matt and Trey talking about the jokes getting old thing
@saraphys5555
@saraphys5555 9 месяцев назад
That was pretty kool, Tim! However, I think you might have a bit of a wrong perception there with PoE and Tyranny... I think they are your Great-Gamechildren... Think about it? The people who did make those games, work under you making your other games...like Fallout, Arcanum, Temple, etc... So, your like those games' Grandpa!
@hanes2
@hanes2 3 месяца назад
I've heard a lot of ps3 development nightmares..
@lonneansekishoku8288
@lonneansekishoku8288 9 месяцев назад
That was hilarious.
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames 9 месяцев назад
Something that's worth noting about Big Gay Al is that his introductory episode was ultimately advocating gay acceptance before gay acceptance was truly mainstream (it aired just a few years after the enactment of Don't Ask Don't Tell). It's genuinely cool that the show choose to make gay acceptance one of the first social issues they spent an episode focused on. People who can't see past Big Gay Al's stereotype characterization really are missing the bigger picture.
@DodderingOldMan
@DodderingOldMan 9 месяцев назад
Of course, they also had another episode about how it's okay for the Scouts to forbid gay members, and how it's okay to use the word 'f*ggot', and several episodes about how being trans is contemptible and ridiculous, so... these things are also part of the bigger picture.
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames 9 месяцев назад
@@DodderingOldMan When did the central message of any episode say that it's alright for Scouts to forbid gay members or that being trans is intrinsically contemptible? I'm not asking sarcastically -- since I haven't seen every episode I know it's entirely possible that others in these comments have points of reference which I don't have.
@shizzledink
@shizzledink 9 месяцев назад
I adore Stick of Truth. Mr. Slave is the best summon in the game. Nobody deserves to be swallowed up by another person's sphincter XD
@joeykickassery
@joeykickassery 9 месяцев назад
Seattle, for double bear studios i presume.
@jonbigcawk
@jonbigcawk 9 месяцев назад
Tyranny next, such a wierd game!
@kloa4219
@kloa4219 9 месяцев назад
You've lived a very fulfilling and productive life.
@tylerbloomington7695
@tylerbloomington7695 9 месяцев назад
The first thing I thought of when you said someone having to animate genitals, is the level with the underpants gnomes where your parents are banging in the background lmao.
@alfredlopez8472
@alfredlopez8472 Месяц назад
To fly high the fall is a bitch...
@stinger822
@stinger822 9 месяцев назад
Stick of Truth was a great game, shame to hear about the cut content.
@asdfjkl227
@asdfjkl227 9 месяцев назад
If you're not under NDA, can you talk now about how PlayStation 3 was programmed and developed for? This is super not public knowledge so whatever you can say is very interesting. Get technical! For the technically interested.
@adamcampbell6094
@adamcampbell6094 2 месяца назад
Sucks that content got cut
@hughneutron5303
@hughneutron5303 9 месяцев назад
there was a bug with paris hilton? i'm pretty sure she has more then one bug LOL
@arrjantarach7538
@arrjantarach7538 9 месяцев назад
Do you know if it's possible for anyone living outside the US to get a job at Obsidian?
@wimbusbert1249
@wimbusbert1249 9 месяцев назад
I know for a fact Obsidian has employees all over the world.
@arrjantarach7538
@arrjantarach7538 9 месяцев назад
@@wimbusbert1249 resonable trustworthy enough for me to do some more digging, thanks mate!
@fixpontt
@fixpontt 9 месяцев назад
smartass, kickass, kissass system went into Wasteland 2 if i remember correctly
@lenorkhide2873
@lenorkhide2873 9 месяцев назад
What you're referring to? I've always heard as the 80/20 rule. The first 80% of the work is only 20% of the work, the last 20% is 80% of the work
@ytubeanon
@ytubeanon 9 месяцев назад
80% of the work only requires 20% of the effort, the last 20% of work requires 80% of effort
@ReconFX
@ReconFX 7 месяцев назад
This is actually called the "Pareto principle"
@mcashed
@mcashed 9 месяцев назад
To whomever was against the ASS system - what the hell???
@DeepFriedDoom
@DeepFriedDoom 9 месяцев назад
That's what happens when the show creators don't understand game design. They rightly have final creative control, but they don't use it wisely.
@HeiseSays
@HeiseSays 9 месяцев назад
Southpark is that old?
@SnoutBaron
@SnoutBaron 9 месяцев назад
Weirdly, the new mic sounds worse...
@GypsumGeneration
@GypsumGeneration 9 месяцев назад
Yeah it sounds like the gain is too high, and there's no room to it. Sounds like air traffic control, or a phone call.
@SnoutBaron
@SnoutBaron 9 месяцев назад
@@GypsumGeneration well described. Exactly my thoughts.
@TheLastLineLive
@TheLastLineLive 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely love this game, especially given at the time that this genre of RPG was basically dead outside of some of the niche Japanese games. Glad it was successful and played a role in revitalizing that part of the genre, because now we have amazing titles like sea of stars and chained echoes.
@andrewgonzalez2356
@andrewgonzalez2356 9 месяцев назад
Wasn’t that game published by Ubisoft? I haven’t played much of it, but it’s still on my backlog. For a question, what’s your number 1 backlog game you’ve get to get back to? Mine backlog is infinite at this point.
@janminator232
@janminator232 9 месяцев назад
Just beat the game lol
@jeremyscungio16
@jeremyscungio16 9 месяцев назад
This mic honestly sounds worse than your previous recent videos
@GrievousReborn
@GrievousReborn 13 дней назад
I don't know I think the Simpsons lately has been leaning towards only making fun of the right
@JediMB
@JediMB 9 месяцев назад
The Stick of Truth was the first piece of South Park media I'd enjoyed in a decade. Since then, I've actively distanced myself from the franchise (while at that point it had just happened passively).
@DodderingOldMan
@DodderingOldMan 9 месяцев назад
Glad to hear at least some people had some moral qualms about working on that game. Yeah, they make fun of everyone (kind of), but there is no context in which deliberately, consciously naming your main character a racist epithet is okay.
@vegg6408
@vegg6408 9 месяцев назад
I havent watched south park in a minute did they add a new character?
@ericbaker8781
@ericbaker8781 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@ericbaker8781
@ericbaker8781 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@HeretixAevum
@HeretixAevum 9 месяцев назад
What are you referring to, I'm drawing a total blank, unless I'm missing something obvious... Tolkien?
@estogaza5827
@estogaza5827 9 месяцев назад
Imagine being a man and talking like this.
@VK-sz4it
@VK-sz4it 9 месяцев назад
Tim, question about Pillars of eternity. It is one of my favourite games. Deadfire though improved upon first game, was lesser success. To me it seemed to be overburdened by features and sidequests - is it the thing that you were talking about previously when lead should have said: "Great feature - does not fit into game"
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